RS3 Released Tomorrow (5th)

Released in Europe and Canada tomorrow. Not sure about release dates elsewhere. David G Fisher

David G Fisher wrote: > Released in Europe and Canada tomorrow. Not sure about release dates > elsewhere. > > David G Fisher > > What is RS3 ?

> What is RS3 ? > Its the follow up to Formula One Racing Championship (F1RC) by Ubisoft All the best, Ash http://www.siroccoracing.com

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > Released in Europe and Canada tomorrow. Not sure about release dates > elsewhere. <completely bland look from the NG community about this release> :-| Seriously David, thanks for the heads up. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Interesting Dave. Where did you here that? All games are released on Fridays in UK, but anyway, there is no mention of it on any of the major games sites, EB, Game, Software First, etc. No mention on Ubi UK either. Iain "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Released in Europe and Canada tomorrow. Not sure about release dates > elsewhere. > > David G Fisher > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

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> Interesting Dave. Where did you here that? All games are released on > Fridays in UK, but anyway, there is no mention of it on any of the > major games sites, EB, Game, Software First, etc. No mention on Ubi UK > either. > > Iain >

check out this one: http://www.tothegame.com/game.asp?ID=1983 -it says Dec. 5th for EU... JoHS

On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 07:56:03 -0500, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Released in Europe and Canada tomorrow. Not sure about release dates >elsewhere. > >David G Fisher >Is this the patch for F1RC?? Hehe. Actually looking forward to this one. I'm not expecting it to be a F12k2 beater, but certainly if it has the best features of previous ubi games, then i am hopeful. ghosts, easy to edit graphics / sounds, decent internet gaming service, etc (recalling pod and f1rs). F1RC's licensing hassles and daft AI are hopefully put to rest now. On the pure sim front, i don't think it compares with the papy games, but sometimes you want an alternative. looking forward to any reviews... Regards all, istoff

hmmm... it does. So, how come there is no mention of its release anywhere on the major UK games sites? "johs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > > Interesting Dave. Where did you here that? All games are released on > > Fridays in UK, but anyway, there is no mention of it on any of the > > major games sites, EB, Game, Software First, etc. No mention on Ubi UK > > either. > > > > Iain > > > > check out this one: http://www.tothegame.com/game.asp?ID=1983 > -it says Dec. 5th for EU... > > JoHS

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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:41:37 -0500, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote >> Released in Europe and Canada tomorrow. Not sure about release dates >> elsewhere. > > ><completely bland look from the NG community about this release> :-| > > >Seriously David, thanks for the heads up.

:D Andre

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> On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:41:37 -0500, "ymenard" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > >> Released in Europe and Canada tomorrow. Not sure about release dates > >> elsewhere. > > > > > ><completely bland look from the NG community about this release> :-| > > > > > >Seriously David, thanks for the heads up. > > :D > > Andre

Yes, this "community" is always on top of things. Have a look at their reaction to me trying to get them interested in the first GT mod. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=6P408.13 710%24Xs4.3378183%40feed.centurytel.net&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Drec.autos.simulat ors%2BDavid%2BG%2BFisher%2BGT%2Bmod%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUT F-8%26selm%3DNIK%25257.369136%25245A3.140282085%2540news1.rdc2.pa.home.com%2 6rnum%3D5 David G Fisher

Racing Simulation 3 "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asl22r$ndn$[email hidden]...

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> > > What is RS3 ? > > > > Its the follow up to Formula One Racing Championship (F1RC) by Ubisoft > > All the best, > Ash > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > > > >

"Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > hmmm... it does. So, how come there is no mention of its release anywhereon > the major UK games sites? > http://www.softwarefirst.com/Product.asp?WebRef=10104724

> Racing Simulation 3 Some cynics might call it 'RA3' (Racing Approximation 3) ;) ...but I'll give it a chance...

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Yes, this "community" is always on top of things. > > Have a look at their reaction to me trying to get them interested in the > first GT mod. If the people of r.a.s shit on it that much, I'm surprised we even have GTR2002...

Thanks Ashley. Still no mention on Gam or EB though. Weird - not exactly being promoted well by Ubi. Couldn't see it mentioned on their site! Iain "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asm7h6$6k4$[email hidden]... > > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > hmmm... it does. So, how come there is no mention of its releaseanywhere

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> on > > the major UK games sites? > > > > > http://www.softwarefirst.com/Product.asp?WebRef=10104724 > >

