HDTV gaming

I'm planning on buying a 1080p HDTV set and i was wondering if games like GTR2 and rFactor support 1920 x 1080 resolutions. Also, i'm hesitating between DLP and flat panel LCD. Which technology would be better suited for gaming?

"Bob Loblaw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JmCah.38877$[email hidden]... > I'm planning on buying a 1080p HDTV set and i was wondering if games like > GTR2 and rFactor support 1920 x 1080 resolutions. Also, i'm hesitating > between DLP and flat panel LCD. Which technology would be better suited > for gaming? > I use a HD-TV LCD 37" screen, it has a VGA & DVI input.. I play using 1280x768 as this is correct for the screen size... and man does it look good!

I don't know the difference between DLP and LCD for gaming, but I have a DLP (Samsung HLP-5085, aka the "Captn' Kirk" model) and it's been great for 2 years now. -Larry "Bob Loblaw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JmCah.38877$[email hidden]... > I'm planning on buying a 1080p HDTV set and i was wondering if games like > GTR2 and rFactor support 1920 x 1080 resolutions. Also, i'm hesitating > between DLP and flat panel LCD. Which technology would be better suited > for gaming? >

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:31:52 -0500, Larry wrote:

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> I don't know the difference between DLP and LCD for gaming, but I have a DLP > (Samsung HLP-5085, aka the "Captn' Kirk" model) and it's been great for 2 > years now. > > -Larry > > "Bob Loblaw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JmCah.38877$[email hidden]... >> [5 quoted lines suppressed]

dlp is better fer gaming cause u wont get any burn in.

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> I don't know the difference between DLP and LCD for ***, but I have a DLP > (Samsung HLP-5085, aka the "Captn' Kirk" model) and it's been great for 2 > years now. > -Larry >> [5 quoted lines suppressed]

dlp is better fer *** cause u wont get any burn in.

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:09:59 -0800, L.K. Duh wrote: > dlp is better fer gaming cause u > wont get any burn in. DLP has better contrast ratio too but how is it for resposne time? I've noticed DLP screen isn't as bright as LCD though.

I don't think there is such a thing as response time on a DLP. It's in the mirrors :) Most DLP's are 1280X720 resolution. These are the 1080i units. I think the new 1080p units are 1920X1024. That may also weigh in on your decision. You'll need a pretty hefty graphics card to drive 1920X1024 pixels. Brightness is of ZERO concern with DLP. At least with mine it isn't. It's just fine in the middle of the day. This is one of those things you really need to do some legwork at the local stores and see what you like. There is an issue with about 1% of the population. Their brains are wired a bit differently and they see 'rainbows' on DLP screens. I don't have the problem. Never met anyone that did. But, it does exist so you need to check it out. You can't fix your Brain after the purchase :) From what I understand, you either have it or you don't. No need to look at a bunch of DLP's to see if it is an issue for you. If you have it on one, you'll have it on all of them and vice versa. I think it has something to do with the rotational frequency of the color wheel's. -Larry "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:15m04mpf5hq5r$[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 14:09:59 -0800, L.K. Duh wrote: > > >> dlp is better fer gaming cause u >> wont get any burn in. > > DLP has better contrast ratio too but how is it for resposne time? I've > noticed DLP screen isn't as bright as LCD though.

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:55:12 -0500, Larry wrote: > I don't think there is such a thing as response time on a DLP. You sure? The picture source on DLP is LCD.

> You sure? The picture source on DLP is LCD.??? The picture source? On DLP the picture is created from light reflected off mirrors, there is no LCD inside DLP. http://www.dlp.com/ "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1c54c13b9mo3m.coxvc7ybpsy3$[email hidden]... > On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:55:12 -0500, Larry wrote: > >> I don't think there is such a thing as response time on a DLP. > > You sure? The picture source on DLP is LCD.

I don't agree with a lot in the comparisions, and find it technically weak. But it's a good start. I spent the better part of 4 months looking at every technology in person, in various stores, before I purchased. I went with DLP because: 1. There is no issue with burn-in. 2. The picture is simply gorgeous. 3. There is no backlight to worry about. Yes, the lamp has to be replaced every 5000 to 8000 hours, but it is a REPLACEABLE part. Try getting an LCD backlight replaced. In my work, I have to have several hundred Laptops repaired a year due to bad backlights (they are a relatively high-failure item). Every one has required LCD replacement at a very high cost. 4. I liked the built-in stand design of the Samsung HLP-5085. Most HDTV's have to do image conversion. However, the writer of the article seemed to only point to DLP as needing this. That is incorrect. Don't get me wrong. I like LCD's. I have FIVE of them around me in my office as I type this, including a 19" widescreen sony up on the wall playing "House". After much research and personal visits to see them, I just prefer DLP for my living room. -Larry "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1rna1lq4dzudk$.xv1ao5zhkt31$[email hidden]... > http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html

You are incorrect sir. DLP has NO LCD. You are thinking of the Sony rear-projections. -Larry "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1c54c13b9mo3m.coxvc7ybpsy3$[email hidden]... > On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:55:12 -0500, Larry wrote: > >> I don't think there is such a thing as response time on a DLP. > > You sure? The picture source on DLP is LCD.

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:03:47 -0500, Larry wrote: > Don't get me wrong. I like LCD's. I have FIVE of them around me in my > office as I type this, including a 19" widescreen sony up on the wall > playing "House". I bought a Viewsonic HDTV LCD and I hated it, it got edge burn in where I had been watching SD TV at 4:3 ratio so took it back for a refund. May get a DLP now and see how that goes. I used to have a Samsung LCD for my computer too but traded that to someone for a 21" IBM P275 CRT and much prefer that for gaming on.

