Dangerous, spectacular highways?

What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video game. :-)

On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Joe62 wrote: > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-) Look at original road courses--back when people raced on regular roads? 1st Watkins Glen (5+ miles) comes to mind, because it's my home track. It's located in the beautiful Finger Lakes region of NY state. The roads are surrounded by hardwood trees which put on a fantastic color display in the fall. The corkscrew dive down to Stone Bridge (a narrow two lane bridge with 3 foot high stone walls on each side) is so scary looking that no one ever went off at that spot during all the early races (starting in 1948). Read Denis Jenkinson, "Jenks: A Passion for Motorsport" to learn about the European road courses. His story of the Mille Miglia with Moss is fantastic.

> What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-) Ever seen 'Getaway in Stockholm (2)' ?

Highway 1 along the California coast, south of Monterey might fit your description. Jim Damien Smith wrote:

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>>What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? >> >>No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video >>game. :-) >> > >Ever seen 'Getaway in Stockholm (2)' ? > >

Try the mixing bowl in Springfield Virginia, lots of ramps, construction and wrecks...big ones. Another that comes to mind is Crossing Black Mountain in NC on interstate 40 and while your at it look at Fancy Gap on 77 in Va "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-)

There is an 11 mile stretch in the Apalachians called, The Dragon, that is supposed to be very good. More turns than the old Nurburgring. dave henrie "Tom Osbon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZzNS9.1630$[email hidden]... > Try the mixing bowl in Springfield Virginia, lots of ramps, constructionand > wrecks...big ones. Another that comes to mind is Crossing Black Mountainin

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> NC on interstate 40 and while your at it look at Fancy Gap on 77 in Va > "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > > game. :-) > >

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Yep, I agree. Southbound from 101, tight winding road with blind curves through the thick redwoods eventually popping out onto the coast for some tight winding roads along seaside cliffs. Does it get any better? Well, yes, if you ban RV's!! -Tim "The Carvalho Family" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Highway 1 along the California coast, south of Monterey might fit your > description. > Jim > > Damien Smith wrote: > > >>What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > >> > >>No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > >>game. :-) > >> > > > >Ever seen 'Getaway in Stockholm (2)' ? > > > > >

Yup, 129 over Deal's Gap. Been there, done that. (on my bicycle!) 318 turns in 11 miles, they say, but I was too busy trying not to get dropped to count 'em. Like being on a ride at the fair, and a lovely tune up for the 15+ mile climb to the top of the Cherohala Skyway. Oops, wrong NG... or is it? Nahhh, the road's always chock full of sportscars and Ducatis. http://www.tailofthedragon.com/dragon.html Plus, with plenty of trees to run into, cliffs to run off of, and a river to fall into, it definitely makes the cut for this thread! SB PS - I've taken Eau Rouge and Masta flat on my bike too; does that make me an alien? ;-) "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1ENS9.280611$qF3.25279@sccrnsc04... > There is an 11 mile stretch in the Apalachians called, The Dragon, thatis

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> supposed to be very good. More turns than the old Nurburgring. > dave henrie > > > "Tom Osbon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZzNS9.1630$[email hidden]... > > Try the mixing bowl in Springfield Virginia, lots of ramps, construction > and > > wrecks...big ones. Another that comes to mind is Crossing Black Mountain > in > > NC on interstate 40 and while your at it look at Fancy Gap on 77 in Va > > "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > > > > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > > > game. :-) > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02 > >

Couldn't resist. ;-) http://www.tailofthedragon.com/maps/DRAGONmap.gif Now if we can just get it into GPL... "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Yup, 129 over Deal's Gap. Been there, done that. (on my bicycle!) 318 > turns in 11 miles, they say, but I was too busy trying not to get droppedto > count 'em. Like being on a ride at the fair, and a lovely tune up for the > 15+ mile climb to the top of the Cherohala Skyway. Oops, wrong NG... oris > it? Nahhh, the road's always chock full of sportscars and Ducatis. > > http://www.tailofthedragon.com/dragon.html > > Plus, with plenty of trees to run into, cliffs to run off of, and a riverto

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> fall into, it definitely makes the cut for this thread! > > SB > > PS - I've taken Eau Rouge and Masta flat on my bike too; does that make me > an alien? ;-) > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:1ENS9.280611$qF3.25279@sccrnsc04... > > There is an 11 mile stretch in the Apalachians called, The Dragon,

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> is > > supposed to be very good. More turns than the old Nurburgring. > > dave henrie > > > > > > "Tom Osbon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ZzNS9.1630$[email hidden]... > > > Try the mixing bowl in Springfield Virginia, lots of ramps,

construction > > and > > > wrecks...big ones. Another that comes to mind is Crossing BlackMountain > > in > > > NC on interstate 40 and while your at it look at Fancy Gap on 77 in Va > > > "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacularhighways?

