TIR Installation Problem and Won't Run

Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their systems. Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot get TIR to run. When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to the routine to install the actual game. However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to install?" So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a patch that addreses this? Thanks! Bert

Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their systems. Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot get TIR to run. When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to the routine to install the actual game. However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to install?" So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a patch that addreses this? Thanks! Bert

I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP home. Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd by running dxsetup.exe? -- Joe M. "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > systems. > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > get TIR to run. > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to > the routine to install the actual game. > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > install?" > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a patch > that addreses this? > > Thanks! > Bert > >

Haven't tried that, Joe. Thx for that suggestion. FWIW, I'm running Win 98SE. "Joe M." wrote:

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> I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP > home. > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd by > running dxsetup.exe? > > -- > Joe M. > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > systems. > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > > get TIR to run. > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to > > the routine to install the actual game. > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > install?" > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a patch > > that addreses this? > > > > Thanks! > > Bert > > > >

Haven't tried that, Joe. Thx for that suggestion. FWIW, I'm running Win 98SE.

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> I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP > home. > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd by > running dxsetup.exe? > -- > Joe M. > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > systems. > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > > get TIR to run. > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to > > the routine to install the actual game. > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > install?" > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a patch > > that addreses this? > > Thanks! > > Bert

Joe, I tried your suggestion -- same results. In fact, clicking on DirectX in Control Panel indicates that I still have DirectX 8.2 installed. Judging from the speed of the DX 8.1b "installation", my guess is that the DX installation routine reads that I have a "newer" version installed and does not install over it. So, what version of Direct X does your system indicate you have after installing TIR? "Joe M." wrote:

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> I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP > home. > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd by > running dxsetup.exe? > > -- > Joe M. > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > systems. > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > > get TIR to run. > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to > > the routine to install the actual game. > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > install?" > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a patch > > that addreses this? > > > > Thanks! > > Bert > > > >

Joe, I tried your suggestion -- same results. In fact, clicking on DirectX in Control Panel indicates that I still have DirectX 8.2 installed. Judging from the speed of the DX 8.1b "installation", my guess is that the DX installation routine reads that I have a "newer" version installed and does not install over it. So, what version of Direct X does your system indicate you have after installing TIR?

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> I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP > home. > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd by > running dxsetup.exe? > -- > Joe M. > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > systems. > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > > get TIR to run. > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to > > the routine to install the actual game. > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > install?" > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a patch > > that addreses this? > > Thanks! > > Bert

Probably should mention my system specs...... Athlon 1700XP 512 Megs RAM Radeon 8500LE/Omega drivers Win 98SE Any help would be appreciated. "Joe M." wrote:

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> I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP > home. > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd by > running dxsetup.exe? > > -- > Joe M. > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > systems. > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > > get TIR to run. > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to > > the routine to install the actual game. > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > install?" > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a patch > > that addreses this? > > > > Thanks! > > Bert > > > >

Probably should mention my system specs...... Athlon 1700XP 512 Megs RAM Radeon 8500LE/Omega drivers Win 98SE Any help would be appreciated.

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> I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP > home. > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd by > running dxsetup.exe? > -- > Joe M. > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > systems. > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > > get TIR to run. > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to > > the routine to install the actual game. > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > install?" > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a patch > > that addreses this? > > Thanks! > > Bert

I'm looking at DX Diagnostic Tool now and it confirms that I have DX 8.2 (4.08.02.0134). I didn't expect the DX setup to change your DX to 8.1 since you cannot go back with DX, I just thought it might fool the exe for TIR into thinking it was installed (shot in the dark but worth trying). I haven't played a game yet that doesn't recognize a LATER version of DX (I'm talking since DX5). I'm really thinking this might be OS related since that's our primary difference (aside from video card which isn't the issue if it's working under DX8.2 in other games). My specs: AMD 1600+ 512 MB RAM GF4 Ti 4400 (40.72 Cert. drivers) I wish I could help but I just don't have any ideas. I'm sure they'll patch it but that's no consolation for you. All I can say is that it's worth the wait since it's a fun game. -- Joe M. "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Joe, > > I tried your suggestion -- same results. In fact, clicking on DirectX in > Control Panel indicates that I still have DirectX 8.2 installed. Judging from > the speed of the DX 8.1b "installation", my guess is that the DX installation > routine reads that I have a "newer" version installed and does not install over > it. > > So, what version of Direct X does your system indicate you have after > installing TIR? > > > > "Joe M." wrote: > > > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure > > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP > > home. > > > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd by > > running dxsetup.exe? > > > > -- > > Joe M. > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > > systems. > > > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > > > get TIR to run. > > > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to > > > the routine to install the actual game. > > > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > > install?" > > > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how > > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a patch > > > that addreses this? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Bert > > > > > > >