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:04:32 -0500, Larry wrote: > You are incorrect sir. DLP has NO LCD. You are thinking of the Sony > rear-projections. > > -Larry OK, I was confused by the this review of the Sony as it says it uses LCD and the site lists it under DLP TV's. I remember reading once about some issue using the mirrors cause but can't remember exactly what it was. Something to do with the color reproduction or something like that - color wheel maybe? http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/sony-kdfe42a10.html

Probably referring to Rainbow Effect. Some people see rainbows in the image with DLP. "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:efw4h4uikvum.1raw057by38dz$[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:04:32 -0500, Larry wrote: > >> You are incorrect sir. DLP has NO LCD. You are thinking of the Sony >> rear-projections. >> >> -Larry > > OK, I was confused by the this review of the Sony as it says it uses LCD > and the site lists it under DLP TV's. I remember reading once about some > issue using the mirrors cause but can't remember exactly what it was. > Something to do with the color reproduction or something like that - color > wheel maybe? > > http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/sony-kdfe42a10.html

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:11:50 GMT, schooner wrote: > Probably referring to Rainbow Effect. Some people see rainbows in the image > with DLP. >Yea, that's it. How much of an issue is this? I have fairly critical eyes.

Some people are effected by it, others are not. Has nothing to do with having a critical eye, its just some thing that only certain people see. "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:onpnal9o9dgr.lwdhdnobrniy$[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:11:50 GMT, schooner wrote: > >> Probably referring to Rainbow Effect. Some people see rainbows in the >> image >> with DLP. >> > Yea, that's it. How much of an issue is this? I have fairly critical eyes.

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:49:09 GMT, schooner wrote: > Some people are effected by it, others are not. Has nothing to do with > having a critical eye, its just some thing that only certain people see. OK, thanks, I'll have to go view some and see if I notice it. This website says the issue is more of a problem with older DLP sets. http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/specsformats/displays_DLP_technology2.html What is the Rainbow Effect? The DLP 'rainbow effect' is an artifact unique to single-chip DLP projectors. The artifact appears as a rainbow or multi-color shimmer briefly noticeable when changing focus from one part of the projector screen to another. It appears as a secondary image that appears at the viewer's peripheral vision and is generally noticeable when shifting focus from a high contrast area or bright object. For a quick video sample of the effect, click here (warning: 5MB video). 3-chip DLP projectors, higher wheel speeds, 7-segment color wheels, and archimedes color wheel designs (pending) are minimizing or may altogether elminate the effect.

No problems with color wheel here, and none that I have generally read about. -Larry "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:efw4h4uikvum.1raw057by38dz$[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 02:04:32 -0500, Larry wrote: > >> You are incorrect sir. DLP has NO LCD. You are thinking of the Sony >> rear-projections. >> >> -Larry > > OK, I was confused by the this review of the Sony as it says it uses LCD > and the site lists it under DLP TV's. I remember reading once about some > issue using the mirrors cause but can't remember exactly what it was. > Something to do with the color reproduction or something like that - color > wheel maybe? > > http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/sony-kdfe42a10.html

It has nothing to do with eyes. It has to do with brain wiring from what I understand. All you have to do is look at a DLP. You either have it, or you don't. You don't 'catch' it. You are born with it. -Larry "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:onpnal9o9dgr.lwdhdnobrniy$[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:11:50 GMT, schooner wrote: > >> Probably referring to Rainbow Effect. Some people see rainbows in the >> image >> with DLP. >> > Yea, that's it. How much of an issue is this? I have fairly critical eyes.

The site brings up another important point, and that's the DLP Chipset used in the TV. And you can't go just by the number, thinking higher is better. This is not necessarily the case. When I bought my HLP-5085, the mainstay for a long time was the HD2. Then TV's came out with the HD3 chipset, which was not in fact technologically more advanced, but packaged cheaper so manufacturers could sell TV's cheaper. The HD3 was, in fact, inferior to the HD2 in most cases. The high-end at the time, which is what my TV has, was the HD2+. I think it is still the high-end except for the new 1080P sets. I'm not sure what the chipset number is for them. The HD2+ also uses the 7 segment color wheel, improving contrast. -Larry "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:49:09 GMT, schooner wrote: > >> Some people are effected by it, others are not. Has nothing to do with >> having a critical eye, its just some thing that only certain people see. > > OK, thanks, I'll have to go view some and see if I notice it. This website > says the issue is more of a problem with older DLP sets. > > http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/specsformats/displays_DLP_technology2.html > > What is the Rainbow Effect? The DLP 'rainbow effect' is an artifact unique > to single-chip DLP projectors. The artifact appears as a rainbow or > multi-color shimmer briefly noticeable when changing focus from one part > of > the projector screen to another. It appears as a secondary image that > appears at the viewer's peripheral vision and is generally noticeable when > shifting focus from a high contrast area or bright object. For a quick > video sample of the effect, click here (warning: 5MB video). > > 3-chip DLP projectors, higher wheel speeds, 7-segment color wheels, and > archimedes color wheel designs (pending) are minimizing or may altogether > elminate the effect.

In article <jdRbh.1396$[email hidden]>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It has nothing to do with eyes. It has to do with brain wiring from what I >understand. > >All you have to do is look at a DLP. You either have it, or you don't. You >don't 'catch' it. You are born with it. Even if you don't, there's always the Q of whether your SO, or guests may. Guess it's up to one's own judgement. Samsung is also now making an LED-based DLP. It uses 3 LED panels instead of a lamp and color wheel. But the initial reviews haven't been raves (well, at least CNET's). Maybe it just needs maturation?

Burn-in is now pretty much a non factor on most decent Plasma's and hasnt been for more than 2 years. DLP owners will ALWAYS point to burn-in and they are just perpetuating the DLP industry "company line". DLP was a cute interim technology but anyone that has had to spend hundreds replacing guns every couple of years knows the real deal behind DLP. Samsung and Sony recently announced a mfg partnership which should present us with 46" and 52" LCD's at a very low price in the very near future. Right now the only REALISTIC choice is Plasma, PERIOD. (can you say 6hrs a day for 27yrs?). That 50" Plasma Samsung is REALLY interesting for <$1500. Mitch "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mhabh.11230$[email hidden]...

