OT: The Worlds Worst Troll?

I just headed over to rec.autos.sport.cart, and they own the biggest troll ever to be seen on usenet. This guy is a messed up IRL fan who is contributing 75% of the posts to that newsgroup. He was called 'nik zeppelin', now he is 'For Whom The Bell Tolls'. Any ideas on how to kick him out? Nick.

"Nick" wrote... > I just headed over to rec.autos.sport.cart, and they own > the biggest troll ever to be seen on usenet. This guy is > a messed up IRL fan who is contributing 75% of the posts > to that newsgroup. He was called 'nik zeppelin', now he > is 'For Whom The Bell Tolls'. Any ideas on how to kick > him out? This sounds like a job for "LeChicken"... <g> Jan. =---

We're not fools. You're him. :) Alanb "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:at4jbp$1062or$[email hidden]... > I just headed over to rec.autos.sport.cart, and they own the biggest troll > ever to be seen on usenet. This guy is a messed up IRL fan who is > contributing 75% of the posts to that newsgroup. He was called 'nik > zeppelin', now he is 'For Whom The Bell Tolls'. Any ideas on how to kickhim > out? > > Nick. > >

Where did the word "troll" come from anyway? Jone.

It's a fishing term, meaning to drag a hook through a school of fish hoping to catch one. No skill needed.. Basically, it refers to someone who comes into a newsgroup looking for controversy and utters obviously inflammatory statements which get some people to 'bite'. The others - the smarter 'fish' - learn to stay clear.. "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:at4l0p$10n61h$[email hidden]... > Where did the word "troll" come from anyway? > > Jone. > >

"eracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:x%kJ9.187841$[email hidden]... > It's a fishing term, meaning to drag a hook through a school of fishhoping > to catch one. No skill needed.. > > Basically, it refers to someone who comes into a newsgroup looking for > controversy and utters obviously inflammatory statements which get some > people to 'bite'. The others - the smarter 'fish' - learn to stay clear.. > Thanks! I understand the usenet meaning of the word but was curious where it came from. In Norwegian a Troll is a mythical creature. Something like this: http://www.mjoesormen.no/Bilder/trolletsitteriura.JPG Jone. http://tytlandsvik.no

"Nick" <[email hidden]> writes: > I just headed over to rec.autos.sport.cart, and they own the biggest troll > ever to be seen on usenet. This guy is a messed up IRL fan who is > contributing 75% of the posts to that newsgroup. He was called 'nik > zeppelin', now he is 'For Whom The Bell Tolls'. Any ideas on how to kick him > out? Sadly, the only is it to totally ignore him, and use a killfile. It's a pure 101 on wrecking a once great newsgroup. And as you said, i've been using newsgroups since 93 and seen some cases over the years, but this one is the king... -- Olav Malmin remove .spam when replying

> I just headed over to rec.autos.sport.cart, and they own the biggest troll > ever to be seen on usenet. This guy is a messed up IRL fan who is > contributing 75% of the posts to that newsgroup. He was called 'nik > zeppelin', now he is 'For Whom The Bell Tolls'. Any ideas on how to kickhim > out? Isn't there a guy called Rik Zeppelin who used to be regular here? He wasn't a troll from what I remember...

"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:welJ9.517$[email hidden]... > > I just headed over to rec.autos.sport.cart, and they own the biggesttroll

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> > ever to be seen on usenet. This guy is a messed up IRL fan who is > > contributing 75% of the posts to that newsgroup. He was called 'nik > > zeppelin', now he is 'For Whom The Bell Tolls'. Any ideas on how to kick > him > > out? > > Isn't there a guy called Rik Zeppelin who used to be regular here? He > wasn't a troll from what I remember... >

There is a 'rik zeppelin' in r.a.s.c and he isn't a troll, but this guy is 'nik zeppelin'. They appear to be different people (ie the troll must have got annoyed by 'rik' so he changed his name to 'nik').

Actually he, and others like him is the reason I stopped going to rec.auto.sport.cart I got tired of every post being dragged down into the mud. That, and his hourly CART stock reports was enough to send me packing. Rob "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:at4jbp$1062or$[email hidden]... > I just headed over to rec.autos.sport.cart, and they own the biggest troll > ever to be seen on usenet. This guy is a messed up IRL fan who is > contributing 75% of the posts to that newsgroup. He was called 'nik > zeppelin', now he is 'For Whom The Bell Tolls'. Any ideas on how to kickhim > out? > > Nick. > >

"Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<at4l0p$10n61h$[email hidden]>... > Where did the word "troll" come from anyway? > > Jone. Trolling as in trolling for fish, or fishing for a response... AKA Trolling... AKA Troll The CART and IRL usenet Newsgroups are a wastland of name calling and abuse... For more enlightend converstation about CART and the IRL go to www.seventhgear.com or to www.trackforum.com

"Jone Tytlandsvik"\ In Norwegian a Troll is a mythical creature. Something like this: > > http://www.mjoesormen.no/Bilder/trolletsitteriura.JPG > > Jone. > http://tytlandsvik.no Mythical? Looks like some Rassers I know.!!! dave (no I ain't saying who...but THEY know I know)henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02

Just have everyone put him in a killfile. Once he figures out that NOBODY is paying attention, he'll change his name and annoy you again. Repeat the process. Trolls biggest fear is no-one listening to them. Sooner or later he'll get lonely and head elsewhere. dave henrie "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:at4q51$v20c7$[email hidden]...

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> > "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:welJ9.517$[email hidden]... > > > I just headed over to rec.autos.sport.cart, and they own the biggest > troll > > > ever to be seen on usenet. This guy is a messed up IRL fan who is > > > contributing 75% of the posts to that newsgroup. He was called 'nik > > > zeppelin', now he is 'For Whom The Bell Tolls'. Any ideas on how to

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> > him > > > out? > > > > Isn't there a guy called Rik Zeppelin who used to be regular here? He > > wasn't a troll from what I remember... > > > > There is a 'rik zeppelin' in r.a.s.c and he isn't a troll, but this guy is > 'nik zeppelin'. They appear to be different people (ie the troll must have > got annoyed by 'rik' so he changed his name to 'nik'). > >

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"eracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:x%kJ9.187841$[email hidden]... > It's a fishing term, meaning to drag a hook through a school of fishhoping > to catch one. No skill needed.. > Isn't that 'trawling'?

I think it is sort of a double meaning, troll being a nasty creature, and trolling meaning fishing for or baiting other usenetizens into angry emotional response. If you ignore them, they will usually get bored and go away. "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<at4l0p$10n61h$[email hidden]>... > Where did the word "troll" come from anyway? > > Jone.

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:29:13 +0100, "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Thanks! >I understand the usenet meaning of the word but was curious where it came >from. In Norwegian a Troll is a mythical creature. Something like this: > >http://www.mjoesormen.no/Bilder/trolletsitteriura.JPG > >Jone. >http://tytlandsvik.no

And I allways thought a usenet Troll -was- a Norwegian Troll.. it never made sense to me either :) Andre

That picture looks a little like the ancient Nauga. A tough little creature that we're all familiar with because of his skin, a fine replacement for leather. Although the Nauga is extinct, Naugahyde is still easily found and used in many applications. http://www.slottweak.com/images/nauga.gif -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:at4mmu$101lhh$[email hidden]... > "eracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:x%kJ9.187841$[email hidden]... > > It's a fishing term, meaning to drag a hook through a school of fish > hoping > > to catch one. No skill needed.. > > > > Basically, it refers to someone who comes into a newsgroup looking for > > controversy and utters obviously inflammatory statements which get some > > people to 'bite'. The others - the smarter 'fish' - learn to stay clear.. > > > > Thanks! > I understand the usenet meaning of the word but was curious where it came > from. In Norwegian a Troll is a mythical creature. Something like this: > > http://www.mjoesormen.no/Bilder/trolletsitteriura.JPG > > Jone. > http://tytlandsvik.no > >

"Rob Upward" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:v%lJ9.295028$[email hidden]... > Actually he, and others like him is the reason I stopped going to > rec.auto.sport.cart I got tired of every post being dragged down intothe > mud. That, and his hourly CART stock reports was enough to send mepacking. So he won (no offence!). That's sad :(. Regards Crash

"Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xCpJ9.5166$[email hidden]...

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> > "eracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:x%kJ9.187841$[email hidden]... > > It's a fishing term, meaning to drag a hook through a school of fish > hoping > > to catch one. No skill needed.. > > > > Isn't that 'trawling'? >

Trawling at sea, trolling on lakes. Trawling is done on a much larger scale: Troll \Troll\, v. 4. To angle for with a trolling line, or with a book drawn along the surface of the water; hence, to allure. Trawl \Trawl\, n. 1. A fishing line, often extending a mile or more, having many short lines bearing hooks attached to it. It is used for catching cod, halibut, etc.; a boulter. [U. S. & Canada] 2. A large bag net attached to a beam with iron frames at its ends, and dragged at the bottom of the sea, -- used in fishing, and in gathering forms of marine life from the sea bottom.

>"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote > This sounds like a job for "LeChicken"... <g> "Up, and away, to the rescue!!!!" -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Classic! G. "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:at5ipn$10osdi$[email hidden]... > That picture looks a little like the ancient Nauga. A tough littlecreature > that we're all familiar with because of his skin, a fine replacement for > leather. Although the Nauga is extinct, Naugahyde is still easily foundand

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> used in many applications. > http://www.slottweak.com/images/nauga.gif > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > > > > "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:at4mmu$101lhh$[email hidden]... > > "eracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:x%kJ9.187841$[email hidden]... > > > It's a fishing term, meaning to drag a hook through a school of fish > > hoping > > > to catch one. No skill needed.. > > > > > > Basically, it refers to someone who comes into a newsgroup looking for > > > controversy and utters obviously inflammatory statements which get

some > > > people to 'bite'. The others - the smarter 'fish' - learn to stay > clear.. > > > > > > > Thanks! > > I understand the usenet meaning of the word but was curious where itcame

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> > from. In Norwegian a Troll is a mythical creature. Something like this: > > > > http://www.mjoesormen.no/Bilder/trolletsitteriura.JPG > > > > Jone. > > http://tytlandsvik.no > > > > > >

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:09:41 GMT, Dave Henrie wrote: > Just have everyone put him in a killfile. Once he figures out that NOBODY > is paying attention, he'll change his name and annoy you again. Repeat the Well, that's really hard to do on a group-wide scale... the problem why trolling is so successful is that *someone* eventually replies (maybe a newbie or someone infuriated by the troll's ramblings), then someone else points out he shouldn't have, then someone else points out there is no need to full-quote top post the rubbish a second time if it's that shite (that would be me ;-), and so on, until the whole affair erupts in a huge flamewar, with the troll sitting back and smiling to himself smugly ;-) To Achim: ToFuRank isn't trolling, it's an educational institution ;-) Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

<g> beauty lies in the eye of the beholder ;-) Achim "Uwe Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... ... > To Achim: ToFuRank isn't trolling, it's an educational > institution ;-)

Trolls often resemble stray cats... if you don't feed them... they don't come around... Cheers, Schumi "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:at4jbp$1062or$[email hidden]... > I just headed over to rec.autos.sport.cart, and they own the biggest troll > ever to be seen on usenet. This guy is a messed up IRL fan who is > contributing 75% of the posts to that newsgroup. He was called 'nik > zeppelin', now he is 'For Whom The Bell Tolls'. Any ideas on how to kickhim > out? > > Nick. > >

In article <at5q2o$nr$07$[email hidden]>, >> mud. That, and his hourly CART stock reports was enough to send me >packing. > >So he won (no offence!). That's sad :(. Historically, trolls often do win. Many newsgroups are shadows of their former selves. -Tim

"Jason 'Schumi' Murray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PeUJ9.10410$[email hidden]... > Trolls often resemble stray cats... if you don't feed them... they don't > come around... > > Cheers, > Schumi > Yeah, but I *like* cats...

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> > "Jason 'Schumi' Murray" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:PeUJ9.10410$[email hidden]... > > Trolls often resemble stray cats... if you don't feed them... they don't > > come around... > > > > Cheers, > > Schumi > > > > Yeah, but I *like* cats...

Not to mention that those guys had some awesome hair do's.... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Looks pretty accurate to me :) We just don't have to physically see them here. -Larry "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:at4mmu$101lhh$[email hidden]...

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> "eracer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:x%kJ9.187841$[email hidden]... > > It's a fishing term, meaning to drag a hook through a school of fish > hoping > > to catch one. No skill needed.. > > > > Basically, it refers to someone who comes into a newsgroup looking for > > controversy and utters obviously inflammatory statements which get some > > people to 'bite'. The others - the smarter 'fish' - learn to stay

clear..

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> > > > Thanks! > I understand the usenet meaning of the word but was curious where it came > from. In Norwegian a Troll is a mythical creature. Something like this: > > http://www.mjoesormen.no/Bilder/trolletsitteriura.JPG > > Jone. > http://tytlandsvik.no > >