RASCAR N.Carolina

Congrats to T_White! Results in the usual place - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/rascar.html Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+6.19 N2002 Rank:+18.91 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I practiced for this race on the 429ford races on Sierra. Is it just me, or are the races on there exceptionally clean? "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Congrats to T_White! > Results in the usual place - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/rascar.html > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+6.19 > N2002 Rank:+18.91 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

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"jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7YCx9.5757$[email hidden]... > I practiced for this race on the 429ford races on Sierra. Is it just me,or > are the races on there exceptionally clean?I would second that, I had the pleasure of racing against Mr. 429 in a previous league, he knows how to setup a server, he races cleanly himself and would probably, to the best anyone can, require it of people on his servers......I join them when I can. Ed

Eldred, I have practiced on 429 too and had the same experience for the most part. Of course, there is always the exception. Here lately, I have been getting some experience avoiding the wreckers and its kinda entertaining as long as I know that going into the race. I usually start in the rear and watch the wreckers and then try to go around them. About half way through the race the wreckers are usually all gone and then you race to see how close you can finish to the leader. Grub "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7YCx9.5757$[email hidden]... > I practiced for this race on the 429ford races on Sierra. Is it just me,or

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> are the races on there exceptionally clean? > > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Congrats to T_White! > > Results in the usual place - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/rascar.html > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > GPLRank:+6.19 > > N2002 Rank:+18.91 > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > > >

>I practiced for this race on the 429ford races on Sierra. Is it just me, or >are the races on there exceptionally clean? Sorry, I've never heard of 429ford. This is an 'open' server with clean races? Amazing... I didn't think it was possible. :-) Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+6.19 N2002 Rank:+18.91 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

For some reason I didn't think I was going to like that track, but it turned out to be a pretty good race by everyone. Especially the first 125 laps or so. Only a couple of yellows. Had a lot of fun with Joonli and JeLe for awhile during the first 60. David G Fisher "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Congrats to T_White! > Results in the usual place - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/rascar.html > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+6.19 > N2002 Rank:+18.91 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >I practiced for this race on the 429ford races on Sierra. Is it just me,or > >are the races on there exceptionally clean? > > Sorry, I've never heard of 429ford. This is an 'open' server with cleanraces? > Amazing... I didn't think it was possible. :-) > > Eldred > -- Well there is some foolishness, but *relatively* they seem pretty doggone clean. Did have a bad experience there today practicing for Phoenix. Some guy took to calling me jap and foreigner. Must be because of the screen name Joon Li. Thought it was pretty amusing considering I am really just run-of-the-mill white trash.

I think they have made this track a lot easier in N2002 as compared to N4. I remember in N4 that after about 10 laps your RR was gone and if you so much as looked at the gas you would spin out. Coulda just been the setup, but I seem to remember never really being able to fix it. All my setups in N2002 for this track do not seem to have this problem. Brian Oster On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 00:00:05 -0500, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>For some reason I didn't think I was going to like that track, but it turned >out to be a pretty good race by everyone. Especially the first 125 laps or >so. Only a couple of yellows. Had a lot of fun with Joonli and JeLe for >awhile during the first 60. > >David G Fisher > >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Congrats to T_White! >> Results in the usual place - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/rascar.html >> >> Eldred >> -- >> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >> GPLRank:+6.19 >> N2002 Rank:+18.91 >> >> Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats >you >> with experience... >> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. >

>For some reason I didn't think I was going to like that track, but it turned >out to be a pretty good race by everyone. Especially the first 125 laps or >so. Only a couple of yellows. Had a lot of fun with Joonli and JeLe for >awhile during the first 60. I didn't get a chance to run any practice laps, so I sat that race out. Since I requested that people practice, it's only fair that I'm constrained by the same suggestions. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+6.19 N2002 Rank:+18.91 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> Eldred, > I have practiced on 429 too and had the same experience > for the most part. Of course, there is always the exception. > Here lately, I have been getting some experience avoiding > the wreckers and its kinda entertaining as long as I know > that going into the race. I usually start in the rear and > watch the wreckers and then try to go around them. About > half way through the race the wreckers are usually all gone > and then you race to see how close you can finish to the > leader.

