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Opinions: vid card (NR2k3/TFE)

14 posts by 6 people · 20 Nov 2002 00:55 UTC - 21 Nov 2002 18:10 UTC

TonyFan 20 Nov 2002 00:55 UTC#89437
Hey, Well, it's about time for a new video card, and I'm looking for opinions on what we should get. (or possibly wait for) So far I've seen a few different brands of the GF4 TI 4600 128mb card.. It looks like the Leadtek model has dual fans.. The Abit model only appeared to have 1.. Is this correct, and for that reason would the Leadtek be the better buy, IYO?? Besides the 2 fans, what are the differences in the TI4200, 4400, and 4600 cards? And are they worth the price difference? (Also notice some of the 4200's now come with AGP 8x.. Is that going to make the card perform better than a 4400 or 4600 4x agp card) Sorry for the expended questions, but figured a vid card thread was in order for the upcoming holidays and release of NRTFE!!
Just buy an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro or AIW. It's hands down the best card around. "TonyFan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Hey, > Well, it's about time for a new video card, and I'm looking for > opinions on what we should get. (or possibly wait for) So far I've > seen a few different brands of the GF4 TI 4600 128mb card.. It looks > like the Leadtek model has dual fans.. The Abit model only appeared to > have 1.. Is this correct, and for that reason would the Leadtek be the > better buy, IYO?? Besides the 2 fans, what are the differences in the > TI4200, 4400, and 4600 cards? And are they worth the price > difference? (Also notice some of the 4200's now come with AGP 8x.. Is > that going to make the card perform better than a 4400 or 4600 4x agp > card) Sorry for the expended questions, but figured a vid card thread > was in order for the upcoming holidays and release of NRTFE!!
I've got a Leadtek Ti4600 and it was a big mistake to buy it. It's about 15-20% faster than a GF3 Ti500 which is pathetic in the grand scheme of things. I bought it about 6 months ago and now those two little fans have developed an annoying buzzing sound kind of like two very loud mosquitos. nVidia have realised that a 15% improvement isn't going to cut it for their next chip and it looks like it will be at least twice as fast as a Ti4600. From all reports, the Ati 9700 is at least 50% faster than a Ti4600. I'd want to see a 9700 in action before I'd buy one though as I'm not convinced that Ati can produce drivers that are as trouble free as nVidias. Also the VIVO feature on the Leadteks is worse than you could possibly imagine. My ASUS TNT2 I bought 4 years ago has 10 times better capture quality.
Quoted text (11 lines)> Well, it's about time for a new video card, and I'm looking for > opinions on what we should get. (or possibly wait for) So far I've > seen a few different brands of the GF4 TI 4600 128mb card.. It looks > like the Leadtek model has dual fans.. The Abit model only appeared to > have 1.. Is this correct, and for that reason would the Leadtek be the > better buy, IYO?? Besides the 2 fans, what are the differences in the > TI4200, 4400, and 4600 cards? And are they worth the price > difference? (Also notice some of the 4200's now come with AGP 8x.. Is > that going to make the card perform better than a 4400 or 4600 4x agp > card) Sorry for the expended questions, but figured a vid card thread > was in order for the upcoming holidays and release of NRTFE!!
To answer your other question, AGP 8x is a complete con. You'll notice that it's only the cheapo nVidia cards that have it. The big PC companies like HP, Dell etc will use these cards so that they can put "AGP 8x" stickers on their cruddy PCs and uninformed people will think, "Wow, they must be twice as fast!" There is no difference in performance. I would recommend a Ti4200 (4x or 8x - doesn't matter) or an Ati 9700 if your budget will stretch that far.
What processor are you using? "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:areq8p$hs3sp$[email hidden]... > I've got a Leadtek Ti4600 and it was a big mistake to buy it. It's about > 15-20% faster than a GF3 Ti500 which is pathetic in the grand scheme of > things. I bought it about 6 months ago and now those two little fans have > developed an annoying buzzing sound kind of like two very loud mosquitos. > > nVidia have realised that a 15% improvement isn't going to cut it fortheir > next chip and it looks like it will be at least twice as fast as a Ti4600. > From all reports, the Ati 9700 is at least 50% faster than a Ti4600. I'd > want to see a 9700 in action before I'd buy one though as I'm notconvinced