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>I don't agree with a lot in the comparisions, and find it technically weak. >But it's a good start. > > I spent the better part of 4 months looking at every technology in person, > in various stores, before I purchased. I went with DLP because: > > 1. There is no issue with burn-in. > 2. The picture is simply gorgeous. > 3. There is no backlight to worry about. Yes, the lamp has to be > replaced every 5000 to 8000 hours, but it is a REPLACEABLE part. Try > getting an LCD backlight replaced. In my work, I have to have several > hundred Laptops repaired a year due to bad backlights (they are a > relatively high-failure item). Every one has required LCD replacement at > a very high cost. > 4. I liked the built-in stand design of the Samsung HLP-5085. > > Most HDTV's have to do image conversion. However, the writer of the > article seemed to only point to DLP as needing this. That is incorrect. > > Don't get me wrong. I like LCD's. I have FIVE of them around me in my > office as I type this, including a 19" widescreen sony up on the wall > playing "House". > > After much research and personal visits to see them, I just prefer DLP for > my living room. > > -Larry > > "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:1rna1lq4dzudk$.xv1ao5zhkt31$[email hidden]... >> http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html > > >

What Guns are in a DLP unit? "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:se_bh.6633$[email hidden]...

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> Burn-in is now pretty much a non factor on most decent Plasma's and hasnt > been for more than 2 years. DLP owners will ALWAYS point to burn-in and > they are just perpetuating the DLP industry "company line". DLP was a > cute interim technology but anyone that has had to spend hundreds > replacing guns every couple of years knows the real deal behind DLP. > > Samsung and Sony recently announced a mfg partnership which should present > us with 46" and 52" LCD's at a very low price in the very near future. > > Right now the only REALISTIC choice is Plasma, PERIOD. (can you say 6hrs > a day for 27yrs?). That 50" Plasma Samsung is REALLY interesting for > <$1500. > > Mitch > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:mhabh.11230$[email hidden]... >>I don't agree with a lot in the comparisions, and find it technically >>weak. But it's a good start. >> >> I spent the better part of 4 months looking at every technology in >> person, in various stores, before I purchased. I went with DLP because: >> >> 1. There is no issue with burn-in. >> 2. The picture is simply gorgeous. >> 3. There is no backlight to worry about. Yes, the lamp has to be >> replaced every 5000 to 8000 hours, but it is a REPLACEABLE part. Try >> getting an LCD backlight replaced. In my work, I have to have several >> hundred Laptops repaired a year due to bad backlights (they are a >> relatively high-failure item). Every one has required LCD replacement at >> a very high cost. >> 4. I liked the built-in stand design of the Samsung HLP-5085. >> >> Most HDTV's have to do image conversion. However, the writer of the >> article seemed to only point to DLP as needing this. That is incorrect. >> >> Don't get me wrong. I like LCD's. I have FIVE of them around me in my >> office as I type this, including a 19" widescreen sony up on the wall >> playing "House". >> >> After much research and personal visits to see them, I just prefer DLP >> for my living room. >> >> -Larry >> >> "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:1rna1lq4dzudk$.xv1ao5zhkt31$[email hidden]... >>> http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html >> >> >> > >

In article <se_bh.6633$[email hidden]>, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Right now the only REALISTIC choice is Plasma, PERIOD. (can you say 6hrs a >day for 27yrs?). That 50" Plasma Samsung is REALLY interesting for <$1500. Sounds like a smokin deal, but I've never been a fan of Samsung plasmas. They seem to me to be an LCD company (where they are strong) that also makes everything else. But not do those too well. But maybe they're better than they were when I looked at them a couple years back. I'd go with the tried and true Panasonic 50" for $2000 now.

You might still be able to buy CRT HDTV's. They are heavy and huge, but the picture quality can be even better than LCD's for much less money.

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:09:44 GMT, timmy thompson wrote: > You might still be able to buy CRT HDTV's. They are heavy and huge, but > the picture quality can be even better than LCD's for much less money. Yea, you can still buy them but the largest I have seen is only 32".

I've never had a guest have an issue. It's a very rare thing, actually. -Larry "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WzUbh.17568$[email hidden]...

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> In article <jdRbh.1396$[email hidden]>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> > wrote: >>It has nothing to do with eyes. It has to do with brain wiring from what >>I >>understand. >> >>All you have to do is look at a DLP. You either have it, or you don't. >>You >>don't 'catch' it. You are born with it. > > Even if you don't, there's always the Q of whether your SO, or > guests may. Guess it's up to one's own judgement. > > Samsung is also now making an LED-based DLP. It uses 3 LED panels > instead of a lamp and color wheel. But the initial reviews haven't > been raves (well, at least CNET's). Maybe it just needs maturation?

Yeah, I get a big freakin check from Texas Instruments every month. Sheesh, Mitch. You come up with the craziest shit sometimes. And I see burn-in on Plasma's in stores all the time. -Larry "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:se_bh.6633$[email hidden]...

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> Burn-in is now pretty much a non factor on most decent Plasma's and hasnt > been for more than 2 years. DLP owners will ALWAYS point to burn-in and > they are just perpetuating the DLP industry "company line". DLP was a > cute interim technology but anyone that has had to spend hundreds > replacing guns every couple of years knows the real deal behind DLP. > > Samsung and Sony recently announced a mfg partnership which should present > us with 46" and 52" LCD's at a very low price in the very near future. > > Right now the only REALISTIC choice is Plasma, PERIOD. (can you say 6hrs > a day for 27yrs?). That 50" Plasma Samsung is REALLY interesting for > <$1500. > > Mitch > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:mhabh.11230$[email hidden]... >>I don't agree with a lot in the comparisions, and find it technically >>weak. But it's a good start. >> >> I spent the better part of 4 months looking at every technology in >> person, in various stores, before I purchased. I went with DLP because: >> >> 1. There is no issue with burn-in. >> 2. The picture is simply gorgeous. >> 3. There is no backlight to worry about. Yes, the lamp has to be >> replaced every 5000 to 8000 hours, but it is a REPLACEABLE part. Try >> getting an LCD backlight replaced. In my work, I have to have several >> hundred Laptops repaired a year due to bad backlights (they are a >> relatively high-failure item). Every one has required LCD replacement at >> a very high cost. >> 4. I liked the built-in stand design of the Samsung HLP-5085. >> >> Most HDTV's have to do image conversion. However, the writer of the >> article seemed to only point to DLP as needing this. That is incorrect. >> >> Don't get me wrong. I like LCD's. I have FIVE of them around me in my >> office as I type this, including a 19" widescreen sony up on the wall >> playing "House". >> >> After much research and personal visits to see them, I just prefer DLP >> for my living room. >> >> -Larry >> >> "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:1rna1lq4dzudk$.xv1ao5zhkt31$[email hidden]... >>> http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html >> >> >> > >

Oh, and there are NO guns in DLP's. It's light reflected off a mirror through a color wheel. Only the old CRT based rear-projections use 'guns'. -Larry "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:se_bh.6633$[email hidden]...