You mean there's people in RASCAR who cause wrecks intentionally? I would say there usually are less prepared, less aware or perhaps less skillfull players present in the races, but no wreckers. Jan. =---

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> "grubbat" wrote... > > Eldred, > > I have practiced on 429 too and had the same experience > > for the most part. Of course, there is always the exception. > > Here lately, I have been getting some experience avoiding > > the wreckers and its kinda entertaining as long as I know > > that going into the race. I usually start in the rear and > > watch the wreckers and then try to go around them. About > > half way through the race the wreckers are usually all gone > > and then you race to see how close you can finish to the > > leader. > > You mean there's people in RASCAR who cause wrecks intentionally? > > I would say there usually are less prepared, less aware or perhaps less > skillfull players present in the races, but no wreckers. >

"Here lately" is a coloquialism meaning "Recently", and refers to his experiences on the 429 server. There are no wreckers (at least intentional wreckers) in RASCAR. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

"John Simmons" wrote... > <snip> > "Here lately" is a coloquialism meaning "Recently", and > refers to his experiences on the 429 server. > > There are no wreckers (at least intentional wreckers) > in RASCAR. I see... sorry 'bout that. Jan. =---

Jan, I was talking about wreckers on the sierra races. I did not mean to imply that there were wreckers in RASCAR. I haven't seen one yet. If there were, I'm sure they would be removed in short order. cheers, grub "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:TLXx9.6127$[email hidden]...

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> "John Simmons" wrote... > > <snip> > > "Here lately" is a coloquialism meaning "Recently", and > > refers to his experiences on the 429 server. > > > > There are no wreckers (at least intentional wreckers) > > in RASCAR. > > I see... sorry 'bout that. > > Jan. > =--- > >

Guess that there are all types out there who tend to judge people by their name. That is so sad. You'd think that we would have progressed by now. Heck, archie bunker has been off the air for over 20 years now and people just will not learn. That punk who called you a jap is probally some yankee wop wishing that he had some table scraps brains from a jap. One of my best friends is a jap and I hang out with crackers all the time. My wet-back brother-in-law has more sense than this yankee punk. archie grub bunker "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:g9Jx9.4949$[email hidden]... > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >I practiced for this race on the 429ford races on Sierra. Is it justme,

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> or > > >are the races on there exceptionally clean? > > > > Sorry, I've never heard of 429ford. This is an 'open' server with clean > races? > > Amazing... I didn't think it was possible. :-) > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Well there is some foolishness, but *relatively* they seem pretty doggone > clean. > Did have a bad experience there today practicing for Phoenix. Some guy

took > to calling me jap and foreigner. Must be because of the screen name JoonLi. > Thought it was pretty amusing considering I am really just run-of-the-mill > white trash. > > >

The remarks of a true gentleman. Very rare quality indeed. Might you be an Officer too? cheers, grub "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >For some reason I didn't think I was going to like that track, but itturned > >out to be a pretty good race by everyone. Especially the first 125 lapsor > >so. Only a couple of yellows. Had a lot of fun with Joonli and JeLe for > >awhile during the first 60. > > I didn't get a chance to run any practice laps, so I sat that race out.Since > I requested that people practice, it's only fair that I'm constrained bythe

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> same suggestions. > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+6.19 > N2002 Rank:+18.91 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>The remarks of a true gentleman. Very rare quality indeed. Might you be an >Officer too? Hehe...thanks. No, I'm not an Officer... :-) Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+6.19 N2002 Rank:+18.91 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >For some reason I didn't think I was going to like that track, but itturned > >out to be a pretty good race by everyone. Especially the first 125 lapsor > >so. Only a couple of yellows. Had a lot of fun with Joonli and JeLe for > >awhile during the first 60. > > I didn't get a chance to run any practice laps, so I sat that race out.Since > I requested that people practice, it's only fair that I'm constrained bythe > same suggestions. > > Eldred I have to admit I didn't practice for the last two races because I've gotten tired of practicing only to have the races ruined by freezes anyway. I made some bios changes recently, and the last two races I've only had a couple of freezes during yellows so maybe that problem is solved (almost anyway). I'm going to practice some for Phoenix though since it's not a typical oval. David G Fisher

