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Running GPL in XP ?

30 posts by 13 people · 21 Nov 2002 19:30 UTC - 22 Nov 2002 20:56 UTC

Getting GPL running under Windows XP

A new GPL owner whose game closed on launch fixed it by patching to 1.2 and adding the CPU speed fix and D3D patch. The folder-indexing workaround was also discussed. He was told keyboard driving is impractical and pointed to graphics updates such as GPLEA carsets and track databases after being surprised by the stock visuals.

tech supportmods/tracks/carsGrand Prix Legends

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Dunk 21 Nov 2002 19:30 UTC#89025
I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res like the game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the desktop. Any suggestions guys ? Thx =========================== System Spec (in case it matters) Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb Windows XP Pro - SP2 ===========================
Dunk 21 Nov 2002 19:38 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#89027
I just saw the post about getting the 1.2 patch etc etc. Will try those now. "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full | install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res likethe
Quoted text (14 lines)| game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the desktop. | | Any suggestions guys ? | | Thx | | =========================== | System Spec (in case it matters) | Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid | Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb | Windows XP Pro - SP2 | =========================== | |
GBB 21 Nov 2002 19:41 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#89028
Right click on your GPL folder > Properties > Advanced > check "For fast searching allow indexing service to index this folder" "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res likethe
Quoted text (14 lines)> game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the desktop. > > Any suggestions guys ? > > Thx > > =========================== > System Spec (in case it matters) > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb > Windows XP Pro - SP2 > =========================== > >
Dan Leach 21 Nov 2002 19:51 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#89030
Also go here http://www.papy.com and get the cpu fix, the disco patch and the d3d patch. then u can run in d3d dan "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res likethe
Quoted text (14 lines)> game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the desktop. > > Any suggestions guys ? > > Thx > > =========================== > System Spec (in case it matters) > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb > Windows XP Pro - SP2 > =========================== > >
Dunk 21 Nov 2002 19:54 UTC↳ reply to GBB#89032
really ? Why's that necessary ? Anyhow, it's all working now that I've patched it to Ver 1.2 and applied the CPU Speed fix and the D3D patch. Seems like I can't play it with the keyboard though. Is that right or have I missed something obvious ? I haven't got a Joystick or any other analog device here. Can't GPL be played with the keyboad only ? Thanks "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:arjcsi$eoq$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)| Right click on your GPL folder > Properties > Advanced > check "For fast | searching allow indexing service to index this folder" | | | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:[email hidden]... | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res like | the | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the
desktop.
Quoted text (15 lines)| > | > Any suggestions guys ? | > | > Thx | > | > =========================== | > System Spec (in case it matters) | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 | > =========================== | > | > | |
Dunk 21 Nov 2002 19:55 UTC↳ reply to Dan Leach#89033
Yep done that, thanks Dan. Any idea about my keyboard question (see other post) "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:arjdfq$ip5fo$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)| Also go here http://www.papy.com and get the cpu fix, the disco patch and | the d3d patch. | then u can run in d3d | dan | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:[email hidden]... | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res like | the | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the
desktop.
Quoted text (15 lines)| > | > Any suggestions guys ? | > | > Thx | > | > =========================== | > System Spec (in case it matters) | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 | > =========================== | > | > | |
Dan Leach 21 Nov 2002 20:03 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#89034
U can play with keyboard but ive never tried so i cant help... best place to get answers is the vroc chatroom..just ask in there an you'll get help straight away http://www.vroc.net dan "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Yep done that, thanks Dan. > Any idea about my keyboard question (see other post) > > > "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:arjdfq$ip5fo$[email hidden]... > | Also go here http://www.papy.com and get the cpu fix, the disco patch
and
Quoted text (7 lines)> | the d3d patch. > | then u can run in d3d > | dan > | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:[email hidden]... > | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full > | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res
like
Quoted text (20 lines)> | the > | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the > desktop. > | > > | > Any suggestions guys ? > | > > | > Thx > | > > | > =========================== > | > System Spec (in case it matters) > | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid > | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb > | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 > | > =========================== > | > > | > > | > | > >
Dunk 21 Nov 2002 20:10 UTC↳ reply to Dan Leach#89035
OK Thanks "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:arje6f$j9q2f$[email hidden]... | U can play with keyboard but ive never tried so i cant help... best placeto
Quoted text (44 lines)| get answers is the vroc chatroom..just ask in there an you'll get help | straight away | http://www.vroc.net | dan | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:[email hidden]... | > Yep done that, thanks Dan. | > Any idea about my keyboard question (see other post) | > | > | > "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:arjdfq$ip5fo$[email hidden]... | > | Also go here http://www.papy.com and get the cpu fix, the disco patch | and | > | the d3d patch. | > | then u can run in d3d | > | dan | > | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | news:[email hidden]... | > | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full | > | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res | like | > | the | > | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the | > desktop. | > | > | > | > Any suggestions guys ? | > | > | > | > Thx | > | > | > | > =========================== | > | > System Spec (in case it matters) | > | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid | > | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb | > | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 | > | > =========================== | > | > | > | > | > | | > | | > | > | |
