Attn : Tony Jester

Can you reply to this for me please. Correct anything i have wrong.. You have a new MS Precision USB wheel. It has not got a CD with it. It loads into your Win XP as a wheel but doesnt give you the option to change to split axis. You had trouble making it work with GPL but my tip cured that but still you cant get it to work with GTR 2002. You have downloaded Laguna for F1 2002 but put it in the Seasons folder instead of the Seasons/Tracks folder but when you see our reply that will be sorted.:) Here is my angle on this :- 1.MS Precision USB wheel ships with the 3.02 software in the UK as standard. 2.The 3.02 software is downloadable. 3.The 3.02 software has more problems with Win XP than the later version software 4.0. 4.The 4.0 software like the 3.02 software causes Win XP to emit a churlish 'incompatible' cry upon installation,but the fearless and the brave warriors of the past 'ignored' this and barrelled head first into XP oblivion and surprisingly came out unscathed and able to 'talk' after the event.Tales of apparent success filled the forums,others complained of non operative functions ,but take heed that the screen didnt go blue and the words appear that delight the scared...... "..Your attempt to install that Microsoft product,namely 3.02 version software of the Precision wheel has caused a total wiping of your hard drive,all you had is gone,all you saved is lost,all you cherished has disappeared.Windows will now restart the computer,but when it does you won't have an operating system,please make provision to replace this one and in future do not be stupid enough to pass our warnings of incompatiblity.....EVER..!!.." So as you may have realised nothing is logical in computer land,nothing is ever the same thing twice even though it is to us,if it works today there is no guarantee it will work tomorrow,if you have set your wheel up in a certain way now,will it be ok when you switch games....who knows because we don't,none of us... To you Tony Jester....my advice is simple,do whatever you feel is withn your capabilities for future trouble free useage. Here is my opinion. 1.The MS Precision USB wheel can work on Win XP but a novice like yourself is not going to be able to keep doing what is needed to keep it working. 2.The price of the MS Sidewinder FF USB is very low now and a return to the store with receipt and can't get it to work due to the software and o/s conflicts will allow a swap for the better wheel.Then the 4.0 software can be installed and all will be ok,because that is what i have here....Win XP,MS FF usb and v4.0...works perfectly. 3.Do alot of your asking before you purchase because in here is a plethora of knowledge,mostly Roger Squires and Larry (lol) but some others are very impressive too.Take advantage of the guys and what they have experienced,i know i have and have learned alot hence. 4.Good luck :) AD

"Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aumql2$vpk$[email hidden]... > Can you reply to this for me please. Certainly. > Correct anything i have wrong.. Yes, you are wrong on several points. > > You have a new MS Precision USB wheel. > It has not got a CD with it. Wrong. It came with the 4.0 CD. > It loads into your Win XP as a wheel but doesnt give >you the option to>change to split axis. Wrong. It would not load a certain.LID file. This ended up being a defective DVD drive on my machine which I replaced and then everything was fine. > > You had trouble making it work with GPL but my tip cured that but stillyou > cant get it to work with GTR 2002. That is correct. > > You have downloaded Laguna for F1 2002 but put it in the Seasons folder > instead of the Seasons/Tracks folder but when you see our reply that willbe > sorted.:) Wrong. I put both of them into the Seasons/Track folder > > Here is my angle on this :- > > 1.MS Precision USB wheel ships with the 3.02 software in the UK asstandard. Well, that may be true in the UK, but as I said above, *mine* came with the 4.0 <snip> > > To you Tony Jester....my advice is simple,do whatever you feel is withnyour > capabilities for future trouble free useage. > > Here is my opinion. > > 1.The MS Precision USB wheel can work on Win XP but a novice like yourself > is not going to be able to keep doing what is needed to keep it working. Well, I have to take exception to being labeled a "novice". In what are you refering to me as a novice? Computers? Not really. I have been hacking around with computers since the days of CP/M and 8 inch floppy drives. Have you ever even seen and 8 inch floppy, Aidee? I might add also that I am quite accomplished at 80x86 assembly language programming, if that means anything to you. As for sim racing, the farthest I go back is ICR2. I got the GPL demo when that first came out when all we had was Watkins Glen. I was there at The Apex when the first guy broke into the 1:06's, but I can't remember his name at the moment. I was there that very first Friday evening when Alison brought VROC online and raced in one of the very first VROC races. But that was not all that long ago. Does that still make me a novice? > > 2.The price of the MS Sidewinder FF USB is very low now and a return tothe > store with receipt and can't get it to work due to the software and o/s > conflicts will allow a swap for the better wheel.Then the 4.0 software can > be installed and all will be ok,because that is what i have here....Win > XP,MS FF usb and v4.0...works perfectly. Well, I'm glad to at least hear it works. Now I know. But I am not interested in FF. I have no interest in ever owning a FF wheel. Seems like it would be too distracting. I like to go fast. My previous wheel was a TM that I have repaired so many times I have no idea how many pots, pedal springs and bungees I've replaced.

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> >Yea, bu > 3.Do alot of your asking before you purchase because in here is a plethora > of knowledge,mostly Roger Squires and Larry (lol) but some others are very > impressive too.Take advantage of the guys and what they have experienced,i > know i have and have learned alot hence.

Um, I thought that was what I was doing... > > 4.Good luck :) Thanks. -Tony-

You go Tony! "Tony Jester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SDFP9.737$[email hidden]...

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> > "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aumql2$vpk$[email hidden]... > > > Can you reply to this for me please. > > Certainly. > > > Correct anything i have wrong.. > > Yes, you are wrong on several points. > > > > > You have a new MS Precision USB wheel. > > It has not got a CD with it. > > Wrong. It came with the 4.0 CD. > > > It loads into your Win XP as a wheel but doesnt give >you the option to> > change to split axis. > > Wrong. It would not load a certain.LID file. This ended up being a > defective DVD drive on my machine which I replaced and then everything was > fine. > > > > You had trouble making it work with GPL but my tip cured that but still > you > > cant get it to work with GTR 2002. > > That is correct. > > > > > You have downloaded Laguna for F1 2002 but put it in the Seasons folder > > instead of the Seasons/Tracks folder but when you see our reply that

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> be > > sorted.:) > > Wrong. I put both of them into the Seasons/Track folder > > > > > Here is my angle on this :- > > > > 1.MS Precision USB wheel ships with the 3.02 software in the UK as > standard. > > Well, that may be true in the UK, but as I said above, *mine* came with

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> 4.0 > > <snip> > > > > To you Tony Jester....my advice is simple,do whatever you feel is withn > your > > capabilities for future trouble free useage. > > > > Here is my opinion. > > > > 1.The MS Precision USB wheel can work on Win XP but a novice like

yourself > > is not going to be able to keep doing what is needed to keep it working. > > Well, I have to take exception to being labeled a "novice". In what areyou > refering to me as a novice? Computers? Not really. I have been hacking > around with computers since the days of CP/M and 8 inch floppy drives.Have > you ever even seen and 8 inch floppy, Aidee? I might add also that I am > quite accomplished at 80x86 assembly language programming, if that means > anything to you. As for sim racing, the farthest I go back is ICR2. Igot > the GPL demo when that first came out when all we had was Watkins Glen. I > was there at The Apex when the first guy broke into the 1:06's, but Ican't > remember his name at the moment. I was there that very first Fridayevening

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> when Alison brought VROC online and raced in one of the very first VROC > races. But that was not all that long ago. Does that still make me a > novice? > > > > > 2.The price of the MS Sidewinder FF USB is very low now and a return to > the > > store with receipt and can't get it to work due to the software and o/s > > conflicts will allow a swap for the better wheel.Then the 4.0 software

can > > be installed and all will be ok,because that is what i have here....Win > > XP,MS FF usb and v4.0...works perfectly. > > Well, I'm glad to at least hear it works. Now I know. But I am not > interested in FF. I have no interest in ever owning a FF wheel. Seemslike > it would be too distracting. I like to go fast. My previous wheel was aTM > that I have repaired so many times I have no idea how many pots, pedal > springs and bungees I've replaced. > > > > >Yea, bu > > 3.Do alot of your asking before you purchase because in here is aplethora > > of knowledge,mostly Roger Squires and Larry (lol) but some others arevery > > impressive too.Take advantage of the guys and what they haveexperienced,i

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> > know i have and have learned alot hence. > > Um, I thought that was what I was doing... > > > > 4.Good luck :) > > Thanks. > > -Tony- > >

>I was there at The Apex when the first guy broke into the 1:06's, but I can't remember his name at the moment. How about "George Sandman" or "Dave Mansell" but then again it could have been the dreaded "WW" -- Daytona Beach - Winter Speed Carnival 1903 - 1935 1919 - Ralph DePalma Driving Champion and winner of hundreds of races, sets new 1 mile record driving 905 cubic inch V-12 Packard on beach at 149.875 mph. DePalma also sets World Records for distances of 2 to 20 miles and standing mile. His standing mile record of 92.713 mph is unbroken for 36 years.

"REDLINE426" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mrMP9.801$[email hidden]... > >I was there at The Apex when the first guy broke into the 1:06's, but Ican't remember his name at the moment. > > How about "George Sandman" or "Dave Mansell" but then again it could havebeen the dreaded "WW" Right! You remember. Those were the fast guys. But as I recall, it wasn't one of those, it was a British chap whose name I just can't remember. He had his own website. If it comes down to it, I'll have to hunt down the old hard drive that all that stuff is on. I believe I still have the replays from then. -Tony-

OK how about, Jason Rudgard, Chris Blackburn, Adrian Cox or Rick Prydden? Ian Lake is another "Hotshoe" that comes to mind, he's not on the Apex listings to much. Mostly saw his name up on the Schubi Hotlaps or GPL Champions League and he's from New Zealand I believe. heh, I could of been up on that lap board in August of 1999 for the Glen with a 1:07.21 in the GP1 Ferrari just below 3rd place Bjorn Nyhlen's 1:06.23. Remember when no one was driving the Ferrari? Just a sea of green in those days. By the time I was ready to send it in the site was starting to get backed logged with replays and soon went un-maintained then down. Haven't been able to improve much on that time in 3 years, but then again I don't commit much time to racing as I did then. -- Daytona Beach - Winter Speed Carnival 1903 - 1935 1919 - Ralph DePalma Driving Champion and winner of hundreds of races, sets new 1 mile record driving 905 cubic inch V-12 Packard on beach at 149.875 mph. DePalma also sets World Records for distances of 2 to 20 miles and standing mile. His standing mile record of 92.713 mph is unbroken for 36 years.

> heh, I could of been up on that lap board in August of 1999 for the Glen witha 1:07.21 in the GP1 Ferrari A certain Graeme Nash was breaking into the 1:04s in his Ferrari by the time the IGPS circus got to the Glen in early '99. Dave Mansell was the king of the GPL demo on the Apex as I recall. He had his own site at the time - something like "Skunk Racing" or similar.