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http://www.feral.co.uk/english/ There is a Demo available. 45MB. There is also a Trailer. -Larry

http://www.feral.co.uk/english/ There is a Demo available. 45MB. There is also a Trailer. -Larry

Games?!? On a Mac??!? Wow! ;-) "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8SyA9.1467$[email hidden]...

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> http://www.feral.co.uk/english/ > > There is a Demo available. 45MB. There is also a Trailer. > > -Larry > >

http://www.wiredvideo.com/public/video/apple_gamer.wmv Enjoy, Phillip "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8SyA9.1467$[email hidden]...

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> http://www.feral.co.uk/english/ > > There is a Demo available. 45MB. There is also a Trailer. > > -Larry > >

Ya seen that before but its still funny and true. :-) "Phillip Malphrus Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> http://www.wiredvideo.com/public/video/apple_gamer.wmv > > Enjoy, Phillip > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8SyA9.1467$[email hidden]... > > http://www.feral.co.uk/english/ > > > > There is a Demo available. 45MB. There is also a Trailer. > > > > -Larry > > > > > >

Looks like Macplay will do the marketing in the US. The specs require a G4 starting at 500 mHz and 32 MB video card. I'm wondering if they ported it as is or added anything like changable weather and telemetry. Their web site says a Nov. 15 release date. I'm hopeful. In the meantime Racer looks great on a PB G4. The install was a piece of cake as well. Great work Ruud! Jim Larry wrote:

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>http://www.feral.co.uk/english/ > >There is a Demo available. 45MB. There is also a Trailer. > >-Larry > >

The Carvalho Family wrote: > Looks like Macplay will do the marketing in the US. The specs require a > G4 starting at 500 mHz and 32 MB video card. I'm wondering if they > ported it as is or added anything like changable weather and telemetry. > Their web site says a Nov. 15 release date. I'm hopeful. No, 22 november, and the demo says 333 MHz G3 and 8 MB Videocard on OpenGL. That's the usual understatement, though. Like the PC version, this one really wants something faster. I have a 400 MHz G3 and a Radeon 7000 (VE) and still had to turn nearly all the gfx options off to get decent fps on MacOS X. Also, this one wants a wheel, of course. (Mac users usually don't have wheels since there haven't been any (!) race sims since Nascar 1 in 1996.) I was not-too-shabby with the keyboard in GPL, but in this one I can only manage a measly 1:21.799 on the Indy F1 course... Gotta look at a USB wheel I guess... Still, hats off to Feral for finally giving us a racing game. Even if it's only F1 2000 (!) CS and no GPL... > In the meantime Racer looks great on a PB G4. The install was a piece of > cake as well. Great work Ruud! Yeah! Ruud is da man! (The other Ruud, that is! ;) Drove around the Nurburgring Nordschleife on a Mac... Cool! ;) Too bad the track's still so bumpy (buggy). Still, when this is done, it may five F1 2000 (!) a run for its money on the Mac. >> http://www.feral.co.uk/english/ Regards, Ruud (the other one)

And that has what to do with the subject ? Sheesh, why do the zealots always come out of the woodwork... -Larry "Phillip Malphrus Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> http://www.wiredvideo.com/public/video/apple_gamer.wmv > > Enjoy, Phillip > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8SyA9.1467$[email hidden]... > > http://www.feral.co.uk/english/ > > > > There is a Demo available. 45MB. There is also a Trailer. > > > > -Larry > > > > > >

Sorry for my crankyness, but this us vs. them, them vs. us stuff is something I'm just about fed up with :) And I agree Apple's 'switch' campaign deserves all the ridicule it gets. It's quite stupid, really. -Larry "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ndOA9.4018$[email hidden]...

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> And that has what to do with the subject ? > > Sheesh, why do the zealots always come out of the woodwork... > > -Larry > > "Phillip Malphrus Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > http://www.wiredvideo.com/public/video/apple_gamer.wmv > > > > Enjoy, Phillip > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:8SyA9.1467$[email hidden]... > > > http://www.feral.co.uk/english/ > > > > > > There is a Demo available. 45MB. There is also a Trailer. > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > > > > > > >

Who'duv thunk: A choice of driving sims for Mac! I choose both! But I'll probably run GPL on my PC most of the time. I was looking around and saw a USB wheel for Mac somewhere. I'll have to find it again. I haven't downloaded the feral demo, yet. I'm wating till I can get back to my T1 line; looks like a big file. Jim Ruud Dingemans wrote:

