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New to FF need advice with NR2002

7 posts by 5 people · 14 Jan 2003 02:28 UTC - 14 Jan 2003 19:48 UTC

John McClaren 14 Jan 2003 02:28 UTC#82280
A friend of mine just gave me a slightly used ( maybe a month) LWFF steering wheel and I was wondering what are the best settings for NR2002. I have set the non-linearity to 80% and the force and damping to 100. I have also set the wingman profiler to 130% for force. Is there anything else I can do to strengthing the force? I feel like there should be more output on this thing. How about a file edit somewhere in NR2002? Also do I have to have the wingman profiler running all the time? Sorry for all the questions but I have never had a FF wheel and this is all new to me. I have been racing for 5 years now and it just doesn't feel right. Maybe I have built up in my mind what is should feel like and this wheel just is not delivering. Just my thoughts. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, John
Im cutting my teeth on FF too after about 5 or 6 years of elastowheels. The first thing i noticed is you have damping pumped up to 100%. Damping is like shock absorbtion. Its offsetting whatever you have the forces set to, if im fiddling with my setup properly. After about 2 hours of dabbling with my new Momo FF wheel, ive settled on 75% force, 60% spring, and 25% damping (with GPL) just until i get a chance to get used to it more. I have this thing mounted to a wooden desk with an 1 1/4 thick top. It also doubles as a desk for my ham radio gear, and the drawers are filled with other PC/radio gear. The wheel has no problem shaking this "electric" desk of mine when testing the FF forces in the control panel. Fiddle with your settings, and if not satisfied, try another wheel at yonder electronic wonderland. Im guessing you have your settings wound up too tight maybe..
Turn Damping right down, start at zero & work your way up if need be, latency should also be as low as possible but what you need will depend entirely on your system. Also the amount of castor in your car setup will affect the force you feel. Can't help with wheel specific settings. Steve.
Try setting linearity to 100% first, that should increase the force in the center a bit. Also try a road course before you set it too high. The speedway settings should be pretty light, in real life they use very slow steering (high ratio) and also it is power assisted, so you shouldn't expect it to feel like a sports car. On road courses the use a much lower ratio (faster) steering gear which will probably feel very heavy at your current settings. "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FBKU9.18483$[email hidden]... > A friend of mine just gave me a slightly used ( maybe a month) LWFFsteering > wheel and I was wondering what are the best settings for NR2002. I haveset > the non-linearity to 80% and the force and damping to 100. I have also set > the wingman profiler to 130% for force. Is there anything else I can do to > strengthing the force? I feel like there should be more output on this > thing. How about a file edit somewhere in NR2002? Also do I have to havethe > wingman profiler running all the time? Sorry for all the questions but I > have never had a FF wheel and this is all new to me. I have been racingfor > 5 years now and it just doesn't feel right. Maybe I have built up in mymind
Quoted text (7 lines)> what is should feel like and this wheel just is not delivering. Just my > thoughts. Any advice will be appreciated. > > Thanks, > John > >
Thanks guys the damping helped a bunch but again I really don't notice a difference with FF, meaning I really can't tell get any feedback from the car when I am driving it. Yes there is a force on the wheel I have to fight to keep it in the turn but this force doesn't get lighter as the car gets looser. Shouldn't this force be variable, meaning it would get stronger as you approace the apex of a turn and lighten up as you exit? Yes the force on this wheel goes away as you exit the turn but it does it at the very end. Also I can't tell when the back end gets loose. Am I expecting too much or is there something else I can try? Thanks again, John "Steve Moses" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:avvuhg$l7a$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Turn Damping right down, start at zero & work your way up if need be, > latency should also be as low as possible but what you need will depend > entirely on your system. Also the amount of castor in your car setup will > affect the force you feel. Can't help with wheel specific settings. > > Steve. > >
Could try turning down the force setting in the profiler, if it's too high it can saturate the force so you get max force all the time. It can take time to get the settings right with FFB but when its right you should definately get a feel for tight & loose, especially with NR2002. Really with a good setup you shouldn't have too fight the force much on a speedway as there is less caster effect when the car is travelling in the proper direction. Keep tweaking the settings when you get it right it's definately worth it. Steve.
The FF in NR2002 is tied into the castor setting, so it's going to change with each track. In the default setups for the super speedways, castor is sometimes set at 0, so you won't feel much FF. The Damping setting in Win Controller Panel adds viscosity to the wheel. Think of it as trying to run in water up to your hips. It doesn't cancel Spring forces. Games like GPL and NR4 & up use Constant Forces for the force feedback programming, so Spring Gain in controller panel should be set to 0. (Spring Gain has no effect, but on some computers a setting other than 0 could cause spurious anomalies such as spiking.) -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "John McClaren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FBKU9.18483$[email hidden]... > A friend of mine just gave me a slightly used ( maybe a month) LWFF steering > wheel and I was wondering what are the best settings for NR2002. I have set > the non-linearity to 80% and the force and damping to 100. I have also set > the wingman profiler to 130% for force. Is there anything else I can do to > strengthing the force? I feel like there should be more output on this > thing. How about a file edit somewhere in NR2002? Also do I have to have the > wingman profiler running all the time? Sorry for all the questions but I > have never had a FF wheel and this is all new to me. I have been racing for > 5 years now and it just doesn't feel right. Maybe I have built up in my mind > what is should feel like and this wheel just is not delivering. Just my > thoughts. Any advice will be appreciated. > > Thanks, > John > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/2003

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