Mac OS X.2.3, F1 CS 2K, NASCAR 2K2

Ruud, et al., Passing on some nuggets from the Dan Greenberg mine, regarding F1 CS 2K/Mac. There's a crap load here. Some of it may be useful to someone on RAS. I just wanted to be sure this info got posted before I lose it. To quote some recent emails, Dan Greenberg wrote: Saw this at: http://www.insidemacgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7361&sid= 0c4b2e286dfb16de4dc3d640780a3cf0 [regarding wheel calibration] If you have a wheel you should be able to hold the gas pedal at some middle-ground value to maintain speed. You say you keep accelerating even when not pressing the pedal? Sounds like a config issue. Go to the controller screen and verify everything's as it should be (wheel = x-axis, pedals = y-axis (the pedals will have their � labels flipped in OS X due to a bug in HID, but that won't affect driving)). Once checked, enter a race or driving school and turn the wheel both directions as far as it'll go, and press each pedal as far as it'll go. Since there's no Input Sprocket any more, the game has to calibrate the wheel as you play (it guesses in the mean time), so doing this at the start of a race will ensure it's calibrated correctly. [Later in the same message:] Aaaand there may be MOMO issues with Nascar 2k2 too: http://www.insidemacgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7388&sid= 0c4b2e286dfb16de4dc3d640780a3cf0 Posted: Jan 08 2003, 10:46 pm Post subject: Nascar 2002, MOMO wheel, and OSX.2.3 not happy together Reply with quote Hi again all, I just picked up (the truly amazing) Nascar 2002 but I cannot get it to recognize most of the MOMO steering wheel (or my Exterminator game pad). When configuring the MOMO, the app does not see the wheel at all, and when I configure the gas and brake, the app thinks that I am steering. (FYI:the wheel and brake work fine in F1-2000.) The configuration interface in Nascar 2002 is horrible, but I am pretty sure that I have done the right things in the right place. Is anyone else having trouble getting Nascar to see your joystick, gamepad, or steering wheel? Thanks, Matt [In an earlier message Dan wrote:] Definitly send in a buggsie to [email hidden] and CC to [email hidden] (F1 2000 Support). Dair's post yesterday to IMG mentioned a test app called "HID_Scanner test" that Zonic is using to help troubleshoot F1 CS 2k. I asked about it and they sent me a copy. Small app (36 kb stuffed), it looks at the hardware level of all attached input devices (ignores keyboard), specifically the MOMO. It generates a text file which the user then sends back to Zonic. Definitely ask over at [email hidden] for a copy. For short term, try the "hard jerk in opposite direction" (tm) fix; its worked for me. Feel free to pass on/forward to Ruud. I've not been posting to RAS. I have (in anticipation of getting a PC, after all as a web dev I _really_ need a top level PC @ 3 gig w ati 9700 for F1 2k2/GPL, no wait! I mean for compatibility testing, yeah, thats it ;) , been grabbing tracks and the Turbo mod for F1 2k2. Strange, Simbin.com's domain has lapsed! I was able to get Brands hatch, Donington and other exclusive simbin stuff from: http://www.d-f1-c.de/pafiledb/pafiledb.php?action=category&id=5 Ciao, -dan What happened with the replay file I sent? Does it play as 2 shades of black? Can you send me a small 500k-1mb (I'm on 56k dialup), VCR file that has the problem? This may be an issue where deleting and reinstalling could be the fix. Also heard back from Pieter/Bob Van der Stok about the Zandvoort track (zandvoortf1.zip), which is indeed corupted. He's checking to see if he has a back up. Over at the Troubleshooting forum at IMG: 1)http://www.insidemacgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7341&sid=7cc24ac0b614c05d40fbdccb94a442dc and 2)http://www.insidemacgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7301&sid=7cc24ac0b614c05d40fbdccb94a442dc Dair Grant from Zoic (company that did the port for Feral) sez: 1) "We've had a couple of reports of this steering problem with the MOMO wheel, but I'm afraid we don't have a fix right now. However we are talking to Logitech about it, and are trying to establish if it's a problem in the MOMO driver or in F1 (it doesn't seem to happen with everyone, and even then it seems intermittent). It would be interesting to know if you have ever had this problem immediately after launching F1 - i.e., have you ever seen it on the first race after starting the game? If not then we may be able to work around it by disconnecting and reconnecting to the wheel on each race, rather than keeping the connection around until you quit. " 2) "If you've got a specific test which you don't think is behaving correctly, can you send us a mail so that we get it logged as a bug? If you can send it to: f1support AT feral.co.uk Then we'll open a bug to look into this. It may be controller related, so can you include details of what wheel/OS combination you're using - thanks." I think I can confirm/repeat a sharp leftward pull buggsie that runs you off track if not anticipated in the first or second Monza test, also think I can confirm a "bad user" (eg: drive the car into the wall _Before_ the 2nd test starts and see where the wheel resets to [;-)] buggsie or two in the Indy tests. When I get some time I will be doing some testing of the above as well as trying the "if no bug in first race then try un/re-plugging the wheel's usb" work-around and file a report(s) to [email hidden]. On another topic, I tried the "TurboFerrari.zip from the Hungarian site. It expands to F03gpxa.veh, a vehicle file which I put in the Ferrari folder hoping for an new sound, lag in acceleration, new skin or any/all three. Well it hosed all instances of Ferrari in the setup menu! No spinning car or driver images to choose from. Could not fix with my backup of the folder so I did a clean install of the app (put F1 CS 2000 folderinto the trash but did not empty it). This failed. So I went hardcore and again deleted the whole F1 CS 2000 folder, emptied trash then rebooted and ran permissions fix and reinstalled. That worked. Doing this I also found that the school preferences/records are not kept in the school folder. No idea