Dunk 21 Nov 2002 20:10 UTC#530241
OK Thanks | U can play with keyboard but ive never tried so i cant help... best place to
Quoted text (43 lines)| get answers is the vroc chatroom..just ask in there an you'll get help | straight away | http://www.vroc.net | dan | > Yep done that, thanks Dan. | > Any idea about my keyboard question (see other post) | > | > | > | Also go here http://www.papy.com and get the cpu fix, the disco patch | and | > | the d3d patch. | > | then u can run in d3d | > | dan | > | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full | > | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res | like | > | the | > | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the | > desktop. | > | > | > | > Any suggestions guys ? | > | > | > | > Thx | > | > | > | > =========================== | > | > System Spec (in case it matters) | > | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid | > | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb | > | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 | > | > =========================== | > | > | > | > | > | | > | | > | > | |
"Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss�:arjdfq$ip5fo$[email hidden]... > Also go here http://www.papy.com and get the cpu fix, the disco patch and > the d3d patch. > then u can run in d3d Minus the disco patch, which is not need as the cpu fix contains an improved version of it. -- Mika Takala
Dunk 21 Nov 2002 20:29 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#88889
Hmmm, I never got a single reply. Saw you there though Dan. You were "away" at the time though. "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)| OK | Thanks | | | "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:arje6f$j9q2f$[email hidden]... | | U can play with keyboard but ive never tried so i cant help... best
place
Quoted text (14 lines)| to | | get answers is the vroc chatroom..just ask in there an you'll get help | | straight away | | http://www.vroc.net | | dan | | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | | news:[email hidden]... | | > Yep done that, thanks Dan. | | > Any idea about my keyboard question (see other post) | | > | | > | | > "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | | > news:arjdfq$ip5fo$[email hidden]... | | > | Also go here http://www.papy.com and get the cpu fix, the disco
patch
Quoted text (7 lines)| | and | | > | the d3d patch. | | > | then u can run in d3d | | > | dan | | > | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | | > | news:[email hidden]... | | > | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a
full | | > | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changesres
Quoted text (25 lines)| | like | | > | the | | > | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the | | > desktop. | | > | > | | > | > Any suggestions guys ? | | > | > | | > | > Thx | | > | > | | > | > =========================== | | > | > System Spec (in case it matters) | | > | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid | | > | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb | | > | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 | | > | > =========================== | | > | > | | > | > | | > | | | > | | | > | | > | | | | | |
Fatbob 21 Nov 2002 20:40 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#88891
> Can't GPL be played with the keyboad only ? No sir! IMHO, a wheel is the only way to go, it's a blast (awesome force feedback if you happen to have a FF wheel). Failing that, I go with a gamepad or joystick. Fatbob "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > really ? Why's that necessary ? Anyhow, it's all working now that I've > patched it to Ver 1.2 and applied the CPU Speed fix and the D3D patch. > > Seems like I can't play it with the keyboard though. Is that right or haveI
Quoted text (17 lines)> missed something obvious ? I haven't got a Joystick or any other analog > device here. Can't GPL be played with the keyboad only ? > > Thanks > > > > "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:arjcsi$eoq$[email hidden]... > | Right click on your GPL folder > Properties > Advanced > check "For fast > | searching allow indexing service to index this folder" > | > | > | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:[email hidden]... > | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full > | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res
like
Quoted text (20 lines)> | the > | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the > desktop. > | > > | > Any suggestions guys ? > | > > | > Thx > | > > | > =========================== > | > System Spec (in case it matters) > | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid > | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb > | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 > | > =========================== > | > > | > > | > | > >
Larry 21 Nov 2002 20:53 UTC↳ reply to GBB#88894
I don't have this on and mine works fine. -Larry "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:arjcsi$eoq$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> Right click on your GPL folder > Properties > Advanced > check "For fast > searching allow indexing service to index this folder" > > > "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full > > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res like > the > > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the
desktop.
Quoted text (15 lines)> > > > Any suggestions guys ? > > > > Thx > > > > =========================== > > System Spec (in case it matters) > > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid > > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb > > Windows XP Pro - SP2 > > =========================== > > > > > >
Malc 21 Nov 2002 21:46 UTC↳ reply to Fatbob#88904
"Fatbob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_wbD9.12$[email hidden]... > > Can't GPL be played with the keyboad only ? > > No sir! IMHO, a wheel is the only way to go, it's a blast (awesome force > feedback if you happen to have a FF wheel). Failing that, I go with a > gamepad or joystick. Or to put it another way, yes you can, just assign the keys you want in the setup menu, but gpl isn't really intended for use without analogue controls, so you won't be as fast as you could be. Malc.
Malc 21 Nov 2002 21:52 UTC↳ reply to Larry#88905
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OIbD9.1682$[email hidden]... > I don't have this on and mine works fine. But lots of other people do, and it does no harm to allow indexing on the gpl folder without actually switching the indexing service on. I have one win2k PC where C:\ is NTFS & that's where gpl is installed. I had to enable indexing for gpl to work. Allowing indexing is not the same as enabling it. Malc.
Scott A. 21 Nov 2002 21:57 UTC↳ reply to Larry#88906
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OIbD9.1682$[email hidden]... > I don't have this on and mine works fine. > > -Larry You have it installed on FAT I guess. Scott A.
