RASCAR Race

For those who didn't read the full race announcement thread, the race is today, NOW, Saturday, the 11th. Sorry for the mistype of the day, but the date is correct :) Server is up, fyi. John

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > For those who didn't read the full race announcement thread, the race is > today, NOW, Saturday, the 11th. Sorry for the mistype of the day, but the > date is correct :) > > Server is up, fyi. Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen laps 7 and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9 and 45 cars did an exceptional job. Outstanding race.

Any way I can get a copy of the replay of those 18 laps? I forgot to save the replay of the race. If you could e-mail it to [email hidden] that would be great. David G Fisher "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > For those who didn't read the full race announcement thread, the raceis > > today, NOW, Saturday, the 11th. Sorry for the mistype of the day, butthe

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> > date is correct :) > > > > Server is up, fyi. > > Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen laps 7 > and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9 and 45 > cars did an exceptional job. > > Outstanding race.

Dave; I'll post a link for the server replay tomorrow. In the meantime, here's the results, looks like a good race: Official Standings F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS 1 1 21 ColinHarris 155.705 64 53* 185 Running 2 3 313 F_Jochmann -8.07 64 0 170 Running 3 6 11 R_Hromin -8.42 64 0 165 Running 4 5 7 Dick-Trickle -8.80 64 0 160 Running 5 9 43 JSimmons -22.79 64 1 160 Running 6 4 9 Steve Blankenship -22.83 64 10 155 Running 7 10 17 J_Verschueren -25.46 64 0 146 Running 8 2 15 BFarmer -30.03 64 0 142 Running 9 11 98 LTB-Racer -1L 63 0 138 Running 10 8 310 DaveGF -6L 58 0 134 Running 11 12 45 T_Hough -14L 50 0 130 Retired 12 13 49 ZZ Busch -40L 24 0 127 Retired 13 7 103 JLe -54L 10 0 124 Retired Caution Flags: 1 (3 laps) Lead Changes: 3 (3 drivers) Weather: Clear, 70 �F, Northeast 0 mph "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Any way I can get a copy of the replay of those 18 laps? I forgot to save > the replay of the race. If you could e-mail it to [email hidden]that

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> would be great. > > David G Fisher > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > For those who didn't read the full race announcement thread, the

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> is > > > today, NOW, Saturday, the 11th. Sorry for the mistype of the day, but > the > > > date is correct :) > > > > > > Server is up, fyi. > > > > Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen laps 7 > > and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9 and 45 > > cars did an exceptional job. > > > > Outstanding race. > >

Not for me, I was disco'd during my pit stop :-o Once I got back in I spent the last half of the race cruising around all by myself without a car in sight. Early laps were fun though, like John said. I thought 313, 11, 45, and Steve did a great job. I know I felt comfortable running close with them immediately even though they never raced in RASCAR races before. It was easy to see they were good. David G Fisher "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Dave; > I'll post a link for the server replay tomorrow. In the meantime,here's

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> the results, looks like a good race: > > Official Standings > > F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS > 1 1 21 ColinHarris 155.705 64 53* 185 Running > 2 3 313 F_Jochmann -8.07 64 0 170 Running > 3 6 11 R_Hromin -8.42 64 0 165 Running > 4 5 7 Dick-Trickle -8.80 64 0 160 Running > 5 9 43 JSimmons -22.79 64 1 160 Running > 6 4 9 Steve Blankenship -22.83 64 10 155 Running > 7 10 17 J_Verschueren -25.46 64 0 146 Running > 8 2 15 BFarmer -30.03 64 0 142 Running > 9 11 98 LTB-Racer -1L 63 0 138 Running > 10 8 310 DaveGF -6L 58 0 134 Running > 11 12 45 T_Hough -14L 50 0 130 Retired > 12 13 49 ZZ Busch -40L 24 0 127 Retired > 13 7 103 JLe -54L 10 0 124 Retired > > > > Caution Flags: 1 (3 laps) > Lead Changes: 3 (3 drivers) > Weather: Clear, 70 �F, Northeast 0 mph > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Any way I can get a copy of the replay of those 18 laps? I forgot to

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> > the replay of the race. If you could e-mail it to [email hidden] > that > > would be great. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > For those who didn't read the full race announcement thread, the > race > > is > > > > today, NOW, Saturday, the 11th. Sorry for the mistype of the day,

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> > the > > > > date is correct :) > > > > > > > > Server is up, fyi. > > > > > > Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen laps 7 > > > and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9 and 45 > > > cars did an exceptional job. > > > > > > Outstanding race. > > > > > >

They're all three in my league......I hope they don't see this<g> "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Not for me, I was disco'd during my pit stop :-o Once I got back in Ispent > the last half of the race cruising around all by myself without a car in > sight. Early laps were fun though, like John said. > > I thought 313, 11, 45, and Steve did a great job. I know I feltcomfortable

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> running close with them immediately even though they never raced in RASCAR > races before. It was easy to see they were good. > > David G Fisher > > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Dave; > > I'll post a link for the server replay tomorrow. In the meantime, > here's > > the results, looks like a good race: > > > > Official Standings > > > > F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS > > 1 1 21 ColinHarris 155.705 64 53* 185 Running > > 2 3 313 F_Jochmann -8.07 64 0 170 Running > > 3 6 11 R_Hromin -8.42 64 0 165 Running > > 4 5 7 Dick-Trickle -8.80 64 0 160 Running > > 5 9 43 JSimmons -22.79 64 1 160 Running > > 6 4 9 Steve Blankenship -22.83 64 10 155 Running > > 7 10 17 J_Verschueren -25.46 64 0 146 Running > > 8 2 15 BFarmer -30.03 64 0 142 Running > > 9 11 98 LTB-Racer -1L 63 0 138 Running > > 10 8 310 DaveGF -6L 58 0 134 Running > > 11 12 45 T_Hough -14L 50 0 130 Retired > > 12 13 49 ZZ Busch -40L 24 0 127 Retired > > 13 7 103 JLe -54L 10 0 124 Retired > > > > > > > > Caution Flags: 1 (3 laps) > > Lead Changes: 3 (3 drivers) > > Weather: Clear, 70 �F, Northeast 0 mph > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Any way I can get a copy of the replay of those 18 laps? I forgot to > save > > > the replay of the race. If you could e-mail it to [email hidden] > > that > > > would be great. > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > > For those who didn't read the full race announcement thread, the > > race > > > is > > > > > today, NOW, Saturday, the 11th. Sorry for the mistype of the day, > but > > > the > > > > > date is correct :) > > > > > > > > > > Server is up, fyi. > > > > > > > > Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen laps

7 > > > > and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9 and45

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> > > > cars did an exceptional job. > > > > > > > > Outstanding race. > > > > > > > > > > > >

No problem, glad it worked out. I usually work Saturdays, but took a few days off this week. "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Whoops. > > Forgot to say thanks for setting up the race. :-) > > David G Fisher > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > After the race, I said to Ginger and Jan that I thought they might be in > > your league if that was the server you guys use. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > They're all three in my league......I hope they don't see this<g> > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Not for me, I was disco'd during my pit stop :-o Once I got back in

I > > > spent > > > > the last half of the race cruising around all by myself without acar

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> in > > > > sight. Early laps were fun though, like John said. > > > > > > > > I thought 313, 11, 45, and Steve did a great job. I know I felt > > > comfortable > > > > running close with them immediately even though they never raced in > > RASCAR > > > > races before. It was easy to see they were good. > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Dave; > > > > > I'll post a link for the server replay tomorrow. In the

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> > > > here's > > > > > the results, looks like a good race: > > > > > > > > > > Official Standings > > > > > > > > > > F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS > > > > > 1 1 21 ColinHarris 155.705 64 53* 185 Running > > > > > 2 3 313 F_Jochmann -8.07 64 0 170 Running > > > > > 3 6 11 R_Hromin -8.42 64 0 165 Running > > > > > 4 5 7 Dick-Trickle -8.80 64 0 160 Running > > > > > 5 9 43 JSimmons -22.79 64 1 160 Running > > > > > 6 4 9 Steve Blankenship -22.83 64 10 155 Running > > > > > 7 10 17 J_Verschueren -25.46 64 0 146 Running > > > > > 8 2 15 BFarmer -30.03 64 0 142 Running > > > > > 9 11 98 LTB-Racer -1L 63 0 138 Running > > > > > 10 8 310 DaveGF -6L 58 0 134 Running > > > > > 11 12 45 T_Hough -14L 50 0 130 Retired > > > > > 12 13 49 ZZ Busch -40L 24 0 127 Retired > > > > > 13 7 103 JLe -54L 10 0 124 Retired > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Caution Flags: 1 (3 laps) > > > > > Lead Changes: 3 (3 drivers) > > > > > Weather: Clear, 70 �F, Northeast 0 mph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Any way I can get a copy of the replay of those 18 laps? I

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> to > > > > save > > > > > > the replay of the race. If you could e-mail it to > > [email hidden] > > > > > that > > > > > > would be great. > > > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > > > > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > > > > > For those who didn't read the full race announcement

thread, > > the > > > > > race > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > today, NOW, Saturday, the 11th. Sorry for the mistype ofthe

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> > day, > > > > but > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > date is correct :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Server is up, fyi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen > > laps > > > 7 > > > > > > > and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9 > and > > > 45 > > > > > > > cars did an exceptional job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Outstanding race. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

After the race, I said to Ginger and Jan that I thought they might be in your league if that was the server you guys use. David G Fisher "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> They're all three in my league......I hope they don't see this<g> > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Not for me, I was disco'd during my pit stop :-o Once I got back in I > spent > > the last half of the race cruising around all by myself without a car in > > sight. Early laps were fun though, like John said. > > > > I thought 313, 11, 45, and Steve did a great job. I know I felt > comfortable > > running close with them immediately even though they never raced in

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> > races before. It was easy to see they were good. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Dave; > > > I'll post a link for the server replay tomorrow. In the meantime, > > here's > > > the results, looks like a good race: > > > > > > Official Standings > > > > > > F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS > > > 1 1 21 ColinHarris 155.705 64 53* 185 Running > > > 2 3 313 F_Jochmann -8.07 64 0 170 Running > > > 3 6 11 R_Hromin -8.42 64 0 165 Running > > > 4 5 7 Dick-Trickle -8.80 64 0 160 Running > > > 5 9 43 JSimmons -22.79 64 1 160 Running > > > 6 4 9 Steve Blankenship -22.83 64 10 155 Running > > > 7 10 17 J_Verschueren -25.46 64 0 146 Running > > > 8 2 15 BFarmer -30.03 64 0 142 Running > > > 9 11 98 LTB-Racer -1L 63 0 138 Running > > > 10 8 310 DaveGF -6L 58 0 134 Running > > > 11 12 45 T_Hough -14L 50 0 130 Retired > > > 12 13 49 ZZ Busch -40L 24 0 127 Retired > > > 13 7 103 JLe -54L 10 0 124 Retired > > > > > > > > > > > > Caution Flags: 1 (3 laps) > > > Lead Changes: 3 (3 drivers) > > > Weather: Clear, 70 �F, Northeast 0 mph > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Any way I can get a copy of the replay of those 18 laps? I forgot to > > save > > > > the replay of the race. If you could e-mail it to

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> > > that > > > > would be great. > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > > > For those who didn't read the full race announcement thread,

the > > > race > > > > is > > > > > > today, NOW, Saturday, the 11th. Sorry for the mistype of theday,

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> > but > > > > the > > > > > > date is correct :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Server is up, fyi. > > > > > > > > > > Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen

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> 7 > > > > > and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9 and > 45 > > > > > cars did an exceptional job. > > > > > > > > > > Outstanding race. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Whoops. Forgot to say thanks for setting up the race. :-) David G Fisher "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> After the race, I said to Ginger and Jan that I thought they might be in > your league if that was the server you guys use. > > David G Fisher > > > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > They're all three in my league......I hope they don't see this<g> > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Not for me, I was disco'd during my pit stop :-o Once I got back in I > > spent > > > the last half of the race cruising around all by myself without a car