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> > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >For some reason I didn't think I was going to like that track, but it > turned > > >out to be a pretty good race by everyone. Especially the first 125 laps > or > > >so. Only a couple of yellows. Had a lot of fun with Joonli and JeLe for > > >awhile during the first 60. > > > > I didn't get a chance to run any practice laps, so I sat that race out. > Since > > I requested that people practice, it's only fair that I'm constrained by > the > > same suggestions. > > > > Eldred > > I have to admit I didn't practice for the last two races because I've gotten > tired of practicing only to have the races ruined by freezes anyway. I made > some bios changes recently, and the last two races I've only had a couple of > freezes during yellows so maybe that problem is solved (almost anyway). > > I'm going to practice some for Phoenix though since it's not a typical oval. > > David G Fisher

I think my freezes are attributable to my video card getting hot. I took one side of the case off before the NC race and didn't have any problems. However, I was getting a 1-second freeze after initially getting on the track. I think this might be another problem, more to do with the sim. Hopefully, I'll have my new system assembled before the race on Saturday, but I doubt it. Maybe I'll stick the new video card in, though. :) -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

>I'm going to practice some for Phoenix though since it's not a typical oval. > I won't make the Phoenix race either. MoG is racing at Watkins Glen... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+6.19 N2002 Rank:+18.91 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I was having those too, putting in one of those blowers in the pci slot below my video card stopped it. Now every now and then I still get brief periods of funky psychadelic color flashes (maybe just acid flashbacks), but no more lockups. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > >For some reason I didn't think I was going to like that track, but it > > turned > > > >out to be a pretty good race by everyone. Especially the first 125

laps > > or > > > >so. Only a couple of yellows. Had a lot of fun with Joonli and JeLefor > > > >awhile during the first 60. > > > > > > I didn't get a chance to run any practice laps, so I sat that raceout. > > Since > > > I requested that people practice, it's only fair that I'm constrainedby > > the > > > same suggestions. > > > > > > Eldred > > > > I have to admit I didn't practice for the last two races because I'vegotten > > tired of practicing only to have the races ruined by freezes anyway. Imade > > some bios changes recently, and the last two races I've only had acouple of > > freezes during yellows so maybe that problem is solved (almost anyway). > > > > I'm going to practice some for Phoenix though since it's not a typicaloval.

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> > > > David G Fisher > > I think my freezes are attributable to my video card getting hot. I > took one side of the case off before the NC race and didn't have any > problems. However, I was getting a 1-second freeze after initially > getting on the track. I think this might be another problem, more to do > with the sim. > > Hopefully, I'll have my new system assembled before the race on > Saturday, but I doubt it. Maybe I'll stick the new video card in, > though. :) > > > -- > ========================================================= > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 > RASCAR Roster > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar > Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > =========================================================

one last note about my freezes Dave, With any of the ISI sims/mods, I can heavily overclock my GF3 vid card and run carefree online sessions for hours. If I run N2k2 with any OC I get a lockup within minutes. fyi dave henrie "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >For some reason I didn't think I was going to like that track, but it > turned > > >out to be a pretty good race by everyone. Especially the first 125 laps > or > > >so. Only a couple of yellows. Had a lot of fun with Joonli and JeLe for > > >awhile during the first 60. > > > > I didn't get a chance to run any practice laps, so I sat that race out. > Since > > I requested that people practice, it's only fair that I'm constrained by > the > > same suggestions. > > > > Eldred > > I have to admit I didn't practice for the last two races because I've

gotten > tired of practicing only to have the races ruined by freezes anyway. Imade > some bios changes recently, and the last two races I've only had a coupleof > freezes during yellows so maybe that problem is solved (almost anyway). > > I'm going to practice some for Phoenix though since it's not a typicaloval. > > David G Fisher > >

We're gonna have some troubles here, and I think the 'kink' is going to be a handful. I do not like how the car feels coming through this section. The front-end feels like it is 'floating', and to go fast you have to do it so it 'floats'right out to the wall. I see problems in the kink where cars that are up high try to keep from going low and hitting a car under them, and end up hitting that damned wall. Or, they mis-judge the kink and drive the low-line car down into the grass at the kink apex. The 'kink' bothers me :) The rest of the track is fine. -Larry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >I'm going to practice some for Phoenix though since it's not a typicaloval.

