MS FF wheel (gameport version) & win2k?

Hi folks, is it possible to install the MS FF Sidewinder Wheel software on Win2k? It's the midi/gameport version, and while it's detected fine as an input device, trying to install the Profiler software fails with a "version conflict" or something. Cheers & TIA for your comments, uwe PS: I'm asking this on behalf of a friend w/o usenet access -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Uwe hoover Schuerkamp <[email hidden]> writes:

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> Hi folks, > > is it possible to install the MS FF Sidewinder Wheel software > on Win2k? It's the midi/gameport version, and while it's > detected fine as an input device, trying to install the > Profiler software fails with a "version conflict" or something. > > Cheers & TIA for your comments, > > uwe > > PS: I'm asking this on behalf of a friend w/o usenet access

It doesn't look like that. The wheel works however like a split axis wheel, but the profiler doesn't, so for every game without proper wheel configuration you're stuck. -- Olav Malmin remove .spam when replying

So, does the wheel show up in the Windows game Controller Panel? If not, it'll be hard to set FF strength and stuff like that. Maybe you can plug it into the USB port with one of the adapters that are available. Or, is it just the profiler software that doesn't work? If so, get RBJoy and use that instead. It's freeware. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Uwe hoover Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi folks, > > is it possible to install the MS FF Sidewinder Wheel software > on Win2k? It's the midi/gameport version, and while it's > detected fine as an input device, trying to install the > Profiler software fails with a "version conflict" or something. > > Cheers & TIA for your comments, > > uwe > > PS: I'm asking this on behalf of a friend w/o usenet access > > > -- > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002

Yes U can...I installed on xp its working ,and run fine only gpl used to center a little to the left lol..No problems on the msff software on xp its funny why does this happens ,its a microsoft wheel.Good Question for mr Gates "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> escreveu na mensagem news:avkguc$gka13$[email hidden]... > So, does the wheel show up in the Windows game Controller Panel? If not, > it'll be hard to set FF strength and stuff like that. Maybe you can plugit > into the USB port with one of the adapters that are available. > Or, is it just the profiler software that doesn't work? If so, get RBJoyand

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> use that instead. It's freeware. > > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > > "Uwe hoover Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi folks, > > > > is it possible to install the MS FF Sidewinder Wheel software > > on Win2k? It's the midi/gameport version, and while it's > > detected fine as an input device, trying to install the > > Profiler software fails with a "version conflict" or something. > > > > Cheers & TIA for your comments, > > > > uwe > > > > PS: I'm asking this on behalf of a friend w/o usenet access > > > > > > -- > > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002 > >

Sry the last post its for xp not for win2000 "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> escreveu na mensagem news:avkguc$gka13$[email hidden]... > So, does the wheel show up in the Windows game Controller Panel? If not, > it'll be hard to set FF strength and stuff like that. Maybe you can plugit > into the USB port with one of the adapters that are available. > Or, is it just the profiler software that doesn't work? If so, get RBJoyand

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> use that instead. It's freeware. > > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > > "Uwe hoover Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi folks, > > > > is it possible to install the MS FF Sidewinder Wheel software > > on Win2k? It's the midi/gameport version, and while it's > > detected fine as an input device, trying to install the > > Profiler software fails with a "version conflict" or something. > > > > Cheers & TIA for your comments, > > > > uwe > > > > PS: I'm asking this on behalf of a friend w/o usenet access > > > > > > -- > > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002 > >

There is NO profiler software available for the GamePort version under 2K/XP and there never will be. Microsoft will never support this configuration. Larry "Uwe hoover Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hi folks, > > is it possible to install the MS FF Sidewinder Wheel software > on Win2k? It's the midi/gameport version, and while it's > detected fine as an input device, trying to install the > Profiler software fails with a "version conflict" or something. > > Cheers & TIA for your comments, > > uwe > > PS: I'm asking this on behalf of a friend w/o usenet access > > > -- > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

You can't set ANY of that stuff with the Gameport version in Win2K. All you can do is install it using the "SideWinder" generic device driver in the Game Controller Control Panel, and get a basic 4 axis device out of it. There will never be anything else where the GamePort version is concerned. I just keep my GamePort version for spare parts (haven't needed to use any yet) and bought a USB model close to 3 years ago. The USB model works with all OS's, profiler software and all. Larry "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avkguc$gka13$[email hidden]... > So, does the wheel show up in the Windows game Controller Panel? If not, > it'll be hard to set FF strength and stuff like that. Maybe you can plugit > into the USB port with one of the adapters that are available. > Or, is it just the profiler software that doesn't work? If so, get RBJoyand

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> use that instead. It's freeware. > > > -- > Slot > > Tweaks & Reviews > www.slottweak.com > > > > "Uwe hoover Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi folks, > > > > is it possible to install the MS FF Sidewinder Wheel software > > on Win2k? It's the midi/gameport version, and while it's > > detected fine as an input device, trying to install the > > Profiler software fails with a "version conflict" or something. > > > > Cheers & TIA for your comments, > > > > uwe > > > > PS: I'm asking this on behalf of a friend w/o usenet access > > > > > > -- > > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002 > >

