Which?: MOMO Original with ACT Labs Pedals and Shifter or New MOMO

If money is a factor, then I assume everyone could get by with the new plastic MOMO. But is the old MOMO "wheel," Act-Labs "pedals" and "shifter" the ultimate mainstream combo for high quality? How much better is one vs. the other? I am perhaps crazily considering the old MOMO while I can still get one and adding the Act-Labs stuff. It will be more than double the price of the new MOMO, which won't have a clutch pedal. If I could try the new MOMO first, it would make the decision a lot easier, but I fear that by the time I can do that, the old MOMO will be gone. Every store I have talked to has it on recall in anticipation of getting the new one in. Anyone use the old MOMO and Act-Labs combo? Is it as great as it sounds? Thanks, Marc (with birthday approaching) -- **************************************************************************** Marc Collins [email hidden] Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? ****************************************************************************

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> If money is a factor, then I assume everyone could get by with the new > plastic MOMO. But is the old MOMO "wheel," Act-Labs "pedals" and "shifter" > the ultimate mainstream combo for high quality? > > How much better is one vs. the other? I am perhaps crazily considering the > old MOMO while I can still get one and adding the Act-Labs stuff. It will > be more than double the price of the new MOMO, which won't have a clutch > pedal. > > If I could try the new MOMO first, it would make the decision a lot easier, > but I fear that by the time I can do that, the old MOMO will be gone. Every > store I have talked to has it on recall in anticipation of getting the new > one in. > > Anyone use the old MOMO and Act-Labs combo? Is it as great as it sounds?

Bear in mind that the new momo shifter is a sequential jobbie - i.e. forward and back only - and you might answer your own question. My Act-Labs pedals are boxed up for Christmas (only way my wife would let me have them) but I tried them briefly to make sure they worked. They are *vastly* superior to the orginal MOMO unit. The travel means the pedals end up a little too horizontal compared to what I'm used to, but I'm sure I'll manage somehow. Currently I use TM NASCAR Pro pedals and T2 gas pedal for clutch. Once you've experienced driving GPL/N2K2 with clutch and real shift action, you will not want to go back. It adds to the immersion factor almost as much as upgrading to a wheel in the first place... Mark Reading, UK

the only act-laps product I use with the old momo is a GPL shifter. work fine Peter "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UWky9.7669$[email hidden]... > If money is a factor, then I assume everyone could get by with the new > plastic MOMO. But is the old MOMO "wheel," Act-Labs "pedals" and"shifter" > the ultimate mainstream combo for high quality? > > How much better is one vs. the other? I am perhaps crazily consideringthe > old MOMO while I can still get one and adding the Act-Labs stuff. It will > be more than double the price of the new MOMO, which won't have a clutch > pedal. > > If I could try the new MOMO first, it would make the decision a loteasier, > but I fear that by the time I can do that, the old MOMO will be gone.Every

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> store I have talked to has it on recall in anticipation of getting the new > one in. > > Anyone use the old MOMO and Act-Labs combo? Is it as great as it sounds? > > Thanks, > > Marc (with birthday approaching) > > > > -- >

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My main concern with the shifter is where to put it/how to mount it. One built-in to the wheel would be a lot more convenient. Does it work in sequential mode, too (since most modern cars need that)? What are the mounting options? Couldn't tell much from the web site. Thanks, Marc "Peter Jensen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aqedr4$r39$[email hidden]...

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> the only act-laps product I use with the old momo is a GPL shifter. > work fine > > Peter > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:UWky9.7669$[email hidden]... > > If money is a factor, then I assume everyone could get by with the new > > plastic MOMO. But is the old MOMO "wheel," Act-Labs "pedals" and > "shifter" > > the ultimate mainstream combo for high quality? > > > > How much better is one vs. the other? I am perhaps crazily considering > the > > old MOMO while I can still get one and adding the Act-Labs stuff. It

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> > be more than double the price of the new MOMO, which won't have a clutch > > pedal. > > > > If I could try the new MOMO first, it would make the decision a lot > easier, > > but I fear that by the time I can do that, the old MOMO will be gone. > Every > > store I have talked to has it on recall in anticipation of getting the

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> > > > Thanks, > > > > Marc (with birthday approaching) > > > > > > > > -- > > >

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I was sure the ACT LABS would be better than the MOMO pedals...but how much better are they than good pedals (like the Ferrari or perhaps even the new MOMO)? Am I correct that I will still have to have the MOMO pedals hanging around somewhere because that's where the power connector is? Marc "Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<UWky9.7669$[email hidden]>... > > If money is a factor, then I assume everyone could get by with the new > > plastic MOMO. But is the old MOMO "wheel," Act-Labs "pedals" and"shifter" > > the ultimate mainstream combo for high quality? > > > > How much better is one vs. the other? I am perhaps crazily consideringthe > > old MOMO while I can still get one and adding the Act-Labs stuff. Itwill > > be more than double the price of the new MOMO, which won't have a clutch > > pedal. > > > > If I could try the new MOMO first, it would make the decision a loteasier, > > but I fear that by the time I can do that, the old MOMO will be gone.Every > > store I have talked to has it on recall in anticipation of getting thenew > > one in. > > > > Anyone use the old MOMO and Act-Labs combo? Is it as great as itsounds?

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> > Bear in mind that the new momo shifter is a sequential jobbie - i.e. > forward and back only - and you might answer your own question. My > Act-Labs pedals are boxed up for Christmas (only way my wife would let > me have them) but I tried them briefly to make sure they worked. They > are *vastly* superior to the orginal MOMO unit. The travel means the > pedals end up a little too horizontal compared to what I'm used to, > but I'm sure I'll manage somehow. Currently I use TM NASCAR Pro > pedals and T2 gas pedal for clutch. > > Once you've experienced driving GPL/N2K2 with clutch and real shift > action, you will not want to go back. It adds to the immersion factor > almost as much as upgrading to a wheel in the first place... > > Mark > Reading, UK

"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GsHy9.11471$[email hidden]... > I was sure the ACT LABS would be better than the MOMO pedals...but howmuch > better are they than good pedals (like the Ferrari or perhaps even the new > MOMO)? Am I correct that I will still have to have the MOMO pedalshanging > around somewhere because that's where the power connector is? I really like the Thrustmaster pedals I've got and the TM Ferrari ones look very similar. It's horses for courses, but the TM pedals are in a DIFFERENT LEAGUE to the original MOMOs. I'd even go as far to say the gas and brake have better feel the the Act-Labs... Maybe it just because that's what I'm used to. Can't comment on the new MOMO pedals. The original MOMO pedals are, IMO, complete and utter rubbish. A waste of floorspace. Please note I use a clutch so use left and right foot braking. If you are only gonna left foot brake then they may seem not so bad. If you can get by with a screwdriver I'm sure you could get rid of the pedal base, but to be honest I keep it wired up and shifted out the way just in case I a) have a driving game I like that doesn't support multiple controllers (like when LFS first appeared) or b) ever get a console that supports USB controllers... Regards, Mark Reading, UK

"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KqHy9.11466$[email hidden]... > My main concern with the shifter is where to put it/how to mount it. One > built-in to the wheel would be a lot more convenient. > > Does it work in sequential mode, too (since most modern cars need that)? > What are the mounting options? Couldn't tell much from the web site. There was a sequential shift plate which I believe is discontinued. As for mounting, the shifter gets screwed to a bracket that goes under the wheel and is held in place by the wheel clamping mechanism. It can be set up for either left or right side use. I have had no problems with this mounting solution. Regards, Mark Reading, UK

"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GsHy9.11471$[email hidden]... > I was sure the ACT LABS would be better than the MOMO pedals...but howmuch > better are they than good pedals (like the Ferrari or perhaps even the new > MOMO)? Am I correct that I will still have to have the MOMO pedalshanging > around somewhere because that's where the power connector is? Take a look at this page to find out how the MOMO is wired, and how you can get rid of the pedals. http://www.tytlandsvik.no/momo/ Jone.

I agree about the Ferrari pedals...I love them. Incredibly high resolution brake pedal which allows for accurate braking in GPL. Thanks for the comments about the MOMO pedals--I guess they are basically the same as the regular Logi pedals, which are crap. Marc "Mark Davison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aqftel$9di$[email hidden]... > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GsHy9.11471$[email hidden]... > > I was sure the ACT LABS would be better than the MOMO pedals...but how > much > > better are they than good pedals (like the Ferrari or perhaps even thenew > > MOMO)? Am I correct that I will still have to have the MOMO pedals > hanging > > around somewhere because that's where the power connector is? > > I really like the Thrustmaster pedals I've got and the TM Ferrari oneslook > very similar. It's horses for courses, but the TM pedals are in aDIFFERENT > LEAGUE to the original MOMOs. I'd even go as far to say the gas and brake > have better feel the the Act-Labs... Maybe it just because that's whatI'm > used to. Can't comment on the new MOMO pedals. > > The original MOMO pedals are, IMO, complete and utter rubbish. A waste of > floorspace. Please note I use a clutch so use left and right footbraking. > If you are only gonna left foot brake then they may seem not so bad. > > If you can get by with a screwdriver I'm sure you could get rid of thepedal

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> base, but to be honest I keep it wired up and shifted out the way just in > case I a) have a driving game I like that doesn't support multiple > controllers (like when LFS first appeared) or b) ever get a console that > supports USB controllers... > > Regards, > > Mark > Reading, UK > >

Wow...is there anything "we" can't do to make our enjoyment of sims perfect? Thanks for the incredible link! Marc "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aqghm3$9t0o0$[email hidden]... > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GsHy9.11471$[email hidden]... > > I was sure the ACT LABS would be better than the MOMO pedals...but how > much > > better are they than good pedals (like the Ferrari or perhaps even thenew > > MOMO)? Am I correct that I will still have to have the MOMO pedals > hanging > > around somewhere because that's where the power connector is? > > Take a look at this page to find out how the MOMO is wired, and how youcan

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> get rid of the pedals. > > http://www.tytlandsvik.no/momo/ > > Jone. > >

I need and want a sequential shifting option, so if they don't have that, they will have lost a sale. Marc "Mark Davison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aqftno$24a$[email hidden]... > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:KqHy9.11466$[email hidden]... > > My main concern with the shifter is where to put it/how to mount it.One > > built-in to the wheel would be a lot more convenient. > > > > Does it work in sequential mode, too (since most modern cars need that)? > > What are the mounting options? Couldn't tell much from the web site. > > There was a sequential shift plate which I believe is discontinued. Asfor > mounting, the shifter gets screwed to a bracket that goes under the wheel > and is held in place by the wheel clamping mechanism. It can be set upfor

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> either left or right side use. I have had no problems with this mounting > solution. > > Regards, > > Mark > Reading, UK > >