Quoted text (7 lines)> that Ati can produce drivers that are as trouble free as nVidias. > > Also the VIVO feature on the Leadteks is worse than you could possibly > imagine. My ASUS TNT2 I bought 4 years ago has 10 times better capture > quality. > >
"TonyFan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Hey, > Well, it's about time for a new video card, and I'm looking for > opinions on what we should get. (or possibly wait for) So far I've > seen a few different brands of the GF4 TI 4600 128mb card.. It looks > like the Leadtek model has dual fans.. The Abit model only appeared to > have 1.. Is this correct, and for that reason would the Leadtek be the > better buy, IYO?? Besides the 2 fans, what are the differences in the > TI4200, 4400, and 4600 cards? And are they worth the price > difference? (Also notice some of the 4200's now come with AGP 8x.. Is > that going to make the card perform better than a 4400 or 4600 4x agp > card) Sorry for the expended questions, but figured a vid card thread > was in order for the upcoming holidays and release of NRTFE!!
Judging on the past efforts of Papyrus, a new vid card will allow certain features..but if you are looking for high framerates...you'd better have a killer CPU. In almost any upgrade situation, $$ spent on a CPU will improve fps more dramatically than spending the same amount on a new video card. dave henrie
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:02:33 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Judging on the past efforts of Papyrus, a new vid card will allow >certain features..but if you are looking for high framerates...you'd better >have a killer CPU. In almost any upgrade situation, $$ spent on a CPU will >improve fps more dramatically than spending the same amount on a new video >card. >dave henrie Dave, See my system specs in reply above.. I'm sure Im in need of a Vid card upgrade of some kind, but you think maybe a budget card and a processor would be my best bet? Thanks!
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:54:53 GMT, "TDRacin�" <[email hidden]> wrote: >What processor are you using? My basic system: Epox 8KHA+ Athlon XP1700+ @ 1.47GHz 512MB cas2.5 sdram GF2GTSPro64mb
TonyFan 20 Nov 2002 18:34 UTC#530229
My basic system: Epox 8KHA+ 512MB cas2.5 sdram GF2GTSPro64mb
TonyFan, You might let us know how much you're willing to spend. Dave's right about CPU power. A 2.4G CPU or better with some fast DDR memory (along with a new motherboard, I guess) would be nice, but you really do need a new video card, even on your current computer. If you aren't in a big hurry and want to spend some money, wait until the new NV30 is released (Feb, I think) and read some reviews. It could be 25 to 40% faster than ATI's new 9700. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "TonyFan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:02:33 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > Judging on the past efforts of Papyrus, a new vid card will allow > >certain features..but if you are looking for high framerates...you'd better > >have a killer CPU. In almost any upgrade situation, $$ spent on a CPU will > >improve fps more dramatically than spending the same amount on a new video > >card. > >dave henrie > > Dave, > See my system specs in reply above.. I'm sure Im in need of a Vid > card upgrade of some kind, but you think maybe a budget card and a > processor would be my best bet? Thanks!
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:42:31 -0500, "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote: >TonyFan, >You might let us know how much you're willing to spend. GTX, Well, unfortunately I won't be able to wait on the NV30.. Even if I could I don't think I'd have the money for it.. That'll probably be a $400+ card wouldn't you think? What do you think my best option would be with my current system? I can probably get either a GF4 TI4600, or a Radeon 9500 Pro (not the 9700 pro).. Or possibly a lower end Vid Card with a XP2000+ ?? Thanks for the replies! Current box; APox 8KHA+ XP1700 1.4 GHz Geforce2 GTS Pro <---definitely has to go before NRTFE
Yes, I think the NV30s will be released in 2 versions. One for about $400 and one for about $500. A lot of money. > .. Or possibly a lower end Vid > Card with a XP2000+ ?? Now that's a pretty good idea. If you plan on keeping the computer for a while without further updates, the faster cpu and a Ti 4400 might just be the way to go. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com
>Now that's a pretty good idea. If you plan on keeping the computer for a >while without further updates, the faster cpu and a Ti 4400 might just be >the way to go. Thanks GTX!!

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