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copy protection = performance hit

5 posts by 5 people · 26 Nov 2002 14:10 UTC - 27 Nov 2002 04:34 UTC

Dave Henrie 26 Nov 2002 14:10 UTC#88424
I just spent some time in the Reading Room and found a tip for Morrowind users. It seems the performance takes a huge hit when entering towns. The magazine writer stated that the quickest way to INcrease performance was to use a no-cd hack and bypass the SAFE DISK copy protection. Now most folks here know I loathe CP. But this really chapped my arse. I had always assumed copy protection was limited to booting the title, but if it intrudes into game-play that is almost criminal. Would somebody with some free time like to benchmark a few sims to see if this applies to simmers as well? I think the EA titles use safe disk, and ....Papy/Sierra is saddled with (guessing now) Secure Rom? Does the Copy Protection really drag down the whole game? dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 11/20/02
Wow.. I don't see how it'd mess with performance of a sim though, unless it does a disk-check every time you do a lap at a track or something weird like that. But, there's no harm looking into it. I always use NoCD cracks for games anyways, but I can always recopy the old .exe to check for differences. I wonder why the Morrowind game checks every time you enter a town? Maybe so people don't install it, and boot it up, and then pass the disk around at LAN's or something? If so, then that'd be reason enough for Nascar games to do the exact same loading the track every time. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ahLE9.123101$%[email hidden]... > I just spent some time in the Reading Room and found a tip forMorrowind > users. It seems the performance takes a huge hit when entering towns.The > magazine writer stated that the quickest way to INcrease performance wasto > use a no-cd hack and bypass the SAFE DISK copy protection. > Now most folks here know I loathe CP. But this really chapped myarse.
Quoted text (15 lines)> I had always assumed copy protection was limited to booting the title, but > if it intrudes into game-play that is almost criminal. > Would somebody with some free time like to benchmark a few sims to see > if this applies to simmers as well? I think the EA titles use safe disk, > and ....Papy/Sierra is saddled with (guessing now) Secure Rom? Does the > Copy Protection really drag down the whole game? > dave henrie > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 11/20/02 > >
Not sure if there is a connection here, but for some reason when trying to play N2k2, when starting with the CD in my older HP 4x4 CDRW drive, N2k2 would lock up after a few minutes within the sim. The mouse would still work, but I would have to reboot to get out. So, I made a CDClone image of the disk, fired it up with Dameon Tools, and walaa, no more problems. I assume this has something to do with the drive and Secure Rom, but either way this shouldn't be the case. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ahLE9.123101$%[email hidden]... > I just spent some time in the Reading Room and found a tip forMorrowind > users. It seems the performance takes a huge hit when entering towns.The > magazine writer stated that the quickest way to INcrease performance wasto > use a no-cd hack and bypass the SAFE DISK copy protection. > Now most folks here know I loathe CP. But this really chapped myarse.
Quoted text (15 lines)> I had always assumed copy protection was limited to booting the title, but > if it intrudes into game-play that is almost criminal. > Would somebody with some free time like to benchmark a few sims to see > if this applies to simmers as well? I think the EA titles use safe disk, > and ....Papy/Sierra is saddled with (guessing now) Secure Rom? Does the > Copy Protection really drag down the whole game? > dave henrie > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 11/20/02 > >
Hmmm... once you're at the track, nothing loads after that for the duration of the race. Therefore, I doubt that using a no-CD patch would increase performance during a race. -- Philippe "Philster" Sergerie "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ahLE9.123101$%[email hidden]... > I just spent some time in the Reading Room and found a tip for Morrowind > users. It seems the performance takes a huge hit when entering towns. The > magazine writer stated that the quickest way to INcrease performance was to > use a no-cd hack and bypass the SAFE DISK copy protection. > Now most folks here know I loathe CP. But this really chapped my arse. > I had always assumed copy protection was limited to booting the title, but > if it intrudes into game-play that is almost criminal. > Would somebody with some free time like to benchmark a few sims to see > if this applies to simmers as well? I think the EA titles use safe disk, > and ....Papy/Sierra is saddled with (guessing now) Secure Rom? Does the > Copy Protection really drag down the whole game? > dave henrie > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 11/20/02 > >
I've never noticed a frame rate difference in the driving games. I always play them a few times with the cd before I install a no cd patch. Of course, if the difference was small enough, I may not have noticed. It could be that some games draw from the cd when heavy graphics come up, like a town, and the cd slows overall game performance. When you clone a disk, it rereads spots on the original cd that may be troublesome until it gets it right or gives up, so I suppose it's possible in that case that a cloned image would perform better than the original cd where code was loaded slightly wrong. In this same case, I suppose the no cd patch would have the same effect. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ahLE9.123101$%[email hidden]... > I just spent some time in the Reading Room and found a tip for Morrowind > users. It seems the performance takes a huge hit when entering towns. The > magazine writer stated that the quickest way to INcrease performance was to > use a no-cd hack and bypass the SAFE DISK copy protection. > Now most folks here know I loathe CP. But this really chapped my arse. > I had always assumed copy protection was limited to booting the title, but > if it intrudes into game-play that is almost criminal. > Would somebody with some free time like to benchmark a few sims to see > if this applies to simmers as well? I think the EA titles use safe disk, > and ....Papy/Sierra is saddled with (guessing now) Secure Rom? Does the > Copy Protection really drag down the whole game? > dave henrie > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 11/20/02 > >

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