http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20
Dunno if it will help but....
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The first ever pinball ezboard !!
http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball
SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL
FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS
BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N
SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON
WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY
DirectX 9 released: install or wait?
Txl announced the release of DirectX 9. Some installed it without problems in GPL, NR2002 and F1 2002, while others advised waiting because it could not easily be uninstalled and offered little without DX9 hardware and games. Complaints about DirectX 8.2 arriving unannounced with Combat Flight Simulator 3 resurfaced, and a third-party uninstaller was mentioned.
tech supporthardware: PC/graphics
Automated summary.
New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :)
I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstall this
thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while.
-Larry
"Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message
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RYL
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> http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > -- > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE -Quoted text (7 lines)
> FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > >well, you're supposed to be able to "tweak" your steering wheel with MUCH
more "power" and therefore improve the SHITTY controller issues in F12001
and the LESS SHITTY in F12002....
But I didn't try it yet because I am finishing a DL before rebooting the
machine....
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The first ever pinball ezboard !!
http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball
SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL
FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS
BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N
SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON
WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY
"Larry" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news:
ynJM9.28691$[email hidden]...
> New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :)
>
> I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstall
this
> thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while.
>
> -Larry
>
> "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message
> news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]...
> > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20
> >
> > Dunno if it will help but....
> >
> > --
> > The first ever pinball ezboard !!
> > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball
> >
> > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE -
> RYL
> > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS
> > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N
> > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON
> > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY
> >
> >
> >
>
>
"Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message
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> http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20
>
> Dunno if it will help but....
One guy from the DX team @ M'soft has said that you'd be mad to install this
on anything other than a spare machine
Doug
Which version would you rather go back to?
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :)
>
> I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstallthis
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> thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while. > > -Larry > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > -- > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - > RYL > > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > > > > > > >Runs fine here with latest ATI Catalysts 3.0 drivers.
"Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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this
> on anything other than a spare machine
>
> Doug
>
>
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> > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > One guy from the DX team @ M'soft has said that you'd be mad to installRuns fine here with latest ATI Catalysts 3.0 drivers.
> > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20
> > Dunno if it will help but....
this
> on anything other than a spare machine
> Doug
Works fine here, not a must have, but no probs either.
Achim
"Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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...
> One guy from the DX team @ M'soft has said that you'd
> be mad to install this on anything other than a spare machine
How many people have 'spare' machines..?
AD
I'll let the others try it first <evil laugh>. If it ain't broke, don't fix
it. And unless there's a real benefit/improvement over the previous version,
it'll stay the way it is on my machine.
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"Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message
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> http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20
>
> Dunno if it will help but....
>
> --
> The first ever pinball ezboard !!
> http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball
>
> SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE -
RYL
> FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS
> BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N
> SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON
> WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY
>
>
>
In article <3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]>, "Txl" <txl AT free.fr>
writes:
>http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20
>
>Dunno if it will help but.
So? :-)
I'm just leery about loading MORE new shit on a machine that's working fine
NOW...
Eldred
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unless you have an ati 9xxx or a gh4 is there any reason to install dx9?
dave henrie
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I would assume you don't need it until you have both a DX9 card and a
DX9 game.
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> unless you have an ati 9xxx or a gh4 is there any reason to installdx9?
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> dave henrie > . > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02 > >"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote...
> I would assume you don't need it until you have both a DX9 card and a DX9game.<
Probably true, but being the danger-seeker that I am, I installed it anyway.
;-)
FWIW, it works fine here on 98SE with a Ti4400 and LWF wheel in GPL, NR2002,
F1-2002 (& assorted mods), and Rally Trophy. Testing actually gave rise to
my first GPL race in many, many moons, so it WAS worth the effort. Got my
arse kicked on VROC, but it was fun chasing around the 'Ring again. Still
can't drive those bloody 60/60 setups in the Lotus though...
SB
> Runs fine here with latest ATI Catalysts 3.0 drivers.
Same here (Radeon 9700). Some people are reporting problems with OpenGL
games tho with the 3.0 drivers.
rms
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Likewise, I'd avoid DX 8.2 as well (it comes--unbidden--with some games like
MS's CFS3). Compatability issues.
"Philster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I'll let the others try it first <evil laugh>. If it ain't broke, don'tfix
> it. And unless there's a real benefit/improvement over the previousversion,
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> it'll stay the way it is on my machine. > > -- > Philippe "Philster" Sergerie > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > -- > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - > RYL > > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > > > > > > >The thing is, if it comes with a game, the game probably requires it for
some new feature that it is using, so you may not have a choice.
"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Likewise, I'd avoid DX 8.2 as well (it comes--unbidden--with somegames like
> MS's CFS3). Compatability issues.
>
Yeah, 8.2 came with CFS3, but after I installed it, several other games
*stopped* working. If I had known how bad CFS3 was/is, I never would have
bothered. I guess what pisses me off the most is that CFS installed it w/o
even telling the FDU (that's me) that it was installing 8.2, not 8.1a or
b...not that I knew to avoid 8.2 then (I only found out what a loser it is
afterwards, reading the newsgroups...which--I know, I know--I shoulda done
*beforehand*!).
OTOH, DX9 is going to be a must-have for almost any game released from now
on. I already have a voluminous collection of 9-only demos.
"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> The thing is, if it comes with a game, the game probably requires it for > some new feature that it is using, so you may not have a choice. > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:SwZM9.104432$[email hidden]... > > Likewise, I'd avoid DX 8.2 as well (it comes--unbidden--with some > games like > > MS's CFS3). Compatability issues. > > >I gave it a go on Win2k, with a Gf4 4200 (128Mb), SB live 5.1 & VIA 686B
chipset mobo.
Gpl works just fine (OpenGL), no the sound issue is not fixed, I tried
putting the acceleration up to full, then normal, neither worked properly,
so it's back on low again same as before. I never had any noticeable
crackling, so I can't really say whether that's improved or not.
Viper Racing (D3D) works just as well as it did before too.
No install problems, no incompatible drivers, although it shows my nVidia
41.09 drivers as not certified. I thought they were but so what at the end
of the day.
It's fine, but I can't find any significant changes except for the little
midi tune dxdiag plays ;-)
I wasn't really expecting any though, but at least it works!
Malc.
Malc,
I hope & trust yer referring ("it") to DX9 not the heinous DX8.2, rite?
--Steve
"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I gave it a go on Win2k, with a Gf4 4200 (128Mb), SB live 5.1 & VIA 686B > chipset mobo. > > Gpl works just fine (OpenGL), no the sound issue is not fixed, I tried > putting the acceleration up to full, then normal, neither worked properly, > so it's back on low again same as before. I never had any noticeable > crackling, so I can't really say whether that's improved or not. > > Viper Racing (D3D) works just as well as it did before too. > > No install problems, no incompatible drivers, although it shows my nVidia > 41.09 drivers as not certified. I thought they were but so what at the end > of the day. > > It's fine, but I can't find any significant changes except for the little > midi tune dxdiag plays ;-) > > I wasn't really expecting any though, but at least it works! > > Malc. > > >"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Malc,
>
> I hope & trust yer referring ("it") to DX9 not the heinous DX8.2, rite?
Yes. The Subject says it all, really ;-)
Malc.
No problem with uninstalling if you create a restore point in XP first. I
have been using the betas from ATI for several weeks and no trouble
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :)
>
> I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstallthis
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> thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while. > > -Larry > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > -- > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - > RYL > > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > > > > > > >On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 21:10:18 GMT, Steve Smith wrote:
Agreed, Steve. My son brought home MechWarrior 3 today which he
picked up in the bargain bin, and it conviniently offered to
install DX 6.0 as the installed version (8.1) wasnt new enough.
How cool is that? ;-)
Cheers,
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> Yeah, 8.2 came with CFS3, but after I installed it, several other games > *stopped* working. If I had known how bad CFS3 was/is, I never would have > bothered. I guess what pisses me off the most is that CFS installed it w/o > even telling the FDU (that's me) that it was installing 8.2, not 8.1a or > b...not that I knew to avoid 8.2 then (I only found out what a loser it is > afterwards, reading the newsgroups...which--I know, I know--I shoulda done > *beforehand*!).Yes, but everything else you 've done will also be erradicated if you use
system restore.
System Restore was never intended to be used as a standard software
uninstaller. It suprises me not that Microsoft themselves are the first to
require it to uninstall certain products. Sheesh...
-Larry
"Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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DARE -
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> No problem with uninstalling if you create a restore point in XP first. I > have been using the betas from ATI for several weeks and no trouble > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ynJM9.28691$[email hidden]... > > New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :) > > > > I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstall > this > > thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while. > > > > -Larry > > > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > > > -- > > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLSQuoted text (12 lines)
> > RYL > > > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > > > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > > > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > > > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >It can be used to create a restore point easily before installing any new
drivers/software.
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Yes, but everything else you 've done will also be erradicated if you use
> system restore.
>
> System Restore was never intended to be used as a standard software
> uninstaller. It suprises me not that Microsoft themselves are the firstto
> require it to uninstall certain products. Sheesh...
>
> -Larry
There is a DX9 uninstaller prog out there. Can't remember the url, but just
type 'dx9 uninstall' into Google.
It worked for me.
Iain
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Yes, but everything else you 've done will also be erradicated if you use
> system restore.
>
> System Restore was never intended to be used as a standard software
> uninstaller. It suprises me not that Microsoft themselves are the firstto
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> require it to uninstall certain products. Sheesh... > > -Larry > > "Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:lzoN9.64075$[email hidden]... > > No problem with uninstalling if you create a restore point in XP first.Quoted text (26 lines)
> > have been using the betas from ATI for several weeks and no trouble > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ynJM9.28691$[email hidden]... > > > New DirectX versions are not always a good thing :) > > > > > > I usually don't mind being a Guinea Pig, but since you can't uninstall > > this > > > thing, I'll sit back and watch the show for a while. > > > > > > -Larry > > > > > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > > > news:3e034e36$0$1524$[email hidden]... > > > > http://www.nvchips-fr.com/download/downloads.php?Category=20 > > > > > > > > Dunno if it will help but.... > > > > > > > > -- > > > > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > > > > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > > > > > > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS > DARE - > > > RYL > > > > FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > > > > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKESQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > > > > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >No shit.
:)
-Larry
"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It can be used to create a restore point easily before installing any new
> drivers/software.
>
> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:vqLN9.47567$[email hidden]...
> > Yes, but everything else you 've done will also be erradicated if youuse
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> > system restore. > > > > System Restore was never intended to be used as a standard software > > uninstaller. It suprises me not that Microsoft themselves are the first > to > > require it to uninstall certain products. Sheesh... > > > > -Larry > >The link for it is on www.hardocp.com
-Larry
"Iain Mackenzie" <none> wrote in message
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> There is a DX9 uninstaller prog out there. Can't remember the url, butjust
use
first.
uninstall
WARS
> > > > > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 -STRKES


