Quoted text (11 lines)> > "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:arjcsi$eoq$[email hidden]... > > Right click on your GPL folder > Properties > Advanced > check "For fast > > searching allow indexing service to index this folder" > > > > > > "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full > > > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res
like
Quoted text (20 lines)> > the > > > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the > desktop. > > > > > > Any suggestions guys ? > > > > > > Thx > > > > > > =========================== > > > System Spec (in case it matters) > > > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid > > > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb > > > Windows XP Pro - SP2 > > > =========================== > > > > > > > > > > > >
Plowboy 21 Nov 2002 22:03 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#88907
Dunk, The reason nobody is replying, (My guess anyway) to the "keyboard" question is that GPL is so much of a Niche game/simulator with people still running the game that are really hard core simmers. That being said but not diggin at "Us GPL'ers" because I personally am in the same boat. I or WE cannot hardly fathom even daring to encourage you to run GPL with a keyboard. The problem is 2 fold. 1st. you cannot (In Many peoples minds) possibly enjoy the game, nor control the car very well, at least for 99.99998% of the human population, for a long time with even a great, and properly setup wheel. I had a bad pot in a steering wheel that seemed fine in Monster Truck madness, and even Need for speed games, But I nearly threw the NASCAR and GPL cds out the window, until I got a good controller, all the time thinking, "crap how can they possibly go that fast without wrecking or cheating and all"??? ANYWAY, right now you are thinking "BS I can hang"... but please trust me, and everyone who has not responded, that NO! honestly you can't or I should say won't. This isn't a game like Porsche Unleashed, where you can navigate a car like you would Mario brothers with buttons or keys. The car control is so subtle, that the difference between the fast guys and the slower guys like me, is not the speed you get down the straights like on a arcade game, it is actually about turning the car, with it being on the verge of out of control (for lack of better visual description), and getting up to top speed sooner out of the corner. this is nearly impossible with a less than perfectly operating wheel, let alone with a keyboard. Now having said that, the Nascar racing series, you could possibly run decent enough, as it is mainly ovals, and drafting. and so button steering and brakes seldom "costs you" as much, but I would personally guarantee that you will not enjoy much more than Dega or Tona, compared to racing against me, with a wheel at say Homestead or Bristol. 2nd reason, when that game 1st was released we miserably had to "put up with" the Nintendo gamers who warezed or got the game for Xmas (or whatever religion/holiday they might get a gift) and the Nintendo heads as you can guess, had a heyday running the rest of the racers ragged by doing simple things as just slamming into everyone in the corners, all the way to running around the track backwards. Plus it would be Irresponsible of us to say Sure do it like this... So to encourage you to do it, is like the gold medal olympic luge champoin, to say "Sure, you can run this course, sitting on your plastic saucer..." Please don't think I am assuming that you would be a Nintendo ish goof ball, or nothing, my point is much more about how you will short change your ability to enjoy this absolutely fabulous and extremely challenging game!!! If you read reviews at any gaming site anywhere, you would know I am warning you and being truthful, this game is not for the person who expects instant gratification, like people get with set-top systems and a lot of other games on PCs... You are goin got work at this game, and rewards seem to come slowly, but they are sweet! My advice? Get yourself a decent new USB connected wheel (Like Microsoft Sidewinder can be had off of ebay for around 20 bucks, just make dang sure it is USB ONLY for XP & that the Setup CD comes with it!!!! ). Use the disk that comes with it and ingonre XP complaining about the software not being made for XP. more on that later if you get one... with a good wheel, trust me, if you can make it past the 1st two of 3 or 4 hour sessions you will put into running GPL, you will thank me for it, you will love this game! plowboy "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res likethe
Quoted text (14 lines)> game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the desktop. > > Any suggestions guys ? > > Thx > > =========================== > System Spec (in case it matters) > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb > Windows XP Pro - SP2 > =========================== > >
Dunk 21 Nov 2002 22:30 UTC↳ reply to Plowboy#88910
Well thanks for that Plowboy, great post. I did manage to get it set up using the keys thanks to some help in IRC from Dan Leach and his friends. Like you said though it's very difficult to control with the keys. I must admit to being really quite shocked at the poor graphics though. They aren't anywhere near as good as other old games like eg Microprose F1GP (#1). I'm quite disappointed really. It must be a hell of a game, gameplay-wise, for you guys to still be playing a sim that is sooo old looking. I'm prepared to put the time in to learn a good driving sim that I can race online, but I don't think this is the one for me, it just looks so old fashioned. No offence intended to those of you who love GPL. Thanks guys. "Plowboy" <Plowboy'[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | Dunk, | | The reason nobody is replying, (My guess anyway) to the "keyboard"question | is that GPL is so much of a Niche game/simulator with people still running | the game that are really hard core simmers. That being said but notdiggin | at "Us GPL'ers" because I personally am in the same boat. I or WE cannot | hardly fathom even daring to encourage you to run GPL with a keyboard.The
Quoted text (16 lines)| problem is 2 fold. | | 1st. you cannot (In Many peoples minds) possibly enjoy the game, nor | control the car very well, at least for 99.99998% of the human population, | for a long time with even a great, and properly setup wheel. | | I had a bad pot in a steering wheel that seemed fine in Monster Truck | madness, and even Need for speed games, But I nearly threw the NASCAR and | GPL cds out the window, until I got a good controller, all the time | thinking, "crap how can they possibly go that fast without wrecking or | cheating and all"??? | | ANYWAY, right now you are thinking "BS I can hang"... but please trust | me, and everyone who has not responded, that NO! honestly you can't or I | should say won't. This isn't a game like Porsche Unleashed, where you can | navigate a car like you would Mario brothers with buttons or keys. The
car | control is so subtle, that the difference between the fast guys and the | slower guys like me, is not the speed you get down the straights like on a | arcade game, it is actually about turning the car, with it being on the | verge of out of control (for lack of better visual description), andgetting | up to top speed sooner out of the corner. this is nearly impossible witha | less than perfectly operating wheel, let alone with a keyboard. Nowhaving | said that, the Nascar racing series, you could possibly run decent enough, | as it is mainly ovals, and drafting. and so button steering and brakes | seldom "costs you" as much, but I would personally guarantee that you will | not enjoy much more than Dega or Tona, compared to racing against me, witha | wheel at say Homestead or Bristol. | | 2nd reason, when that game 1st was released we miserably had to "put up | with" the Nintendo gamers who warezed or got the game for Xmas (orwhatever | religion/holiday they might get a gift) and the Nintendo heads as you can | guess, had a heyday running the rest of the racers ragged by doing simple | things as just slamming into everyone in the corners, all the way torunning | around the track backwards. Plus it would be Irresponsible of us to say | Sure do it like this... So to encourage you to do it, is like the gold | medal olympic luge champoin, to say "Sure, you can run this course,sitting | on your plastic saucer..." | | Please don't think I am assuming that you would be a Nintendo ish goofball, | or nothing, my point is much more about how you will short change your | ability to enjoy this absolutely fabulous and extremely challenginggame!!! | If you read reviews at any gaming site anywhere, you would know I amwarning | you and being truthful, this game is not for the person who expectsinstant | gratification, like people get with set-top systems and a lot of othergames | on PCs... You are goin got work at this game, and rewards seem to come | slowly, but they are sweet! | | My advice? Get yourself a decent new USB connected wheel (Like Microsoft | Sidewinder can be had off of ebay for around 20 bucks, just make dang sure | it is USB ONLY for XP & that the Setup CD comes with it!!!! ). Use thedisk | that comes with it and ingonre XP complaining about the software not being | made for XP. more on that later if you get one... with a good wheel,trust | me, if you can make it past the 1st two of 3 or 4 hour sessions you willput
Quoted text (9 lines)| into running GPL, you will thank me for it, you will love this game! | | plowboy | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:[email hidden]... | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res like | the | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the
desktop.
Quoted text (15 lines)| > | > Any suggestions guys ? | > | > Thx | > | > =========================== | > System Spec (in case it matters) | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 | > =========================== | > | > | |
"Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > (#1). I'm quite disappointed really. It must be a hell of a game, > gameplay-wise, for you guys to still be playing a sim that is sooo old > looking. You *need* to do some downloading, my son. GPL can be one of the finest looking racers even now. Especially the car models. Start here: http://gplea.racesimcentral.com/ and move on from there... Regards, Mark Reading, UK
Dan Leach 21 Nov 2002 23:41 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#88921
If u dont think gpl looks good then look at this :) http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45975&highlight=g pl+slide+show :) "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well thanks for that Plowboy, great post. I did manage to get it set up > using the keys thanks to some help in IRC from Dan Leach and his friends. > Like you said though it's very difficult to control with the keys. > I must admit to being really quite shocked at the poor graphics though.They > aren't anywhere near as good as other old games like eg Microprose F1GP > (#1). I'm quite disappointed really. It must be a hell of a game, > gameplay-wise, for you guys to still be playing a sim that is sooo old > looking. > I'm prepared to put the time in to learn a good driving sim that I canrace
Quoted text (13 lines)> online, but I don't think this is the one for me, it just looks so old > fashioned. No offence intended to those of you who love GPL. > > Thanks guys. > > > "Plowboy" <Plowboy'[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > | Dunk, > | > | The reason nobody is replying, (My guess anyway) to the "keyboard" > question > | is that GPL is so much of a Niche game/simulator with people still
running > | the game that are really hard core simmers. That being said but not > diggin > | at "Us GPL'ers" because I personally am in the same boat. I or WEcannot > | hardly fathom even daring to encourage you to run GPL with a keyboard. > The > | problem is 2 fold. > | > | 1st. you cannot (In Many peoples minds) possibly enjoy the game, nor > | control the car very well, at least for 99.99998% of the humanpopulation, > | for a long time with even a great, and properly setup wheel. > | > | I had a bad pot in a steering wheel that seemed fine in Monster Truck > | madness, and even Need for speed games, But I nearly threw the NASCARand > | GPL cds out the window, until I got a good controller, all the time > | thinking, "crap how can they possibly go that fast without wrecking or > | cheating and all"??? > | > | ANYWAY, right now you are thinking "BS I can hang"... but pleasetrust > | me, and everyone who has not responded, that NO! honestly you can't or I > | should say won't. This isn't a game like Porsche Unleashed, where youcan > | navigate a car like you would Mario brothers with buttons or keys. The > car > | control is so subtle, that the difference between the fast guys and the > | slower guys like me, is not the speed you get down the straights like ona > | arcade game, it is actually about turning the car, with it being on the > | verge of out of control (for lack of better visual description), and > getting > | up to top speed sooner out of the corner. this is nearly impossiblewith > a > | less than perfectly operating wheel, let alone with a keyboard. Now > having > | said that, the Nascar racing series, you could possibly run decentenough, > | as it is mainly ovals, and drafting. and so button steering and brakes > | seldom "costs you" as much, but I would personally guarantee that youwill > | not enjoy much more than Dega or Tona, compared to racing against me,with
Quoted text (7 lines)> a > | wheel at say Homestead or Bristol. > | > | 2nd reason, when that game 1st was released we miserably had to "put up > | with" the Nintendo gamers who warezed or got the game for Xmas (or > whatever > | religion/holiday they might get a gift) and the Nintendo heads as you
can > | guess, had a heyday running the rest of the racers ragged by doingsimple
Quoted text (23 lines)> | things as just slamming into everyone in the corners, all the way to > running > | around the track backwards. Plus it would be Irresponsible of us to say > | Sure do it like this... So to encourage you to do it, is like the gold > | medal olympic luge champoin, to say "Sure, you can run this course, > sitting > | on your plastic saucer..." > | > | Please don't think I am assuming that you would be a Nintendo ish goof > ball, > | or nothing, my point is much more about how you will short change your > | ability to enjoy this absolutely fabulous and extremely challenging > game!!! > | If you read reviews at any gaming site anywhere, you would know I am > warning > | you and being truthful, this game is not for the person who expects > instant > | gratification, like people get with set-top systems and a lot of other > games > | on PCs... You are goin got work at this game, and rewards seem to come > | slowly, but they are sweet! > | > | My advice? Get yourself a decent new USB connected wheel (Like
Microsoft > | Sidewinder can be had off of ebay for around 20 bucks, just make dangsure > | it is USB ONLY for XP & that the Setup CD comes with it!!!! ). Use the > disk > | that comes with it and ingonre XP complaining about the software notbeing
Quoted text (11 lines)> | made for XP. more on that later if you get one... with a good wheel, > trust > | me, if you can make it past the 1st two of 3 or 4 hour sessions you will > put > | into running GPL, you will thank me for it, you will love this game! > | > | plowboy > | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:[email hidden]... > | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full > | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res
like
Quoted text (20 lines)> | the > | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the > desktop. > | > > | > Any suggestions guys ? > | > > | > Thx > | > > | > =========================== > | > System Spec (in case it matters) > | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid > | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb > | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 > | > =========================== > | > > | > > | > | > >
Dunk 22 Nov 2002 00:41 UTC↳ reply to Dan Leach#88931
Wow, I can't believe that is the same game. Those look like the intro pics from some modern game. I'm very impressed. So, what do I have to do to make GPL look remotely like that for me ? Is there some pack I can DL or is it a matter of DL'ing dozens of third party add-ons ? "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:arjqv8$j2pgi$[email hidden]... | If u dont think gpl looks good then look at this :) |http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45975&highlight=g | pl+slide+show | :) | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:[email hidden]... | > Well thanks for that Plowboy, great post. I did manage to get it set up | > using the keys thanks to some help in IRC from Dan Leach and hisfriends.
