Legends of Motorsport - F1 in 1951

Speed channel aired a program - "Legends of Motorsport - European Motor Racing 1951". It has footage of F1 at Silverstone and the Nurburgring, and the legendary Juan Manuel Fangio. I have video captured this program and am currently posting it to alt.binaries.simulators.autos The video is in DivX 5.02 format, so you need the free codec available at http://www.divx.com/divx Enjoy!

On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:17:48 GMT, Ped Xing <[email hidden]> wrote: >Speed channel aired a program - "Legends of Motorsport - European Motor >Racing 1951". It has footage of F1 at Silverstone and the Nurburgring, and >the legendary Juan Manuel Fangio. > >I have video captured this program and am currently posting it to >alt.binaries.simulators.autos Great, really appreciate it :) Maxx

I'm not familiar with how to grab multi-part yEnc posts like that. Could you suggest a good program for doing that? "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Speed channel aired a program - "Legends of Motorsport - European Motor > Racing 1951". It has footage of F1 at Silverstone and the Nurburgring,and

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> the legendary Juan Manuel Fangio. > > I have video captured this program and am currently posting it to > alt.binaries.simulators.autos > > The video is in DivX 5.02 format, so you need the free codec available at > http://www.divx.com/divx > > Enjoy!

Haqsau wrote: > > I'm not familiar with how to grab multi-part yEnc posts like that. Could > you suggest a good program for doing that? The one you used to post that message with will do it for you :-), can't remember the specifics as I don't use OE myself, but I seem to remember that you had to mark all messages for DL or something Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Tried that, unfortunately all it did was give me a huge text file. Normally when I combine binaries in OE it gives me a binary attachment. I don't think it understands yEnc. "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Haqsau wrote: > > > > I'm not familiar with how to grab multi-part yEnc posts like that.Could

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> > you suggest a good program for doing that? > > The one you used to post that message with will do it for you :-), can't > remember the specifics as I don't use OE myself, but I seem to remember > that you had to mark all messages for DL or something > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:avs1g9$i6nd4$[email hidden]: > I'm not familiar with how to grab multi-part yEnc posts like that. > Could you suggest a good program for doing that? OE is rubbish for binaries! Try this program http://xnews.newsguy.com/

I managed to get as far as combining, saving, and ydecoding the file. Now I have a bunch of rar files. Winace just seems to want to decompress them individually. I assume there is some way of decompressing and combining them? Also, why the multiple formats? Not trying to flame, I just don't understand why it is necessary for me to go through so many steps to get this thing working. "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > OE is rubbish for binaries! Try this program http://xnews.newsguy.com/ >

Haqsau wrote: > > Tried that, unfortunately all it did was give me a huge text file. Normally > when I combine binaries in OE it gives me a binary attachment. I don't > think it understands yEnc. Serves me right for not reading the message I'm responding to properly, missed the yEnc part.....sorry Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

>"Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote > OE is rubbish for binaries! So does yEncing binaries. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Well I figured out the yEnc part. Now I guess I have to go get WinRAR too. This is just annoying. Despite the fact that I have XP which natively supports zip format, I still have to have four other decoders/decompressors to use files from the internet. Don't get me wrong, I am grateful to Ped Xing for uploading the files, I just wish people would stop inventing new formats for no particular reason... <grumble> <grumble> "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Serves me right for not reading the message I'm responding to properly, > missed the yEnc part.....sorry > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:gDlU9.2290 $[email hidden]: >>"Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote >> OE is rubbish for binaries! > > > So does yEncing binaries. Not quite. It is done to cut down on posting size, which helps propagation and retention. Usenet servers are being overloaded with binaries so anything that can be done to cut down on size is a good thing, in my opinion. Of course, nobody is forcing you to download the files. I didn't have to go to the trouble of posting it and could have just kept the video for my own use. But I figured some in this group would enjoy it, so I decided to share. Since people want to complain about something that is freely given, I will cease to do this sort of thing in the future. Finally, I wasn't speaking to you, so your reply wasn't needed or wanted.

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:avsn0t$it1sq$[email hidden]: > I managed to get as far as combining, saving, and ydecoding the file. > Now I have a bunch of rar files. Winace just seems to want to > decompress them individually. I assume there is some way of > decompressing and combining them? Also, why the multiple formats? > Not trying to flame, I just don't understand why it is necessary for > me to go through so many steps to get this thing working. This is a good, free program: http://www.ultimatezip.com/ Just double-click the part01.rar and extract. The procedure I followed for posting is pretty standard for those dealing with large binaries in newsgroups. I was not doing anything abnormal. I am sorry you find it too much trouble. Why the multiple formats? Posting one large avi in one message is a bad idea for several reasons, one of which is that it makes is very likely the whole thing won't come through. Having it in chunks also enables the use of parity files (SmartPAR). http://www.smr-usenet.com/tutor/smartpar.shtml

"Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:gDlU9.2290 > $[email hidden]: > > >>"Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote > >> OE is rubbish for binaries! > > > > > > So does yEncing binaries. > Finally, I wasn't speaking to you, so your reply wasn't needed or wanted.