Joe, It's almost impossible to uninstall *any* ver. of DirectX. I once made the mistake of installing an early beta of 8.1 and when it screwed up my system, I tried everything from 3rd-party uninstallers to hand-editing the Registry. No luck. My system was hosed until the public release of 8.1 several months later. It's unusual that any s/w won't run on a *later* ver. of DX, but it sounds like TIR is the exception. Too bad; I wanted to try it. Wish I had known, too, abt. the surreptitious install of 8.2 w. CFS3. Too late now.... Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybody else's. --Steve "Joe M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP > home. > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cdby

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> running dxsetup.exe? > > -- > Joe M. > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > systems. > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > > get TIR to run. > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed to > > the routine to install the actual game. > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > install?" > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, how > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a patch > > that addreses this? > > > > Thanks! > > Bert > > > > > >

Come to think, I just got Rallisport Challenge. I wonder of the DX on its CD is also 8.2. Anybody know? "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FfgB9.126103$[email hidden]... > Joe, > > It's almost impossible to uninstall *any* ver. of DirectX. I once madethe > mistake of installing an early beta of 8.1 and when it screwed up mysystem, > I tried everything from 3rd-party uninstallers to hand-editing theRegistry. > No luck. My system was hosed until the public release of 8.1 severalmonths > later. > > It's unusual that any s/w won't run on a *later* ver. of DX, but it sounds > like TIR is the exception. Too bad; I wanted to try it. Wish I hadknown,

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> too, abt. the surreptitious install of 8.2 w. CFS3. Too late now.... > > Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybody else's. > > --Steve > > "Joe M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure > > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP > > home. > > > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd > by > > running dxsetup.exe? > > > > -- > > Joe M. > > > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > > systems. > > > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > > > get TIR to run. > > > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed

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> > > the routine to install the actual game. > > > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > > install?" > > > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system,

how > > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there apatch

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> > > that addreses this? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > >

Not sure about that, but it's easy enough to check. Go to Control Panel, Double-click on Direct X. Steve Smith wrote:

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> Come to think, I just got Rallisport Challenge. I wonder of the DX on its > CD is also 8.2. Anybody know? > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FfgB9.126103$[email hidden]... > > Joe, > > > > It's almost impossible to uninstall *any* ver. of DirectX. I once made > the > > mistake of installing an early beta of 8.1 and when it screwed up my > system, > > I tried everything from 3rd-party uninstallers to hand-editing the > Registry. > > No luck. My system was hosed until the public release of 8.1 several > months > > later. > > > > It's unusual that any s/w won't run on a *later* ver. of DX, but it sounds > > like TIR is the exception. Too bad; I wanted to try it. Wish I had > known, > > too, abt. the surreptitious install of 8.2 w. CFS3. Too late now.... > > > > Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybody else's. > > > > --Steve > > > > "Joe M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure > > > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP > > > home. > > > > > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd > > by > > > running dxsetup.exe? > > > > > > -- > > > Joe M. > > > > > > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > > > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > > > systems. > > > > > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > > > > get TIR to run. > > > > > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > > > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > > > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed > to > > > > the routine to install the actual game. > > > > > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > > > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > > > install?" > > > > > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, > how > > > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a > patch > > > > that addreses this? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Not sure about that, but it's easy enough to check. Go to Control Panel, Double-click on Direct X.

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> Come to think, I just got Rallisport Challenge. I wonder of the DX on its > CD is also 8.2. Anybody know? > > Joe, > > It's almost impossible to uninstall *any* ver. of DirectX. I once made > the > > mistake of installing an early beta of 8.1 and when it screwed up my > system, > > I tried everything from 3rd-party uninstallers to hand-editing the > Registry. > > No luck. My system was hosed until the public release of 8.1 several > months > > later. > > It's unusual that any s/w won't run on a *later* ver. of DX, but it sounds > > like TIR is the exception. Too bad; I wanted to try it. Wish I had > known, > > too, abt. the surreptitious install of 8.2 w. CFS3. Too late now.... > > Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybody else's. > > --Steve > > > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not sure > > > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running WinXP > > > home. > > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR cd > > by > > > running dxsetup.exe? > > > -- > > > Joe M. > > > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded that > > > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > > > systems. > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I cannot > > > > get TIR to run. > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install DX > > > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to installing > > > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed > to > > > > the routine to install the actual game. > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run the > > > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > > > install?" > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, > how > > > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a > patch > > > > that addreses this? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bert

The CD has 8.1b (4.8.1.881 in dxdiag). You can revert to the original version of DirectX by re-installing Windows over the top (98 and ME I think - not sure about XP). Andi. "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:whgB9.126104$[email hidden]...