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The Carvalho Family <[email hidden]> writes: > Highway 1 along the California coast, south of Monterey might fit your > description. Pah, it even got a yellow dividing line. Visually, yes, driving challenge, none. :)

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> > Damien Smith wrote: > > >>What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > >> > >>No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > >>game. :-) > >> > > > >Ever seen 'Getaway in Stockholm (2)' ? > > > > >

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On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:15:50 -0500, Steve Blankenship wrote: > Couldn't resist. ;-) > > http://www.tailofthedragon.com/maps/DRAGONmap.gif > > Now if we can just get it into GPL... > That looks like one wicked track! All we need is a straight "backstraight" Le-Mans style, and this would make for some fantastic driving ;-) uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Joe62 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-) You could do worse than look at the Cat & Fiddle Pass in Cheshire, UK - the local hospital (Macclesfield General I think) has the highest rate of motor-cycle injuries in the UK. I think in total it's about 7-8 miles long, twisty, undulating, plenty of camber changes etc. If you like woodland and moorland scenery, you won't get any better (plus you pass the highest pub in England (yes, England, not the UK) at the top - called the Cat & Fiddle) Matt

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> On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:15:50 -0500, Steve Blankenship wrote: > >>Couldn't resist. ;-) >> >>http://www.tailofthedragon.com/maps/DRAGONmap.gif >> >>Now if we can just get it into GPL... >> > > > That looks like one wicked track! All we need is a straight > "backstraight" Le-Mans style, and this would make for some > fantastic driving ;-) > > uwe > >

Deal's Gap is nice, but it's fairly predictable. There are many Swiss mountain passes which will catch you out badly if you are not paying attention. Personally, I'd like to see a hill climb up the Stelvio Pass on the Italian border. It has a zillion corners. The Klausen Pass in Switzerland was a famous mountain race in the 30s, with the AutoUnions thundering up the gravel road at outrageous speeds. Stephen

Try the Rimutaka Hills Road North of Wellington in New Zealand.. Bike riders paradise - tight twisty road with a cafe at the top- Rimutaka Motorcycle Caf� - Pie in the Sky - at 555m . Great road but in winter it has some of the highest recorded wind speeds on a public road in the world.... "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-)

The Grossglockner road (Hochalpenstrasse) in Austria comes to my mind. Very Scenic road over the alps of Salzburg. Info here: http://www.frommers.com/destinations/landsalzburg/1851010025.html "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-)

On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 02:32:49 GMT, Joe62 <[email hidden]> wrote: >What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? Pikes Peak?!? Greetings Klaus

On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 02:32:49 GMT, Joe62 <[email hidden]> wrote: >What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > >No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video >game. :-) When they're used as a race track, the Isle of Man. 170mph through hilly tree-lined country roads, then into the city. 100+ mph on twisting residential streets with square curbs and buildings 5 feet from the race track. As an avid motorcycle rider, the pucker factor of just watching this dangerous spectacle is almost unbearable. Sega tried to capture it in Manx TT a couple years ago, but didn't really do it justice.

"Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-) My favorite is Tioga Pass going into Yosemite National Park in California. Cutting across the sides of the Sierra Nevada mountains while ascending to the crest look out the passenger side window of your car and DOWN about 5,000 feet. Reach the crest and look down in to beautiful Yosemite Valley... http://www.byways.org/press/byway_synopsis.html?CX_BYWAY=2302 - Dave