I don't think that's really called for. This is an open newsgroup, you are talking to everyone. I couldn't get the thing to work either, and it's a shame, but there you go. Thanks for trying, and for those more savvy than me I hope it's good, but personally I don't usually use binary newsgroups much, and some instructions in the first post (your original message here) might have helped. I hope you continue to contribute to the community as it's always appreciated by someone, but please bear in mind that not everyone online is as clever as you ;-) Can you host it somewhere? Malc.

>"Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote > Finally, I wasn't speaking to you, so your reply wasn't needed or wanted. I'll reply to whoever I want, whenever I want, with whatever I want. I won't argue much, except to say that yEncing files is just bad and scam-like. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Ped, Thanks for the instructions, and thanks for posting the video. Hal "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > This is a good, free program: http://www.ultimatezip.com/ > > Just double-click the part01.rar and extract. > > The procedure I followed for posting is pretty standard for those dealing > with large binaries in newsgroups. I was not doing anything abnormal. I > am sorry you find it too much trouble. > > Why the multiple formats? Posting one large avi in one message is a bad > idea for several reasons, one of which is that it makes is very likely > the whole thing won't come through. Having it in chunks also enables the > use of parity files (SmartPAR). > > http://www.smr-usenet.com/tutor/smartpar.shtml

Okay I think I got it. I was confused by the different file types, but apparently some of those are only parity files? Anyway, is the end result one file of ~128 meg size? If so WinRAR worked and I just didn't realize it. Thanks again for the help. "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > This is a good, free program: http://www.ultimatezip.com/ > > Just double-click the part01.rar and extract. > > The procedure I followed for posting is pretty standard for those dealing > with large binaries in newsgroups. I was not doing anything abnormal. I > am sorry you find it too much trouble. > > Why the multiple formats? Posting one large avi in one message is a bad > idea for several reasons, one of which is that it makes is very likely > the whole thing won't come through. Having it in chunks also enables the > use of parity files (SmartPAR). > > http://www.smr-usenet.com/tutor/smartpar.shtml

Rar has been around as long or longer than Zip. "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avsque$iqm73$[email hidden]... > Well I figured out the yEnc part. Now I guess I have to go get WinRARtoo. > This is just annoying. Despite the fact that I have XP which natively > supports zip format, I still have to have four otherdecoders/decompressors

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> to use files from the internet. Don't get me wrong, I am grateful to Ped > Xing for uploading the files, I just wish people would stop inventing new > formats for no particular reason... <grumble> <grumble> > > > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Serves me right for not reading the message I'm responding to properly, > > missed the yEnc part.....sorry > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy > > > > http://www.theuspits.com > > > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > > --Groucho Marx-- > >

Okay, but do we really need both? Does Rar have capabilities that Zip does not? Again these are honest questions, I am not trying to get into anybody's shorts or anything. Well, not here anyway... "Michael Horton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JJoU9.14930$[email hidden]... > Rar has been around as long or longer than Zip. >

Actually now that I have gone and downloaded yEnc32 I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. It's free and there doesn't appear to be any adware. Granted it is another duplicate format and I don't know why we need it, but other than that why do you think it is bad? Just curious. "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aRnU9.992$[email hidden]...

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> > > I won't argue much, except to say that yEncing files is just bad and > scam-like. > > > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > >

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:avtbsh$jgifn$[email hidden]: > Okay, but do we really need both? Does Rar have capabilities that Zip > does not? Again these are honest questions, I am not trying to get > into anybody's shorts or anything. Well, not here anyway... > > I beleive RAR has superior compression routines. So the reason some folks USE rar is because the final product is smaller than the same file compressed with Zip. While their function is similar, the higher compression can be a cost saving factor for those web hosts who have to pay for file storage etc. dave henrie

On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:30:44 -0500, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Okay, but do we really need both? Does Rar have capabilities that Zip does >not? Again these are honest questions, I am not trying to get into >anybody's shorts or anything. Well, not here anyway... Well I don't know about needing... ,but if one would make a case that .rar is redundant b/c of .zip, .zip would be redundant b/c of .lzh, .gz, .arc, .lha and all the formats predating it by many years. ...ace on the other hand... ;-) The reason I don't like rar is that it isn't backwards-compatible. They keep changing the algorith between versions. A WinRAR3.0 file can't be opened by WinRAR2.5 for instance. pkzip has been the same for at least 12 years AFAIK. The main advantage it has is that it's capable of splitting the archive file easily into several files(.r00, .r01,... et.c.). With zip it gets trickier, I don't know if it's even possible in WinZip without archiving to floppy.