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> Burn-in is now pretty much a non factor on most decent Plasma's and hasnt > been for more than 2 years. DLP owners will ALWAYS point to burn-in and > they are just perpetuating the DLP industry "company line". DLP was a > cute interim technology but anyone that has had to spend hundreds > replacing guns every couple of years knows the real deal behind DLP. > > Samsung and Sony recently announced a mfg partnership which should present > us with 46" and 52" LCD's at a very low price in the very near future. > > Right now the only REALISTIC choice is Plasma, PERIOD. (can you say 6hrs > a day for 27yrs?). That 50" Plasma Samsung is REALLY interesting for > <$1500. > > Mitch > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:mhabh.11230$[email hidden]... >>I don't agree with a lot in the comparisions, and find it technically >>weak. But it's a good start. >> >> I spent the better part of 4 months looking at every technology in >> person, in various stores, before I purchased. I went with DLP because: >> >> 1. There is no issue with burn-in. >> 2. The picture is simply gorgeous. >> 3. There is no backlight to worry about. Yes, the lamp has to be >> replaced every 5000 to 8000 hours, but it is a REPLACEABLE part. Try >> getting an LCD backlight replaced. In my work, I have to have several >> hundred Laptops repaired a year due to bad backlights (they are a >> relatively high-failure item). Every one has required LCD replacement at >> a very high cost. >> 4. I liked the built-in stand design of the Samsung HLP-5085. >> >> Most HDTV's have to do image conversion. However, the writer of the >> article seemed to only point to DLP as needing this. That is incorrect. >> >> Don't get me wrong. I like LCD's. I have FIVE of them around me in my >> office as I type this, including a 19" widescreen sony up on the wall >> playing "House". >> >> After much research and personal visits to see them, I just prefer DLP >> for my living room. >> >> -Larry >> >> "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:1rna1lq4dzudk$.xv1ao5zhkt31$[email hidden]... >>> http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html >> >> >> > >

The Sony 40", if it's even still sold, is 350 pounds. Bring a crane :) -Larry "timmy thompson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YC2ch.4997$%[email hidden]... > You might still be able to buy CRT HDTV's. They are heavy and huge, but > the picture quality can be even better than LCD's for much less money.

In article <9jxpt9dgpnbz.1r9fxjtdat93i$[email hidden]>, RAID!!! <[email hidden]> wrote: >On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:09:44 GMT, timmy thompson wrote: > >> You might still be able to buy CRT HDTV's. They are heavy and huge, but >> the picture quality can be even better than LCD's for much less money. > >Yea, you can still buy them but the largest I have seen is only 32". 34" Sony XBR970. Which, alas, is really an XBR in name only. It doesn't have the super fine pitch screen of the previous 34" XBR and XS960 (XS955?) models. Still a hefty 200lbs+. But how often do you move 'em?

"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:se_bh.6633$[email hidden]...

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> Burn-in is now pretty much a non factor on most decent Plasma's and hasnt > been for more than 2 years. DLP owners will ALWAYS point to burn-in and > they are just perpetuating the DLP industry "company line". DLP was a > cute interim technology but anyone that has had to spend hundreds > replacing guns every couple of years knows the real deal behind DLP. > > Samsung and Sony recently announced a mfg partnership which should present > us with 46" and 52" LCD's at a very low price in the very near future. > > Right now the only REALISTIC choice is Plasma, PERIOD. (can you say 6hrs > a day for 27yrs?). That 50" Plasma Samsung is REALLY interesting for > <$1500. > > Mitch > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

50" 1080p plasmas are simply too expensive. DLP's inches/dollar ratio is unbeatable. I can get a 50 inches 1080p DLP for the same price as a 40" 1080p LCD. Most LCDs have a 8 ms response time while SHARP makes a unit that is faster. DLP have response times in the micro second range but they lag if you feed them non native resolutions and they have to convert them.

The TV I had prior to my 50" DLP was a Sony KV32XBR50 (a true XBR). It was very expensive when I bought it in 1991 ($2000 with stand). And yeah, the bastaad was HEAVY! Worst part is, 80% of the weight is in the front 2" of the TV (due to the CRT Glass) which made it really hard to work with. Once it got on the stand, it never left. Not in 15 years, until it's new owner came and got it a year or so ago. Carpet installers hated that TV LOL! I had ONE problem with the TV, when it was about 3 years old. It had a cold solder joint on the video board, and since I had the extended warranty Circuit City came out and fixed it on-site in 30 minutes. That was really an amazing TV. My TV is on some 6-8 hrs a day, and even after 15 years it never showed any signs of the tube getting weaker or out of alignment. I gave it to a co-worker a year or so ago, and he still uses it every day. I was going to keep it, but it was just too damned big to use as a bedroom TV. Sony used to make the best TV's on the market, bar none. I don't know if it's like that any more. -Larry "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XJech.34977$[email hidden]... > 34" Sony XBR970. Which, alas, is really an XBR in name only. It > doesn't have the super fine pitch screen of the previous 34" XBR and > XS960 (XS955?) models. Still a hefty 200lbs+. But how often do you > move 'em?

I feed my 50" DLP a 1080i signal from my Cable Box (and scales it to 720p), and I don't see any lag. There are possibly two reasons for that: 1. Mine is a high-end unit, and has the high-end HD2+ chipset. 2. It also has the Farouja (sp?) scaler. I have heard the cheap HD3 chipset/non-Farouja TV's could have an issue with this, but personally I've never seen it. Frankly, I've fed my TV both 720p and 1080i signals, and I can't tell a whole lot of difference. I just leave the cable box at 1080i so I don't have to reset it every time the damn thing crashes. 1080i is the default. There are few things I own that I despise more than the SA8300 HD Cable Box/DVR my cable company provides, but until they have Tivo units sometime next year, it's all there is. -Larry "Bob Loblaw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:K6nch.68423$[email hidden]... > 50" 1080p plasmas are simply too expensive. DLP's inches/dollar ratio is > unbeatable. I can get a 50 inches 1080p DLP for the same price as a 40" > 1080p LCD. Most LCDs have a 8 ms response time while SHARP makes a unit > that is faster. DLP have response times in the micro second range but they > lag if you feed them non native resolutions and they have to convert them. >

In article <uQHch.18$[email hidden]>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Sony used to make the best TV's on the market, bar none. I don't know if >it's like that any more. They still have the rep for the best CRT's. Then again, there is little competition these days, from themselves included. CRT's are a dying breed. As to longevity, don't know. But I did have a Toshiba that wouldn't die (14 when I decided it was time to upgrade). And ditto for a Panasonic (10 when I upgraded, now about 3 years into service at the folks). I'm afraid we've become much more of a throw-away society. My LCD rear-pro is less than 3 years old, cost 2.5x as much as the above two TV's combined, and already thinking about a new one.