One of the more vivid "oh SHIT" moments of my life happened on that road. I was putting along in my '80 Mazda 626, enjoying the fall greenery. Just as I went around one of the blind curves a pair of crotch-rockets come screaming around from the other direction. Leaned WAY over. I don't think anybody was in any danger, really, but it was quite startling to see these two very loud, very fast moving objects appear out of nowhere, blast by me at what appeared to be a ridiculous rate of speed, and then disappear in my rear view around the curve. The songs of the two bikes hit a really cool harmonic as they went by. Gerald "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> Couldn't resist. ;-) > > http://www.tailofthedragon.com/maps/DRAGONmap.gif > > Now if we can just get it into GPL... > > "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Yup, 129 over Deal's Gap. Been there, done that. (on my bicycle!) 318 > > turns in 11 miles, they say, but I was too busy trying not to get dropped > to > > count 'em. Like being on a ride at the fair, and a lovely tune up for the > > 15+ mile climb to the top of the Cherohala Skyway. Oops, wrong NG... or > is > > it? Nahhh, the road's always chock full of sportscars and Ducatis. > > > > http://www.tailofthedragon.com/dragon.html > > > > Plus, with plenty of trees to run into, cliffs to run off of, and a river > to > > fall into, it definitely makes the cut for this thread! > > > > SB > > > > PS - I've taken Eau Rouge and Masta flat on my bike too; does that make me > > an alien? ;-) > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:1ENS9.280611$qF3.25279@sccrnsc04... > > > There is an 11 mile stretch in the Apalachians called, The Dragon, > that > is > > > supposed to be very good. More turns than the old Nurburgring. > > > dave henrie > > > > > > > > > "Tom Osbon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:ZzNS9.1630$[email hidden]... > > > > Try the mixing bowl in Springfield Virginia, lots of ramps, > construction > and > > > > wrecks...big ones. Another that comes to mind is Crossing Black > Mountain > in > > > > NC on interstate 40 and while your at it look at Fancy Gap on 77 in Va > > > > "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular > highways? > > > > > > > > > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > > > > > game. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02 > > > > > > > > > >

Joe62 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-) The road to Hana on the north shore of Maui is pretty spectacular. 600 odd curves in 50 miles. Lots of cliffs and bridges. The saddle road on Big Island is pretty neat too. I don't know if you could really do the high desert and lava moonscape visuals justice in a computer game, though.

Rumour has it that on Wed, 08 Jan 2003 04:05:59 +0000, The Carvalho Family said: > Highway 1 along the California coast, south of Monterey might fit your > description. > Jim Hey, didn't that crop up Looking Glass' age-old Car and Driver? Looking rather polygonal, I seem to recall. Although then again, for all its spectacular graphics, does N2002 run on a 286/14 with 1MB of RAM? Regards, Matt -- Forget this whole wacky "post to Usenet" idea. Only bad will come of it. |=- Contact Info: http://www.mattkimber.org.uk/contact -=|

You guys are all close...but the the best is the Belt Parkway in NY.... especially after dark... It runs from the Verranzano Bridge east through Brooklyn into Queens. It is a very narrow, four lane highway (2 lanes each way.)... it is fairly windy for a major road. (In NYC "Parkways" were built to give motorist a leisurely ride to the State parks.) with some decent elevation changes. The armco barrier that surrounds the road is battered and torn from the countless accidents. While the speed limit is 50, that is universally ignored... People often fly down this little stretch of road in the low to mid 70's. Which due to the age of the road is really fast. And at night it just gets worse. Huge multi-car pile-ups are rare in NY, except on the belt parkway, where tailgating at high speed is the rule. This road is scary. And would make a great video game, afterall the AI would be easy. Just program them to run up your butt, and then cut you off when they pass. "Gerald Moore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Joe62 <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<[email hidden]>...

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> > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > > game. :-) > > The road to Hana on the north shore of Maui is pretty spectacular. > 600 odd curves in 50 miles. Lots of cliffs and bridges. > > The saddle road on Big Island is pretty neat too. I don't know if you > could really do the high desert and lava moonscape visuals justice in > a computer game, though.

the freeway coming down from chamonix in the valley has a VERY nice bridge passing over the city at a very big height... and since it's in chamonix that means snow and ice and it's also the road to the mont-blanc tunnel with all the trucks going to italy... -- The first ever pinball ezboard !! http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY "Joe62" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: [email hidden]... > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-)

"Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-) Might I suggest the Icefields Parkway between Jasper and Banff in the Canadian Rockies... huge elevation changes, twisty, narrow with cliffs straight up on one side and shear drops that would most certainly be fatal on the other. You also have to be on constant outlook for elk, bears, and mountain sheep and if you manage to miss all of those you have to dodge the 70+ year olds driving R.V.'s of massive proportions who decide to stop in the middle of this beautiful scenic highway to snap pictures. Also, it's about a 3 hour drive but that's only if you manage to stick to the speed limit! :-) Regards, Robin