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> Come to think, I just got Rallisport Challenge. I wonder of the DX on its > CD is also 8.2. Anybody know? > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FfgB9.126103$[email hidden]... > > Joe, > > > > It's almost impossible to uninstall *any* ver. of DirectX. I once made > the > > mistake of installing an early beta of 8.1 and when it screwed up my > system, > > I tried everything from 3rd-party uninstallers to hand-editing the > Registry. > > No luck. My system was hosed until the public release of 8.1 several > months > > later. > > > > It's unusual that any s/w won't run on a *later* ver. of DX, but it

sounds > > like TIR is the exception. Too bad; I wanted to try it. Wish I had > known, > > too, abt. the surreptitious install of 8.2 w. CFS3. Too late now.... > > > > Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybodyelse's. > > > > --Steve > > > > "Joe M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Notsure > > > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm runningWinXP > > > home. > > > > > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIRcd

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> > by > > > running dxsetup.exe? > > > > > > -- > > > Joe M. > > > > > > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded

that > > > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > > > systems. > > > > > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and Icannot > > > > get TIR to run. > > > > > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to installDX > > > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES toinstalling

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> > > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed > to > > > > the routine to install the actual game. > > > > > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run

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> > > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > > > install?" > > > > > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, > how > > > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a > patch > > > > that addreses this? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I'm not sure if I want to resort to such a drastic measure for just one game. What else would have to be re-installed after re-installing Windows? And besides, I then wouldn't be able to run MS CFS3, which requires 8.2. Thanks for the idea. Bert Andi wrote:

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> The CD has 8.1b (4.8.1.881 in dxdiag). > > You can revert to the original version of DirectX by re-installing Windows > over the top (98 and ME I think - not sure about XP). > > Andi. > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:whgB9.126104$[email hidden]... > > Come to think, I just got Rallisport Challenge. I wonder of the DX on its > > CD is also 8.2. Anybody know? > > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:FfgB9.126103$[email hidden]... > > > Joe, > > > > > > It's almost impossible to uninstall *any* ver. of DirectX. I once made > > the > > > mistake of installing an early beta of 8.1 and when it screwed up my > > system, > > > I tried everything from 3rd-party uninstallers to hand-editing the > > Registry. > > > No luck. My system was hosed until the public release of 8.1 several > > months > > > later. > > > > > > It's unusual that any s/w won't run on a *later* ver. of DX, but it > sounds > > > like TIR is the exception. Too bad; I wanted to try it. Wish I had > > known, > > > too, abt. the surreptitious install of 8.2 w. CFS3. Too late now.... > > > > > > Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybody > else's. > > > > > > --Steve > > > > > > "Joe M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not > sure > > > > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running > WinXP > > > > home. > > > > > > > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR > cd > > > by > > > > running dxsetup.exe? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Joe M. > > > > > > > > > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > > > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded > that > > > > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > > > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > > > > systems. > > > > > > > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > > > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I > cannot > > > > > get TIR to run. > > > > > > > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install > DX > > > > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > > > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > > > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to > installing > > > > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed > > to > > > > > the routine to install the actual game. > > > > > > > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > > > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > > > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run > the > > > > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > > > > install?" > > > > > > > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, > > how > > > > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a > > patch > > > > > that addreses this? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I'm not sure if I want to resort to such a drastic measure for just one game. What else would have to be re-installed after re-installing Windows? And besides, I then wouldn't be able to run MS CFS3, which requires 8.2. Thanks for the idea. Bert