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"Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Thanks Ashley. Still no mention on Gam or EB though. Weird - not exactly > being promoted well by Ubi. Couldn't see it mentioned on their site! > Iain > Yeah, I remember when warmup came out (i know, it was pants....it really was). It wasnt mentioned anywhere at all, but it appeared in Game and EB on the day of release. I'd say it'll be there tomorrow. All the best, Ash http://www.siroccoracing.com

or how bout Racing This-AI-Has-Done-Lost-It's-Friggin-Mind 3. "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asm8oh$rtrgi$[email hidden]... > > Racing Simulation 3 > > Some cynics might call it 'RA3' (Racing Approximation 3) ;) ...but I'llgive > it a chance... > >

"jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IqIH9.24770$[email hidden]... > or how bout Racing This-AI-Has-Done-Lost-It's-Friggin-Mind 3. > Not very catchy ;)

Just to continue the saga, I rang my local Game store and they had never heard of it, and will certainly not be getting it in tomorrow as it is not on their list of releases. What is going on? Iain "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asne2c$8kl$[email hidden]...

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> > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Thanks Ashley. Still no mention on Gam or EB though. Weird - not exactly > > being promoted well by Ubi. Couldn't see it mentioned on their site! > > Iain > > > > Yeah, I remember when warmup came out (i know, it was pants....it really > was). It wasnt mentioned anywhere at all, but it appeared in Game and EB

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> the day of release. I'd say it'll be there tomorrow. > > All the best, > Ash > http://www.siroccoracing.com > > >

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Actually you've been able to download it for a day or two now. Just go over to www.packetnews.com and you'll find where to get it there, its pretty easy to figure out.. Have fun :) Luke -=87=- "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Released in Europe and Canada tomorrow. Not sure about release dates > elsewhere. > > David G Fisher > >

"Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just to continue the saga, I rang my local Game store and they had never > heard of it, and will certainly not be getting it in tomorrow as it is not > on their list of releases. > What is going on? > Iain > Stop Press! Local technology store in lack of knowledge shocker :D It does seem to have gone unnoticed though, seems very strange. All the best, Ash http://www.siroccoracing.com

Great! I'll re-post this site for us all to get N2003, WRL, and LFS too. David G Fisher "Luke Phillips" <(NOSPM)[email hidden]> wrote in message news:95LH9.22570$[email hidden]... > Actually you've been able to download it for a day or two now. Just goover > to www.packetnews.com and you'll find where to get it there, its prettyeasy

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> to figure out.. Have fun :) > > Luke > -=87=- > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Released in Europe and Canada tomorrow. Not sure about release dates > > elsewhere. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > >

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> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Yes, this "community" is always on top of things. > > > > Have a look at their reaction to me trying to get them interested in the > > first GT mod. > > If the people of r.a.s shit on it that much, I'm surprised we even have > GTR2002... >

Shitting on sims before they give them a decent try (or even try them at all) is nothing new for r.a.s. David G Fisher

BTW, no sign of RS3 anywhere in UK. I don't think it has been released. Iain "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:asnbh9$speu1$[email hidden]... > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Yes, this "community" is always on top of things. > > > > > > Have a look at their reaction to me trying to get them interested in

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> > > first GT mod. > > > > If the people of r.a.s shit on it that much, I'm surprised we even have > > GTR2002... > > > > Shitting on sims before they give them a decent try (or even try them at > all) is nothing new for r.a.s. > > David G Fisher > >

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On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 15:29:31 -0500, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Shitting on sims before they give them a decent try (or even try them at >all) is nothing new for r.a.s. > >David G Fisher Actually I think it's mostly because of the F1RC patch story that people don't give a shit about RS3. Andre

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> On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 15:29:31 -0500, "David G Fisher" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > Shitting on sims before they give them a decent try (or even try them at > >all) is nothing new for r.a.s. > > > >David G Fisher > > Actually I think it's mostly because of the F1RC patch story that > people don't give a shit about RS3. > > Andre

Yes, there's always an excuse, as that google thread I posted earlier showed. David G Fisher

I don't think it's been released in the UK yet either. I ordered it from softwarefirst.com, but it hasn't been shipped yet. David G Fisher "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> BTW, no sign of RS3 anywhere in UK. I don't think it has been released. > Iain > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:asnbh9$speu1$[email hidden]... > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Yes, this "community" is always on top of things. > > > > > > > > Have a look at their reaction to me trying to get them interested in > the > > > > first GT mod. > > > > > > If the people of r.a.s shit on it that much, I'm surprised we even

have > > > GTR2002... > > > > > > > Shitting on sims before they give them a decent try (or even try themat

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David G Fisher wrote:

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> > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 15:29:31 -0500, "David G Fisher" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > Shitting on sims before they give them a decent try (or even try them at > > >all) is nothing new for r.a.s. > > > > > >David G Fisher > > > > Actually I think it's mostly because of the F1RC patch story that > > people don't give a shit about RS3. > > > > Andre > > Yes, there's always an excuse, as that google thread I posted earlier > showed.