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> The Carvalho Family wrote: > >> Looks like Macplay will do the marketing in the US. The specs require >> a G4 starting at 500 mHz and 32 MB video card. I'm wondering if they >> ported it as is or added anything like changable weather and >> telemetry. Their web site says a Nov. 15 release date. I'm hopeful. > > > No, 22 november, and the demo says 333 MHz G3 and 8 MB Videocard on > OpenGL. That's the usual understatement, though. Like the PC version, > this one really wants something faster. > > I have a 400 MHz G3 and a Radeon 7000 (VE) and still had to turn > nearly all the gfx options off to get decent fps on MacOS X. > > Also, this one wants a wheel, of course. (Mac users usually don't have > wheels since there haven't been any (!) race sims since Nascar 1 in > 1996.) I was not-too-shabby with the keyboard in GPL, but in this one > I can only manage a measly 1:21.799 on the Indy F1 course... Gotta > look at a USB wheel I guess... > > Still, hats off to Feral for finally giving us a racing game. Even if > it's only F1 2000 (!) CS and no GPL... > >> In the meantime Racer looks great on a PB G4. The install was a piece >> of cake as well. Great work Ruud! > > > Yeah! Ruud is da man! (The other Ruud, that is! ;) > > Drove around the Nurburgring Nordschleife on a Mac... Cool! ;) Too > bad the track's still so bumpy (buggy). Still, when this is done, it > may five F1 2000 (!) a run for its money on the Mac. > >>> http://www.feral.co.uk/english/ >> > > Regards, Ruud (the other one) > > >

>>> wheels since there haven't been any (!) race sims since Nascar 1 in >>> 1996.) I was not-too-shabby with the keyboard in GPL, but in this one >>> I can only manage a measly 1:21.799 on the Indy F1 course... (Note that should be 1:16.2 now, after changing some setups ;) Still, it does need a wheel really. Most USB wheels should do with the USB Overdrive util on the Mac.. >>> Still, hats off to Feral for finally giving us a racing game. Even if >>> it's only F1 2000 (!) CS and no GPL... > Who'duv thunk: A choice of driving sims for Mac! I choose both! But I'll > probably run GPL on my PC most of the time. Yeah, me too.. (and SCGT, in my case. Not much else will run decently on my old PII setup...) I was looking around and saw > a USB wheel for Mac somewhere. I'll have to find it again. I haven't > downloaded the feral demo, yet. I'm wating till I can get back to my T1 > line; looks like a big file. It is, 45 Megabytes. Turns out we will be able to use several pc files (track updates, tracks?) on the Mac version, since it seems they have preserved the old .mas and .aiw-structures. Regards, Ruud

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> >>>> wheels since there haven't been any (!) race sims since Nascar 1 in >>>> 1996.) I was not-too-shabby with the keyboard in GPL, but in this >>>> one I can only manage a measly 1:21.799 on the Indy F1 course... >>> > > (Note that should be 1:16.2 now, after changing some setups ;) Still, > it does need a wheel really. Most USB wheels should do with the USB > Overdrive util on the Mac.

Ruud, I'm depressed...I mean impressed! Yeah, both. What is the "USB Overdrive util" you mention? Is it OS X? OS 9? Part of system software? Download site? TIA

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> > >>>> Still, hats off to Feral for finally giving us a racing game. Even >>>> if it's only F1 2000 (!) CS and no GPL... >>> > >> Who'duv thunk: A choice of driving sims for Mac! I choose both! But >> I'll probably run GPL on my PC most of the time. > > > Yeah, me too.. (and SCGT, in my case. Not much else will run decently > on my old PII setup...) > > I was looking around and saw > >> a USB wheel for Mac somewhere. I'll have to find it again. I haven't >> downloaded the feral demo, yet. I'm wating till I can get back to my >> T1 line; looks like a big file. > > > It is, 45 Megabytes. Turns out we will be able to use several pc files > (track updates, tracks?) on the Mac version, since it seems they have > preserved the old .mas and .aiw-structures.

