RS3 any good?

Just read this review of Racing Simulation 3: http://f1rc.simracing.dk/default.asp?id=3&uid1=35 Did anyone here try it yet? Is it any good? It seems to me it's not in the same league with top sims like GPL, GTR2002, NASCAR, but it could still be worthwhile if the physics are ok. Ice D

I think you'll find that it hasn't been released yet, despite some optimistic views here recently about 6 December. If I'm wrong tell me where I can get it and I'll let you know! Iain "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uTlK9.19894$[email hidden]...

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> Just read this review of Racing Simulation 3: > > http://f1rc.simracing.dk/default.asp?id=3&uid1=35 > > Did anyone here try it yet? Is it any good? It seems to me it's not in the > same league with top sims like GPL, GTR2002, NASCAR, but it could still be > worthwhile if the physics are ok. > > Ice D > >

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Ah, I see. I figured it was out already, because I saw the release date of 6th december on several sites. Ice D "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I think you'll find that it hasn't been released yet, despite some > optimistic views here recently about 6 December. If I'm wrong tell mewhere

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> I can get it and I'll let you know! > Iain > > > "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:uTlK9.19894$[email hidden]... > > Just read this review of Racing Simulation 3: > > > > http://f1rc.simracing.dk/default.asp?id=3&uid1=35 > > > > Did anyone here try it yet? Is it any good? It seems to me it's not in

the > > same league with top sims like GPL, GTR2002, NASCAR, but it could stillbe

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> > worthwhile if the physics are ok. > > > > Ice D > > > > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

"Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AwGK9.23432$[email hidden]... > Ah, I see. I figured it was out already, because I saw the release date of > 6th december on several sites. > > Ice D (I'm sorry DGF, I cain't resist....) I think they are waiting on a patch before releasing it.. dave (yes, it's a cheapshot) henrie

It�s definetly released. Saw it in a store last Wednesday here in Germany! Michael "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:l8HK9.352018$P31.131934@rwcrnsc53... > > "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:AwGK9.23432$[email hidden]... > > Ah, I see. I figured it was out already, because I saw the release dateof

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> > 6th december on several sites. > > > > Ice D > (I'm sorry DGF, I cain't resist....) > > I think they are waiting on a patch before releasing it.. > > > dave (yes, it's a cheapshot) henrie > >

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Michael Wollenschein wrote: > > It´s definetly released. > > Saw it in a store last Wednesday here in Germany! Hey Michael, gave it the ol body swerve, did you? :) Cheers Gerry

"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... Michael Wollenschein wrote: > > It�s definetly released. > > Saw it in a store last Wednesday here in Germany! Hey Michael, gave it the ol body swerve, did you? :) Cheers Gerry If that's your recommendation, then I'm sure it's the best sim yet. David G Fisher

Still nowhere to be seen in the UK. Iain "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > Michael Wollenschein wrote: > > > > It�s definetly released. > > > > Saw it in a store last Wednesday here in Germany! > > Hey Michael, gave it the ol body swerve, did you? :) > > Cheers > > Gerry > > If that's your recommendation, then I'm sure it's the best sim yet. > > David G Fisher > >

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David G Fisher wrote:

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> > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > Michael Wollenschein wrote: > > > > It´s definetly released. > > > > Saw it in a store last Wednesday here in Germany! > > Hey Michael, gave it the ol body swerve, did you? :) > > Cheers > > Gerry > > If that's your recommendation, then I'm sure it's the best sim yet. > > David G Fisher

Like CPR was?

"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... David G Fisher wrote:

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> > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > Michael Wollenschein wrote: > > > > It�s definetly released. > > > > Saw it in a store last Wednesday here in Germany! > > Hey Michael, gave it the ol body swerve, did you? :) > > Cheers > > Gerry > > If that's your recommendation, then I'm sure it's the best sim yet. > > David G Fisher

Were you on r.a.s. back then Gerry? Don't remember you then. Why don't you confine yourself to debates which you were actually around to be part of. What was a better auto sim when CPR was released? ICR2? N2? Don't think so. BTW Gerry, because of my analysis of CPR and another racing game which I beta tested with him, I was picked by the developer of VROC to beta test that along with about a dozen other guys long, long before you ever got a chance to make it your girlfriend. Apparently he respected my opinions a lot more than you do. He then had me test a few more racing games for him when he moved on and took a job as a racing game developer. Does it bother you Gerry that I was one of the beta testers of your beloved VROC? Bet it does. Think of me every time you fire it up. David G Fisher

On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:37:00 -0500, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Were you on r.a.s. back then Gerry? Don't remember you then. Why don't you >confine yourself to debates which you were actually around to be part of. >What was a better auto sim when CPR was released? ICR2? N2? Don't think so. Aside from being old and designed to work on 486 CPU's what was wrong with ICR2 or N2 realism-wise? They were pretty damn good considering the limitations of processor power available at the time. GP2 was a fine sim as well, the only one that really touched ICR2 at the time. Jason

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > What was a better auto sim when CPR was released? ICR2? N2? Don't thinkso. SODA : Off-Road Racing! -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"David Horrocks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:37:00 -0500, "David G Fisher" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >What was a better auto sim when CPR was released? ICR2? N2? Don't thinkso. > > I thought CPR was pretty much universally dissed? Never played it > myself, but ICR2 was a damn good sim for it's time - one of the best > ever. Which one still has active offline leagues? dave(hint: the one with a # in the title) henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02

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> > "David Horrocks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:37:00 -0500, "David G Fisher" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >What was a better auto sim when CPR was released? ICR2? N2? Don't think > so. > > > > I thought CPR was pretty much universally dissed? Never played it > > myself, but ICR2 was a damn good sim for it's time - one of the best > > ever. > Which one still has active offline leagues? > dave(hint: the one with a # in the title) henrie

I'm sure there are still people who play that game. They're called 'mental patients'. David G Fisher

> >I'm sure there are still people who play that game. They're called 'mental >patients'. > >David G Fisher >sorry to disagree with you dave. er david, er dgf. i *still* have a copy of ICR2 installed as I just got it working in XP with my MSFF wheel and soundlblaster sound in a fullscreen dosbox. it looks really lame these days, but its where i first saw ovals and tracks like elkhart lake and long beach. its no GTR2002, and i'm not mental!!! (well, maybe just a bit). Enjoy your festive season folks! Regards all, istoff

David Horrocks wrote; >but ICR2 was a damn good sim for it's time - one of the best ever. As I remember it, you could tweak the rollbars and the brake bias while driving, via the keyboard, to compensate for the changing weight balance as the fuel ran down. I haven't seen that since. Tom

That's because nobody's done a CART sim! since... ;-) SB "TToommLL" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> As I remember it, you could tweak the rollbars and > the brake bias while driving, via the keyboard, to > compensate for the changing weight balance as > the fuel ran down. I haven't seen that since. > > Tom > > >

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> David Horrocks wrote; > >but ICR2 was a damn good sim for it's time - one of the best ever. > > > As I remember it, you could tweak the rollbars and > the brake bias while driving, via the keyboard, to > compensate for the changing weight balance as > the fuel ran down. I haven't seen that since. > > Tom >

And you could adjust the turbo boost pressure to conserve fuel. They changed this later (the engine manufactuerers) to make changes in the fuel mapping, rather than mess with the boost. This is still available, although it's not as sucessful a strategy to cruise and conserve fuel since the league mandated pitstops within certain windows. However they can still change the engine mapping on the fly to deliver different torque patterns...i.e. a higher rpm peak horsepower, or a more torquey power curve that improves engine braking. And I'm assuming they still have the 'power button' which will, for a short period, overide the engine safety settings. Michael Andretti lost track of his downshifts at a race near the end of the season and ended up waaay over-revving the Honda powerplant. He was very coy about how far the engine rev'ed. He alluded to Honda would be very unhappy if he told the TV crew just how high that package could rev and survive. dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02

David G Fisher wrote:

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> > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > David G Fisher wrote: > > > > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > Michael Wollenschein wrote: > > > > > > It´s definetly released. > > > > > > Saw it in a store last Wednesday here in Germany! > > > > Hey Michael, gave it the ol body swerve, did you? :) > > > > Cheers > > > > Gerry > > > > If that's your recommendation, then I'm sure it's the best sim yet. > > > > David G Fisher > > Were you on r.a.s. back then Gerry? Don't remember you then. Why don't you > confine yourself to debates which you were actually around to be part of. > What was a better auto sim when CPR was released? ICR2? N2? Don't think so. > > BTW Gerry, because of my analysis of CPR and another racing game which I > beta tested with him, I was picked by the developer of VROC to beta test > that along with about a dozen other guys long, long before you ever got a > chance to make it your girlfriend. Apparently he respected my opinions a lot > more than you do. He then had me test a few more racing games for him when > he moved on and took a job as a racing game developer. > > Does it bother you Gerry that I was one of the beta testers of your beloved > VROC? > > Bet it does. Think of me every time you fire it up. > > David G Fisher

I truly couldn't give a flying fuck, Dave! Merry Xmas Gerry