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> The CD has 8.1b (4.8.1.881 in dxdiag). > You can revert to the original version of DirectX by re-installing Windows > over the top (98 and ME I think - not sure about XP). > Andi. > > Come to think, I just got Rallisport Challenge. I wonder of the DX on its > > CD is also 8.2. Anybody know? > > > Joe, > > > It's almost impossible to uninstall *any* ver. of DirectX. I once made > > the > > > mistake of installing an early beta of 8.1 and when it screwed up my > > system, > > > I tried everything from 3rd-party uninstallers to hand-editing the > > Registry. > > > No luck. My system was hosed until the public release of 8.1 several > > months > > > later. > > > It's unusual that any s/w won't run on a *later* ver. of DX, but it > sounds > > > like TIR is the exception. Too bad; I wanted to try it. Wish I had > > known, > > > too, abt. the surreptitious install of 8.2 w. CFS3. Too late now.... > > > Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybody > else's. > > > --Steve > > > > I have DX8.2 (via CFS3) and I simply installed TIR and ran it. Not > sure > > > > what the problem is for you, perhaps is OS specific? I'm running > WinXP > > > > home. > > > > Since installing the game, have you tried installing DX8 from the TIR > cd > > > by > > > > running dxsetup.exe? > > > > -- > > > > Joe M. > > > > > Someone in a previous thread mentioned that Total Immersion racing > > > > > (TIR) requires DX8.1b and _only_ 8.1b to run. Others responded > that > > > > > they've installed MS Combat Flight Sim 3 on their computers (which > > > > > surruptitiously installs DX 8.2), and TIR still runs fine on their > > > > > systems. > > > > > Well, based on this, I went out and bought TIR. I also have CFS3 > > > > > installed on my system (along with, presumably, DX 8.2), and I > cannot > > > > > get TIR to run. > > > > > When installing, I get the message asking whether I want to install > DX > > > > > 8.1b. If I say NO, the installation routine ends. So, I said YES. > > > > > (Luckily, I have GoBack on my system, so I can live a little > > > > > dangerously...) It still won't install. When I say YES to > installing > > > > > 8.1b, it says that it's successfully installed, but does not proceed > > to > > > > > the routine to install the actual game. > > > > > However, I found that in the "is" subdirectory on the CD, there's > > > > > another setup.exe file which installs the game. So, I run it. Now, > > > > > although the game is installed in my hard drive, when I try to run > the > > > > > game, I get a message that "DX 8.1b is required -- Do I want to > > > > > install?" > > > > > So, for those of you who also have CFS3 (or DX 8.2) on your system, > > how > > > > > exactly did you get TIR installed, and get it to run? Is there a > > patch > > > > > that addreses this? > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Bert

DXBuster didn't work for moi. "Dastardly Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 14:35:52 GMT, BRH <"bertrh<no-spam>"@attbi.com> > wrote: > > >I'm not sure if I want to resort to such a drastic measure for just onegame.

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> >What else would have to be re-installed after re-installing Windows? > > You would have to install all the windows updates again. > > >And besides, I then wouldn't be able to run MS CFS3, which requires 8.2. > > Directx 8.2 just updates directplay which is just for online play so I > think it would still run with 8.1b. Another option to try is to look > for a little prog called "directx buster" which is supposed to be able > to unsinstall dirctectx and allow you to go back to an older version.

Always backwardly compatible...until now, apparently. Shame abt. TIR. I wonder what else might be affected? "Dastardly Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 00:25:09 GMT, "Steve Smith" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >Nobody ever accused MS of playing by the rules...theirs or anybodyelse's.

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> > > > Yea, I remember when Directx3 came out and when installing the game > Close Combat the MS Directx install would overwrite my Diamond Virge > drivers with some shitty MS ones. That really pissed me off. But this > problem is a Razorworks/Empire fault as it shouldn't matter if you > have a newer version of Directx for any game as Directx is always > backwards compatible.

This uninstaller worked for me, got rid of 8.2, installed 8.1b and got TIR working. http://www.cybertechhelp.com/html/downloads/download.php/id/6 On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 15:53:40 GMT, Steve Smith <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>DXBuster didn't work for moi. > >"Dastardly Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 14:35:52 GMT, BRH <"bertrh<no-spam>"@attbi.com> >> wrote: >> >> >I'm not sure if I want to resort to such a drastic measure for just one >game. >> >What else would have to be re-installed after re-installing Windows? >> >> You would have to install all the windows updates again. >> >> >And besides, I then wouldn't be able to run MS CFS3, which requires 8.2. >> >> Directx 8.2 just updates directplay which is just for online play so I >> think it would still run with 8.1b. Another option to try is to look >> for a little prog called "directx buster" which is supposed to be able >> to unsinstall dirctectx and allow you to go back to an older version. > >

Thx, Pasi! I need something like this. Hope it gets the job done! "Pasi Rahikainen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > This uninstaller worked for me, got rid of 8.2, installed 8.1b and > got TIR working. > > http://www.cybertechhelp.com/html/downloads/download.php/id/6 > > > On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 15:53:40 GMT, Steve Smith <[email hidden]>

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> >DXBuster didn't work for moi. > > > >"Dastardly Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 14:35:52 GMT, BRH <"bertrh<no-spam>"@attbi.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >I'm not sure if I want to resort to such a drastic measure for just

one > >game. > >> >What else would have to be re-installed after re-installing Windows? > >> > >> You would have to install all the windows updates again. > >> > >> >And besides, I then wouldn't be able to run MS CFS3, which requires8.2.

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> >> > >> Directx 8.2 just updates directplay which is just for online play so I > >> think it would still run with 8.1b. Another option to try is to look > >> for a little prog called "directx buster" which is supposed to be able > >> to unsinstall dirctectx and allow you to go back to an older version. > > > >