Quoted text (28 lines)| > Like you said though it's very difficult to control with the keys. | > I must admit to being really quite shocked at the poor graphics though. | They | > aren't anywhere near as good as other old games like eg Microprose F1GP | > (#1). I'm quite disappointed really. It must be a hell of a game, | > gameplay-wise, for you guys to still be playing a sim that is sooo old | > looking. | > I'm prepared to put the time in to learn a good driving sim that I can | race | > online, but I don't think this is the one for me, it just looks so old | > fashioned. No offence intended to those of you who love GPL. | > | > Thanks guys. | > | > | > "Plowboy" <Plowboy'[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:[email hidden]... | > | Dunk, | > | | > | The reason nobody is replying, (My guess anyway) to the "keyboard" | > question | > | is that GPL is so much of a Niche game/simulator with people still | running | > | the game that are really hard core simmers. That being said but not | > diggin | > | at "Us GPL'ers" because I personally am in the same boat. I or WE | cannot | > | hardly fathom even daring to encourage you to run GPL with a
keyboard.
Quoted text (18 lines)| > The | > | problem is 2 fold. | > | | > | 1st. you cannot (In Many peoples minds) possibly enjoy the game, nor | > | control the car very well, at least for 99.99998% of the human | population, | > | for a long time with even a great, and properly setup wheel. | > | | > | I had a bad pot in a steering wheel that seemed fine in Monster Truck | > | madness, and even Need for speed games, But I nearly threw the NASCAR | and | > | GPL cds out the window, until I got a good controller, all the time | > | thinking, "crap how can they possibly go that fast without wrecking or | > | cheating and all"??? | > | | > | ANYWAY, right now you are thinking "BS I can hang"... but please | trust | > | me, and everyone who has not responded, that NO! honestly you can't or
I | > | should say won't. This isn't a game like Porsche Unleashed, where you | can | > | navigate a car like you would Mario brothers with buttons or keys.The | > car | > | control is so subtle, that the difference between the fast guys andthe | > | slower guys like me, is not the speed you get down the straights likeon | a | > | arcade game, it is actually about turning the car, with it being onthe
Quoted text (10 lines)| > | verge of out of control (for lack of better visual description), and | > getting | > | up to top speed sooner out of the corner. this is nearly impossible | with | > a | > | less than perfectly operating wheel, let alone with a keyboard. Now | > having | > | said that, the Nascar racing series, you could possibly run decent | enough, | > | as it is mainly ovals, and drafting. and so button steering and
brakes
Quoted text (8 lines)| > | seldom "costs you" as much, but I would personally guarantee that you | will | > | not enjoy much more than Dega or Tona, compared to racing against me, | with | > a | > | wheel at say Homestead or Bristol. | > | | > | 2nd reason, when that game 1st was released we miserably had to "put
up
Quoted text (9 lines)| > | with" the Nintendo gamers who warezed or got the game for Xmas (or | > whatever | > | religion/holiday they might get a gift) and the Nintendo heads as you | can | > | guess, had a heyday running the rest of the racers ragged by doing | simple | > | things as just slamming into everyone in the corners, all the way to | > running | > | around the track backwards. Plus it would be Irresponsible of us to
say | > | Sure do it like this... So to encourage you to do it, is like thegold
Quoted text (16 lines)| > | medal olympic luge champoin, to say "Sure, you can run this course, | > sitting | > | on your plastic saucer..." | > | | > | Please don't think I am assuming that you would be a Nintendo ish goof | > ball, | > | or nothing, my point is much more about how you will short change your | > | ability to enjoy this absolutely fabulous and extremely challenging | > game!!! | > | If you read reviews at any gaming site anywhere, you would know I am | > warning | > | you and being truthful, this game is not for the person who expects | > instant | > | gratification, like people get with set-top systems and a lot of other | > games | > | on PCs... You are goin got work at this game, and rewards seem to
come
Quoted text (7 lines)| > | slowly, but they are sweet! | > | | > | My advice? Get yourself a decent new USB connected wheel (Like | Microsoft | > | Sidewinder can be had off of ebay for around 20 bucks, just make dang | sure | > | it is USB ONLY for XP & that the Setup CD comes with it!!!! ). Use
the | > disk | > | that comes with it and ingonre XP complaining about the software not | being | > | made for XP. more on that later if you get one... with a good wheel, | > trust | > | me, if you can make it past the 1st two of 3 or 4 hour sessions youwill
Quoted text (31 lines)| > put | > | into running GPL, you will thank me for it, you will love this game! | > | | > | plowboy | > | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > | news:[email hidden]... | > | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a full | > | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changes res | like | > | the | > | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the | > desktop. | > | > | > | > Any suggestions guys ? | > | > | > | > Thx | > | > | > | > =========================== | > | > System Spec (in case it matters) | > | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid | > | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb | > | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 | > | > =========================== | > | > | > | > | > | | > | | > | > | |
ymenard 22 Nov 2002 01:04 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#88934
>"Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote > Can't GPL be played with the keyboad only ? It can but it shouldn't. That's like having sex with a supermodel yet you can't touch her ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
ymenard 22 Nov 2002 01:07 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#88935
>"Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote > They aren't anywhere near as good as other old games like eg MicroproseF1GP ????????�???
