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Papyrus Article in PC Gamer

45 posts by 15 people · 15 Dec 2002 19:01 UTC - 05 Jan 2003 21:33 UTC

PC Gamer article profiling Papyrus

A poster mentioned Andy Mahood's PC Gamer column profiling Papyrus, which gave no firm news about the post-NR2003 project but suggested a multi-platform racing title. Scans were posted on Sierra's registration-only forum, which annoyed several readers. The thread drifted into banter about the mhogaming newsgroup and American football.

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rcmrcm 15 Dec 2002 19:01 UTC#85614
Andy Mahood's sim column in the latestPC Gamer magazine has an article about Papyrus complete with photographs of the staff. No definite news about their next project after N2003, but several references to this group's commitment to car racing.
and commitment to the pc. pez "rcmrcm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Andy Mahood's sim column in the latestPC Gamer magazine has an article > about Papyrus complete with photographs of the staff. No definite > news about their next project after N2003, but several references to > this group's commitment to car racing.
"rcmrcm" wrote... > Andy Mahood's sim column in the latest PC Gamer > magazine has an article about Papyrus complete > with photographs of the staff. No definite > news about their next project after N2003, but > several references to this group's commitment > to car racing. December, "X-mas" or even January 03 issue? Jan. =---
there are scans of the article up on the n2002 forum at the sierra.com boards. pez "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lU8L9.52805$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> "rcmrcm" wrote... > > Andy Mahood's sim column in the latest PC Gamer > > magazine has an article about Papyrus complete > > with photographs of the staff. No definite > > news about their next project after N2003, but > > several references to this group's commitment > > to car racing. > > December, "X-mas" or even January 03 issue? > > Jan. > =--- > > >
"Alex 'pez' Porazinski" wrote... > there are scans of the article up on the n2002 forum > at the sierra.com boards. Eh... link? 'coz either I'm at the wrong N2002 sierra.com forums or there is *zero* mention of a PC Gamer article in any of the sub-forums. Jan. =---
I found it right away. Inside the n2k2 forum. The Sierra bbs system truncates the thread, once you find the thread you have to hit a linked hyperthread to see all of the messages, and then you'll come across the jpgs of the article. Fairly lacking in any real information, which is VERY TYPICAL of Papyrus. dave henrie (and I don't mean that in a bad way...it just is) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 03:16:34 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Fairly lacking in any real information, which is VERY TYPICAL of Papyrus. >dave henrie > >(and I don't mean that in a bad way...it just is) Well, first it's not a press release, so don't blame them for the content. =) Second, it makes it clear that their next project will be released for multiple platforms including the PC and will be racing oriented. I've felt this way since reading their initial press release a few months ago, but at least having that information written in plain, simple language will get the "papy is abandoning the PC and sim racing" crowd to pipe down. Jason
"Rich8" wrote... > the link > <snip> Thanks, now I see the problem. One needs to be registered and logged in in order to browse the general discussion forum.<sigh> I'll do the "Yes, please spam the heck out of my e-mail account."-thing later. Jan. =---
"MadDAWG" wrote... > If you want they are posted in news.mhogaming.com > general discussion group. Its a wild place so be > warned. Hmmm... how many Aussies in there? Jan. =---
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 03:16:34 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)> I found it right away. Inside the n2k2 forum. The Sierra bbs system >truncates the thread, once you find the thread you have to hit a linked >hyperthread to see all of the messages, and then you'll come across the jpgs >of the article. >Fairly lacking in any real information, which is VERY TYPICAL of Papyrus. >dave henrie > >(and I don't mean that in a bad way...it just is)
I need some glasses I think, I really can't find the link.. in which n2002 forum is it, in 'multiplayer discussions', 'setup&track discussion', painting discussion, technical support or league discussion? Andre
"Andre Warringa" wrote... > I need some glasses I think, I really can't find > the link.. in which n2002 forum is it, in > 'multiplayer discussions', 'setup&track discussion', > painting discussion, technical support or league > discussion? General discussion, you need to log in first. Jan. =---
Jan Verschueren wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> > "MadDAWG" wrote... > > One if you are. lol > > I'm Belgian. > > Let's check this bad-ass group out.
Jan was a nice chap really, I'll miss him a lot, one trip over there and people just aren't the same when they come back Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
"Goy Larsen" wrote... > <snip> > Jan was a nice chap really, I'll miss him a lot, one > trip over there and people just aren't the same when > they come back I don't feel any different for having been there. If it's a wolf, it's definately wearing it's sheepskin coat at the moment. It'll take more than a couple scantily clad models, some references to American sports and politics (both of which I know very little about) and some general banter to phase me. That said, I haven't tried posting yet (didn't find a subject I had anything to say on), but I doubt if, should things hot up, I can really spend the time arguing an ever more futile point these days. I'll keep an eye on it. I have survived the horrors of the CLS based Vegeserver, and, indeed have emerged a different person from that experience, but that was even before I posted much on RAS. Jan. =---
>"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > But we have Base instead..... Ew ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
>"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote > I have survived the horrors of the CLS based Vegeserver, and, indeed have > emerged a different person from that experience, but that was even beforeI > posted much on RAS. Exactly. If people had knew what the Vegeserver was, they would know MHO is just little stuff ;))) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
"ymenard" wrote... > > <snip> > > Exactly. If people had knew what the Vegeserver was, > they would know MHO is just little stuff ;))) Ah... the memories. We were young and stupid then.... well... I was anyway. ;-) Jan. =---
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:27:40 GMT, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote: >General discussion, you need to log in first. > >Jan. >=--- And I can't use that hotmail account I especially created for this spam-crap..Oh well, found it at least :) Andre
Jan Verschueren wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)> > I don't feel any different for having been there. If it's a wolf, it's > definately wearing it's sheepskin coat at the moment. It'll take more than a > couple scantily clad models, some references to American sports and politics > (both of which I know very little about) and some general banter to phase > me. That said, I haven't tried posting yet (didn't find a subject I had > anything to say on), but I doubt if, should things hot up, I can really > spend the time arguing an ever more futile point these days. I'll keep an > eye on it. > > I have survived the horrors of the CLS based Vegeserver, and, indeed have > emerged a different person from that experience, but that was even before I > posted much on RAS.
It'll show up sooner or later Jan, you're doomed now, just like the rest of us who frequent that NG, it's a frigging jungle and I wonder why I keep going back there :-), those pics may have something to do with it of course but there must be something else too....:-) You missed the great "smoking causes cancer - no it doesn't cause Rush says so" debate though, that was enjoyable, so was he "evolution vs creation" debate, just about the only amusing thing going on right now is the infamous "incomplete pass" ruling in some NFL (Football) game that seems to have happened about a year ago (don't ask as I don't have a clue), the only thing you won't find much info about in there is sim racing, not bad for a bunch of sim heads :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Quoted text (8 lines)>"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > You missed the great "smoking causes cancer - no it doesn't cause Rush > says so" debate though, that was enjoyable, so was he "evolution vs > creation" debate, just about the only amusing thing going on right now > is the infamous "incomplete pass" ruling in some NFL (Football) game > that seems to have happened about a year ago (don't ask as I don't have > a clue), the only thing you won't find much info about in there is sim > racing, not bad for a bunch of sim heads :-)
The server keeps all the messages (well up to when it started being back up again) so anybody can check out those "marvellous" debates almost worth the Darwin award :) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FZJL9.55948$[email hidden]... > "ymenard" wrote... > > Exactly. If people had knew what the Vegeserver was, > > they would know MHO is just little stuff ;))) > > Ah... the memories. We were young and stupid then.... well... I wasanyway. some of us were young.... though old timer Bruce Kenewell was last seen with a fuzzy pink Energizer bunny ... lapping Mosport in a Brabham. Hey, I wonder if that UFO in the garage ever came in use? doktorB
doktorB wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)> > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FZJL9.55948$[email hidden]... > > "ymenard" wrote... > > > Exactly. If people had knew what the Vegeserver was, > > > they would know MHO is just little stuff ;))) > > > > Ah... the memories. We were young and stupid then.... well... I was > anyway. > > some of us were young.... though old timer Bruce Kenewell was last seen with > a fuzzy pink Energizer bunny ... lapping Mosport in a Brabham. > Hey, I wonder if that UFO in the garage ever came in use?
Bruce K was born old...... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--
Nick 18 Dec 2002 22:09 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen#85316
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > just about the only amusing thing going on right now > is the infamous "incomplete pass" ruling in some NFL (Football) game > that seems to have happened about a year ago (don't ask as I don't have > a clue) No idea, but I guess this would be the NE - OAK Playoff game. Did he throw it or fumble it?
Goy Larsen 19 Dec 2002 22:32 UTC↳ reply to Nick#85318
Nick wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > just about the only amusing thing going on right now > > is the infamous "incomplete pass" ruling in some NFL (Football) game > > that seems to have happened about a year ago (don't ask as I don't have > > a clue) > > No idea, but I guess this would be the NE - OAK Playoff game. Did he throw > it or fumble it?
Now, there you lose me straight away, they talk about a football game and they argue whether the he threw it or just tucked it under his arm straight away, or something FOOTball game......Americans Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> > > Nick wrote: > > > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > just about the only amusing thing going on right now > > > is the infamous "incomplete pass" ruling in some NFL (Football) game > > > that seems to have happened about a year ago (don't ask as I don't
have > > > a clue) > > > > No idea, but I guess this would be the NE - OAK Playoff game. Did hethrow
Quoted text (8 lines)> > it or fumble it? > > Now, there you lose me straight away, they talk about a football game > and they argue whether the he threw it or just tucked it under his arm > straight away, or something > > FOOTball game......Americans >
At least in FOOTball the ball does frequently touch the foot. In BASEball it's an extremely rare occurance when the ball touches a base.
"Mike White" > At least in FOOTball the ball does frequently touch the foot. In BASEball > it's an extremely rare occurance when the ball touches a base. > Soooooooo.....where does that put Handball???? dave (did I just say that?) henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02
Yeah, I passed too. I'm tired of having to create accounts and 'log in' just to read a damned article and it's got to interest me a WHOLE lot more than this for me to bother. -Larry "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cOfL9.53042$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> "Rich8" wrote... > > the link > > <snip> > > Thanks, now I see the problem. One needs to be registered and logged in in > order to browse the general discussion forum.<sigh> > > I'll do the "Yes, please spam the heck out of my e-mail account."-thing > later. > > Jan. > =--- > >
Dave Henrie wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> > "Mike White" > > At least in FOOTball the ball does frequently touch the foot. In BASEball > > it's an extremely rare occurance when the ball touches a base. > > > Soooooooo.....where does that put Handball???? > dave (did I just say that?) henrie
Classic !!! Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Mike White wrote:
Quoted text (28 lines)> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Nick wrote: > > > > > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > just about the only amusing thing going on right now > > > > is the infamous "incomplete pass" ruling in some NFL (Football) game > > > > that seems to have happened about a year ago (don't ask as I don't > have > > > > a clue) > > > > > > No idea, but I guess this would be the NE - OAK Playoff game. Did he > throw > > > it or fumble it? > > > > Now, there you lose me straight away, they talk about a football game > > and they argue whether the he threw it or just tucked it under his arm > > straight away, or something > > > > FOOTball game......Americans > > > > At least in FOOTball the ball does frequently touch the foot. In BASEball > it's an extremely rare occurance when the ball touches a base.
Shut up you damn liberal.....(hope this is the right MW :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> > > Mike White wrote: > > > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > Nick wrote: > > > > > > > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > just about the only amusing thing going on right now > > > > > is the infamous "incomplete pass" ruling in some NFL (Football)
game
Quoted text (16 lines)> > > > > that seems to have happened about a year ago (don't ask as I don't > > have > > > > > a clue) > > > > > > > > No idea, but I guess this would be the NE - OAK Playoff game. Did he > > throw > > > > it or fumble it? > > > > > > Now, there you lose me straight away, they talk about a football game > > > and they argue whether the he threw it or just tucked it under his arm > > > straight away, or something > > > > > > FOOTball game......Americans > > > > > > > At least in FOOTball the ball does frequently touch the foot. In
BASEball > > it's an extremely rare occurance when the ball touches a base. > > Shut up you damn liberal.....(hope this is the right MW :-) > Don't make me go Ramsden on your ass :)
Mike White wrote: > > Don't make me go Ramsden on your ass :) ROFL, long time no see Mike, do you get any racing done these days ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Nick 21 Dec 2002 00:55 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen#85130
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Nick wrote: > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > just about the only amusing thing going on right now > > > is the infamous "incomplete pass" ruling in some NFL (Football) game > > > that seems to have happened about a year ago (don't ask as I don'thave > > > a clue) > > > > No idea, but I guess this would be the NE - OAK Playoff game. Did hethrow > > it or fumble it? > > Now, there you lose me straight away, they talk about a football game > and they argue whether the he threw it or just tucked it under his arm > straight away, or something Yeah, he had the ball up over his shoulder, *about* to throw it, and he got hit. The ball fell to the ground, and the defense recovered the ball. If they ruled that he was in the motion of passing the ball, then it is an incomplete pass, and the offence retain possession. If however, they ruled that he wasn't in the motion of passing the ball, merely holding the ball above his head in preparation of throwing it, then it is a fumble, and the defense get possession. I can't remember which way around it was, but I think it was New England Patriots on offense, right at the end of the game, 3 points down, and if it was a fumble then the Oakland Raiders effectively won the game, but the officials went with the incomplete pass, New England kicked a late field goal to take the game to overtime and then went on to win it. It was the AFC Championship game, meaning the winner goes to the Superbowl, and the New England Patriots went on to beat my beloved St. Louis Rams with a cheeky b*stard field goal with the last play of the game, after we had come back from 14 points down, too. > FOOTball game......AmericansRugby Football is predominantly played using the hands, too. And, ironically, England are the best in the world at rugby, while we are about 6th best at *Foot*ball, our national sport. Nick.
In article <wZNM9.3137$[email hidden]>, "Mike White" <[email hidden]> writes: >Don't make me go Ramsden on your ass :) Rammstein?<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett (check out my e-bay auctions) GPLRank:-0.098 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> > > Mike White wrote: > > > > Don't make me go Ramsden on your ass :) > > ROFL, long time no see Mike, do you get any racing done these days ? > >
Just some LAN racing with a local group. It's nice to be able to swear at someone as they cut you off and know they heard you.
Mike White wrote:
Quoted text (15 lines)> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Mike White wrote: > > > > > > Don't make me go Ramsden on your ass :) > > > > ROFL, long time no see Mike, do you get any racing done these days ? > > > > > > Just some LAN racing with a local group. It's nice to be able to swear at > someone as they cut you off and know they heard you.
LOLOL, in that case I know it's not run by David McCall, no swearing at his LAN's :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--
Goy Larsen 21 Dec 2002 22:15 UTC↳ reply to Nick#85135
Nick wrote:
Quoted text (16 lines)> > Yeah, he had the ball up over his shoulder, *about* to throw it, and he got > hit. The ball fell to the ground, and the defense recovered the ball. If > they ruled that he was in the motion of passing the ball, then it is an > incomplete pass, and the offence retain possession. If however, they ruled > that he wasn't in the motion of passing the ball, merely holding the ball > above his head in preparation of throwing it, then it is a fumble, and the > defense get possession. I can't remember which way around it was, but I > think it was New England Patriots on offense, right at the end of the game, > 3 points down, and if it was a fumble then the Oakland Raiders effectively > won the game, but the officials went with the incomplete pass, New England > kicked a late field goal to take the game to overtime and then went on to > win it. It was the AFC Championship game, meaning the winner goes to the > Superbowl, and the New England Patriots went on to beat my beloved St. Louis > Rams with a cheeky b*stard field goal with the last play of the game, after > we had come back from 14 points down, too.
That about sums it up I guess, I still think watching American Football is as exciting as watching my car rust, and I've had several old Opel's so I know what I'm talking about there....:-) > > FOOTball game......Americans > Rugby Football is predominantly played using the hands, too. And, > ironically, England are the best in the world at rugby, while we are about > 6th best at *Foot*ball, our national sport. What can you expect, your footy series' best players these days are all furreiners There's nothing wrong with having a few imports to strengthen your team, but in teams like Arsenal (I love the Gunners), the home grown players are just filling in the spots for which they can't afford to import someone, it may or may not be good for the clubs in question, but it surely isn't good for national teams, the only way to be really good at something, and we're talking about world class here, is to play for the best teams Hell, you guys are so desperate to bring in furreiners you're even importing Norwegians, whoever gave you guys the idea we knew anything about football ? Except for the fact that we kicked your ass a couple of times when Egil "Drillo" Olsen managed the national team of course :-), but if you ask the Wimbledon fans I'm not sure they all agree that he was such a great coach, football is a weird game sometimes Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
>"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > LOLOL, in that case I know it's not run by David McCall, no swearing at > his LAN's :-) Ask David, he heard me lunch a bunch of French swears at the Albany LAN yet he never understood what the heck I was talking about ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4ReN9.4$[email hidden]... > >"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > > LOLOL, in that case I know it's not run by David McCall, no swearing at > > his LAN's :-) > > > Ask David, he heard me lunch a bunch of French swears at the Albany LANyet > he never understood what the heck I was talking about ;) > The same can be said for your English :)
Mike White wrote:
Quoted text (14 lines)> > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4ReN9.4$[email hidden]... > > >"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > LOLOL, in that case I know it's not run by David McCall, no swearing at > > > his LAN's :-) > > > > > > Ask David, he heard me lunch a bunch of French swears at the Albany LAN > yet > > he never understood what the heck I was talking about ;) > > > > The same can be said for your English :)
Ouch...... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Nick 05 Jan 2003 21:33 UTC↳ reply to Goy Larsen#83360
Quoted text (7 lines)> There's nothing wrong with having a few imports to strengthen your team, > but in teams like Arsenal (I love the Gunners), the home grown players > are just filling in the spots for which they can't afford to import > someone, it may or may not be good for the clubs in question, but it > surely isn't good for national teams, the only way to be really good at > something, and we're talking about world class here, is to play for the > best teams
Well, that's strange... I am a huge Arsenal fan, but I wouldn't call Sol Campbell, Ashley Cole and David Seaman 'spot-fillers'. Romford Pele himself, Ray Parlour, maybe... I think it's more to do with the fact that England soccer/footballers aren't very good, compared to Brazilian, Argentinian, Italian, Spanish, French et al. But then with absolute legends like Thierry Henry, Robert Pires, Freddy Ljungberg, Dennis Bergkamp, Patrick Vieira, I can see where you are coming from. If foreign talent like that is what it takes to win the 01/02 Double, and hopefully more in 02/03, then it is only better for the club, especially if they play football as beautifully as we do (none of that long ball shit used by Liverpool and even ManYoo on occasion). But hey, nice to hear from another Gunner anytime! Nick.

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