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GTR2002 - how to make it faster

8 posts by 7 people · 05 Dec 2002 12:33 UTC - 06 Dec 2002 07:25 UTC

Jani Tuominen 05 Dec 2002 12:33 UTC#86932
P3 700/128MB/GFORCE2 MX As you can see, not really a machine to play it. I'm getting more RAM (512) and was thinking maybe I could get it run better if I also got gforce4 card at the same time. I know I really should buy new machine but I can't affort it right now. How big difference would that new gforce4 card do? If I now get 20FPS, what could I get with 512MB/gforce4?
In the UK we have online stores that sell the box part of the pc with XP1600+ type spec and 256 mb ram and a GF4 mx440 for example for �250. Far better way to spend your money than adding a GF4 and 512mb ram to that old pc. Also to move up to 512mb ram in those systems takes it to �295....they are infinitely configurable,adding and taking away anything you want. Dont know your exact prices but just my advice. AD p.s For example... http://www.aria.co.uk/systems_CustomBuild.asp
Fatbob 05 Dec 2002 13:33 UTC↳ reply to Aidee#86842
Sorry, but a GF4 mx is a piece of junk. From everything I read about the GF4mx, I doubt it'd be much better that his current GF2. Since you're on a budget, I'd go for a GF4 4200 or a Radeon 8500 (this is the one I have, and I love it!) or 9000. Heck even a GF3 Ti 500 is much, much better than a GF4 mx. My $0.02 Fatbob "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asnjvs$mbl$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> In the UK we have online stores that sell the box part of the pc with > XP1600+ type spec and 256 mb ram and a GF4 mx440 for example for �250. > > Far better way to spend your money than adding a GF4 and 512mb ram to that > old pc. > > Also to move up to 512mb ram in those systems takes it to �295....they are > infinitely configurable,adding and taking away anything you want. > > Dont know your exact prices but just my advice. > > AD > > p.s For example... http://www.aria.co.uk/systems_CustomBuild.asp > > > >
Aidee 05 Dec 2002 14:14 UTC↳ reply to Fatbob#86848
GF4 MX440 is a total piece of junk i agree 100% ...but i was trying to widen his psyche as regards raising his fps... I would specify a GF4 ti4200 with one of those base units and see change out of �350 in his position. AD
I built a really cheap PC for my friend, which came to $400 CDN ($250 US). ECS K7S5A motherboard - it has onboard LAN and Sound. The sound isn't great or anything, but at least it has sound. Which means that if you ever get the extra cash, you can put whatever soundcard you want in it later. AMD 1700+XP CPU - Right now (in Canada anyways), this is one of the cheapest processors. I think the best bang-for-the-buck is the 2100+, but we tried to keep the budget down. RAM - If your old PC has PC133 RAM, take that. The motherboard supports PC133 -or- DDR. So use what you have if you got no cash. If you do, throw some DDR in there. For my friend's PC we just scored 256MB of PC133 for really cheap. RADEON 9000 - A cheap vidcard ($100 US I think), but it supports directx 8.1 and gets decent scores. 6000 or so I think on 3Dmark. About the same price as a GF4MX440, but way better in my opinion (and most others). HARDDRIVE - You should already have one of these :) CASE/ETC - Maybe you already have an ATX case? If not, there's some with 300W power supplies for $30. So, right there, you're probably looking at like $200US and you got a PC that's well equipped to run F12002. Plus, you spent hardly any money on a platform that is really upgradeable. You can run a killer sound/video card if you want. 1Gig of DDR or a few hundred gig's of harddrive space :) Just some basic guidelines I guess, for building a dirt cheap PC that can perform quite well. But, if ya got more than $200US, you could make an even better system by upgrading some of this. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Jani Tuominen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> P3 700/128MB/GFORCE2 MX > > As you can see, not really a machine to play it. I'm getting more RAM > (512) and was thinking maybe I could get it run better if I also got > gforce4 card at the same time. > > I know I really should buy new machine but I can't affort it right > now. How big difference would that new gforce4 card do? If I now get > 20FPS, what could I get with 512MB/gforce4? > >
Don't upgrade that machine (especially the RAM since you won't use it in another machine). Money you spend now could be used on a better upgrade later. BTW, the 1600/256MBRAM upgrade is a good choice. I run an AMD 1600/512MB Ram and the game runs smooooth (40fps with full 35 AI cars). My video card is a GF4 Ti4400 but I was nearly as fast with a GF3 Ti 500 (which is much cheaper these days). Since $ is an issue, an ATI 8500 is probably the best video card value right now. If you pop that in your old rig and wait for the chip and ram that's better than buying too much video card now and useless ram. -- Joe M. "Jani Tuominen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > P3 700/128MB/GFORCE2 MX > > As you can see, not really a machine to play it. I'm getting more RAM > (512) and was thinking maybe I could get it run better if I also got > gforce4 card at the same time. > > I know I really should buy new machine but I can't affort it right > now. How big difference would that new gforce4 card do? If I now get > 20FPS, what could I get with 512MB/gforce4? > >
Well if you were in australia i would say: For $1200AU or 700EURO you could upgrade to P4 2.4, Good Mobo, GF4 Ti4200, 512mb ram. But if thats out of the question, as other people have said go for a GF4 ti4200 or Raedon 8500. The ram wont really help overall FPS, just reduce loading and sometimes in-game stuttering. Luke -=87=- "Jani Tuominen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> P3 700/128MB/GFORCE2 MX > > As you can see, not really a machine to play it. I'm getting more RAM > (512) and was thinking maybe I could get it run better if I also got > gforce4 card at the same time. > > I know I really should buy new machine but I can't affort it right > now. How big difference would that new gforce4 card do? If I now get > 20FPS, what could I get with 512MB/gforce4? > >
On Thu, 05 Dec 2002 12:33:15 GMT, [email hidden] (Jani Tuominen) wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>P3 700/128MB/GFORCE2 MX > >As you can see, not really a machine to play it. I'm getting more RAM >(512) and was thinking maybe I could get it run better if I also got >gforce4 card at the same time. > >I know I really should buy new machine but I can't affort it right >now. How big difference would that new gforce4 card do? If I now get >20FPS, what could I get with 512MB/gforce4? >
Well, I have a P3 700/512MB GEFORCE2 MX, unfortunately I haven't installed GTR2002 yet (since I have to buy F1 2002 first!). However, if you're planning to upgrade your video card, in case you're thinking of a GeForce4 *MX*, I've heard reports that the improvement over the GF2MX isn't too much, better get a GeForce3 Ti200 (or a Ti500) now that they've become cheaper. Of course, if you intended to buy a GF4 *Ti4200* or some othe *Ti* model, well, that's a different story... -- __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com '-_____|( remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

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