Dan Leach 22 Nov 2002 10:16 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#88880
You can get the updated cars from here http://jfcarsets.cjb.net and here http://www.gplea.org and car and track gfx, from the gplea and here http://www.racesimcentral.com/downloads/gpl/gpl.shtml dan "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> Wow, I can't believe that is the same game. Those look like the intro pics > from some modern game. I'm very impressed. > So, what do I have to do to make GPL look remotely like that for me ? Is > there some pack I can DL or is it a matter of DL'ing dozens of third party > add-ons ? > > "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:arjqv8$j2pgi$[email hidden]... > | If u dont think gpl looks good then look at this :) > | >
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45975&highlight=g > | pl+slide+show > | :) > | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:[email hidden]... > | > Well thanks for that Plowboy, great post. I did manage to get it setup > | > using the keys thanks to some help in IRC from Dan Leach and his > friends. > | > Like you said though it's very difficult to control with the keys. > | > I must admit to being really quite shocked at the poor graphicsthough. > | They > | > aren't anywhere near as good as other old games like eg MicroproseF1GP
Quoted text (29 lines)> | > (#1). I'm quite disappointed really. It must be a hell of a game, > | > gameplay-wise, for you guys to still be playing a sim that is sooo old > | > looking. > | > I'm prepared to put the time in to learn a good driving sim that I can > | race > | > online, but I don't think this is the one for me, it just looks so old > | > fashioned. No offence intended to those of you who love GPL. > | > > | > Thanks guys. > | > > | > > | > "Plowboy" <Plowboy'[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > news:[email hidden]... > | > | Dunk, > | > | > | > | The reason nobody is replying, (My guess anyway) to the "keyboard" > | > question > | > | is that GPL is so much of a Niche game/simulator with people still > | running > | > | the game that are really hard core simmers. That being said but not > | > diggin > | > | at "Us GPL'ers" because I personally am in the same boat. I or WE > | cannot > | > | hardly fathom even daring to encourage you to run GPL with a > keyboard. > | > The > | > | problem is 2 fold. > | > | > | > | 1st. you cannot (In Many peoples minds) possibly enjoy the game,
nor > | > | control the car very well, at least for 99.99998% of the human > | population, > | > | for a long time with even a great, and properly setup wheel. > | > | > | > | I had a bad pot in a steering wheel that seemed fine in MonsterTruck > | > | madness, and even Need for speed games, But I nearly threw theNASCAR > | and > | > | GPL cds out the window, until I got a good controller, all the time > | > | thinking, "crap how can they possibly go that fast without wreckingor > | > | cheating and all"??? > | > | > | > | ANYWAY, right now you are thinking "BS I can hang"... but please > | trust > | > | me, and everyone who has not responded, that NO! honestly you can'tor > I > | > | should say won't. This isn't a game like Porsche Unleashed, whereyou
Quoted text (7 lines)> | can > | > | navigate a car like you would Mario brothers with buttons or keys. > The > | > car > | > | control is so subtle, that the difference between the fast guys and > the > | > | slower guys like me, is not the speed you get down the straights
like
Quoted text (16 lines)> on > | a > | > | arcade game, it is actually about turning the car, with it being on > the > | > | verge of out of control (for lack of better visual description), and > | > getting > | > | up to top speed sooner out of the corner. this is nearly impossible > | with > | > a > | > | less than perfectly operating wheel, let alone with a keyboard. Now > | > having > | > | said that, the Nascar racing series, you could possibly run decent > | enough, > | > | as it is mainly ovals, and drafting. and so button steering and > brakes > | > | seldom "costs you" as much, but I would personally guarantee that
you > | will > | > | not enjoy much more than Dega or Tona, compared to racing againstme,
Quoted text (9 lines)> | with > | > a > | > | wheel at say Homestead or Bristol. > | > | > | > | 2nd reason, when that game 1st was released we miserably had to "put > up > | > | with" the Nintendo gamers who warezed or got the game for Xmas (or > | > whatever > | > | religion/holiday they might get a gift) and the Nintendo heads as
you
Quoted text (14 lines)> | can > | > | guess, had a heyday running the rest of the racers ragged by doing > | simple > | > | things as just slamming into everyone in the corners, all the way to > | > running > | > | around the track backwards. Plus it would be Irresponsible of us to > say > | > | Sure do it like this... So to encourage you to do it, is like the > gold > | > | medal olympic luge champoin, to say "Sure, you can run this course, > | > sitting > | > | on your plastic saucer..." > | > | > | > | Please don't think I am assuming that you would be a Nintendo ish
goof > | > ball, > | > | or nothing, my point is much more about how you will short changeyour
Quoted text (7 lines)> | > | ability to enjoy this absolutely fabulous and extremely challenging > | > game!!! > | > | If you read reviews at any gaming site anywhere, you would know I am > | > warning > | > | you and being truthful, this game is not for the person who expects > | > instant > | > | gratification, like people get with set-top systems and a lot of
other
Quoted text (8 lines)> | > games > | > | on PCs... You are goin got work at this game, and rewards seem to > come > | > | slowly, but they are sweet! > | > | > | > | My advice? Get yourself a decent new USB connected wheel (Like > | Microsoft > | > | Sidewinder can be had off of ebay for around 20 bucks, just make
dang
Quoted text (7 lines)> | sure > | > | it is USB ONLY for XP & that the Setup CD comes with it!!!! ). Use > the > | > disk > | > | that comes with it and ingonre XP complaining about the software not > | being > | > | made for XP. more on that later if you get one... with a good
wheel,
Quoted text (10 lines)> | > trust > | > | me, if you can make it past the 1st two of 3 or 4 hour sessions you > will > | > put > | > | into running GPL, you will thank me for it, you will love this game! > | > | > | > | plowboy > | > | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > | news:[email hidden]... > | > | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a
full > | > | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changesres
Quoted text (25 lines)> | like > | > | the > | > | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the > | > desktop. > | > | > > | > | > Any suggestions guys ? > | > | > > | > | > Thx > | > | > > | > | > =========================== > | > | > System Spec (in case it matters) > | > | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid > | > | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb > | > | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 > | > | > =========================== > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > > | > > | > | > >
Paul Thorp 22 Nov 2002 10:47 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#88881