The Racer files are also cross-platform compatible, as I understand it. > > > Regards, Ruud > Jim

In article <[email hidden]>, The Carvalho Family <[email hidden]> wrote: SNIP! > Ruud, I'm depressed...I mean impressed! Yeah, both. > What is the "USB Overdrive util" you mention? Is it OS X? OS 9? Part of > system software? Download site? > TIA http://www.usboverdrive.com Versions for both 9 and X. Driver works with mice and etc. (for mice, better drivers than logictech, not quite as good as kennsington mouseworks). Shouldn't be necessary for wheels (see below). > > > > > > >>>> Still, hats off to Feral for finally giving us a racing game. Even > >>>> if it's only F1 2000 (!) CS and no GPL... Amen!!!! 'Specially since I'm w/o a peecee till later this year so no GPL or F1 2k2 till then.

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> >>> > > > >> Who'duv thunk: A choice of driving sims for Mac! I choose both! But > >> I'll probably run GPL on my PC most of the time. > > > > > > Yeah, me too.. (and SCGT, in my case. Not much else will run decently > > on my old PII setup...) > > > > I was looking around and saw > > > >> a USB wheel for Mac somewhere. I'll have to find it again. I haven't > >> downloaded the feral demo, yet. I'm wating till I can get back to my > >> T1 line; looks like a big file.

MOMO force is working fine, don't even need usboverdrive, as the wheel goes right to the hid. Apple should be adding FF sometime soon (we hope ;-) and Feral will release a FF patch soon after. > > > > > > It is, 45 Megabytes. Turns out we will be able to use several pc files > > (track updates, tracks?) on the Mac version, since it seems they have > > preserved the old .mas and .aiw-structures. I grabbed some 2002 cars from: http://www.natazone.narod.ru/f1cs2000_3.htm the ferrari works (and has tobacco decals), with the demo and the others should work with the full game (put the toyota in the prost folder). I DL'd several setups for Indy, they work. New tracks (Sebring, LSeca), don't. Think it's a demo issue and they should be fine for the full version. car mods (brake glow, new tires etc.), need to be edited on the pc or virtual pc (.mas thing), saved and opened on the mac. > > > The Racer files are also cross-platform compatible, as I understand it. <homer simpson> Mmmmm,.... Racer </homer simpson>

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> > > > > > > Regards, Ruud > > > > Jim >

Ciao a tutti, -dan

The Carvalho Family wrote: >> it does need a wheel really. Most USB wheels should do with the USB >> Overdrive util on the Mac. > > What is the "USB Overdrive util" you mention? Is it OS X? OS 9? Part of > system software? Download site? No, it's a shareware util that's got a reputation for getting all kinds of USB input thingies to work on a Mac. Dunno how many people have tried it with a wheel, but it's OS9/OSX I believe. You can reach it through Versiontracker.com. > The Racer files are also cross-platform compatible, as I understand it. Yes, they are. I downloaded the Zandvoort, Brands, Brno and Nurburgring tracks and they work fine. Some tracks (like Brands) slow things way down though, while Zandvoort and Brno are OK. Regards, Ruud

In article <ar6cme$u40$[email hidden]>, Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> wrote: > > The Racer files are also cross-platform compatible, as I understand it. > > Yes, they are. I downloaded the Zandvoort, Brands, Brno and Nurburgring > tracks and they work fine. Some tracks (like Brands) slow things way > down though, while Zandvoort and Brno are OK. Unfortunately, I have yet to find any additional car that works for the 0.5b6-mac-version. I always get the message that the car is for an incompatible version of racer. I've read the remarks on Ruuds (the other one 8^)) pages and it seems that some things have changed internally and most car files are either too old or too new (0.5b7). Any more Mac "Racer" users out there? Herwig

Dan, Thanks for the post! All the info I'd hoped for and more. Now I need to get some DL time then some play time. Sorry to hear you're w/o GPL for a while. I feel your pain, brother. Jim speed_n_trixie_rule_baby wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, The Carvalho Family ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >SNIP! > >>Ruud, I'm depressed...I mean impressed! Yeah, both. >>What is the "USB Overdrive util" you mention? Is it OS X? OS 9? Part of >>system software? Download site? >>TIA >> > > http://www.usboverdrive.com >Versions for both 9 and X. Driver works with mice and etc. (for mice, >better drivers than logictech, not quite as good as kennsington >mouseworks). Shouldn't be necessary for wheels (see below). > >>> >>>>>>Still, hats off to Feral for finally giving us a racing game. Even >>>>>>if it's only F1 2000 (!) CS and no GPL... >>>>>> > >Amen!!!! 'Specially since I'm w/o a peecee till later this year so no >GPL or F1 2k2 till then. > >>>>Who'duv thunk: A choice of driving sims for Mac! I choose both! But >>>>I'll probably run GPL on my PC most of the time. >>>> >>> >>>Yeah, me too.. (and SCGT, in my case. Not much else will run decently >>>on my old PII setup...) >>> >>>I was looking around and saw >>> >>>>a USB wheel for Mac somewhere. I'll have to find it again. I haven't >>>>downloaded the feral demo, yet. I'm wating till I can get back to my >>>>T1 line; looks like a big file. >>>> > >MOMO force is working fine, don't even need usboverdrive, as the wheel >goes right to the hid. >Apple should be adding FF sometime soon (we hope ;-) and Feral will >release a FF patch soon after. > >>> >>>It is, 45 Megabytes. Turns out we will be able to use several pc files >>>(track updates, tracks?) on the Mac version, since it seems they have >>>preserved the old .mas and .aiw-structures. >>> > >I grabbed some 2002 cars from: >http://www.natazone.narod.ru/f1cs2000_3.htm >the ferrari works (and has tobacco decals), with the demo and the >others should work with the full game (put the toyota in the prost >folder). > >I DL'd several setups for Indy, they work. New tracks (Sebring, LSeca), >don't. Think it's a demo issue and they should be fine for the full >version. > >car mods (brake glow, new tires etc.), need to be edited on the pc or >virtual pc (.mas thing), saved and opened on the mac. > >> >>The Racer files are also cross-platform compatible, as I understand it. >> > ><homer simpson> >Mmmmm,.... Racer ></homer simpson> > >>> >>>Regards, Ruud >>> >>Jim >> > Ciao a tutti, > > -dan >

Ruud, Did you see speed_n_trixie_rule_baby's post? I'll try to DL Zandvoort & Brno. Thanks for the tips. Jim Ruud Dingemans wrote:

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> The Carvalho Family wrote: > >>> it does need a wheel really. Most USB wheels should do with the USB >>> Overdrive util on the Mac. >> >> >> What is the "USB Overdrive util" you mention? Is it OS X? OS 9? Part >> of system software? Download site? > > > No, it's a shareware util that's got a reputation for getting all > kinds of USB input thingies to work on a Mac. Dunno how many people > have tried it with a wheel, but it's OS9/OSX I believe. You can reach > it through Versiontracker.com. > >> The Racer files are also cross-platform compatible, as I understand it. > > > Yes, they are. I downloaded the Zandvoort, Brands, Brno and > Nurburgring tracks and they work fine. Some tracks (like Brands) slow > things way down though, while Zandvoort and Brno are OK. > > Regards, Ruud >

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>Unfortunately, I have yet to find any additional car that works for the >0.5b6-mac-version. I always get the message that the car is for an >incompatible version of racer. I've read the remarks on Ruuds (the >other one 8^)) pages and it seems that some things have changed >internally and most car files are either too old or too new (0.5b7). > >Any more Mac "Racer" users out there? > >Herwig >

Herwig, I count 5 of us so far. If it gets any more trendy than that, I'm outa here! ;-) Maybe we could all (5!?!) inundate Ruud so he knows his Mac work is appreciated. Jim

The Carvalho Family wrote: >> Unfortunately, I have yet to find any additional car that works for the >> 0.5b6-mac-version. I always get the message that the car is for an (Same here, unfortunately) >> Any more Mac "Racer" users out there? Yo! <Waves hand> > I count 5 of us so far. If it gets any more trendy than that, I'm outa > here! ;-) I've found another couple in our national Dutch Mac newzgroup, so don't go there then ;) > Maybe we could all (5!?!) inundate Ruud so he knows his Mac work is > appreciated. Thanks ;) Oh, the other Ruud you mean. Yeah. Well, I mail him regularly but I think he gets a lot of mail. Nevertheless, a *short* Mac thankyou message would be an encouragement I guess. Racer/Mac needs it. Regards, Ruud

In article <ara3rl$2iq$[email hidden]>, Ruud Dingemans <[email hidden]> wrote: !!!!!SNIP!!!!

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> > Maybe we could all (5!?!) inundate Ruud so he knows his Mac work is > > appreciated. > > Thanks ;) Oh, the other Ruud you mean. Yeah. Well, I mail him > regularly but I think he gets a lot of mail. Nevertheless, a *short* Mac > thankyou message would be an encouragement I guess. Racer/Mac needs it. > > Regards, Ruud > >

Just sent him a several sentence thank-you note. Racer really is a gorgeous, lush bit of opengl goodness! -dan