[email hidden] (Dave) wrote: > I'm afraid we've become much more of a throw-away society. Agreed. I would actually love to replace my 28" CRT TV with something sleeker and more mobile. But it's a good screen, is only 4 years old, and I absolutely *hate* disposing of working kit. If it'd die that'd be a different matter. :-) But it shows no doing so and has very little resale value in these flat screen times. I shall try to stick to my principles... and avoid looking at January sale prices. Andrew McP

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> Agreed. I would actually love to replace my 28" CRT TV with something > sleeker and more mobile. But it's a good screen, is only 4 years old, > and I absolutely *hate* disposing of working kit. If it'd die that'd be a > different matter. :-) But it shows no doing so and has very little > resale value in these flat screen times. > > I shall try to stick to my principles... and avoid looking at January > sale prices. > > Andrew McP

HDTV's are only good for HD content and DVD movies, watching standard TV signal on them is shite compared to the CRT you have now. Most people with HDTV watch SD TV stretched from 4:3 to 16:9 apsect ratio which is absolute crap looking. What do people mostly use HDTV for? To watch 4:3 TV stretched. Bleh!

Actually, my Samsung does SD quite well, and I don't stretch it (I hate stretched SD). I've heard the Sony's do a good job as well. Now, my entire cable system is digital, with no analog signals any more, so that may make a difference. -Larry "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:w6bkxsqne2xd.1cwyiwqukmvtm$[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 04:18 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Andrew MacPherson > wrote: > HDTV's are only good for HD content and DVD movies, watching standard TV > signal on them is shite compared to the CRT you have now. Most people with > HDTV watch SD TV stretched from 4:3 to 16:9 apsect ratio which is absolute > crap looking. What do people mostly use HDTV for? To watch 4:3 TV > stretched. Bleh!

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> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 04:18 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), Andrew MacPherson > wrote: > > >> Agreed. I would actually love to replace my 28" CRT TV with something >> sleeker and more mobile. But it's a good screen, is only 4 years old, >> and I absolutely *hate* disposing of working kit. If it'd die that'd be a >> different matter. :-) But it shows no doing so and has very little >> resale value in these flat screen times. >> >> I shall try to stick to my principles... and avoid looking at January >> sale prices. >> >> Andrew McP > > HDTV's are only good for HD content and DVD movies, watching standard TV > signal on them is shite compared to the CRT you have now. Most people with > HDTV watch SD TV stretched from 4:3 to 16:9 apsect ratio which is absolute > crap looking. What do people mostly use HDTV for? To watch 4:3 TV > stretched. Bleh!

Thats why I like my Panasonic CRT HDTV. SD looks pretty good. Also from what I read Panasonic makes the best panoramic stretch mode (stretches the sides more than the center), but now I just watch 4:3 in 4:3 and HD in full glory. Plus the SD does not show tons of artifacts like many TV's show nowadays.

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 14:29:58 -0500, Larry wrote: > Actually, my Samsung does SD quite well, and I don't stretch it (I hate > stretched SD). The Viewsonic LCD HDTV I had got a nasty burn in down the sides of where the SD TV 4:3 image had been - took the POS back for a refund. Yes, LCD's can get image burn in. I know two people with plasma HDTV and they both watch SD TV at 16:9 because they are worried about getting the same issue I had.

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> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 14:29:58 -0500, Larry wrote: > >> Actually, my Samsung does SD quite well, and I don't stretch it (I hate >> stretched SD). > > The Viewsonic LCD HDTV I had got a nasty burn in down the sides of where > the SD TV 4:3 image had been - took the POS back for a refund. Yes, LCD's > can get image burn in. I know two people with plasma HDTV and they both > watch SD TV at 16:9 because they are worried about getting the same issue I > had.

How long did it take? Was the contrast or picture at max?

On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:33:11 GMT, timmy thompson wrote: > How long did it take? Was the contrast or picture at max? It took about six months until I noticed it. Contrast was low and brightness was on the high side. That's another thing I didn't like about that HDTV, it was very contrasty, didn't notice it in the store due to the bright lights they used.

I bought a DLP 480p projector (yes I know it's not High Def), but it was only $600 and the 92" screen was thrown in for free! Even in standard def, the picture is great. Recommend you get a projector if you have the space, but 1080i resolution might be expensive. A lot more bang for the buck.

The Optoma HD70 is a good projector deal, 720p and under $1000US. "Gil" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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>I bought a DLP 480p projector (yes I know it's not High Def), but it > was only $600 and the 92" screen was thrown in for free! > > Even in standard def, the picture is great. Recommend you get a > projector if you have the space, but 1080i resolution might be > expensive. > > A lot more bang for the buck. >

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> I bought a DLP 480p projector (yes I know it's not High Def), but it > was only $600 and the 92" screen was thrown in for free! > > Even in standard def, the picture is great. Recommend you get a > projector if you have the space, but 1080i resolution might be > expensive. > > A lot more bang for the buck.

How are those projectors in daylight viewing? Don't they require a darkened room?

Yes they required a light controlled room. "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On 6 Dec 2006 16:06:44 -0800, Gil wrote: > >> I bought a DLP 480p projector (yes I know it's not High Def), but it >> was only $600 and the 92" screen was thrown in for free! >> >> Even in standard def, the picture is great. Recommend you get a >> projector if you have the space, but 1080i resolution might be >> expensive. >> >> A lot more bang for the buck. > > How are those projectors in daylight viewing? Don't they require a > darkened > room?