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avs1g9$i6nd4$[email hidden]... > I'm not familiar with how to grab multi-part yEnc posts like that. Could > you suggest a good program for doing that? Check out tucows for "Newsbin". It's a dedicated binary tool for usenet. multithreaded too (up to 6 threads) and pretty fast. Can run at the same time as your regular newsreader as well. You can point it at a newsgroup, give it a file mask and it will download every matching file. Even better, give it a list of 2000 newsgroups and go to bed. Be prepared to delete a lot of crap the next morning but there are always a few useful files. iksteh

>"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote > Actually now that I have gone and downloaded yEnc32 I'm not sure what all > the fuss is about. It's free and there doesn't appear to be any adware. > Granted it is another duplicate format and I don't know why we need it,but > other than that why do you think it is bad? Just curious. It still keeps everything wrong with uuencoding. It creates massive confusion for the users, for the small benefits of it. It's spreading like a plague. It doesn't rely on MIME content tagging. Anway I don't care anymore about binary files on the Usenet. I just think it's current status is completely shameful. > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote > > I won't argue much, except to say that yEncing files is just bad and > > scam-like. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:nRnU9.4672$xE1.680270@stones:

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>> > So does yEncing binaries. > >> Finally, I wasn't speaking to you, so your reply wasn't needed or >> wanted. > > I don't think that's really called for. This is an open newsgroup, you > are talking to everyone.

Yes, you are probably right. It was just my frustration coming to boil, I suppose. I have done quite a bit of binary posting in other groups in the past and never once have I heard a complaint or criticism when doing so. I have always tried to adhere to the popular, accepted methods of posting. > I couldn't get the thing to work either, and it's a shame, but there What exactly is the problem you are having? > you go. Thanks for trying, and for those more savvy than me I hope > it's good, but personally I don't usually use binary newsgroups much, > and some instructions in the first post (your original message here) > might have helped. Providing detailed, step by step instructions on how to download and process binaries from usenet is a bit beyond the scope of what I was trying to do. No, I don't assume everyone knows exactly what to do, so when people have mentioned having problems I have tried to point them in the right direction. > Can you host it somewhere? I wish I could! But serving bandwidth on the Internet is not free and not cheap. If someone has a site that could host a 125mb file I would gladly FTP it to them (or ICQ or whatever).

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:avt2hc$j55jr$[email hidden]: > Okay I think I got it. I was confused by the different file types, > but apparently some of those are only parity files? Anyway, is the > end result one file of ~128 meg size? If so WinRAR worked and I just > didn't realize it. Thanks again for the help. Yeah, the PAR, .P01 and .P02 are parity files. The movie should be 125mb. Does it play OK for you?

"Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What exactly is the problem you are having? OE. 'nuff said really. I tried downloading powergrab & powerpost to see if that worked any better, but I haven't figured them out yet, and I'm not really the type to ask for advice before I've tried to figure it out for myself, so I'm sure I'll work it out eventually, and rec.autos.simulators really isn't the place to ask. It occurs to me that if all the people went and found out how to do stuff for themselves usenet would be pretty empty, and therefore devoid of the answers to their questions. Therefore they would have to ask, and so usenet perpetuates... I like that. Malc.

Yes, it plays fine. Frankly now that I have done this once it doesn't seem so terribly hard, it's just that having never had to piece something like that together before, it seemed a bit more confusing that it really was. Anyway, haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing yet, but the little that I did see looks fantastic. Great job, Ped. "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Yeah, the PAR, .P01 and .P02 are parity files. The movie should be 125mb. > Does it play OK for you? >

I used OE but would not recommend it. It had to allocate a huge page file just to save the download and my poor machine thrashed for a good 20 minutes, despite having 384 meg of RAM and gobs of free disk space. I'm sure there is a better way to do it. Some other people have mentioned alternatives in this thread and based on my experience I would definitely say try them rather than trying to get OE to work. "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:n1IU9.12892$4k6.1129538@wards...