where the game keeps it's records. Will be looking at the mod sites for info. Ah well, good luck and let's see what happens next. Ciao, -dan [An Even earlier post:] Hi Jim (and Dear Fereal and Zonic Support Readers), Sorry I've been a bit busy of late. I did see your post to r.a.s but have not had time to reply. Don't know if it will help but you should run "fix permissions" from Disk Utility before and after installing/updating the OS and apps. I think the MOMO issues are bugs needing updates from Fereal/Zonic and perhaps from Apple (let's see how folks w. the Nascar game make out). As to your replay issues (see below and my attachment), I think you may do well to reinstall. First some Mac gaming resources: http://www.insidemacgames.com/forum/ http://www.macgamer.com/wcgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/ -> Forums (sporadically offline including at the time of this writing) also fan sites Mac Racer X http://racer.twisteddot.net and http://www.macracing.tk (offline at the moment), neither of which have much of anything yet. I am registered at IMG as Speed, Trixie and Chim Chim [;)] and post on occasion. As of 01/05/03 Mac OS X is at 10.2.3 (6G30) and F1 CS 2k is at 1.0.1 My setup (from Apple system profiler): Snortport dual gig, 768 mb ram, 80 gig ATA, ATi 9000 driving two 22" monitors (it's a work box), Apple Extended USB Keyboard, USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse (Logitech Dual Optical w. USB Overdrive software), Logiteck MOMO -Product id- 49813 ($c295), Device Speed = low, Power (mA) = 500 My MOMO is the older red one with metal shifters on the wheel. Game set up is via Joystick icon (main screen) to "Controls/general Controls", with options (via red triangles, upper left corner w. pic of keyboard) to "Controls/Controller #1 Advanced Settings" (sensitivity, deadzone settings), and thence to "Controls/Controller #2 Advanced Settings". Other than this, I see on other way to tweak controller settings. However if you want to mess with the guts of the OS, and have installed ProjectBuilder check: System/Library/Frameworks/ForceFeedback.framework/Versions/A/ForceFeedback System/Library/Extensions/ImmersionForceFeedback.kext System/Library/Extensions/LogitechForceFeedback.kext I have not messed with the game's "Advanced Settings" (sensitivity, deadzone) yet. Nor have I played with the guts of the OS. Ahhh,... Here's an idea: usr/Library/Preferences/Electronic Arts/F1 2000/Preferences Data where my "Preferences Data" is: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <registry> <key name="HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT"> </key> <key name="HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG"> </key> <key name="HKEY_CURRENT_USER"> <key name="Software"> <key name="Electronic Arts"> <key name="F1 2000"> <key name="Setup"> <value name="FSAA" type="integer">4</value> </key> </key> </key> <key name="IndirectX"> <key name="DirectInput"> <key name="Config"> <value name="FlipYOnX" type="integer">1</value> <value name="ScaleX" type="double">1.000000</value> <value name="ScaleY" type="double">1.000000</value> <value name="ScaleZ" type="double">1.000000</value> <value name="TranslateX" type="double">0.000000</value> <value name="TranslateY" type="double">0.000000</value> <value name="TranslateZ" type="double">0.000000</value> </key> </key> </key> </key> </key> <key name="HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE"> <key name="Software"> </key> </key> <key name="HKEY_USERS"> </key> </registry> see if yours is different (and note the jest; <key name="IndirectX"> ;-) ? I would suspect that this file is modified by the settings in the game though. I noticed that USB Overdrive does not recoginze the MOMO, only the mouse (it has a setting for "joystick"). Perhaps the next iteration? Or do we really need/want another layer of setup controll ala Win/Logi/GPL? I have noticed various centering issues with the wheel. Sometimes at the start of any session (test day, quick race, GP, school) it is centered left, other times right. A sharp pull after starting usually fixes it. Often it will reappear later (eg: start Q Race centered left, pull right, later it re-centers right, pull left and all's well etc.). Also, sometimes there will be a jerk in one direction (IIRC very noticeable at the start of School/Indy test 2 ;-) , requiring the same "fix" (a jerk in the opposite direction). http://www.zonic.co.uk/games/f12000/updates.html "Fixed some problems with autocalibration of wheel controllers." Note word "some"! Bug reporting: http://www.zonic.co.uk/support/bugs.html Also see: http://www.insidemacgames.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7166&highlight=f1+2000+cs& sid=09e8ac41952129d0dd8bf366c10fa974 As to the replay problem, my closest experience is with several of the Hungarian hosted tracks (Treeline and ?), where the sky/stands/landscape and trees turn blue to where it meets the ground but the cars/track are ok. I have just run a test session, all driver aids on, fuel use off, a start and let cars pass then quit so as to get a small enough file (Silverstone.VCR-if you're in the States Speedtv is showing the '02 F3000 series Sun 8 pm EST and Mon 2pm EST, tonite is Silverstone) to send you as an attachment. Looks fine to me. Let me know how it works on your end. Other weirdnesses I have found: The replay files have the 'kind' (from get info) of Microsoft Excell binary (I have M$ Office installed), and the game's sound files (eg: TV_MAINSFX.map) all have the 'kind' of iConquer Map (iConquer is a shareware Risk clone which I also have installed). Files of both type, copied to the desktop and double clicked to open launch the respective apps, which inform that file type is unrecognizable (Excell), or Saved Game can't be opened (iConquer). Strange but no discernable effect on the game. When in doubt: 1) usr/Library/Preferences/Electronic Arts/F1 2000/Preferences Data Trash and run app for new file. 2) Applications/F1 CS 2000 Trash and reinstall!!!! Jim, Good luck and let me know about the replay! Feral/Zonic readers let me know if I can be of any assistance w. debugging beyond what is listed at http://www.zonic.co.uk/support/bugs.html. Ciao a tutti, -dan

