Help! For F1CS2K/Mac, you diehards...

Well, I hope you old-time diehards could help us Mac users out here... As you might know F1 2000 CS is now out as one of the few race games on the Mac (NR2002 pending). The data files seem much the same, so it should be possible to use several of the PC mods, cars, tracks etc. However, support for this (older) game seem to have dwindled really fast on the Net. (GPL is older and much better supported.) I've been able to find three extra tracks so far (Sebring, Laguna and RAtlanta) and Sebring does indeed work on the Mac, as do setups. But that's about it. I've Googled until my fingers bled, but countless dead links and 'missing files' for this game popped up everywhere. There are some leftovers at bhmotorsports.com, but that's an exception. During my search I read about several tracks and add-ons for this sim and I'd like to try them and report to the Mac community what works; but the trick is to find these files. So, any tracks? Donington seems to have been out for this game, maybe the Indy oval, there seems to have been a CART mod, a Trans-Am mod, several extra cars, maybe a sports car mod, physics patches, etc... Trick is, where? (Note: referring to a link is unneccessary since it's likely stone cold dead, until you've actually been able to download it there yourself in 2003... believe me, I've tried.) Or, does anybody still have these files somewhere and is willing to make them available again? Regards, Ruud

"Ruud Dingemans" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:autlro$kqh$[email hidden]...

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> Well, I hope you old-time diehards could help us Mac users out here... > > As you might know F1 2000 CS is now out as one of the few race games on > the Mac (NR2002 pending). > > The data files seem much the same, so it should be possible to use > several of the PC mods, cars, tracks etc. > > However, support for this (older) game seem to have dwindled really fast > on the Net. (GPL is older and much better supported.)

If there had been a GPL CS, A GPL 70's, and A GPL 80's then most likely there would be very little support for GPL as well. It's still got an active user base because it hasn't been replaced. F1 2k is greatly inferior to F1 2k2 so there is little reason for that title to still have an active user base. I've been able to

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> find three extra tracks so far (Sebring, Laguna and RAtlanta) and > Sebring does indeed work on the Mac, as do setups. > > But that's about it. > > I've Googled until my fingers bled, but countless dead links and > 'missing files' for this game popped up everywhere. There are some > leftovers at bhmotorsports.com, but that's an exception. During my > search I read about several tracks and add-ons for this sim and I'd like > to try them and report to the Mac community what works; but the trick is > to find these files. > > So, any tracks? Donington seems to have been out for this game, maybe > the Indy oval, there seems to have been a CART mod, a Trans-Am mod, > several extra cars, maybe a sports car mod, physics patches, etc... > Trick is, where? (Note: referring to a link is unneccessary since it's > likely stone cold dead, until you've actually been able to download it > there yourself in 2003... believe me, I've tried.)

Most of the modding began with F1 2k1. There was a CARt mod for 2k or 2kcs I think, but I don't remember too much more. dave henrie > > Or, does anybody still have these files somewhere and is willing to make > them available again? > > Regards, Ruud > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02

Dave Henrie wrote:

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>>As you might know F1 2000 CS is now out as one of the few race games on >>the Mac (NR2002 pending). >>However, support for this (older) game seem to have dwindled really fast >>on the Net. (GPL is older and much better supported.) > > an active user base because it hasn't been replaced. F1 2k is greatly > inferior to F1 2k2 so there is little reason for that title to still have an > active user base.

I know Dave, but don't forget at the moment it's kinda all we have... There aren't any other real racing titles for the Mac at the moment. That's why I'm trying my darndest to find every old track/patch/mod for this oldie that's still out there. No answers so far though 8( > Most of the modding began with F1 2k1. There was a CARt mod for 2k or > 2kcs I think, but I don't remember too much more. That's right, but it seems to have disappeared as well.. Nothing but dead links everywhere. C'mon guys, at least the good people who put so many hours in these addons should have a copy somewhere? Regards, Ruud

Ruud, I just got my copy of F1 2K CS Mac today. I've been following your posts, and I'm not seeing much response yet. Maybe if other readers see you are not the only one looking, they'll step up. OTOH putting the word "Mac" in the subject line may be keeping others from even reading this thread. BTW is there a way to calibrate in OS X? I've got a Logi Momo, the slightly older red model. FF etc. seem to work fine. Is calibration even necessary? TIA Jim Ruud Dingemans wrote:

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> Well, I hope you old-time diehards could help us Mac users out here... > > As you might know F1 2000 CS is now out as one of the few race games > on the Mac (NR2002 pending). > > The data files seem much the same, so it should be possible to use > several of the PC mods, cars, tracks etc. > > However, support for this (older) game seem to have dwindled really > fast on the Net. (GPL is older and much better supported.) I've been > able to find three extra tracks so far (Sebring, Laguna and RAtlanta) > and Sebring does indeed work on the Mac, as do setups. > > But that's about it. > > I've Googled until my fingers bled, but countless dead links and > 'missing files' for this game popped up everywhere. There are some > leftovers at bhmotorsports.com, but that's an exception. During my > search I read about several tracks and add-ons for this sim and I'd > like to try them and report to the Mac community what works; but the > trick is to find these files. > > So, any tracks? Donington seems to have been out for this game, maybe > the Indy oval, there seems to have been a CART mod, a Trans-Am mod, > several extra cars, maybe a sports car mod, physics patches, etc... > Trick is, where? (Note: referring to a link is unneccessary since it's > likely stone cold dead, until you've actually been able to download it > there yourself in 2003... believe me, I've tried.) > > Or, does anybody still have these files somewhere and is willing to > make them available again? > > Regards, Ruud >

The Carvalho Family wrote: > I just got my copy of F1 2K CS Mac today. I've been following your > posts, and I'm not seeing much response yet. Maybe if other readers see > you are not the only one looking, they'll step up. Hi Jim, well, at least I am now able to give a tip for Mac users myself: try googling for 'Hungarian Simworld' and look into their 'Archive' section. Found several things there, including tracks - try Mallory Park, I've managed to land some wins at 100% AI there using the keyboard (all driving aids off, of course), it's a very easy track, especially if you go for a high-grip setup. Brake very late for the hairpin, just past the light asphalt patch, make sure you're close behind during accelerating and then go flat-out through the next left-hander, passing on the left (to make sure they don't bump into you, reduce AI aggression to about 10%). At every other circuit, fat chance of winning if you don't have a wheel, of course... I've heard about Indy Oval being available for F1CS2000, but haven't found it anywhere yet. Found Sebring, Mexico, Mallory to work though. If the race is totally darkened after installing these, enter a short Driving School session and then go back - this worked for me. Does anyone know how to change the sky colours in SCGT/F12000 track files, BTW? Mallory sky has a verrrry funny color here... > BTW is there a way to calibrate in OS X? I've got a Logi Momo, the > slightly older red model. FF etc. seem to work fine. Is calibration even > necessary? TIA Good question. I'd say 'yes', but then I'm not in the luxurious position of having a wheel for me Mac - me is stuck using old-fashioned keys for now ;) Regards, Ruud

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> The Carvalho Family wrote: > >> I just got my copy of F1 2K CS Mac today. I've been following your >> posts, and I'm not seeing much response yet. Maybe if other readers >> see you are not the only one looking, they'll step up. > > > Hi Jim, well, at least I am now able to give a tip for Mac users > myself: try googling for 'Hungarian Simworld' and look into their > 'Archive' section. Found several things there, including tracks -

I'll give this a try when I get back to my T1 line on Monday. Thanks for passing on the fruit of your efforts. > > > try Mallory Park, I've managed to land some wins at 100% AI there > using the keyboard (all driving aids off, of course), it's a very easy > track, especially if you go for a high-grip setup. I don't have the foggiest notion how you manage to drive with the keyboard! And win!! Congrats

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> > Brake very late for the hairpin, just past the light asphalt patch, > make sure you're close behind during accelerating and then go flat-out > through the next left-hander, passing on the left (to make sure they > don't bump into you, reduce AI aggression to about 10%). At every > other circuit, fat chance of winning if you don't have a wheel, of > course...

Some of us need more than a wheel to have a chance. ;-) > > I've heard about Indy Oval being available for F1CS2000, but haven't > found it anywhere yet. Found Sebring, Mexico, Mallory to work though. > If the race is totally darkened after installing these, enter a short > Driving School session and then go back - this worked for me. I found my replays are entirely two shades of black. Any idea what gives there?

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> > Does anyone know how to change the sky colours in SCGT/F12000 track > files, BTW? Mallory sky has a verrrry funny color here... > >> BTW is there a way to calibrate in OS X? I've got a Logi Momo, the >> slightly older red model. FF etc. seem to work fine. Is calibration >> even necessary? TIA > > > Good question. I'd say 'yes', but then I'm not in the luxurious > position of having a wheel for me Mac - me is stuck using > old-fashioned keys for now ;) > > Regards, Ruud >

I haven't seen anything that talks about calibrating either at Feral or at Apple. I'm sure there are places at Apple I haven't checked, though. I'll try that next. Sounds like Apple or Feral will be adding support for more wheels shortly. The other problem I'm having right now is in the Driving School section. At the beginning of my first trial on any of the tutorials, my wheel is always turned one way or the other as soon as the computer relinquishes control. So I always fail the first trial. Not a biggy, but then on the next trial, if I don't touch the wheel, it's facing straight on the screen, but the FF has tweaked it to the right or left in my hand so that the wheel in my hand and the one on the screen aren't in sync. With each subsequent trial, it gets tweaked a little more so that after several trials, I've got to start the tutorial all over because the wheel is so far out of alignment with the screen! I may send this one to Feral, unless someone else has an idea. I'll let you know what I find. Jim

The Carvalho Family wrote: > I don't have the foggiest notion how you manage to drive with the > keyboard! And win!! Congrats Uh well, it's just that I don't have much choice ;) Luckily, these modern F1 cars stick to the ground when compared to GPL - which helps :) > I found my replays are entirely two shades of black. Any idea what gives > there? Ummmm.. no... although it does sound like what I have sometimes, but that came up ( I think) after installing these extra tracks. Anyway, all I can offer is that going to the driving school (and then returning) worked for me... Oh, and I can report that the O-ring (old A1-ring), Estoril, Fiorano and Sardian tracks work as well.. Assen doesn't, Zandvoort seems unavailable (yet). If you're having trouble keeping up, try Mallory, Sebring or Road Atlanta - there you have a fighting chance even with the keyboard; not too many narrow chicanes or overly long medium sweepers. >>> slightly older red model. FF etc. seem to work fine. Is calibration >>> even necessary? TIA > At the beginning of my first trial on any of the tutorials, my wheel is > always turned one way or the other as soon as the computer relinquishes That doesn't sound right... Maybe Googling the newsgroups for 'calibrate' and 'F1CS2k' or 'F1CS2000' helps? Otherwise, there's always the keyboard - at least there are some tracks where it kinda works ;) The O-ring, Sardian, Mallory and Road Atlanta are pretty frame-friendly too, should you have fps problems (like me - I have to turn most eye candy off but these tracks seem a lot 'lighter', especially the Osterreichring). Regards, Ruud