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> > OE. 'nuff said really. I tried downloading powergrab & powerpost to see if > that worked any better, but I haven't figured them out yet, and I'm not > really the type to ask for advice before I've tried to figure it out for > myself, so I'm sure I'll work it out eventually, and rec.autos.simulators > really isn't the place to ask. >

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avvmob$k7f7u$[email hidden]... > I used OE but would not recommend it. It had to allocate a huge page file > just to save the download and my poor machine thrashed for a good 20 > minutes, despite having 384 meg of RAM and gobs of free disk space. I'm > sure there is a better way to do it. Some other people have mentioned > alternatives in this thread and based on my experience I would definitely > say try them rather than trying to get OE to work. I tried the combine & decode in OE which only took a few seconds but then it produced a huge text file full of garbage & spent 20 odd minutes searching for URL's. I didn't realise the extra messages were for redundancy, so I had just picked one of each title to combine. I'll work it out eventually ;-) Malc.

Ahh, that's probably what mine was doing too then. "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RBJU9.12911$4k6.1132460@wards... > > I tried the combine & decode in OE which only took a few seconds but thenit > produced a huge text file full of garbage & spent 20 odd minutes searching > for URL's. >

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:n1IU9.12892$4k6.1129538@wards: > "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >> What exactly is the problem you are having? > > OE. 'nuff said really. I tried downloading powergrab & powerpost to Try Xnews http://xnews.newsguy.com/ The latest version supports yEnc by default.

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:avvmib$ivltc$[email hidden]: > that it really was. Anyway, haven't had a chance to watch the whole > thing yet, but the little that I did see looks fantastic. Great job, That's good to hear; I'm glad you got it going!

"Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Try Xnews > http://xnews.newsguy.com/ > > The latest version supports yEnc by default. Thanks for the suggestion. Malc.

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YyTU9.5054$xE1.727088@stones...

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> "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > Try Xnews > > http://xnews.newsguy.com/ > > > > The latest version supports yEnc by default. > > Thanks for the suggestion. > > Malc. > >

Or even (I found it really simple) Grabit from http://www.shemes.com/grabit/ Now, the question is:- "when do we get the Dunrod track for GPL?"

In article <[email hidden]>, Ped Xing <[email hidden]> writes: >I wish I could! But serving bandwidth on the Internet is not free and >not cheap. If someone has a site that could host a 125mb file I would >gladly FTP it to them (or ICQ or whatever). > <raises hand> You've got mail...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>I hope you continue to contribute to the community as it's always >appreciated by someone, but please bear in mind that not everyone online is >as clever as you ;-) > >Can you host it somewhere? > Let's see if this works... ftp://141.211.234.112/LM - European Motor Racing 1951.divx.zip (the original video) ftp://141.211.234.112/CD - Senna Crash.divx.zip (another video that PedX sent) Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

EldredP wrote: > > Let's see if this works... > ftp://141.211.234.112/LM - European Motor Racing 1951.divx.zip (the original > video) > ftp://141.211.234.112/CD - Senna Crash.divx.zip (another video that PedX sent) Sorta......don't use spaces in file names in FTP if you're going to provide a direct link, the hyperlink gets cut off at the first space :-), at least in Netscape File is there and DL fine though, thx for hosting Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:16:21 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: >ftp://141.211.234.112/LM Weird.. I can log in without a problem, but when I start the download it just doesn't start downloading.. the timer starts but it simply stays at 0kb download.. using cuteftp here.. Andre

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> > On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:16:21 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >ftp://141.211.234.112/LM > > Weird.. I can log in without a problem, but when I start the download > it just doesn't start downloading.. the timer starts but it simply > stays at 0kb download.. using cuteftp here..

Works fine here, didn't bother to fire up the FTP proggie as Opera handles it quite well....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 01:18:39 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: >Works fine here, didn't bother to fire up the FTP proggie as Opera >handles it quite well....:-) > > >Beers and cheers >(uncle) Goy just like Cuteftp, IE also doesn't start the download so I don't think the program I use is the problem :-/ Andre

In article <[email hidden]>, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> writes:

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>On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:16:21 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>ftp://141.211.234.112/LM > >Weird.. I can log in without a problem, but when I start the download >it just doesn't start downloading.. the timer starts but it simply >stays at 0kb download.. using cuteftp here..

Probably giving you problems because of the file name...sorry. I'll try to redo it this weekend. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> writes:

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>EldredP wrote: >> >> Let's see if this works... >> ftp://141.211.234.112/LM - European Motor Racing 1951.divx.zip (the >original >> video) >> ftp://141.211.234.112/CD - Senna Crash.divx.zip (another video that PedX >sent) > >Sorta......don't use spaces in file names in FTP if you're going to >provide a direct link, the hyperlink gets cut off at the first space >:-), at least in Netscape >

Yeah, I know - but I was just too lazy to rename it after I got it from PdeX...<g> >File is there and DL fine though, thx for hosting You're welcome. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.