N2002-What's wrong with me?!? I S*CK !

Hi all, I'm fond of racing simulators.. I'm pretty good at GPL & F12002 I bought Nascar 2002 aswell but I only like the road courses, so I bought the convertor yesterday and took off... At Sears I can only do occasional 1:24's At the Osterreicring I can do only 1:52's At my favorite GPL circuit Zandvoort I could only do 1:32's What is wrong with me ?!? I always use the fast (default)-setups but even after a whole day of racing N2002 my times don't get any better... Do I have to look for another way to spend my time ? Am I not talented ? Do I need to download some freeware tetris-games ?

"Trick Dacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZvzB9.5069$[email hidden]...

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> Hi all, > > I'm fond of racing simulators.. > I'm pretty good at GPL & F12002 > > I bought Nascar 2002 aswell but I only like the road courses, so I bought > the convertor yesterday and took off... > > At Sears I can only do occasional 1:24's > At the Osterreicring I can do only 1:52's > At my favorite GPL circuit Zandvoort I could only do 1:32's > > What is wrong with me ?!? > > I always use the fast (default)-setups but even after a whole day of

racing > N2002 my times don't get any better... > > Do I have to look for another way to spend my time ? > Am I not talented ? > Do I need to download some freeware tetris-games ?Hmmm, where to start.......stock cars weigh almost three times as much as an F-1 car, the driving style needed to get these things around the track is more "keep the momentum you've got" and "Keep it on the track" than "point and shoot", which seems to be how GP cars are driven. I think with a few more days (and laps) of driving, you'll come to appreciate the driving model of N2002. As far as the converted tracks, I am not particularly fast at those places yet, so I can't offer much advice, but if you wish to try the ovals (and you should.......they're stock cars) I find Bob Stanley's setups closest to my liking, I tweak them slightly to fit my driving "style".....ya, that's it, my style. Get them here http://www.sportplanet.com/team-lightspeed/ click on the setup exchange button, and by all means, if you enjoyed GPL style online racing, you should definitely try N2002 online.....after you've practiced a bit. Ed

I find the fast setups have way too much understeer. Try softening the front springs (a lot). Take a look at your replays with the helicopter. Are you using _all_ the track? Trail braking is a must. Also, you can get on the gas a lot harder and sooner than in a car with a better power/weight ratio.

Thanx for the info Ed ! I will try the setups you suggested. As for the ovals : I've tried them but I'm not quite fond of them, mainly because I'm not good at it (except for the superspeedways - which are pretty easy to drive & even win (offline, that is <G>)) I will practice the roads like crazy... and maybe one day... I'll get better <G> Thanx Ed... Btw : what's your PB at Sears & at Wats atm ? Greetz, Trick Ed White <[email hidden]> schreef in berichtnieuws j9AB9.4790$[email hidden]...

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> > "Trick Dacy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZvzB9.5069$[email hidden]... > > Hi all, > > > > I'm fond of racing simulators.. > > I'm pretty good at GPL & F12002 > > > > I bought Nascar 2002 aswell but I only like the road courses, so I

bought

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> > the convertor yesterday and took off... > > > > At Sears I can only do occasional 1:24's > > At the Osterreicring I can do only 1:52's > > At my favorite GPL circuit Zandvoort I could only do 1:32's > > > > What is wrong with me ?!? > > > > I always use the fast (default)-setups but even after a whole day of > racing > > N2002 my times don't get any better... > > > > Do I have to look for another way to spend my time ? > > Am I not talented ? > > Do I need to download some freeware tetris-games ? > Hmmm, where to start.......stock cars weigh almost three times as much as

an > F-1 car, the driving style needed to get these things around the track is > more "keep the momentum you've got" and "Keep it on the track" than "point > and shoot", which seems to be how GP cars are driven. I think with a few > more days (and laps) of driving, you'll come to appreciate the drivingmodel > of N2002. > As far as the converted tracks, I am not particularly fast at those places > yet, so I can't offer much advice, but if you wish to try the ovals (andyou > should.......they're stock cars) I find Bob Stanley's setups closest to my > liking, I tweak them slightly to fit my driving "style".....ya, that's it, > my style. > Get them here http://www.sportplanet.com/team-lightspeed/ click on thesetup > exchange button, and by all means, if you enjoyed GPL style online racing, > you should definitely try N2002 online.....after you've practiced a bit. > Ed > >

Hi Bob ! Softening the springs you say ? I'm gonna try that. By how much approximately ? What works for you ? As for the helicopter view : yes, i'm using all of the track... I learned that in GPL... <G> And i don't have the feeling I can get on the gas sooner... it seems the other way 'round... Thanx for the help, Bob Trick ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email hidden]> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 6:08 AM Subject: Re: N2002-What's wrong with me?!? I S*CK !

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> I find the fast setups have way too much understeer. Try softening > the front springs (a lot). > > Take a look at your replays with the helicopter. Are you using _all_ > the track? > > Trail braking is a must. Also, you can get on the gas a lot harder > and sooner than in a car with a better power/weight ratio.

On Sat, 16 Nov 2002 22:19:37 GMT, "Trick Dacy" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I always use the fast (default)-setups but even after a whole day of racing >N2002 my times don't get any better... The fast setups with the converted tracks aren't very good, and honestly I don't think Dave N spent a greal deal of time working on them - I'm sure cracking the file format, improving the texture quality, modifying the racing surfaces, creating AI, etc was more than enough work for one man. =) Grab the setups and replays by Achim Trensz if you really want a driving guide and good baseline setups for the new roadies. I'm not nearly as quick as he is, but I've knocked 2-4 seconds off at the Glen and Sears just by watching his lines, and there's no way you can drive half the converted tracks with the gearings in the fast setups. http://users.skynet.be/AchimT/start.html Jason

Jason Moyer wrote: > > The fast setups with the converted tracks aren't very good.... If Dave made them himself, there are good reasons for that :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:19:48 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: >If Dave made them himself, there are good reasons for that :-) =) Honestly it doesn't seem like he really did anything but throw a few setups from another track into each directory or something. Most of the setups with the converted tracks ride the rev limiter half the way around the track. Jason

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> > On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:19:48 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >If Dave made them himself, there are good reasons for that :-) > > =) Honestly it doesn't seem like he really did anything but throw a > few setups from another track into each directory or something. Most > of the setups with the converted tracks ride the rev limiter half the > way around the track.

Could well be, to the best of my knowledge David doesn't even race N2002 or N4, he's probably just cruising around the tracks looking for bug in the gfx :-) So we do as we always do in cases like this, blame the beta testors Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

>Softening the springs you say ? I'm gonna try that. By how much >approximately ? What works for you ? >As for the helicopter view : yes, i'm using all of the track... >I learned that in GPL... <G> > 200-500lbs on the front. Depends on the track. bob

I soften until they bottom out, then adjust other stuff to try to get more room to soften them even more :) Once I exceed the envelope, I back it off one notch. If I then hear any scrape whatsoever I back off one more notch. -Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> >Softening the springs you say ? I'm gonna try that. By how much > >approximately ? What works for you ? > >As for the helicopter view : yes, i'm using all of the track... > >I learned that in GPL... <G> > > > 200-500lbs on the front. Depends on the track. > > bob