The Carvalho Family wrote: > Passing on some nuggets from the Dan Greenberg mine, regarding F1 CS > 2K/Mac. There's a crap load here. Some of it may be useful to someone on Thanks for the summary Jim, although I wouldn't describe it as a 'crap load' personally ;) Anybody have any luck with installing add-on scgt/F1 cars in F1CS/Mac? Me had none so far, must say. To all Mac racers, be warned though, do not install QuickTime 6.1 since it will mess up F1CS. I read on the forums Feral has a beta fix, so mailing [email hidden] may help if you're in a bind. Regards, Ruud

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> The Carvalho Family wrote: > >> Passing on some nuggets from the Dan Greenberg mine, regarding F1 CS >> 2K/Mac. There's a crap load here. Some of it may be useful to someone on > > > Thanks for the summary Jim, although I wouldn't describe it as a 'crap > load' personally ;)

I only meant that there's a lot of it and that it has taken me a while to getting around to finally posting it. Sorry for the delays. I meant no disparagement to Dan and all the others who have so selflessly contributed to easing my ignorance. Jim

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> Ruud Dingemans wrote: > > > The Carvalho Family wrote: > > > >> Passing on some nuggets from the Dan Greenberg mine, regarding F1 CS > >> 2K/Mac. There's a crap load here. Some of it may be useful to someone on > > > > > > Thanks for the summary Jim, although I wouldn't describe it as a 'crap > > load' personally ;) > > > > Anybody have any luck with installing add-on scgt/F1 cars in > > F1CS/Mac? > > Me had none so far, must say. > > I only meant that there's a lot of it and that it has taken me a while > to getting around to finally posting it. Sorry for the delays. I meant > no disparagement to Dan and all the others who have so selflessly > contributed to easing my ignorance. > > Jim >

Hey hey, no disparagement taken ;)!!!!! Been a bit busy this month so I haven't had time to post here. Sorry. Thanks and props to Jim, Ruud, Pieter and all the Mac Racers. Have installed the 2002 Ferrari from: http://www.natazone.narod.ru/f1cs2000_3.htm For the first 2 installs of F1 CS 2k it worked fine, not using it in my current install. Since I'm having some 3rd party track probs (Zandvoort, Oesterreichring), I'm about due for another (#4) clean re-install of the app. :( That being the case, I'm going to try the Hungarian "TurboFerrari.zip" again (it expands to F03gpxa.veh), which last time I hoped would add new sound, lag in acceleration, new skin or any/all three, instead it hosed all instances of Ferrari in the setup menu! {ot} Anyone tried GL_Tron_0.62 yet (fun, free light cycle arcade game from 80's movie "Tron")? http://www.gltron.org {/ot} Ok, I'm off to crash F1 CS 2k, wish me luck ;0!!! -dan

Dan Greenberg wrote: > Have installed the 2002 Ferrari from: > http://www.natazone.narod.ru/f1cs2000_3.htm > For the first 2 installs of F1 CS 2k it worked fine, not using it in my Thanks for the link Dan, that's the first time confirmation that other (pc) cars can be used on the Mac as well, I think. Good luck with reinstall # 4 :) (I think I'm up for #6 unless things keep working as they are now ;) Regards, Ruud