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> > > > I won't make the Phoenix race either. MoG is racing at Watkins Glen... > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+6.19 > N2002 Rank:+18.91 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> We're gonna have some troubles here, and I think the 'kink' > is going to be a handful. > > I do not like how the car feels coming through this section. > The front-end feels like it is 'floating', and to go fast you > have to do it so it 'floats'right out to the wall. > > I see problems in the kink where cars that are up high try > to keep from going low and hitting a car under them, and > end up hitting that damned wall. > Or, they mis-judge the kink and drive the low-line car > down into the grass at the kink apex. > > The 'kink' bothers me :) > > The rest of the track is fine.

Hmm, what kind of steering lock are you using on the fast setup? -I don't seem to have that vaguenessproblem there. Side by side is not possible without a feather on either line, IMO, but as to not being able to judge where it's going to go I, personally, don't foresee many problems. Jan. =---

Pay more attention to your linerity than wheel lock. -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mEvy9.8963$[email hidden]... Hmm, what kind of steering lock are you using on the fast setup? -I don't seem to have that vaguenessproblem there. Side by side is not possible without a feather on either line, IMO, but as to not being able to judge where it's going to go I, personally, don't foresee many problems. Jan. =---

>Hmm, what kind of steering lock are you using on the fast setup? -I don't >seem to have that vaguenessproblem there. Side by side is not possible >without a feather on either line, IMO, but as to not being able to judge >where it's going to go I, personally, don't foresee many problems. > I think the problem Larry's referring to is that it's difficult to see the inside edge of the track at the kink. If you take an outside line, you're in the wall before you realize it. If you take an inside line to avoid the wall, you clip the grass, and slide out to the wall on exit anyway. I have that same problem every lap, just about. Nothing to do with steering lock or linearity, but simply the apperance of the turn itself. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+6.19 N2002 Rank:+18.91 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mfuy9.14726$[email hidden]... > We're gonna have some troubles here, and I think the 'kink' is going to bea > handful. > > I do not like how the car feels coming through this section. Thefront-end > feels like it is 'floating', and to go fast you have to do it so it > 'floats'right out to the wall. > > I see problems in the kink where cars that are up high try to keep from > going low and hitting a car under them, and end up hitting that damnedwall.

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> Or, they mis-judge the kink and drive the low-line car down into the grass > at the kink apex. > > The 'kink' bothers me :) > > The rest of the track is fine. > > -Larry

One thing I noticed is that it is harder (for me at least) to miss a wreck that happens ahead of you. Maybe I've just had a bad run of luck here, but it feels like wrecks take up nearly the whole track in places.

Default, whatever that is. But it's not the steering lock. You can tell that the tires are "up on top of the road" so to speak. Almost feels like hydroplaning just as you come off of turn 2 towards that jutting wall. -Larry "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mEvy9.8963$[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" wrote... > > We're gonna have some troubles here, and I think the 'kink' > > is going to be a handful. > > > > I do not like how the car feels coming through this section. > > The front-end feels like it is 'floating', and to go fast you > > have to do it so it 'floats'right out to the wall. > > > > I see problems in the kink where cars that are up high try > > to keep from going low and hitting a car under them, and > > end up hitting that damned wall. > > Or, they mis-judge the kink and drive the low-line car > > down into the grass at the kink apex. > > > > The 'kink' bothers me :) > > > > The rest of the track is fine. > > Hmm, what kind of steering lock are you using on the fast setup? -I don't > seem to have that vaguenessproblem there. Side by side is not possible > without a feather on either line, IMO, but as to not being able to judge > where it's going to go I, personally, don't foresee many problems. > > Jan. > =--- > >

Linerity is easy for me. It's always at 100. I never use it. -Larry "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nowy9.79590$[email hidden]... Pay more attention to your linerity than wheel lock. -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com

That's pretty close :) I think it's going to get a whole lot more interesting when two (or three) cars go in there side by side. Personally, I'm going to try to avoid passing at the kink, unless forced too. -Larry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> >Hmm, what kind of steering lock are you using on the fast setup? -I don't > >seem to have that vaguenessproblem there. Side by side is not possible > >without a feather on either line, IMO, but as to not being able to judge > >where it's going to go I, personally, don't foresee many problems. > > > > I think the problem Larry's referring to is that it's difficult to see the > inside edge of the track at the kink. If you take an outside line, you're

in > the wall before you realize it. If you take an inside line to avoid thewall, > you clip the grass, and slide out to the wall on exit anyway. I have thatsame > problem every lap, just about. Nothing to do with steering lock orlinearity,

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> but simply the apperance of the turn itself. > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:+6.19 > N2002 Rank:+18.91 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

It's a fast-action track. No doubt about that. You aren't into the corners slow and lazy like Loudon. You're in hard on the brakes and hard on the gas out. Shit happens. Fast :) -Larry "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Mgxy9.1604$[email hidden]... > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:mfuy9.14726$[email hidden]... > > We're gonna have some troubles here, and I think the 'kink' is going tobe

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> a > > handful. > > > > I do not like how the car feels coming through this section. The > front-end > > feels like it is 'floating', and to go fast you have to do it so it > > 'floats'right out to the wall. > > > > I see problems in the kink where cars that are up high try to keep from > > going low and hitting a car under them, and end up hitting that damned > wall. > > Or, they mis-judge the kink and drive the low-line car down into the

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> > at the kink apex. > > > > The 'kink' bothers me :) > > > > The rest of the track is fine. > > > > -Larry > > One thing I noticed is that it is harder (for me at least) to miss a wreck > that happens ahead of you. Maybe I've just had a bad run of luck here, but > it feels like wrecks take up nearly the whole track in places. > > >

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> > <snip> > I think the problem Larry's referring to is that it's difficult > to see the inside edge of the track at the kink. If you take > an outside line, you're in the wall before you realize it. If > you take an inside line to avoid the wall, you clip the grass, > and slide out to the wall on exit anyway. I have that same > problem every lap, just about. Nothing to do with steering > lock or linearity, but simply the apperance of the turn itself.

See my reply to Larry... Jan. =---

"Larry" wrote... > Default, whatever that is. 18 degrees, which, on my rig, makes the car overresponsive and, at time, impossibly heavy to steer. I use 24 degrees. > But it's not the steering lock. I see... and you know this without having tried different values? <g> > You can tell that the tires are "up on top of the road" so to > speak. Almost feels like hydroplaning just as you come off of > turn 2 towards that jutting wall. Larry, Eldred... sorry guys, but I just don't see the problem. I drove a 40% race with the SOAR-LAS league there last Saturday without any practise whatsoever, using the fast setup with just the steering lock and the brake balance adjusted to suit my rig. I had no trouble navigating the kink on my own, fighting for position or lapping people. Neither myself, nor any of the other competitors ever came close to nailing the bit of wall jutting out of 2 just before the kink either. I passed and was passed through 1-2 as well without trouble. On one occasion I swiped the wall out of 4 pretty hard, but that was just in-attention rather than a problem with the track or the "fast" setup. I'm sure now that I've said this, murphy's law will see to it I wipe out spectacularly in that section in the RASCAR race, though.... <g> Jan. =---

Larry says: The 'kink' bothers me :) The rest of the track is fine. -Larry ------------------------------------------ Well, I guess we now know Larry isn't kinky. ;-) -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League CORS RASCAR GPL Rank + 17.46 MoGPL Rank + 349.43 N2K2 Rank +7.747 http://www.ZZBusch.com ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: A good carpenter can nail anything -----------------

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> > "Larry" wrote... > > Default, whatever that is. > > 18 degrees, which, on my rig, makes the car overresponsive and, at time, > impossibly heavy to steer. I use 24 degrees. > > > But it's not the steering lock. > > I see... and you know this without having tried different values? <g> > > > You can tell that the tires are "up on top of the road" so to > > speak. Almost feels like hydroplaning just as you come off of > > turn 2 towards that jutting wall. > > Larry, Eldred... sorry guys, but I just don't see the problem. I drove a 40% > race with the SOAR-LAS league there last Saturday without any practise > whatsoever, using the fast setup with just the steering lock and the brake > balance adjusted to suit my rig. > > I had no trouble navigating the kink on my own, fighting for position or > lapping people. Neither myself, nor any of the other competitors ever came > close to nailing the bit of wall jutting out of 2 just before the kink > either. I passed and was passed through 1-2 as well without trouble. On one > occasion I swiped the wall out of 4 pretty hard, but that was just > in-attention rather than a problem with the track or the "fast" setup. > > I'm sure now that I've said this, murphy's law will see to it I wipe out > spectacularly in that section in the RASCAR race, though.... <g> >

I didn't know you could adjust the brake bias in fixed setup mode. I just use it (and the steering settings) the way it came out of the box. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

"John Simmons" wrote... > I didn't know you could adjust the brake bias in fixed > setup mode. I just use it (and the steering settings) > the way it came out of the box. You can't adjust brake bias in fixed setup mode. SOAR-LAS is open setup, but I hadn't practised at all, so I just took the fast setups, saved as and changed the steering lock (as I usually do in RASCAR) and the brake bias (as I wish I could in RASCAR... I hate LF lock-ups) to suit my wheel/pedal combo. Jan. =---

>Larry, Eldred... sorry guys, but I just don't see the problem. I drove a 40% >race with the SOAR-LAS league there last Saturday without any practise >whatsoever, using the fast setup with just the steering lock and the brake >balance adjusted to suit my rig. Well, you guys are just that much better than I am. That's one of the reasons I quit Soar-LAS... For me, it has nothing to do with the steering. I simply can't see the turn clearly enough to know when to turn, what speed to be at, etc. I have the same issues on several GPL tracks(Silverstone being the worst). Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+6.19 N2002 Rank:+18.91 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>"EldredP" wrote... >> > <snip> >> I think the problem Larry's referring to is that it's difficult >> to see the inside edge of the track at the kink. If you take >> an outside line, you're in the wall before you realize it. If >> you take an inside line to avoid the wall, you clip the grass, >> and slide out to the wall on exit anyway. I have that same >> problem every lap, just about. Nothing to do with steering >> lock or linearity, but simply the apperance of the turn itself. > >See my reply to Larry...

I did - it STILL isn't steering lock...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:+6.19 N2002 Rank:+18.91 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> >Larry, Eldred... sorry guys, but I just don't see the problem. I drove a 40% > >race with the SOAR-LAS league there last Saturday without any practise > >whatsoever, using the fast setup with just the steering lock and the brake > >balance adjusted to suit my rig. > > Well, you guys are just that much better than I am. That's one of the reasons > I quit Soar-LAS... > For me, it has nothing to do with the steering. I simply can't see the turn > clearly enough to know when to turn, what speed to be at, etc. I have the same > issues on several GPL tracks(Silverstone being the worst). > > Eldred >

Eldred, try driving in chase view. It really helps with the road courses. If you want to get closer to the track but still be high enough to see, use the roof view. Both of these views are also easier on the FPS from what I've seen. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 RASCAR Roster http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar Barbarian Diecast Collector (490+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Yes, I tried different values. It is NOT steering lock :) -Larry "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tKAy9.9940$[email hidden]...

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> > "Larry" wrote... > > Default, whatever that is. > > 18 degrees, which, on my rig, makes the car overresponsive and, at time, > impossibly heavy to steer. I use 24 degrees. > > > But it's not the steering lock. > > I see... and you know this without having tried different values? <g> > > > You can tell that the tires are "up on top of the road" so to > > speak. Almost feels like hydroplaning just as you come off of > > turn 2 towards that jutting wall. > > Larry, Eldred... sorry guys, but I just don't see the problem. I drove a

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> race with the SOAR-LAS league there last Saturday without any practise > whatsoever, using the fast setup with just the steering lock and the brake > balance adjusted to suit my rig. > > I had no trouble navigating the kink on my own, fighting for position or > lapping people. Neither myself, nor any of the other competitors ever came > close to nailing the bit of wall jutting out of 2 just before the kink > either. I passed and was passed through 1-2 as well without trouble. On

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> occasion I swiped the wall out of 4 pretty hard, but that was just > in-attention rather than a problem with the track or the "fast" setup. > > I'm sure now that I've said this, murphy's law will see to it I wipe out > spectacularly in that section in the RASCAR race, though.... <g> > > Jan. > =--- > >

"Larry" wrote... > Yes, I tried different values. > > It is NOT steering lock :) Alrighty then... you suck! -Happy now? Jan. ;-)) =---

Sure! -Larry "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9rdz9.12493$[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" wrote... > > Yes, I tried different values. > > > > It is NOT steering lock :) > > Alrighty then... you suck! -Happy now? > > Jan. ;-)) > =--- > >