One of the big things I noticed when I purchased my set about a year ago was that the Plasma has a glass type screen and there was quite a bit of glare. I ended up with a Panasonic LCD 50" and it has been excellent so far. The bulb is replaceable and although I took an extended warranty to cover the bulb it still burns brightly. The best thing to do is go to circuit city, best buy ect and just look at them until you find the one that stands out. "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:se_bh.6633$[email hidden]...

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> Burn-in is now pretty much a non factor on most decent Plasma's and hasnt > been for more than 2 years. DLP owners will ALWAYS point to burn-in and > they are just perpetuating the DLP industry "company line". DLP was a > cute interim technology but anyone that has had to spend hundreds > replacing guns every couple of years knows the real deal behind DLP. > > Samsung and Sony recently announced a mfg partnership which should present > us with 46" and 52" LCD's at a very low price in the very near future. > > Right now the only REALISTIC choice is Plasma, PERIOD. (can you say 6hrs > a day for 27yrs?). That 50" Plasma Samsung is REALLY interesting for > <$1500. > > Mitch > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:mhabh.11230$[email hidden]... >>I don't agree with a lot in the comparisions, and find it technically >>weak. But it's a good start. >> >> I spent the better part of 4 months looking at every technology in >> person, in various stores, before I purchased. I went with DLP because: >> >> 1. There is no issue with burn-in. >> 2. The picture is simply gorgeous. >> 3. There is no backlight to worry about. Yes, the lamp has to be >> replaced every 5000 to 8000 hours, but it is a REPLACEABLE part. Try >> getting an LCD backlight replaced. In my work, I have to have several >> hundred Laptops repaired a year due to bad backlights (they are a >> relatively high-failure item). Every one has required LCD replacement at >> a very high cost. >> 4. I liked the built-in stand design of the Samsung HLP-5085. >> >> Most HDTV's have to do image conversion. However, the writer of the >> article seemed to only point to DLP as needing this. That is incorrect. >> >> Don't get me wrong. I like LCD's. I have FIVE of them around me in my >> office as I type this, including a 19" widescreen sony up on the wall >> playing "House". >> >> After much research and personal visits to see them, I just prefer DLP >> for my living room. >> >> -Larry >> >> "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:1rna1lq4dzudk$.xv1ao5zhkt31$[email hidden]... >>> http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html >> >> >> > >

Projector wouldn't work well in a bright or sunlit room. We use ours in our basement family room and it is fine. At night, we can have a light on in the room and the image is still bright. Gil

Projectors are excellent! It was the 450.00 bulb that turned me away. "Gil" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Projector wouldn't work well in a bright or sunlit room. We use ours in > our basement family room and it is fine. At night, we can have a light > on in the room and the image is still bright. > > Gil >

That's one of the LCOS rear-projections, right? Just wanted to clarify. It's a different technology than what people typically think of when they hear "LCD". It's not actually an LCD screen. I hear they are pretty good. -Larry "Lancelot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> One of the big things I noticed when I purchased my set about a year ago > was that the Plasma has a glass type screen and there was quite a bit of > glare. I ended up with a Panasonic LCD 50" and it has been excellent so > far. The bulb is replaceable and although I took an extended warranty to > cover the bulb it still burns brightly. The best thing to do is go to > circuit city, best buy ect and just look at them until you find the one > that stands out. > > > > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:se_bh.6633$[email hidden]... >> Burn-in is now pretty much a non factor on most decent Plasma's and hasnt >> been for more than 2 years. DLP owners will ALWAYS point to burn-in and >> they are just perpetuating the DLP industry "company line". DLP was a >> cute interim technology but anyone that has had to spend hundreds >> replacing guns every couple of years knows the real deal behind DLP. >> >> Samsung and Sony recently announced a mfg partnership which should >> present us with 46" and 52" LCD's at a very low price in the very near >> future. >> >> Right now the only REALISTIC choice is Plasma, PERIOD. (can you say >> 6hrs a day for 27yrs?). That 50" Plasma Samsung is REALLY interesting >> for <$1500. >> >> Mitch >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:mhabh.11230$[email hidden]... >>>I don't agree with a lot in the comparisions, and find it technically >>>weak. But it's a good start. >>> >>> I spent the better part of 4 months looking at every technology in >>> person, in various stores, before I purchased. I went with DLP because: >>> >>> 1. There is no issue with burn-in. >>> 2. The picture is simply gorgeous. >>> 3. There is no backlight to worry about. Yes, the lamp has to be >>> replaced every 5000 to 8000 hours, but it is a REPLACEABLE part. Try >>> getting an LCD backlight replaced. In my work, I have to have several >>> hundred Laptops repaired a year due to bad backlights (they are a >>> relatively high-failure item). Every one has required LCD replacement >>> at a very high cost. >>> 4. I liked the built-in stand design of the Samsung HLP-5085. >>> >>> Most HDTV's have to do image conversion. However, the writer of the >>> article seemed to only point to DLP as needing this. That is incorrect. >>> >>> Don't get me wrong. I like LCD's. I have FIVE of them around me in my >>> office as I type this, including a 19" widescreen sony up on the wall >>> playing "House". >>> >>> After much research and personal visits to see them, I just prefer DLP >>> for my living room. >>> >>> -Larry >>> >>> "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:1rna1lq4dzudk$.xv1ao5zhkt31$[email hidden]... >>>> http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

In article <oldfh.235$[email hidden]>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >That's one of the LCOS rear-projections, right? > >Just wanted to clarify. It's a different technology than what people >typically think of when they hear "LCD". It's not actually an LCD screen. > >I hear they are pretty good. Referring to the Panasonic? Panasonic doesn't make LCOS (Liquid Crystal On Silicon). They make DLP, LCD and Plasma. LCOS makers include Sony, JVC (and Syntax-Brilian?). It is reflective vs LCD's transmissive. One of the resulting benefits is potential for darker darks. Sony's SXRD (their trade term for LCOS) line get very high ratings. Caveat: do a search on "green blob". Best bet is to go and look at the pictures for yourself, but even then be skeptical as a lot depends on how the TV's are set up in the showroom. Me, I find that the rear-projections look more film-like in nature. Whereas the direct-view flat panel LCD's and plasmas look a lot punchier and more TV-like, especially the latter as they also use phosphors. So, it in part depends on what you prefer in a picture. Very confusing, I know.

What confused me is he mentioned the lamp is replaceable. That is very unusual for a true LCD type display panel. It would be the first I've heard of in many years. -Larry "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KYdfh.2299$[email hidden]...

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> In article <oldfh.235$[email hidden]>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> > wrote: >>That's one of the LCOS rear-projections, right? >> >>Just wanted to clarify. It's a different technology than what people >>typically think of when they hear "LCD". It's not actually an LCD screen. >> >>I hear they are pretty good. > > Referring to the Panasonic? Panasonic doesn't make LCOS (Liquid > Crystal On Silicon). They make DLP, LCD and Plasma. LCOS makers > include Sony, JVC (and Syntax-Brilian?). It is reflective vs LCD's > transmissive. One of the resulting benefits is potential for darker > darks. Sony's SXRD (their trade term for LCOS) line get very high > ratings. Caveat: do a search on "green blob". > > Best bet is to go and look at the pictures for yourself, but even > then be skeptical as a lot depends on how the TV's are set up in the > showroom. Me, I find that the rear-projections look more film-like > in nature. Whereas the direct-view flat panel LCD's and plasmas > look a lot punchier and more TV-like, especially the latter as they > also use phosphors. So, it in part depends on what you prefer in a > picture. > > Very confusing, I know.

Yes it is an LCD rear Projection. Has 1 lamp that is consumer replaceable. Here is a link on it: http://products.howstuffworks.com/panasonic-pt-50lc14-50-inch-lcd-tv-review.htm I have had it over a year and with the Comcast HD/DVR box, it has a tremendous picture. I saw this along side Samsung and Sony DLP's of the day, and this picture was clearly the best. Money was no object at the time. I merely wanted what looked the best and brightest. As stated earlier, all the plasmas had glare in the showrooms due to their glass screens and that concerned me. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:oldfh.235$[email hidden]...

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> That's one of the LCOS rear-projections, right? > > Just wanted to clarify. It's a different technology than what people > typically think of when they hear "LCD". It's not actually an LCD screen. > > I hear they are pretty good. > > -Larry > > "Lancelot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> One of the big things I noticed when I purchased my set about a year ago >> was that the Plasma has a glass type screen and there was quite a bit of >> glare. I ended up with a Panasonic LCD 50" and it has been excellent so >> far. The bulb is replaceable and although I took an extended warranty to >> cover the bulb it still burns brightly. The best thing to do is go to >> circuit city, best buy ect and just look at them until you find the one >> that stands out. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:se_bh.6633$[email hidden]... >>> Burn-in is now pretty much a non factor on most decent Plasma's and >>> hasnt been for more than 2 years. DLP owners will ALWAYS point to >>> burn-in and they are just perpetuating the DLP industry "company line". >>> DLP was a cute interim technology but anyone that has had to spend >>> hundreds replacing guns every couple of years knows the real deal behind >>> DLP. >>> >>> Samsung and Sony recently announced a mfg partnership which should >>> present us with 46" and 52" LCD's at a very low price in the very near >>> future. >>> >>> Right now the only REALISTIC choice is Plasma, PERIOD. (can you say >>> 6hrs a day for 27yrs?). That 50" Plasma Samsung is REALLY interesting >>> for <$1500. >>> >>> Mitch >>> >>> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:mhabh.11230$[email hidden]... >>>>I don't agree with a lot in the comparisions, and find it technically >>>>weak. But it's a good start. >>>> >>>> I spent the better part of 4 months looking at every technology in >>>> person, in various stores, before I purchased. I went with DLP >>>> because: >>>> >>>> 1. There is no issue with burn-in. >>>> 2. The picture is simply gorgeous. >>>> 3. There is no backlight to worry about. Yes, the lamp has to be >>>> replaced every 5000 to 8000 hours, but it is a REPLACEABLE part. Try >>>> getting an LCD backlight replaced. In my work, I have to have several >>>> hundred Laptops repaired a year due to bad backlights (they are a >>>> relatively high-failure item). Every one has required LCD replacement >>>> at a very high cost. >>>> 4. I liked the built-in stand design of the Samsung HLP-5085. >>>> >>>> Most HDTV's have to do image conversion. However, the writer of the >>>> article seemed to only point to DLP as needing this. That is >>>> incorrect. >>>> >>>> Don't get me wrong. I like LCD's. I have FIVE of them around me in my >>>> office as I type this, including a 19" widescreen sony up on the wall >>>> playing "House". >>>> >>>> After much research and personal visits to see them, I just prefer DLP >>>> for my living room. >>>> >>>> -Larry >>>> >>>> "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:1rna1lq4dzudk$.xv1ao5zhkt31$[email hidden]... >>>>> http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Ok, so I was right afterall :) -Larry "Lancelot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Yes it is an LCD rear Projection. Has 1 lamp that is consumer replaceable. > Here is a link on it: > http://products.howstuffworks.com/panasonic-pt-50lc14-50-inch-lcd-tv-review.htm > > I have had it over a year and with the Comcast HD/DVR box, it has a > tremendous picture. I saw this along side Samsung and Sony DLP's of the > day, and this picture was clearly the best. Money was no object at the > time. I merely wanted what looked the best and brightest. As stated > earlier, all the plasmas had glare in the showrooms due to their glass > screens and that concerned me. > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:oldfh.235$[email hidden]... >> That's one of the LCOS rear-projections, right? >> >> Just wanted to clarify. It's a different technology than what people >> typically think of when they hear "LCD". It's not actually an LCD >> screen. >> >> I hear they are pretty good. >> >> -Larry >> >> "Lancelot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> One of the big things I noticed when I purchased my set about a year ago >>> was that the Plasma has a glass type screen and there was quite a bit of >>> glare. I ended up with a Panasonic LCD 50" and it has been excellent so >>> far. The bulb is replaceable and although I took an extended warranty to >>> cover the bulb it still burns brightly. The best thing to do is go to >>> circuit city, best buy ect and just look at them until you find the one >>> that stands out. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:se_bh.6633$[email hidden]... >>>> Burn-in is now pretty much a non factor on most decent Plasma's and >>>> hasnt been for more than 2 years. DLP owners will ALWAYS point to >>>> burn-in and they are just perpetuating the DLP industry "company line". >>>> DLP was a cute interim technology but anyone that has had to spend >>>> hundreds replacing guns every couple of years knows the real deal >>>> behind DLP. >>>> >>>> Samsung and Sony recently announced a mfg partnership which should >>>> present us with 46" and 52" LCD's at a very low price in the very near >>>> future. >>>> >>>> Right now the only REALISTIC choice is Plasma, PERIOD. (can you say >>>> 6hrs a day for 27yrs?). That 50" Plasma Samsung is REALLY interesting >>>> for <$1500. >>>> >>>> Mitch >>>> >>>> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:mhabh.11230$[email hidden]... >>>>>I don't agree with a lot in the comparisions, and find it technically >>>>>weak. But it's a good start. >>>>> >>>>> I spent the better part of 4 months looking at every technology in >>>>> person, in various stores, before I purchased. I went with DLP >>>>> because: >>>>> >>>>> 1. There is no issue with burn-in. >>>>> 2. The picture is simply gorgeous. >>>>> 3. There is no backlight to worry about. Yes, the lamp has to be >>>>> replaced every 5000 to 8000 hours, but it is a REPLACEABLE part. Try >>>>> getting an LCD backlight replaced. In my work, I have to have several >>>>> hundred Laptops repaired a year due to bad backlights (they are a >>>>> relatively high-failure item). Every one has required LCD replacement >>>>> at a very high cost. >>>>> 4. I liked the built-in stand design of the Samsung HLP-5085. >>>>> >>>>> Most HDTV's have to do image conversion. However, the writer of the >>>>> article seemed to only point to DLP as needing this. That is >>>>> incorrect. >>>>> >>>>> Don't get me wrong. I like LCD's. I have FIVE of them around me in >>>>> my office as I type this, including a 19" widescreen sony up on the >>>>> wall playing "House". >>>>> >>>>> After much research and personal visits to see them, I just prefer DLP >>>>> for my living room. >>>>> >>>>> -Larry >>>>> >>>>> "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>> news:1rna1lq4dzudk$.xv1ao5zhkt31$[email hidden]... >>>>>> http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

If you want to have some real fun with this set, split the screen and run GPL Monaco on 1 half while watching Monaco live on the other. Brilliant! "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c0Gfh.12106$[email hidden]...

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> Ok, so I was right afterall :) > > -Larry > > "Lancelot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Yes it is an LCD rear Projection. Has 1 lamp that is consumer >> replaceable. Here is a link on it: >> http://products.howstuffworks.com/panasonic-pt-50lc14-50-inch-lcd-tv-review.htm >> >> I have had it over a year and with the Comcast HD/DVR box, it has a >> tremendous picture. I saw this along side Samsung and Sony DLP's of the >> day, and this picture was clearly the best. Money was no object at the >> time. I merely wanted what looked the best and brightest. As stated >> earlier, all the plasmas had glare in the showrooms due to their glass >> screens and that concerned me. >> >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:oldfh.235$[email hidden]... >>> That's one of the LCOS rear-projections, right? >>> >>> Just wanted to clarify. It's a different technology than what people >>> typically think of when they hear "LCD". It's not actually an LCD >>> screen. >>> >>> I hear they are pretty good. >>> >>> -Larry >>> >>> "Lancelot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:[email hidden]... >>>> One of the big things I noticed when I purchased my set about a year >>>> ago was that the Plasma has a glass type screen and there was quite a >>>> bit of glare. I ended up with a Panasonic LCD 50" and it has been >>>> excellent so far. The bulb is replaceable and although I took an >>>> extended warranty to cover the bulb it still burns brightly. The best >>>> thing to do is go to circuit city, best buy ect and just look at them >>>> until you find the one that stands out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>> news:se_bh.6633$[email hidden]... >>>>> Burn-in is now pretty much a non factor on most decent Plasma's and >>>>> hasnt been for more than 2 years. DLP owners will ALWAYS point to >>>>> burn-in and they are just perpetuating the DLP industry "company >>>>> line". DLP was a cute interim technology but anyone that has had to >>>>> spend hundreds replacing guns every couple of years knows the real >>>>> deal behind DLP. >>>>> >>>>> Samsung and Sony recently announced a mfg partnership which should >>>>> present us with 46" and 52" LCD's at a very low price in the very near >>>>> future. >>>>> >>>>> Right now the only REALISTIC choice is Plasma, PERIOD. (can you say >>>>> 6hrs a day for 27yrs?). That 50" Plasma Samsung is REALLY interesting >>>>> for <$1500. >>>>> >>>>> Mitch >>>>> >>>>> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>> news:mhabh.11230$[email hidden]... >>>>>>I don't agree with a lot in the comparisions, and find it technically >>>>>>weak. But it's a good start. >>>>>> >>>>>> I spent the better part of 4 months looking at every technology in >>>>>> person, in various stores, before I purchased. I went with DLP >>>>>> because: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. There is no issue with burn-in. >>>>>> 2. The picture is simply gorgeous. >>>>>> 3. There is no backlight to worry about. Yes, the lamp has to be >>>>>> replaced every 5000 to 8000 hours, but it is a REPLACEABLE part. Try >>>>>> getting an LCD backlight replaced. In my work, I have to have >>>>>> several hundred Laptops repaired a year due to bad backlights (they >>>>>> are a relatively high-failure item). Every one has required LCD >>>>>> replacement at a very high cost. >>>>>> 4. I liked the built-in stand design of the Samsung HLP-5085. >>>>>> >>>>>> Most HDTV's have to do image conversion. However, the writer of the >>>>>> article seemed to only point to DLP as needing this. That is >>>>>> incorrect. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't get me wrong. I like LCD's. I have FIVE of them around me in >>>>>> my office as I type this, including a 19" widescreen sony up on the >>>>>> wall playing "House". >>>>>> >>>>>> After much research and personal visits to see them, I just prefer >>>>>> DLP for my living room. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Larry >>>>>> >>>>>> "RAID!!!" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>>>>> news:1rna1lq4dzudk$.xv1ao5zhkt31$[email hidden]... >>>>>>> http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >