Nurburgring GP

Great fun - thanks again to Eldred for organising and Herko for hosting. Qualled second and got a good start. Running second and having a good fight with P. Burke for a long time. PB had a spin and I was so busy watching him I also slid off ;) Bent the steering and life was real tough after that. Even though I was running first after Rene dropped out I just couldn't keep the thing in a straight line. When I was down to 3 wheels I figured it was time to quit. Nice way to start the new year though. Grats to all finishers :))

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> <snip> > I was in 3rd at about lap 8 or so when I spun > on the last right- hander just before the long > straight. A ferrari came around the corner > and hit me and turtled his car. I went on down > the track and just after I went under the bridge > at the end of the straight, my engine let go. > > Oh well. My best time was 8:39 during the race.

I was in 4th when, on lap 8, I crested Galgenkopf and found you stranded in the middle of the road. I managed to get to the brake, but I still hit you pretty hard an in the "latency tanle" I overturned. Now if there's any fear I have in a GP distance event, it's this type of accident, where one crosses a blind crest (or clear a blind apex) and find an obstruction in one's path. Terribly unfortunate and, while, from my point of view I had no indication you were in trouble in the turn and therefore could do little more to avoid the accident than I did, I sincerely apologise for dealing a death blow to your car. Probably very unwise to push your button so soon after the incident as well, but I couldn't resist... sorry bud. ;-)) Anyhow, even if that race had delivered a good result, that would have been down to luck rather than to any good driving I did, especially in the early part. I made two mistakes before this race even started. Number one was I skipped lunch as I didn't feel particularly hungry after last night's festivities and that started biting me on the ass about 2 or 3 laps in and the second was I had a preconception about the start and first turn, which dropped me to last place to begin with. After numerous mistakes, which saw me lucky not to destroy the car nor bend it too much, I started to twig what was going on on about lap 6. I really started to make some inroads on John after that, but faith stepped in to end the race for both of us. That's the way it goes sometimes.

"Jan Verschueren" < That's the way it goes sometimes. > To finish first, you must first start full??? dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02

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> "John Simmons" wrote... > > <snip> > > I was in 3rd at about lap 8 or so when I spun > > on the last right- hander just before the long > > straight. A ferrari came around the corner > > and hit me and turtled his car. I went on down > > the track and just after I went under the bridge > > at the end of the straight, my engine let go. > > > > Oh well. My best time was 8:39 during the race. > > I was in 4th when, on lap 8, I crested Galgenkopf and found you stranded in > the middle of the road. I managed to get to the brake, but I still hit you > pretty hard an in the "latency tanle" I overturned. > > Now if there's any fear I have in a GP distance event, it's this type of > accident, where one crosses a blind crest (or clear a blind apex) and find > an obstruction in one's path. Terribly unfortunate and, while, from my point > of view I had no indication you were in trouble in the turn and therefore > could do little more to avoid the accident than I did, I sincerely apologise > for dealing a death blow to your car. Probably very unwise to push your > button so soon after the incident as well, but I couldn't resist... sorry > bud. ;-)) > > Anyhow, even if that race had delivered a good result, that would have been > down to luck rather than to any good driving I did, especially in the early > part. I made two mistakes before this race even started. Number one was I > skipped lunch as I didn't feel particularly hungry after last night's > festivities and that started biting me on the ass about 2 or 3 laps in and > the second was I had a preconception about the start and first turn, which > dropped me to last place to begin with. > > After numerous mistakes, which saw me lucky not to destroy the car nor bend > it too much, I started to twig what was going on on about lap 6. I really > started to make some inroads on John after that, but faith stepped in to end > the race for both of us. That's the way it goes sometimes. > > > > >

No worries Jan. :) I was messing up big time, and was wondering why you hadn't caught me sooner than you did. :) Ah well, I just shut it all down and continued work on DeMONS/3.

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> Great fun - thanks again to Eldred for organising and Herko for hosting. > > Qualled second and got a good start. Running second and having a good fight > with P. Burke for a long time. PB had a spin and I was so busy watching him > I also slid off ;) Bent the steering and life was real tough after that. > Even though I was running first after Rene dropped out I just couldn't keep > the thing in a straight line. When I was down to 3 wheels I figured it was > time to quit. > > Nice way to start the new year though. Grats to all finishers :)) > > >

I was in 3rd at about lap 8 or so when I spun on the last right- hander just before the long straight. A ferrari came around the corner and hit me and turtled his car. I went on down the track and just after I went under the bridge at the end of the straight, my engine let go. Oh well. My best time was 8:39 during the race.

Neil Charlton wrote in news:auv1ji$jnl$[email hidden]:

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> Great fun - thanks again to Eldred for organising and Herko for > hosting. > > Qualled second and got a good start. Running second and having a > good fight with P. Burke for a long time. PB had a spin and I was > so busy watching him I also slid off ;) Bent the steering and life > was real tough after that. Even though I was running first after > Rene dropped out I just couldn't keep the thing in a straight > line. When I was down to 3 wheels I figured it was time to quit. > > Nice way to start the new year though. Grats to all finishers :)) > >

Thanks for the race, Eldred. (Although the change in servers threw for a while.) I waited ten minutes before joining: at that point there were only 8 or 9 drivers entered, so I figured I'd make up the numbers a bit. I know the race was full by start time: I hope no one was disappointed by finding the race full. I started off slow (after warning everyone behind to go ahead and pass me) and puttered around for a couple of laps before I realized that people were dropping out like flies, as I was in something like 11th place. I had moved up to 6th -- all due to others quitting, believe me -- when I turned in a relatively fast lap (for me) and started feeling cocky. The powers that be _hate_ people feeling cocky: I slipped off one of the easier corners and sideswiped a tree which removed my rightside wheels. But, looking on the bright side, I tried this race last year as well, and had terminal brain fade on lap two or three -- vaulting one of the fences and removing all four wheels. This year, I managed six complete laps and went off on the 7th lap. And I only took off two wheels! Gee, maybe next year I'll manage to last to the bitter end. <g> -- Darryl

Congratulations to Eldred on his win today! It look like Eldred is fast becoming a Ring meister! ;-) ZZ

Like last year, I had the race won if I hadn't gotten cocky. Instead I had the dumbest crash ever on lap 11 or 12 while leading. Eldred did a great job tho, consistency is what wins races !! rms [email hidden]

"Roger Squires" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ayGQ9.10$[email hidden]... > Like last year, I had the race won if I hadn't gotten cocky. Instead Ihad > the dumbest crash ever on lap 11 or 12 while leading. Eldred did a great > job tho, consistency is what wins races !! Well done Eldred ;-) Unfortunately my virus scanner kicked in at 3pm (halfway through lap 2) and I lost control of the car. Unfortunately I took out a Honda too. Sorry about that :-( Malc.

Darryl said: had moved up to 6th -- all due to others quitting, believe me -- when I turned in a relatively fast lap (for me) and started feeling cocky. The powers that be _hate_ people feeling cocky: I slipped off one of the easier corners and sideswiped a tree which removed my rightside wheels. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I had fun driving with you. The Ferrari, right? I was kind sad when you lost it. After that it was just me and off track things to hit. Just about the time John and Jan had their little discussion ;-), I had a horrible time at the bridge. Careened of both sides and damaged the motor. I lost about 1000-2000 revs. But after I saw that I was now in a position to finish in points, I soldiered on. I blew it on my last lap when I had another disagreement with the hedges and caused my motor to smoke. I had to get over the finish line to score in 2nd, so after I crossed the line, I stopped. I guess St. Eldred was hot on my heels by then. Nice win Eldred! ZZ Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League CORS RASCAR GPL Rank + 17.415 MoGPL Rank + 320.753 N2002 Rank + 7.695 http://www.ZZBusch.com ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: A good carpenter can nail anything -----------------

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> Darryl said: > had moved up to 6th -- all due to others quitting, believe me -- > when I turned in a relatively fast lap (for me) and started > feeling cocky. The powers that be _hate_ people feeling cocky: I > slipped off one of the easier corners and sideswiped a tree which > removed my rightside wheels. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- I had fun driving with you. The Ferrari, right? > I was kind sad when you lost it. After that it was just me and off > track things to hit. > Just about the time John and Jan had their little discussion ;-), > I had a horrible time at the bridge. Careened of both sides and > damaged the motor. I lost about 1000-2000 revs. But after I saw > that I was now in a position to finish in points, I soldiered on. > I blew it on my last lap when I had another disagreement with the > hedges and caused my motor to smoke. I had to get over the finish > line to score in 2nd, so after I crossed the line, I stopped. I > guess St. Eldred was hot on my heels by then. > > Nice win Eldred! > > ZZ > > Richard "ZZ" Busch >

Yeah, that was me in the Ferrari. I got a bit of a chuckle out of how we'd each lead for a bit and then we'd have a little spin and the other guy would be in front. It was nice seeing another car from time to time, though. -- Darryl

Thanks, guys! The office manager moved all my computers around(cleaning). *Sigh*... Screwed up EVERYTHING, but Herko ter Horst came through with a server for the race. Thanks, dude! Results are up: http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/gprace.html Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

My Gosh! first Eldred goes Negative, then he wins the Nurburging. What is next? Somebody call Gregor and make sure he gets some practice laps in... :) dave henrie (ps...Way to go Big E!) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02

In article <XeMQ9.406006$[email hidden]>, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes: > My Gosh! first Eldred goes Negative, then he wins the Nurburging. What >is next? Somebody call Gregor and make sure he gets some practice laps >in... :) >dave henrie >(ps...Way to go Big E!) Hehe...thanks! What's next? Maybe a league championship... Hey, if I'm gonna dream, I may as well dream BIG.<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Neil Charlton <[email hidden]> wrote: > Great fun - thanks again to Eldred for organising and Herko for hosting. What simulator lets you drive the Nurburgring?! jason -- "Listen, my boy, I can't abide children. I know it's the style nowadays to make a terrible fuss over you - but I don't go for it. As far as I'm concerned, they're no good for anything but screaming, torturing people, breaking things, smearing books with jam and tearing the pages." - The Neverending Story

On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:32:33 -0700, Jason Steiner <[email hidden]> wrote: >Neil Charlton <[email hidden]> wrote: >> Great fun - thanks again to Eldred for organising and Herko for hosting. > >What simulator lets you drive the Nurburgring?! > >jason GPL and SCGT has the complete Nordschelife. /petern

>"Jason Steiner" <[email hidden]> wrote > What simulator lets you drive the Nurburgring?! Ack! Welcome to the newsgroup :) The game, it's more of a religion, is called "Grand Prix Legends". It's made by Papyrus, is 4 old, but is still the reference for modern simulations. http://magnust.d2g.com/showscreenies.asp?Name=nurburg I suggest you try to buy it, or find it somewhere :) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote: > "Jason Steiner" <[email hidden]> wrote > > What simulator lets you drive the Nurburgring?! > > Ack! Welcome to the newsgroup :) Thanks, I am new.

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> The game, it's more of a religion, is called "Grand Prix Legends". > It's made by Papyrus, is 4 old, but is still the reference for > modern simulations. > > http://magnust.d2g.com/showscreenies.asp?Name=nurburg > > I suggest you try to buy it, or find it somewhere :)

Looks like I'd have to try to find a 3Dfx card too. :( jason -- "Listen, my boy, I can't abide children. I know it's the style nowadays to make a terrible fuss over you - but I don't go for it. As far as I'm concerned, they're no good for anything but screaming, torturing people, breaking things, smearing books with jam and tearing the pages." - The Neverending Story

On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:07:27 -0700, Jason Steiner <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote: >> "Jason Steiner" <[email hidden]> wrote >> > What simulator lets you drive the Nurburgring?! >> >> Ack! Welcome to the newsgroup :) > >Thanks, I am new. > >> The game, it's more of a religion, is called "Grand Prix Legends". >> It's made by Papyrus, is 4 old, but is still the reference for >> modern simulations. >> >> http://magnust.d2g.com/showscreenies.asp?Name=nurburg >> >> I suggest you try to buy it, or find it somewhere :) > >Looks like I'd have to try to find a 3Dfx card too. :(

There is a DirectX D3D rasterizer... (at papy's) Remco

>"Jason Steiner" <[email hidden]> wrote > Looks like I'd have to try to find a 3Dfx card too. :( No need for that! With the years, not only has the community updated gratefully GPL, but several people at Papyrus worked for free to update GPL to the "modern gaming time". Which means is, while originally the game only offered 3dfx and Rendition rasterisers, there are now OpenGL and Direct3D rasterisers for GPL. The Direct3D one is used by the vast majority of GPL drivers. Check out papy.com like Remco said, you'll find the basic patches for it if you ever buy it. But hey you had interest in racing simulations to *post* on this newsgroup, which means you would probably like GPL! :) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"Jason Steiner" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Looks like I'd have to try to find a 3Dfx card too. :( > > No need for that! With the years, not only has the community updated > gratefully GPL, but several people at Papyrus worked for free to update GPL > to the "modern gaming time". Which means is, while originally the game only > offered 3dfx and Rendition rasterisers, there are now OpenGL and Direct3D > rasterisers for GPL.

Thanks for all the information! I'll look that up. I mostly just want to drive the Nurburgring, and since I won't be able to do it for real for a while, a simulation will have to do. jason -- "Listen, my boy, I can't abide children. I know it's the style nowadays to make a terrible fuss over you - but I don't go for it. As far as I'm concerned, they're no good for anything but screaming, torturing people, breaking things, smearing books with jam and tearing the pages." - The Neverending Story

On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:07:27 -0700, Jason Steiner wrote:

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> ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote: >> "Jason Steiner" <[email hidden]> wrote >> > What simulator lets you drive the Nurburgring?! >> >> Ack! Welcome to the newsgroup :) > > Thanks, I am new. >

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