Cabot Trail, Nova Scotia, Canada, 300 km (190 miles). "the Cabot Trail winds around the rocky splendour of Cape Breton's northern shore, ascending into the majestic highlands of Cape Breton National Park. This magnificent highway is carved into the sides of mountains that rise high above the shimmering waters of the Gulf of St. Lawrence." Absolutely beautiful in fall colors. Joe62 wrote: > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-)

On 8 Jan 2003 06:13:37 -0800, [email hidden] (Gerald Moore) wrote: >The saddle road on Big Island is pretty neat too. I don't know if you >could really do the high desert and lava moonscape visuals justice in >a computer game, though. It might be possible. I'm pitching the title as a next-gen console racer (i.e., Playstation 3, XBox 2). We don't even know what kind of graphical muscle will be under the hood, but it'll be a lot.

Angeles Crest Highway above Los Angeles. Ortega Highway, Orange County, California. -- don ------------------------------------- BAPOM Alternative Program Covers for GPL http://www.trilon.com/bapom/ "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-)

Yep; Angeles Crest Highway is a good one too. Lots of fast sweepers and beeeeg drop-offs. Great combination for focusing one's mind! SB "don hodgdon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avij4j$mqv$[email hidden]...

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> Angeles Crest Highway above Los Angeles. > Ortega Highway, Orange County, California. > > -- > don > > ------------------------------------- > BAPOM > Alternative Program Covers for GPL > http://www.trilon.com/bapom/ > > "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > > game. :-) > >

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> "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? >> >>No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video >>game. :-) > > > Might I suggest the Icefields Parkway between Jasper and Banff in the > Canadian Rockies... huge elevation changes, twisty, narrow with cliffs > straight up on one side and shear drops that would most certainly be fatal > on the other. You also have to be on constant outlook for elk, bears, and > mountain sheep and if you manage to miss all of those you have to dodge the > 70+ year olds driving R.V.'s of massive proportions who decide to stop in > the middle of this beautiful scenic highway to snap pictures. Also, it's > about a 3 hour drive but that's only if you manage to stick to the speed > limit! :-) > Regards, > Robin

But the Icefields Parkway is (literally) a stroll in the park. The road is really wide, and never particularly challenging.

>> What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? >> No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video >> game. :-) Well, how about some German Autobahn without speedlimit? Or the N�rburgring Nordschleife, which is also a public road on weekends? Or some passes in the Alps, the high ones, and the twisty ones used during the Rallye Monte Carlo? >Angeles Crest Highway above Los Angeles. >Ortega Highway, Orange County, California. -- Matthias Flatt

> Try the Rimutaka Hills Road North of Wellington in New Zealand.. Bike riders > paradise - tight twisty road with a cafe at the top- Rimutaka Motorcycle > Caf� - Pie in the Sky - at 555m . Great road but in winter it has some of > the highest recorded wind speeds on a public road in the world.... > I agree, puts the Canadian Rookies roads to shame. Narrow, virtually no guardrails, blind corners, rocks on the mountain side, wet ... Oh yeah and idiots on Ninja bikes coming at you like video game characters!

Anyone ever "Crank Da Kank" here? http://www.yankeecruisah.com/kanc-1r.html Nice scenic high-speed ride in the White Mountains of New Hampshire USA. At least it was in the early 70's probably clogged with hikey bicyclist types now from what Google shows. Ah... the joys of getting away nowadays.... Note: Recreational passes are required at all trailheads. Subject: [at-l] white mountain fees From: " bluestreak" <snip>@mail<snip> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:33:17 -0800 Organization: MailCity (http://<snip>) -------------------------------------------------------- In todays Union Leader the headline reads, President Clinton wants to make the parking fees test program permanent in the whites and about 400 other federal sites across the US. What a surprise.I never would have thought...and the forest service is really pleased and excited too :o) the bluestreak New Hampshire In a message dated 4/14/99 6:50:37 PM US Eastern Standard Time, <snip>@mail<snip> writes: <<In today's Union Leader the headline reads, President Clinton wants to make the parking fees test program permanent in the whites and about 400 other federal sites across the US. What a surprise.I never would have thought...and the forest service is really pleased and excited too :o) >> I'd rather get my wallet out in the parking lot, then at a campsite or shelter! I find it somewhat ironic you can pay for a campsite with plastic. Sly -- Daytona Beach - Winter Speed Carnival 1903 - 1935 1919 - Ralph DePalma Driving Champion and winner of hundreds of races, sets new 1 mile record driving 905 cubic inch V-12 Packard on beach at 149.875 mph. DePalma also sets World Records for distances of 2 to 20 miles and standing mile. His standing mile record of 92.713 mph is unbroken for 36 years.

On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 02:32:49 GMT, Joe62 <[email hidden]> wrote: >What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > >No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video >game. :-) Definitely, the highways in the Peruvian sierras. Very treacherous, and you get nice landscapes (including tunnels, bridges, snow, llamas, railroads...). Ticlio is at 4680m a.s.l. the highest railroad station in the world. -- __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com '-_____|( remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

>Angeles Crest Highway above Los Angeles. Yes, Route 39 up into the San Gabriel Canyon was my "escape from the smog" in my LA Day's. http://tinyurl.com/49bs Also Big Tujunga Canyon, Mt Wilson, Mulholland Drive, Sierra Nevada's, etc. -- Daytona Beach - Winter Speed Carnival 1903 - 1935 1919 - Ralph DePalma Driving Champion and winner of hundreds of races, sets new 1 mile record driving 905 cubic inch V-12 Packard on beach at 149.875 mph. DePalma also sets World Records for distances of 2 to 20 miles and standing mile. His standing mile record of 92.713 mph is unbroken for 36 years.

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> Robin wrote: > > "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > >>What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > >> > >>No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > >>game. :-) > > > > > > Might I suggest the Icefields Parkway between Jasper and Banff in the > > Canadian Rockies... huge elevation changes, twisty, narrow with cliffs > > straight up on one side and shear drops that would most certainly be

fatal > > on the other. You also have to be on constant outlook for elk, bears,and > > mountain sheep and if you manage to miss all of those you have to dodgethe > > 70+ year olds driving R.V.'s of massive proportions who decide to stopin

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> > the middle of this beautiful scenic highway to snap pictures. Also, it's > > about a 3 hour drive but that's only if you manage to stick to the speed > > limit! :-) > > Regards, > > Robin > > But the Icefields Parkway is (literally) a stroll in the park. The road > is really wide, and never particularly challenging. >

Yes, there is adequate shoulder on this road so it gives the impression of being "wide" but there are so many off camber corners, 30km "recommended" speed areas due to the road narrowing through rock cuts on some very steep grades and enough idiots stopped around blind corners taking photos to make this a very interesting drive. I've driven it so many times that I can see every inch of this road in my head without any trouble at all and every time I've driven it I've had a "memorable" moment where I'm either swearing at a tourist or berating myself for trying to "make time" in a spot I know better than to try it... while hoping my heart will come down out of my throat and stop hammering away. If you wish to describe this as a "stroll in the park" then I would have to leave it as your opinion.... either way, it can be both a fun and scary road to drive. As far as the original posters query goes... I have travelled a fair amount and as far as "visually spectacular" go the view from this highway ranks right up there with any other mountain road I've travelled when the weather co-operates. Bright blue skies, snow capped mountains, and a road which takes you right past some truely beautiful looking lakes that you'll find yourself hard pressed to describe the true colour of the water afterwards... hard to top. Regards, Robin

We may have a winner... ;-) "machf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Definitely, the highways in the Peruvian sierras. Very treacherous, andyou > get nice landscapes (including tunnels, bridges, snow, llamas,railroads...).

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> Ticlio is at 4680m a.s.l. the highest railroad station in the world. > > -- > __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke > \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru > _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com > '-_____|( > > remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

Just driven on it... The Desert Road, between Waiouru and Turangi, North Island, NZ. Its in the mountains (a volcanic plateau actaully) so its always iced over, lotsa twisty bits, all off-camber, and beautiful scenery to boot. Gavin B "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-)

Interstate 495, 95 or 66 in Washington DC/Virginia/MD during Rush-Hour. Iron-Clad Underwear required. Larry "Joe62" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are the world's most dangerous and visually spectacular highways? > > No, I'm not a misguided lottery winner. I'm researching for a video > game. :-)

On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 14:50:08 -0500, "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote: >We may have a winner... ;-) >And I didn't even mention the thick fog, the bus coming the opposite way (probably with a very tired driver at the wheel), the deep cravice by a hairpin curve and the rapids running at the bottom... And there's at least one spot with a bridge right after a tunnel. -- __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com '-_____|( remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying