OT: anyone seen a ti4200 vs ati 9500 direct comparison?

I'm trying to find out where the two cards stand in relation to each other. Can't find much that directly compares them. Anyone see anything? dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02

Here is a link to a comparison between the 9700, 9500, 9500Pro and a Ti4600. The Ti4200 is supposed to be about 10% less performance than the Ti4600. Of course the Ti4200 can be overclocked to near the Ti4600 specs, so this review may be close. Glen "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lD5P9.474492$WL3.125384@rwcrnsc54...

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> I'm trying to find out where the two cards stand in relation to each > other. Can't find much that directly compares them. Anyone see anything? > dave henrie > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02 > >

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:lD5P9.474492$WL3.125384@rwcrnsc54... > I'm trying to find out where the two cards stand in relation to each > other. Can't find much that directly compares them. Anyone see anything? http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20021218/vgacharts-05.html Bye, Leo

Correction: The 9500 is not reviewed, just the 9500Pro. "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Here is a link to a comparison between the 9700, 9500, 9500Pro and aTi4600. > The Ti4200 is supposed to be about 10% less performance than the Ti4600.Of

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> course the Ti4200 can be overclocked to near the Ti4600 specs, so this > review may be close. > > Glen > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:lD5P9.474492$WL3.125384@rwcrnsc54... > > I'm trying to find out where the two cards stand in relation to each > > other. Can't find much that directly compares them. Anyone see

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> > dave henrie > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02 > > > > > >

That should cover it...LOL I don't think I have ever ran across a review that covered that many options at one time. Great review. Glen "Leo Landman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:auiplu$bg1$[email hidden]... > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht > news:lD5P9.474492$WL3.125384@rwcrnsc54... > > > I'm trying to find out where the two cards stand in relation to each > > other. Can't find much that directly compares them. Anyone seeanything?

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> > http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20021218/vgacharts-05.html > > Bye, > Leo > >

Dave Henrie wrote: > > I'm trying to find out where the two cards stand in relation to each > other. Can't find much that directly compares them. Anyone see anything? > dave henrie Just a guess, but you might find this interesting...:-) http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1756 Btw, once you start to turn up the resolution and turn on AA, this card does not compete with the 4200...... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

This might be useful: "ATI RADEON 9500, RADEON 9500 PRO, RADEON 9700 vs. NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti4200 and GeForce4 Ti4600" http://www.xbitlabs.com/video/radeon9500-9700/ "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lD5P9.474492$WL3.125384@rwcrnsc54...

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> I'm trying to find out where the two cards stand in relation to each > other. Can't find much that directly compares them. Anyone see anything? > dave henrie > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02 > >

> Dave Henrie wrote: And this... http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20021202/index.html Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

To quote Anand's review of the 9500 Pro: " Thanks to an improved driver, new board design with an optimized layout and a full 128MB of memory the [ATI 9500 Pro] is able to compete with the GeForce4 Ti 4600 instead of being just barely faster than the Ti 4200." "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > I'm trying to find out where the two cards stand in relation to each > > other. Can't find much that directly compares them. Anyone seeanything?

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> > dave henrie > > Just a guess, but you might find this interesting...:-) > > http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1756 > > Btw, once you start to turn up the resolution and turn on AA, this card > does not compete with the 4200...... > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > I'm trying to find out where the two cards stand in relation to each > > other. Can't find much that directly compares them. Anyone seeanything?

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> > dave henrie > > Just a guess, but you might find this interesting...:-) > > http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1756 > > Btw, once you start to turn up the resolution and turn on AA, this card > does not compete with the 4200...... > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy

The two tests kinda contradict each other. I wonder if the Tom's Hardware test was done with updated drivers? Even the anatech site used 2.x drivers, aren't the 3.x out? Basically Toms says the 4200 & 9500pro are very close. Anatech says that (at least up to 1280 screen rez's) the 9500pro is faster. hmmm. dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02

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> > The two tests kinda contradict each other. I wonder if the Tom's Hardware > test was done with updated drivers? Even the anatech site used 2.x drivers, > aren't the 3.x out? > Basically Toms says the 4200 & 9500pro are very close. Anatech says that > (at least up to 1280 screen rez's) the 9500pro is faster. hmmm. > dave henrie

Not quite sure I follow you Dave, I only browsed through both articles just now and thought I saw roughly the same pattern in the tests, the 9500 PRO settling nicely in between the 4200 and the 4600 in "regular" tests, turn on FSAA and Aniso and it blows them away, am I missing something here ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

If this review was done in November then I would guess they used Cat2.5 and DX81. I noticed a quite a large performance gain using the Catalyst 3's + DX9 on a 9700 so I would assume similar on all the ATI parts. Beeeutifus ;) Mitch "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cx6P9.476223$%[email hidden]...

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> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to find out where the two cards stand in relation to each > > > other. Can't find much that directly compares them. Anyone see > anything? > > > dave henrie > > > > Just a guess, but you might find this interesting...:-) > > > > http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1756 > > > > Btw, once you start to turn up the resolution and turn on AA, this card > > does not compete with the 4200...... > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > The two tests kinda contradict each other. I wonder if the Tom's

Hardware > test was done with updated drivers? Even the anatech site used 2.xdrivers, > aren't the 3.x out? > Basically Toms says the 4200 & 9500pro are very close. Anatech saysthat

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> (at least up to 1280 screen rez's) the 9500pro is faster. hmmm. > dave henrie > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02 > >

Dave check out the Albatron Ti 4200p turbo. Its built with 3.3ns ddr ram and has alot of Ti4600 features. Best of all it's about $175.00.

I don't see that much performance difference between $200 G4 variant and a 9500 Pro except the latter's support of DX9. To GPL fanatics, this means nothing, but if yer planning on buying a lotta new games this year, you'll prolly want the Radeon for DX9-only games like Metal Gear Solid and (ugh!) Bloodrayne. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cx6P9.476223$%[email hidden]...

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> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to find out where the two cards stand in relation to each > > > other. Can't find much that directly compares them. Anyone see > anything? > > > dave henrie > > > > Just a guess, but you might find this interesting...:-) > > > > http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1756 > > > > Btw, once you start to turn up the resolution and turn on AA, this card > > does not compete with the 4200...... > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > The two tests kinda contradict each other. I wonder if the Tom's

Hardware > test was done with updated drivers? Even the anatech site used 2.xdrivers, > aren't the 3.x out? > Basically Toms says the 4200 & 9500pro are very close. Anatech saysthat

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> (at least up to 1280 screen rez's) the 9500pro is faster. hmmm. > dave henrie > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02 > >

Here's another factory hot-rod (the Abit Siluro GF4 Ti4200-8X OTES): http://nexushardware.com/reviews/index.php?reviewnumber=29 "Mike Portnoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YoaP9.58199$[email hidden]... > Dave check out the Albatron Ti 4200p turbo. Its built with 3.3ns ddr ramand > has alot of Ti4600 features. Best of all it's about $175.00. > >