Dunk, there is a great resource called The GPL Track Database here: http://magnust.d2g.com/ Cheers, Paul T "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> Wow, I can't believe that is the same game. Those look like the intro pics > from some modern game. I'm very impressed. > So, what do I have to do to make GPL look remotely like that for me ? Is > there some pack I can DL or is it a matter of DL'ing dozens of third party > add-ons ? > > "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:arjqv8$j2pgi$[email hidden]... > | If u dont think gpl looks good then look at this :) > | >
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45975&highlight=g > | pl+slide+show > | :) > | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | news:[email hidden]... > | > Well thanks for that Plowboy, great post. I did manage to get it setup > | > using the keys thanks to some help in IRC from Dan Leach and his > friends. > | > Like you said though it's very difficult to control with the keys. > | > I must admit to being really quite shocked at the poor graphicsthough. > | They > | > aren't anywhere near as good as other old games like eg MicroproseF1GP
Quoted text (29 lines)> | > (#1). I'm quite disappointed really. It must be a hell of a game, > | > gameplay-wise, for you guys to still be playing a sim that is sooo old > | > looking. > | > I'm prepared to put the time in to learn a good driving sim that I can > | race > | > online, but I don't think this is the one for me, it just looks so old > | > fashioned. No offence intended to those of you who love GPL. > | > > | > Thanks guys. > | > > | > > | > "Plowboy" <Plowboy'[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > news:[email hidden]... > | > | Dunk, > | > | > | > | The reason nobody is replying, (My guess anyway) to the "keyboard" > | > question > | > | is that GPL is so much of a Niche game/simulator with people still > | running > | > | the game that are really hard core simmers. That being said but not > | > diggin > | > | at "Us GPL'ers" because I personally am in the same boat. I or WE > | cannot > | > | hardly fathom even daring to encourage you to run GPL with a > keyboard. > | > The > | > | problem is 2 fold. > | > | > | > | 1st. you cannot (In Many peoples minds) possibly enjoy the game,
nor > | > | control the car very well, at least for 99.99998% of the human > | population, > | > | for a long time with even a great, and properly setup wheel. > | > | > | > | I had a bad pot in a steering wheel that seemed fine in MonsterTruck > | > | madness, and even Need for speed games, But I nearly threw theNASCAR > | and > | > | GPL cds out the window, until I got a good controller, all the time > | > | thinking, "crap how can they possibly go that fast without wreckingor > | > | cheating and all"??? > | > | > | > | ANYWAY, right now you are thinking "BS I can hang"... but please > | trust > | > | me, and everyone who has not responded, that NO! honestly you can'tor > I > | > | should say won't. This isn't a game like Porsche Unleashed, whereyou
Quoted text (7 lines)> | can > | > | navigate a car like you would Mario brothers with buttons or keys. > The > | > car > | > | control is so subtle, that the difference between the fast guys and > the > | > | slower guys like me, is not the speed you get down the straights
like
Quoted text (16 lines)> on > | a > | > | arcade game, it is actually about turning the car, with it being on > the > | > | verge of out of control (for lack of better visual description), and > | > getting > | > | up to top speed sooner out of the corner. this is nearly impossible > | with > | > a > | > | less than perfectly operating wheel, let alone with a keyboard. Now > | > having > | > | said that, the Nascar racing series, you could possibly run decent > | enough, > | > | as it is mainly ovals, and drafting. and so button steering and > brakes > | > | seldom "costs you" as much, but I would personally guarantee that
you > | will > | > | not enjoy much more than Dega or Tona, compared to racing againstme,
Quoted text (9 lines)> | with > | > a > | > | wheel at say Homestead or Bristol. > | > | > | > | 2nd reason, when that game 1st was released we miserably had to "put > up > | > | with" the Nintendo gamers who warezed or got the game for Xmas (or > | > whatever > | > | religion/holiday they might get a gift) and the Nintendo heads as
you
Quoted text (14 lines)> | can > | > | guess, had a heyday running the rest of the racers ragged by doing > | simple > | > | things as just slamming into everyone in the corners, all the way to > | > running > | > | around the track backwards. Plus it would be Irresponsible of us to > say > | > | Sure do it like this... So to encourage you to do it, is like the > gold > | > | medal olympic luge champoin, to say "Sure, you can run this course, > | > sitting > | > | on your plastic saucer..." > | > | > | > | Please don't think I am assuming that you would be a Nintendo ish
goof > | > ball, > | > | or nothing, my point is much more about how you will short changeyour
Quoted text (7 lines)> | > | ability to enjoy this absolutely fabulous and extremely challenging > | > game!!! > | > | If you read reviews at any gaming site anywhere, you would know I am > | > warning > | > | you and being truthful, this game is not for the person who expects > | > instant > | > | gratification, like people get with set-top systems and a lot of
other
Quoted text (8 lines)> | > games > | > | on PCs... You are goin got work at this game, and rewards seem to > come > | > | slowly, but they are sweet! > | > | > | > | My advice? Get yourself a decent new USB connected wheel (Like > | Microsoft > | > | Sidewinder can be had off of ebay for around 20 bucks, just make
dang
Quoted text (7 lines)> | sure > | > | it is USB ONLY for XP & that the Setup CD comes with it!!!! ). Use > the > | > disk > | > | that comes with it and ingonre XP complaining about the software not > | being > | > | made for XP. more on that later if you get one... with a good
wheel,
Quoted text (10 lines)> | > trust > | > | me, if you can make it past the 1st two of 3 or 4 hour sessions you > will > | > put > | > | into running GPL, you will thank me for it, you will love this game! > | > | > | > | plowboy > | > | "Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > | news:[email hidden]... > | > | > I got Grand Prix Legends today but can't get it to run. I did a
full > | > | > install. When I try to run it the screen goes black and changesres
Quoted text (25 lines)> | like > | > | the > | > | > game is loading but then it just closes and I'm left back at the > | > desktop. > | > | > > | > | > Any suggestions guys ? > | > | > > | > | > Thx > | > | > > | > | > =========================== > | > | > System Spec (in case it matters) > | > | > Athlon XP1500+ on a Abit KG7 Raid > | > | > Gainward GS Ti4200 128mb > | > | > Windows XP Pro - SP2 > | > | > =========================== > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > | > | > | > > | > > | > | > >
magnulus 22 Nov 2002 17:44 UTC↳ reply to Dunk#88712
"Dunk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > Well thanks for that Plowboy, great post. I did manage to get it set up > using the keys thanks to some help in IRC from Dan Leach and his friends. > Like you said though it's very difficult to control with the keys. Get a gamepad that has some of those little joysticks (a Sony dual shock + Radio Shack PSX-PC adapter works good), at the bare minimum, and set the steering in the game to nonlinear and try adjusting the steering ratio in the setups. You may have to use throttle and brake help, though. I have a steering wheel now, but it's perfectly playable with a gamepad. Besides, if you are a casual gamer, a gamepad is good to have for your PC, much better overall choice than a joystick.
