Need some help - Bummed with GPL

Hi all, Trying to install GPL. It is the Sold-Out software version. Install GPL, reboot, install the v1.2 patch, reboot, install the CPU fix to v1.202, reboot, install D3D patch. Problem is the game is slow. Menus are slow, driving is jerky, just sucks overall. The graphics are good looking though. Tried disabling a lot of the in game graphics options; same effect. Tried the OpenGL patch; same effect. Game runs ver slow and jerky. System is a Soyo SY-KT400, XP2400, 512MB DDR, WinXP Pro SP1 w/ latest bug fixes from MS, Video is a GF4 Ti4200 w/41.80 drivers. Installed DirectX 9 (since I had to reinstall). System passes all directX tests, 3D benchmark of 11765, NAS2002 and F12002/GTR2002 both run great, as they should. Anyone have any ideas/help ? Thanks, Goober

"Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3e2b9ca4$0$55892$4

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> > System passes all directX tests, 3D benchmark of 11765, NAS2002 and > F12002/GTR2002 both run great, as they should. > > Anyone have any ideas/help ? > > Thanks, Goober

Have you made sure you are using the d3d or opengl video? Even tho you hae the patches installed, you still have to choose between the two 3d drivers or the software mode. 2nd. Have you examined the core.ini file and set your 3d section up to match your type of video card.(if there are no settings for the GF4, check the readme file.) Racesim central has an updated Opengl driver that works very well with GF cards. Search for it in the GPL forum.

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> "Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3e2b9ca4$0$55892$4 > > > > System passes all directX tests, 3D benchmark of 11765, NAS2002 and > > F12002/GTR2002 both run great, as they should. > > > > Anyone have any ideas/help ? > > > > Thanks, Goober > > Have you made sure you are using the d3d or opengl video? Even tho

you > hae the patches installed, you still have to choose between the two 3d > drivers or the software mode. 2nd. Have you examined the core.ini file > and set your 3d section up to match your type of video card.(if there are > no settings for the GF4, check the readme file.) Racesim central has an > updated Opengl driver that works very well with GF cards. Search for itin > the GPL forum. > > Yes I have selected the D3D or OpenGL in the sim, rebooted and then selected the resolution. I have downloaded the Racesim Central OpenGL driver and tried it. No luck with either. GPL runs like it is in a tub of molasses; it is slow and jerky. I have not examined the core.ini yet. Grew weary last night and need to get some work don today. I will check it out this afternoon. My controller is a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GB if that would have anything to do with it. Thanks

Have you installed the cpu speed patch? "Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet news:3e2c1c8a$0$162$[email hidden]...

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> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3e2b9ca4$0$55892$4 > > > > > > System passes all directX tests, 3D benchmark of 11765, NAS2002 and > > > F12002/GTR2002 both run great, as they should. > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas/help ? > > > > > > Thanks, Goober > > > > Have you made sure you are using the d3d or opengl video? Even tho > you > > hae the patches installed, you still have to choose between the two 3d > > drivers or the software mode. 2nd. Have you examined the core.ini file > > and set your 3d section up to match your type of video card.(if there

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> > no settings for the GF4, check the readme file.) Racesim central has an > > updated Opengl driver that works very well with GF cards. Search for it > in > > the GPL forum. > > > > > > Yes I have selected the D3D or OpenGL in the sim, rebooted and then

selected > the resolution. I have downloaded the Racesim Central OpenGL driver and > tried it. No luck with either. GPL runs like it is in a tub of molasses;it > is slow and jerky. > I have not examined the core.ini yet. Grew weary last night and need toget

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> some work don today. I will check it out this afternoon. > > My controller is a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GB if that would have > anything to do with it. > > Thanks > >

"Jan-Erik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AQXW9.7133$[email hidden]...

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> Have you installed the cpu speed patch? > > "Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet > news:3e2c1c8a$0$162$[email hidden]... > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > "Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3e2b9ca4$0$55892$4 > > > > > > > > System passes all directX tests, 3D benchmark of 11765, NAS2002 and > > > > F12002/GTR2002 both run great, as they should. > > > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas/help ? > > > > > > > > Thanks, Goober > > > > > > Have you made sure you are using the d3d or opengl video? Even

tho > > you > > > hae the patches installed, you still have to choose between the two 3d > > > drivers or the software mode. 2nd. Have you examined the core.inifile > > > and set your 3d section up to match your type of video card.(if there > are > > > no settings for the GF4, check the readme file.) Racesim central hasan > > > updated Opengl driver that works very well with GF cards. Search forit

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> > in > > > the GPL forum. > > > > > > > > > > Yes I have selected the D3D or OpenGL in the sim, rebooted and then > selected > > the resolution. I have downloaded the Racesim Central OpenGL driver and > > tried it. No luck with either. GPL runs like it is in a tub of molasses; > it > > is slow and jerky. > > I have not examined the core.ini yet. Grew weary last night and need to > get > > some work don today. I will check it out this afternoon. > > > > My controller is a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GB if that would have > > anything to do with it. > > > > Thanks > > > > > >