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> > > sight. Early laps were fun though, like John said. > > > > > > I thought 313, 11, 45, and Steve did a great job. I know I felt > > comfortable > > > running close with them immediately even though they never raced in > RASCAR > > > races before. It was easy to see they were good. > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Dave; > > > > I'll post a link for the server replay tomorrow. In the meantime, > > > here's > > > > the results, looks like a good race: > > > > > > > > Official Standings > > > > > > > > F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS > > > > 1 1 21 ColinHarris 155.705 64 53* 185 Running > > > > 2 3 313 F_Jochmann -8.07 64 0 170 Running > > > > 3 6 11 R_Hromin -8.42 64 0 165 Running > > > > 4 5 7 Dick-Trickle -8.80 64 0 160 Running > > > > 5 9 43 JSimmons -22.79 64 1 160 Running > > > > 6 4 9 Steve Blankenship -22.83 64 10 155 Running > > > > 7 10 17 J_Verschueren -25.46 64 0 146 Running > > > > 8 2 15 BFarmer -30.03 64 0 142 Running > > > > 9 11 98 LTB-Racer -1L 63 0 138 Running > > > > 10 8 310 DaveGF -6L 58 0 134 Running > > > > 11 12 45 T_Hough -14L 50 0 130 Retired > > > > 12 13 49 ZZ Busch -40L 24 0 127 Retired > > > > 13 7 103 JLe -54L 10 0 124 Retired > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Caution Flags: 1 (3 laps) > > > > Lead Changes: 3 (3 drivers) > > > > Weather: Clear, 70 �F, Northeast 0 mph > > > > > > > > > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Any way I can get a copy of the replay of those 18 laps? I forgot

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> > > save > > > > > the replay of the race. If you could e-mail it to > [email hidden] > > > > that > > > > > would be great. > > > > > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > > > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > > > > For those who didn't read the full race announcement thread, > the > > > > race > > > > > is > > > > > > > today, NOW, Saturday, the 11th. Sorry for the mistype of the > day, > > > but > > > > > the > > > > > > > date is correct :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Server is up, fyi. > > > > > > > > > > > > Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen > laps > > 7 > > > > > > and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9

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> > 45 > > > > > > cars did an exceptional job. > > > > > > > > > > > > Outstanding race. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen laps 7 > and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9 and 45 > cars did an exceptional job. > > Outstanding race. Thanks John, that was good fun. And everyone did a great job; especially Colin, who was a couple tenths quicker than anyone in clean air. Gotta figure out how he does that. ;-) But not so exceptional for the 9 car; highlights of my blundering path to 6th. 1. Completely un-aided, I brought out the only caution by spinning out of 4th on lap 3. It should've dawned on me then that the big red Dodge was no Lotus and backing it in was unwise. If that wasn't bad enough already, I collected one car directly in the process, ruining his day and causing mucho scatterage and mayhem behind. My bad; apologies to JLe and anyone else who was affected. 2. After going green again, I nearly took you out when I got into a bit of a tank-slapper out of 2 trying to get a run underneath you. Nice save, BTW! Finally had some good clean laps, especially once I figured out the trail-braking, late-apex thing wasn't working and ended up in the lead after the front-runners pitted about mid-way. 3. Of course I then wasted about five seconds or so by staying out to the bitter end of my pit window, running mid 54's on toasted tires for 5 or 6 laps. Duhhh. 4. Now it gets good. As the crew were yelling for me to come in, I completely spaced out my pit entry and grabbed the brakes too late, sliding into the pits with 4 locked tires at uh... 121mph. Oops! That blew at least one tire, so it was a good thing I was getting some new ones... ;-) It also earned me a nice 15-second penalty, which ended up being 1 second more than the gap from 6th to 2nd. Should've sped on in once I'd blown it; probably would've saved another four or five seconds. Double Duhhh. 5. Finally, I miscalculated the finish by 0.05 sec. C'est la vie... ;-) Yep, a fraught race, as Sam Posey would say. But great fun; I hope I can make more of them. Well done all, and thanks to John P. for hosting! Cheers, SB

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Whoops. > > Forgot to say thanks for setting up the race. :-) > > David G Fisher Same here - thanks a lot, John!

On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 23:13:26 GMT, John Simmons wrote: > Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen laps 7 > and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9 and 45 > cars did an exceptional job. > > Outstanding race. Well, that was probably because I had bad connectivity problems 8-P I wonder if fellow racers have experienced this, so here goes: I could join the race just fine and had a reasonable ping (167 or so, I'm on xDSL) to the server, but once I leave the pitlane about halfway down the first lap the quality meter goes through the roof and Poof! I disco. I tried other N2002 servers, same problem. Rebooted, went to VROC, GPL works fine online. Back to N2002, same problem! I'm stumped and have no idea where to look for clues. Any ideas? Cheers & thanks in advance, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

Colin Harris wrote:

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> > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Whoops. > > > > Forgot to say thanks for setting up the race. :-) > > > > David G Fisher > > Same here - thanks a lot, John!

Nice going Bomber....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen laps 7 > > and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9 and 45 > > cars did an exceptional job. > > > > Outstanding race. > > Thanks John, that was good fun. And everyone did a great job; especially > Colin, who was a couple tenths quicker than anyone in clean air. Gotta > figure out how he does that. ;-) But not so exceptional for the 9 car; > highlights of my blundering path to 6th. > > 1. Completely un-aided, I brought out the only caution by spinning out of > 4th on lap 3. It should've dawned on me then that the big red Dodge was no > Lotus and backing it in was unwise. If that wasn't bad enough already, I > collected one car directly in the process, ruining his day and causing mucho > scatterage and mayhem behind. My bad; apologies to JLe and anyone else who > was affected.

I went by you on the low side as you were coming to a stop after spinning, and just barely clipped you (enough to damage my car). Then, JLe tagged you pretty good. I'm surprised that you had much of a car left at all, but for the rest of the race, you dind't even show any damage that I could see. This is another great example of the sim's crappy damage model. :-) > 2. After going green again, I nearly took you out when I got into a bit of a > tank-slapper out of 2 trying to get a run underneath you. Nice save, BTW! It was definitely exciting. I personally think I make some of the most amazing saves in the game. I don't know if it's because I'm a good driver or just used to trying to recover from a spin, loop, wreck, slide, etc... > Finally had some good clean laps, especially once I figured out the > trail-braking, late-apex thing wasn't working and ended up in the lead after > the front-runners pitted about mid-way. This ain't GPL... :) > 3. Of course I then wasted about five seconds or so by staying out to the > bitter end of my pit window, running mid 54's on toasted tires for 5 or 6 > laps. Duhhh. I was down to 3 pounds of fuel pressure before I stopped. I stayed out long enough to even lead a lap (I stopped on the lap after you). > 5. Finally, I miscalculated the finish by 0.05 sec. C'est la vie... ;-) What the heck happened to you after turn 4? You had me beat for 5th by a country mile and for no apparent reason, you just slowed down. I was ready to settle for 6th place. Back behind you (with about 8 laps to go), Brian Farmer was real slow going into a turn, with Jan and me right on his butt. Brian drifted high into the turn, and by that time, I'd snuck a fender under Jan. Jan got snookered in behind Brian, and I passed 'em both in the chute. Like I said before, that was some of the best racing I've ever seen online (in the Nascar sims). We need more people like you (and the 45 and 11 cars) in RASCAR. Of course, that means I'll finish that much further back most of the time, but hey, it'll be fun anyway. :)

On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:43:35 GMT, "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Same here - thanks a lot, John! Nice one, Col. Looks like you dominated that one. Go FFRL! ;) - Greger

"Greger Huttu" <greger.huttu@netikka.??> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 09:43:35 GMT, "Colin Harris" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Same here - thanks a lot, John! > > Nice one, Col. Looks like you dominated that one. Go FFRL! ;) > > - Greger

Thanks, GH! We've had quite a bit of success in Rascar races - Ginger's had quite a few wins, I've won a couple and Neil Charlton won too, I think... As an aside, if any reputable racers would like to race in FFRL ( http://ffrl.racesimcentral.com ) I'd be more than interested. We've got 8 races to go this season, so it's a perfect time to come in, have a look round, and be ready for season 4 which starts with N2003 in April. Races are at 2030 Euro time on Mondays (which is 1430 Eastern time, so only jobless Americans need apply!) Anyway, have a look round, and mail me if any of you fancy it. :-))))

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... <snip> I went by you on the low side as you were coming to a stop after > spinning, and just barely clipped you (enough to damage my car). > Then, JLe tagged you pretty good. I'm surprised that you had much of > a car left at all, but for the rest of the race, you dind't even show > any damage that I could see. This is another great example of the > sim's crappy damage model. :-) Yeah, I pitted right after and the boys were workin those hammers pretty hard. But that was a bit of a stretch, I admit. TV quote: "just shows how tough these Dodges are!" ;-) <snip> I was down to 3 pounds of fuel pressure before I stopped. I stayed > out long enough to even lead a lap (I stopped on the lap after you). Kinda hate to admit it, but I wasn't even sure if we were supposed to pit or not going into the race, and almost wrecked once looking for the gas guage. Saw it was pressure, and figured I'd get a pit call so I stayed out. Got a bit to learn. <snip> What the heck happened to you after turn 4? You had me beat for 5th > by a country mile and for no apparent reason, you just slowed down. > I was ready to settle for 6th place. > A miscalculation; since we were so close the last few laps, and it WAS Indy, thought I'd try what Schumacher had failed at. I flubbed it too; this must really BE a sim! > Like I said before, that was some of the best racing I've ever seen > online (in the Nascar sims). > Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I'm not usually around when these things are run, but I'll definitely try to make them when I can. Might even venture into the paint shop, though I'm artistically challenged. Thanks for the good racing! SB

The race was fun, but you guys just ran away from me. I was struggling just to see the tails of you. When it came time for me to be lapped, I just pulled over and quit. I was going to be a hazard and didn't want to ruin anyone's fun. Thanks John for hosting. Maybe we can start doing this every week or so again. Heaven knows I need the practice. lol ZZ Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League CORS RASCAR GPL Rank + 17.415 MoGPL Rank + 318.586 N2002 Rank + 7.695 http://www.ZZBusch.com ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: A good carpenter can nail anything -----------------

John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote <snip> >This is another great example of the > sim's crappy damage model. :-) Not disagreeing here, John, cause I've driven damaged cars that didn't seem to lose anything when damaged much more than I got at Indy, but... Having qual'd well on Sat (really nailed about 7/8ths of the 2nd Q lap & a PB at Indy w/o draft), I started 2nd & was doing well keeping up w/ Colin for the 1st ~15 laps or so when I slid out of turn 2 & smacked the wall w/ the RF. Thinking that with such little damage (a bit of the hood came up), I would remain competitive. Only took a turn or two to discover that the car wouldn't turn in anymore :( Also increased wear on the RF dramatically, forcing me to pit for tires at ~lap 34. Don't know if the damage was modeled as loss of aero, camber change, toe change, or possibly I just couldn't drive it right... who knows? (I should have checked tire temps, but didn't think of it then) I just couldn't seem to maintain the same corner speeds (at least 3-4 mph less) as b4 the "minor" contact w/ the wall, even on fresh tires. Which leads us to... <snip some more> > Back behind you (with about 8 laps to go), Brian Farmer was real slow > going into a turn, with Jan and me right on his butt. Brian drifted > high into the turn, and by that time, I'd snuck a fender under Jan. > Jan got snookered in behind Brian, and I passed 'em both in the > chute. For a number of laps, I was watching Steve, Jan, & you gaining by at least 1 - 1 1/2 sec per lap (not only gaining on me, but also running closer together each time I looked) & realized, Oh sh**, I'm gonna be in the way. I was hoping to let all 3 by w/out creating a problem or losing too much ground (still had hopes of catching the draft) so I went to the low side on the BS. When I went into turn 3, the car wouldn't TURN! (Might have had something to do with missing my mark) Still don't know how Jan missed the dummy sliding across in front of him, but his reflexes kept us both off the wall... Sorry again, Jan. <sigh> A few times I've gotten damage (noticeable & fairly major) to the rear of the car, & the car became *way* loose, but this is the first time I've noticed a car get *way* pushy with comparatively minimal damage to the front. Oh, and did I mention that I'm sorry, Jan? > Like I said before, that was some of the best racing I've ever seen > online (in the Nascar sims). Agreed (Well, 'cept for the 15 car...) <sigh> -Brian

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>In article <[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... >> For those who didn't read the full race announcement thread, the race is >> today, NOW, Saturday, the 11th. Sorry for the mistype of the day, but the >> date is correct :) >> >> Server is up, fyi. > >Only one caution the entire race, and I gotta say that bewteen laps 7 >and 25 was the best racing I've ever seen online. IMHO, the 9 and 45 >cars did an exceptional job. > >Outstanding race.

What track did you guys run? I should have tried to get in the race - I got crashed out of my MoG race, dammit... :-( Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> > John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote > > <snip> > > >This is another great example of the > > sim's crappy damage model. :-) > > Not disagreeing here, John, cause I've driven damaged cars that didn't seem to > lose anything when damaged much more than I got at Indy, but... > > Having qual'd well on Sat (really nailed about 7/8ths of the 2nd Q lap & a PB > at Indy w/o draft), I started 2nd & was doing well keeping up w/ Colin for the > 1st ~15 laps or so when I slid out of turn 2 & smacked the wall w/ the RF. > Thinking that with such little damage (a bit of the hood came up), I would > remain competitive. Only took a turn or two to discover that the car wouldn't > turn in anymore :( Also increased wear on the RF dramatically, forcing me to > pit for tires at ~lap 34. Don't know if the damage was modeled as loss of > aero, camber change, toe change, or possibly I just couldn't drive it right... > who knows? (I should have checked tire temps, but didn't think of it then) > I just couldn't seem to maintain the same corner speeds (at least 3-4 mph > less) as b4 the "minor" contact w/ the wall, even on fresh tires. Which leads > us to...

Steve's car got pretty well creamed by Jle in the right-rear quarter panel, but it didn't appear to affect his lap speeds. I think maybe the damage model is more deliberate where the front end is concerned, hence the descrepencies. (The preceding remark was not intended as a nationalistic or racial slur, and any reference to anyone living or dead should not imply the above statement as fact, conjecture, truth,rumor, opinion, or religious belief).

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> > Back behind you (with about 8 laps to go), Brian Farmer was real slow > > going into a turn, with Jan and me right on his butt. Brian drifted > > high into the turn, and by that time, I'd snuck a fender under Jan. > > Jan got snookered in behind Brian, and I passed 'em both in the > > chute. > > For a number of laps, I was watching Steve, Jan, & you gaining by at least 1 - > 1 1/2 sec per lap (not only gaining on me, but also running closer together > each time I looked) & realized, Oh sh**, I'm gonna be in the way. I was > hoping to let all 3 by w/out creating a problem or losing too much ground > (still had hopes of catching the draft) so I went to the low side on the BS. > When I went into turn 3, the car wouldn't TURN! (Might have had something to > do with missing my mark) Still don't know how Jan missed the dummy sliding > across in front of him, but his reflexes kept us both off the wall... Sorry > again, Jan. <sigh>

Yeah, Jan and I entered the turn and you slid high going into the chute ahead of us. By the time everyone realized what was happening, I was underneath Jan and he had to wait till I went by. :)

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > What track did you guys run? I should have tried to get in the race - I got > crashed out of my MoG race, dammit... :-( > > Eldred > Indy.

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>In article <[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... >> >> What track did you guys run? I should have tried to get in the race - I >got >> crashed out of my MoG race, dammit... :-( >> >> Eldred >> > >Indy. >

Maybe it's just as well that I missed it - I'm *way* off the pace there... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> <snip> > Not disagreeing here, John, cause I've driven damaged > cars that didn't seem to lose anything when damaged > much more than I got at Indy, but... > > <snip> > > For a number of laps, I was watching Steve, Jan, & > you gaining by at least 1 - 1 1/2 sec per lap (not > only gaining on me, but also running closer together > each time I looked) & realized, Oh sh**, I'm gonna > be in the way. I was hoping to let all 3 by w/out > creating a problem or losing too much ground (still > had hopes of catching the draft) so I went to the > low side on the BS. > When I went into turn 3, the car wouldn't TURN! > (Might have had something to do with missing my mark) > Still don't know how Jan missed the dummy sliding > across in front of him, but his reflexes kept us both > off the wall... Sorry again, Jan. <sigh>

No worries Bryan... that's racin'. <g> Jan. =---