Quoted text (9 lines)> I must admit to being really quite shocked at the poor graphics though. They > aren't anywhere near as good as other old games like eg Microprose F1GP > (#1). I'm quite disappointed really. It must be a hell of a game, > gameplay-wise, for you guys to still be playing a sim that is sooo old > looking. > I'm prepared to put the time in to learn a good driving sim that I can race > online, but I don't think this is the one for me, it just looks so old > fashioned. No offence intended to those of you who love GPL. >
Yeah, the graphics are pretty old looking, but if you fiddle with some of the settings they can look a little better (turn up the draw distance for starters)-I find the most important thing in racing sims/games is that the graphics look decent, other than that they are not as important as a shooter. Once you get up to speed all you are going to be looking at is the road, pretty much, and maybe the controls once in a while. GPL is not really my style, though. For one, the physics model is very tricky. Also, there aren't many options for difficulty. I have been racing this game on and off for several months, done hundreds of laps at Monza, but still place at the bottom of the ranks. For me, gameplay is more important than simulation aspects, and while I can respect the dedication this game requires, I find it a letdown in the gameplay. Still, it might be worth playing if the subject interests you, and the netcode is suppossed to be good. For me, it was great to try out and see what all the fuss was. I like Nascar Legends better for Papyrus sims. There are more gameplay options and the cars are easier to drive, although graphics are the same quality as GPL. Of course it can get boring zooming around ovals, but it's overall a better game than GPL. I don't know much about online racing games, I have only done some racing online. I think Dirt Track Racing 2 is pretty good for online play. It has a game browser so you can easily find a game, and the number of options is pretty good and it has a decent career mode. It's oval racing though, but on Max realism it's pretty challenging on the short ovals. You might check out Leadfoot if you want some different turns in there and don't mind more dirt racing- again it has a god career mode, something that few PC racing sims have. I spend most of my time playing offline gaming, though. There are alot of other online racing games too, you really can't go wrong, it just depends on what you want. Formula 1, Nascar, Rally racing, sports cars?
Larry 22 Nov 2002 17:47 UTC↳ reply to Malc#88713
Interesting... I thought it was the service itself being discussed. I could very well have it _enabled_ for that folder, but only if it's done automatically by default. I sure didn't do it manyally. -Larry "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1zcD9.7658$dz2.1016231@stones...
Quoted text (7 lines)> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:OIbD9.1682$[email hidden]... > > I don't have this on and mine works fine. > > But lots of other people do, and it does no harm to allow indexing on the > gpl folder without actually switching the indexing service on. I have one > win2k PC where C:\ is NTFS & that's where gpl is installed. I had to
enable
Quoted text (7 lines)> indexing for gpl to work. > > Allowing indexing is not the same as enabling it. > > Malc. > >
Larry 22 Nov 2002 17:48 UTC↳ reply to Scott A.#88715
No. NTFS. -Larry "Scott A." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UEcD9.28038$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:OIbD9.1682$[email hidden]... > > I don't have this on and mine works fine. > > > > -Larry > > You have it installed on FAT I guess. > > Scott A.
GBB 22 Nov 2002 18:00 UTC↳ reply to Larry#88718
It's enabled by default, but a lot of people disable it to save space. For some reason gpl will not run without it enabled for the gpl folder at least. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:25uD9.4271$[email hidden]... > Interesting... > > I thought it was the service itself being discussed. I could very wellhave
Quoted text (12 lines)> it _enabled_ for that folder, but only if it's done automatically by > default. I sure didn't do it manyally. > > -Larry > > "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:1zcD9.7658$dz2.1016231@stones... > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:OIbD9.1682$[email hidden]... > > > I don't have this on and mine works fine. > > > > But lots of other people do, and it does no harm to allow indexing on
the > > gpl folder without actually switching the indexing service on. I haveone
Quoted text (11 lines)> > win2k PC where C:\ is NTFS & that's where gpl is installed. I had to > enable > > indexing for gpl to work. > > > > Allowing indexing is not the same as enabling it. > > > > Malc. > > > > > >
Malc 22 Nov 2002 20:56 UTC↳ reply to Larry#88729
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:25uD9.4271$[email hidden]... > Interesting... > > I thought it was the service itself being discussed. I could very wellhave > it _enabled_ for that folder, but only if it's done automatically by > default. I sure didn't do it manyally. I don't have winXP so I can't be sure, but I understand that indexing is only allowed on My Documents by default, and so presumably all other folders (including the gpl folder) don't allow it by default. Judging by the previous discussions in this newsgroup, you seem to be one of very few that doesn't need to enable it. To check, select the properties for the sierra or gpl folder, and click the advanced button on the general tab and there should be an option to allow indexing on this folder. If it isn't already enabled and you want to, select it and make sure you choose to allow it for subfolders etc too on the resulting message box. Malc.

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