Yep, the v1.2 patch, the CPU speed patch (takes to v1.2.0.2 I believe) the D3D patch and the OpenGL patch (both papy and racesim central). Have the same problem with 30.82 drivers. Disabled fast writes in the BIOS and set the AGP speed to normal. Tried editing the Core.Ini file to bi-linear and no mipmapping (setting 2) set the mirrors to draw only 1/2 each redraw. How do you check framerates in GPL ? I don't think it is a framerate problem though, since no altering of things that effect framerates seem to have a impact. Same problem at 640x480 and 1024x768. Tried with anti-aliasing on and off. Same problem. Same for antistropic filtering. Really a bummer as I was hoping to use GPL for our offline race nights. Run NAS2002 now. Any other sims that have good multiplayer with AI cars ? I would love to use GTR2002 but we all know what the multiplayer is like in F1 2002; LOL Thanks

FWIW, you can get GPL Framerate by hitting ALT-F when in-car. Maximum Framerate for GPL is 36. Sorry, can't help with the other problems..... Goober Gilbert wrote:

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> "Jan-Erik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:AQXW9.7133$[email hidden]... > > Have you installed the cpu speed patch? > > > > "Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet > > news:3e2c1c8a$0$162$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3e2b9ca4$0$55892$4 > > > > > > > > > > System passes all directX tests, 3D benchmark of 11765, NAS2002 and > > > > > F12002/GTR2002 both run great, as they should. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas/help ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Goober > > > > > > > > Have you made sure you are using the d3d or opengl video? Even > tho > > > you > > > > hae the patches installed, you still have to choose between the two 3d > > > > drivers or the software mode. 2nd. Have you examined the core.ini > file > > > > and set your 3d section up to match your type of video card.(if there > > are > > > > no settings for the GF4, check the readme file.) Racesim central has > an > > > > updated Opengl driver that works very well with GF cards. Search for > it > > > in > > > > the GPL forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I have selected the D3D or OpenGL in the sim, rebooted and then > > selected > > > the resolution. I have downloaded the Racesim Central OpenGL driver and > > > tried it. No luck with either. GPL runs like it is in a tub of molasses; > > it > > > is slow and jerky. > > > I have not examined the core.ini yet. Grew weary last night and need to > > get > > > some work don today. I will check it out this afternoon. > > > > > > My controller is a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GB if that would have > > > anything to do with it. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, the v1.2 patch, the CPU speed patch (takes to v1.2.0.2 I believe) the > D3D patch and the OpenGL patch (both papy and racesim central). Have the > same problem with 30.82 drivers. > > Disabled fast writes in the BIOS and set the AGP speed to normal. Tried > editing the Core.Ini file to bi-linear and no mipmapping (setting 2) set the > mirrors to draw only 1/2 each redraw. How do you check framerates in GPL ? I > don't think it is a framerate problem though, since no altering of things > that effect framerates seem to have a impact. Same problem at 640x480 and > 1024x768. Tried with anti-aliasing on and off. Same problem. Same for > antistropic filtering. > > Really a bummer as I was hoping to use GPL for our offline race nights. Run > NAS2002 now. Any other sims that have good multiplayer with AI cars ? I > would love to use GTR2002 but we all know what the multiplayer is like in F1 > 2002; LOL > > Thanks

"Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3e2c629c$0$204$[email hidden]... > Yep, the v1.2 patch, the CPU speed patch (takes to v1.2.0.2 I believe) the > D3D patch and the OpenGL patch (both papy and racesim central). Have the > same problem with 30.82 drivers. > > Disabled fast writes in the BIOS and set the AGP speed to normal. Tried > editing the Core.Ini file to bi-linear and no mipmapping (setting 2) setthe > mirrors to draw only 1/2 each redraw. How do you check framerates in GPL ?I > don't think it is a framerate problem though, since no altering of things > that effect framerates seem to have a impact. Same problem at 640x480 and > 1024x768. Tried with anti-aliasing on and off. Same problem. Same for > antistropic filtering. > > Really a bummer as I was hoping to use GPL for our offline race nights.Run > NAS2002 now. Any other sims that have good multiplayer with AI cars ? I > would love to use GTR2002 but we all know what the multiplayer is like inF1 > 2002; LOL Alt-F for framerate. It's capped at 36fps. Just a thought, but is gpl installed on an NTFS partition by any chance? Malc.

Thanks "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > FWIW, you can get GPL Framerate by hitting ALT-F when in-car. MaximumFramerate

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> for GPL is 36. > > Sorry, can't help with the other problems..... > > > > Goober Gilbert wrote: > > > "Jan-Erik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:AQXW9.7133$[email hidden]... > > > Have you installed the cpu speed patch? > > > > > > "Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet > > > news:3e2c1c8a$0$162$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > "Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in

news:3e2b9ca4$0$55892$4 > > > > > > > > > > > > System passes all directX tests, 3D benchmark of 11765, NAS2002and

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> > > > > > F12002/GTR2002 both run great, as they should. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas/help ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Goober > > > > > > > > > > Have you made sure you are using the d3d or opengl video?

Even > > tho > > > > you > > > > > hae the patches installed, you still have to choose between thetwo 3d > > > > > drivers or the software mode. 2nd. Have you examined thecore.ini > > file > > > > > and set your 3d section up to match your type of video card.(ifthere > > > are > > > > > no settings for the GF4, check the readme file.) Racesim centralhas > > an > > > > > updated Opengl driver that works very well with GF cards. Searchfor

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> > it > > > > in > > > > > the GPL forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I have selected the D3D or OpenGL in the sim, rebooted and then > > > selected > > > > the resolution. I have downloaded the Racesim Central OpenGL driver

and > > > > tried it. No luck with either. GPL runs like it is in a tub ofmolasses; > > > it > > > > is slow and jerky. > > > > I have not examined the core.ini yet. Grew weary last night and needto > > > get > > > > some work don today. I will check it out this afternoon. > > > > > > > > My controller is a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GB if that wouldhave

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> > > > anything to do with it. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, the v1.2 patch, the CPU speed patch (takes to v1.2.0.2 I believe)

the > > D3D patch and the OpenGL patch (both papy and racesim central). Have the > > same problem with 30.82 drivers. > > > > Disabled fast writes in the BIOS and set the AGP speed to normal. Tried > > editing the Core.Ini file to bi-linear and no mipmapping (setting 2) setthe > > mirrors to draw only 1/2 each redraw. How do you check framerates in GPL? I > > don't think it is a framerate problem though, since no altering ofthings > > that effect framerates seem to have a impact. Same problem at 640x480and > > 1024x768. Tried with anti-aliasing on and off. Same problem. Same for > > antistropic filtering. > > > > Really a bummer as I was hoping to use GPL for our offline race nights.Run > > NAS2002 now. Any other sims that have good multiplayer with AI cars ? I > > would love to use GTR2002 but we all know what the multiplayer is likein F1 > > 2002; LOL > > > > Thanks >

Thanks > FWIW, you can get GPL Framerate by hitting ALT-F when in-car. Maximum Framerate

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> for GPL is 36. > Sorry, can't help with the other problems..... > > > Have you installed the cpu speed patch?

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sKZW9.14695$4k6.1378455@wards... > "Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3e2c629c$0$204$[email hidden]... > > > Yep, the v1.2 patch, the CPU speed patch (takes to v1.2.0.2 I believe)the

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> > D3D patch and the OpenGL patch (both papy and racesim central). Have the > > same problem with 30.82 drivers. > > > > Disabled fast writes in the BIOS and set the AGP speed to normal. Tried > > editing the Core.Ini file to bi-linear and no mipmapping (setting 2) set > the > > mirrors to draw only 1/2 each redraw. How do you check framerates in GPL

? > I > > don't think it is a framerate problem though, since no altering ofthings > > that effect framerates seem to have a impact. Same problem at 640x480and

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> > 1024x768. Tried with anti-aliasing on and off. Same problem. Same for > > antistropic filtering. > > > > Really a bummer as I was hoping to use GPL for our offline race nights. > Run > > NAS2002 now. Any other sims that have good multiplayer with AI cars ? I > > would love to use GTR2002 but we all know what the multiplayer is like

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> F1 > > 2002; LOL > > Alt-F for framerate. It's capped at 36fps. > > Just a thought, but is gpl installed on an NTFS partition by any chance? > > Malc. > >

Yes it is on a NTFS partition, BUT I am pretty sure indexing is enabled. I will re-check that. It is also installed on a RAID0 array. Possible that it does not like the RAID Array ? When I start GPL up there is HD activity. Then after exiting GPL and restarting it, after say changing the 3D acccelerator, there is no HD activity and it runs the same. Menus are slow driving is slow and jerky. I did try setting the sound acceleration down, but to no advantage. The sound card is a Hercules GameTheaterXP. Thanks Much

"Goober Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3e2c93e6$0$24678$[email hidden]...

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> "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:sKZW9.14695$4k6.1378455@wards... > > Just a thought, but is gpl installed on an NTFS partition by any chance? > > Yes it is on a NTFS partition, BUT I am pretty sure indexing is enabled. I > will re-check that. It is also installed on a RAID0 array. Possible that

it > does not like the RAID Array ? When I start GPL up there is HD activity. > Then after exiting GPL and restarting it, after say changing the 3D > acccelerator, there is no HD activity and it runs the same. Menus are slow > driving is slow and jerky. > I did try setting the sound acceleration down, but to no advantage. The > sound card is a Hercules GameTheaterXP. I have a win2k machine with gpl installed on an NTFS partition. It just came straight back to desktop without indexing, so I guess that probably isn't it. Raid might affect it, although I can't really think why, but you could say the same about the indexing ;-) Malc.