Mr. Gates doesn't care about your ability to use your GamePort SideWinder under 2K and XP and never will. Larry "Mario Gama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3e1e487f$0$12546$[email hidden]... > Yes U can...I installed on xp its working ,and run fine only gpl used to > center a little to the left lol..No problems on the msff software on xpits

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> funny why does this happens ,its a microsoft wheel.Good Question for mr > Gates > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> escreveu na mensagem > news:avkguc$gka13$[email hidden]... > > So, does the wheel show up in the Windows game Controller Panel? If not, > > it'll be hard to set FF strength and stuff like that. Maybe you can plug > it > > into the USB port with one of the adapters that are available. > > Or, is it just the profiler software that doesn't work? If so, get RBJoy > and > > use that instead. It's freeware. > > > > > > -- > > Slot > > > > Tweaks & Reviews > > www.slottweak.com > > > > > > > > "Uwe hoover Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > is it possible to install the MS FF Sidewinder Wheel software > > > on Win2k? It's the midi/gameport version, and while it's > > > detected fine as an input device, trying to install the > > > Profiler software fails with a "version conflict" or something. > > > > > > Cheers & TIA for your comments, > > > > > > uwe > > > > > > PS: I'm asking this on behalf of a friend w/o usenet access > > > > > > > > > -- > > > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > > > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > > > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > > > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002 > > > > > >

That's ok. Same issues on both OS's. Anything above WinME is trouble for the GamePort version. Larry "Mario Gama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3e1e49f6$0$12555$[email hidden]...

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> Sry the last post its for xp not for win2000 > "GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> escreveu na mensagem > news:avkguc$gka13$[email hidden]... > > So, does the wheel show up in the Windows game Controller Panel? If not, > > it'll be hard to set FF strength and stuff like that. Maybe you can plug > it > > into the USB port with one of the adapters that are available. > > Or, is it just the profiler software that doesn't work? If so, get RBJoy > and > > use that instead. It's freeware. > > > > > > -- > > Slot > > > > Tweaks & Reviews > > www.slottweak.com > > > > > > > > "Uwe hoover Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > is it possible to install the MS FF Sidewinder Wheel software > > > on Win2k? It's the midi/gameport version, and while it's > > > detected fine as an input device, trying to install the > > > Profiler software fails with a "version conflict" or something. > > > > > > Cheers & TIA for your comments, > > > > > > uwe > > > > > > PS: I'm asking this on behalf of a friend w/o usenet access > > > > > > > > > -- > > > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > > > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > > > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > > > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002 > > > > > >

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:50:28 GMT, Larry wrote: > There is NO profiler software available for the GamePort version under 2K/XP > and there never will be. Microsoft will never support this configuration. > > Larry > Hi Larry et al., thanks for your replies. So would it still be possible to activate FF in GPL's core.ini (or whereever) and get FF effects from the gameport version of the wheel? It works fine as a non-ff 4 axis game controller and shows up in control panel. cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Not sure, but not likely. Doesn't the MSFF have a button on the wheel for turning on/off FF?

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> Hi Larry et al., thanks for your replies. So would it still be > possible to activate FF in GPL's core.ini (or whereever) and > get FF effects from the gameport version of the wheel? It works > fine as a non-ff 4 axis game controller and shows up in control > panel. > > cheers, > > uwe

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"GTX_SlotCar" <[email hidden]> writes: > Not sure, but not likely. Doesn't the MSFF have a button on the wheel for > turning on/off FF? Yes, but it's doesn't go into center spring emulation, the wheel just gets very loose :) Works wonders on long yellow flag periods.

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> > > Hi Larry et al., thanks for your replies. So would it still be > > possible to activate FF in GPL's core.ini (or whereever) and > > get FF effects from the gameport version of the wheel? It works > > fine as a non-ff 4 axis game controller and shows up in control > > panel. > > > > cheers, > > > > uwe > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/2003 > > >

-- Olav Malmin remove .spam when replying

Hi Uwe, I'm running an old gameport version MSFF under WinXP and have full Force Feedback and separate axis brake and accelerator. I have been using this configuration for well over 12 months without trouble - certainly well enough to get to -14 GPLRank! If you have it working without FF at the moment, then all you need to do is enable the FF in core.ini and it will work. -- - Peter Ogden Perth, Western Australia http://www.locost7.info "Uwe hoover Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:50:28 GMT, Larry wrote: > > There is NO profiler software available for the GamePort version under 2K/XP > > and there never will be. Microsoft will never support this configuration. > > > > Larry > > > > Hi Larry et al., thanks for your replies. So would it still be > possible to activate FF in GPL's core.ini (or whereever) and > get FF effects from the gameport version of the wheel? It works > fine as a non-ff 4 axis game controller and shows up in control > panel. > > cheers, > > uwe > > > -- > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/2003