Who wants yet another modern F1 game anyway? Boring ...

On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 17:56:08 -0500, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yes, there's always an excuse, as that google thread I posted earlier >showed. > >David G Fisher For some things there are no excuses: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=f1rc+patch+group:rec.autos.simulators+author:fisher&hl=nl&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=qK_V6.14383%24Zt6.6673559%40news1.rdc2.pa.home.com&rnum=2 Andre

Andre, For the 10 millionth time, VideoSystems was the publisher for F1RC. They decided whether a patch was put out or not. Not Ubi Soft. Just like Sierra decides what happens to Papyrus. VideoSystems is no longer involved with RS3. Time to move on. If I couldn't move on, then I wouldn't buy N2003 since those pussies at Papyrus never bothered to respond to even one of my polite attempts to get help for my freezes which ruined 8 out of every 10 of my races, and also cost me about $500 in futile attempts at replacing perfectly good hardware searching for an answer. David G Fisher "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 17:56:08 -0500, "David G Fisher" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Yes, there's always an excuse, as that google thread I posted earlier > >showed. > > > >David G Fisher > > For some things there are no excuses: > >

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=f1rc+patch+group:rec.autos.simulators+auth or:fisher&hl=nl&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=qK_V6.14383%24Zt6.6673559%40news1 .rdc2.pa.home.com&rnum=2 > > Andre

I think the real story here is just how much control the PUBLISHER has over the creative works of SOFTWARE DEVLOLPERS. It's truly sad what these publishers do to the developers and their fans/customers. They remind me of Loan Sharks. -Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Andre, > > For the 10 millionth time, VideoSystems was the publisher for F1RC. They > decided whether a patch was put out or not. Not Ubi Soft. Just like Sierra > decides what happens to Papyrus. > > VideoSystems is no longer involved with RS3. > > Time to move on. > > If I couldn't move on, then I wouldn't buy N2003 since those pussies at > Papyrus never bothered to respond to even one of my polite attempts to get > help for my freezes which ruined 8 out of every 10 of my races, and also > cost me about $500 in futile attempts at replacing perfectly good hardware > searching for an answer. > > David G Fisher > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2002 17:56:08 -0500, "David G Fisher" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >Yes, there's always an excuse, as that google thread I posted earlier > > >showed. > > > > > >David G Fisher > > > > For some things there are no excuses: > > > > >

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=f1rc+patch+group:rec.autos.simulators+auth >or:fisher&hl=nl&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=qK_V6.14383%24Zt6.6673559%40news1 > .rdc2.pa.home.com&rnum=2 > > > > Andre > >

On Sun, 08 Dec 2002 20:52:36 +0100, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: >For some things there are no excuses: > >http://groups.google.com/groups?q=f1rc+patch+group:rec.autos.simulators+author:fisher&hl=nl&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=qK_V6.14383%24Zt6.6673559%40news1.rdc2.pa.home.com&rnum=2 Ouch. =) Jason

>"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > For some things there are no excuses: Eh we all live with a dark past that won't ever be erased do we? ;-D -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Yes, we do. Remember the mother of all debates here at r.a.s.? It took me a half an hour to realize cars in GPL did not handle realistically. It wasn't until Kaemmer finally said the same thing that many of you were forced to admit the same thing a few years later. Imagine if I went back and posted the 10 trillion posts by you experts which insisted I was wrong (among other not so pleasant things), and the cars handled perfectly. "Ouch". David G Fisher "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JbSI9.7625$[email hidden]...

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> >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > > For some things there are no excuses: > > > Eh we all live with a dark past that won't ever be erased do we? ;-D > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > >

Lol, I had the same thing happen to me Dave re GPL :) John "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Yes, we do. > > Remember the mother of all debates here at r.a.s.? It took me a half anhour > to realize cars in GPL did not handle realistically. > > It wasn't until Kaemmer finally said the same thing that many of you were > forced to admit the same thing a few years later. Imagine if I went backand

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> posted the 10 trillion posts by you experts which insisted I was wrong > (among other not so pleasant things), and the cars handled perfectly. > > "Ouch". > > David G Fisher > > > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JbSI9.7625$[email hidden]... > > >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > For some things there are no excuses: > > > > > > Eh we all live with a dark past that won't ever be erased do we? ;-D > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > > > > >

On Sun, 8 Dec 2002 20:55:46 -0500, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Remember the mother of all debates here at r.a.s.? It took me a half an hour >to realize cars in GPL did not handle realistically. There isn't a sim with cars that handle realistically. There are degrees of realism and immersion, however, and GPL is still in the top 3 driving simulations of all time in that regards. There was a great post by Arnao on the Simbin forums recently where he scoffed at how people are constantly comparing sims based how close to reality they are, rather than how convincing they are. At this point in time, there are no sims comparable to GPL/N2002/F12002/GTR2002 in terms of emulating the sensations that a real driver experiences while pushing a car to the limit and beyond, and most experienced real-life racers who also spend time with sims seem to have a formed a concensus in that regard. Jason

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > Remember the mother of all debates here at r.a.s.? It took me a half anhour > to realize cars in GPL did not handle realistically. No simulation will ever handle cars realistically. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Maybe true, but surely the point is to get as close to realism as can be achieved given the obvious restrictions of the artificial environment of a PC. "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JHTI9.8010$[email hidden]...

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> >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Remember the mother of all debates here at r.a.s.? It took me a half an > hour > > to realize cars in GPL did not handle realistically. > > No simulation will ever handle cars realistically. >

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> > Yes, we do. > > Remember the mother of all debates here at r.a.s.? It took me a half an hour > to realize cars in GPL did not handle realistically. > > It wasn't until Kaemmer finally said the same thing that many of you were > forced to admit the same thing a few years later. Imagine if I went back and > posted the 10 trillion posts by you experts which insisted I was wrong > (among other not so pleasant things), and the cars handled perfectly.

Are you referring to the time Kaemmer said the tyre model in N2002 was far superior to GPL's?

Iain Mackenzie wrote: > Maybe true, but surely the point is to get as close to realism as can be > achieved given the obvious restrictions of the artificial environment of a > PC. What, you mean like GP4? ;) Gerry "As real as it gets!" GC "GP4 is ******* crap!" GA

Still didn't take my advice about getting treatment then Gerr? You're obsessed my boy, you really ought to try to get GP4 out of your mind - most others have some time ago! "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > Maybe true, but surely the point is to get as close to realism as can be > > achieved given the obvious restrictions of the artificial environment ofa

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> > PC. > > What, you mean like GP4? ;) > > Gerry > > "As real as it gets!" GC > > "GP4 is ******* crap!" GA

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> Yes, we do. > > Remember the mother of all debates here at r.a.s.? It took me a half an hour > to realize cars in GPL did not handle realistically. > > It wasn't until Kaemmer finally said the same thing that many of you were > forced to admit the same thing a few years later. Imagine if I went back and > posted the 10 trillion posts by you experts which insisted I was wrong > (among other not so pleasant things), and the cars handled perfectly. > > "Ouch". > > David G Fisher

Right, Dave. You're a genius. We were all blind. We weren't *actually* having a good time while playing GPL, we only *thought* we were having a good time. Mark Reading, UK

Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > Still didn't take my advice about getting treatment then Gerr? > > You're obsessed my boy, you really ought to try to get GP4 out of your > mind - most others have some time ago! GP4 = unistalled & forgotten. :)

Mark wrote:

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> > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > > Yes, we do. > > > > Remember the mother of all debates here at r.a.s.? It took me a half an hour > > to realize cars in GPL did not handle realistically. > > > > It wasn't until Kaemmer finally said the same thing that many of you were > > forced to admit the same thing a few years later. Imagine if I went back and > > posted the 10 trillion posts by you experts which insisted I was wrong > > (among other not so pleasant things), and the cars handled perfectly. > > > > "Ouch". > > > > David G Fisher > > Right, Dave. > > You're a genius. > > We were all blind. We weren't *actually* having a good time while > playing GPL, we only *thought* we were having a good time. > > Mark > Reading, UK

Mark -- it was the same with CPR! We were all suffering from mass delusion, according to Dave, CPR was actually the best racing sim ever. Gerry "Unfortunately, most people I see think that just because they exist, their opinions should be heard." -- David G Fisher

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:43:28 +0000, Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> wrote: >Mark -- it was the same with CPR! We were all suffering from mass >delusion, according to Dave, CPR was actually the best racing sim ever. It took me all of half an hour to realize that CPR was the most convincing racing sim ever! Jason

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> >On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:43:28 +0000, Gerry Aitken ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Mark -- it was the same with CPR! We were all suffering from mass >>delusion, according to Dave, CPR was actually the best racing sim ever. > >It took me all of half an hour to realize that CPR was the most >convincing racing sim ever! > >Jason >

CPR convincinly models the infinite suck of most Micro$oft products. :) ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Webmaster, http://simcrash.fameflame.dk

[email hidden] (Dan Belcher) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > CPR convincinly models the infinite suck of most Micro$oft products. :) LOL! "models the infinate suck"! I'm gonna store that expression for later use :) Did anyone ever think that GPL was 100% perfect? I very much doubt it. Did anyone think that GPL was the best auto racing simulation at the time of it's release? You betcha. Ignoring the evolutions that were N4 and N2K2, GPL is arguably still top 3 along with F12K2 (and associted mods) and Live for Speed. Regards, Mark