Re: OT- Intel P4 motherboard chipsets

I've just upgraded my system to a P4 2.533Ghz with 512Mb RDRAM (PC1066) wich is hard to find but is a lot faster than DDR. It requires an Intel 850 Chipset and I bought an ASUS P4T533-C MoBo. The CPU, MoBo and RAM cost me about 650 USD wich added to the 10 Pounds I donated SimBin totals the money I spent because of GTR2002! (I had a P4 2GHz with 256Mb SIMM before the upgrade wich was good for all games except GTR2002). I'm still using my old GF4 4400 and at 1024 x 768 x 32 I get 100+ Frame Rates on all games except GPL of course with no overclocking. Lowest fps in Nascar 2002 with all details on and back of the grid of 43 cars is 59 fps at start (Daytona). I really recommend RDRAM although its a bit more expensive. Good Luck! Jo�o Gonzalez The SimBin guys are largely responsible for this and I am thinking of asking them for I have a GF4 4400 and my system flies like a jetplan "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Its upgrade time again. > > I'm thinking of going to a P4 setup with the 533 CPU bus and reusing my266 > DDR ram. I have been running AMD since N3, but I thought it was time togive

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> the other side a try. > > I was just looking at Newegg and I can get an Abit P4 board with the 845 > chipset which supports the 533 front side bus and upto 333 DDR ram , and a > retail 2.4 gig CPU for around $305. I'd be reusing the rest of my stuff > which includes 512 meg of 266 DDR ram, my GF3 video card, and Santa Cruz > sound card. A bubby of mine but together a similar system, but using a

SIS > chipset board (Soyo Dragon IIRC) and a GF2 Ultra and smoked my AMD XP1800, > ASUS A7M266 mobo, and GF3 in NR2002. > > So what is the hot ticket these days in the P4 motherboard world? Isthere > any known issues with any of my other hardware? > > MadDAWG > >

Its upgrade time again. I'm thinking of going to a P4 setup with the 533 CPU bus and reusing my 266 DDR ram. I have been running AMD since N3, but I thought it was time to give the other side a try. I was just looking at Newegg and I can get an Abit P4 board with the 845 chipset which supports the 533 front side bus and upto 333 DDR ram , and a retail 2.4 gig CPU for around $305. I'd be reusing the rest of my stuff which includes 512 meg of 266 DDR ram, my GF3 video card, and Santa Cruz sound card. A bubby of mine but together a similar system, but using a SIS chipset board (Soyo Dragon IIRC) and a GF2 Ultra and smoked my AMD XP1800, ASUS A7M266 mobo, and GF3 in NR2002. So what is the hot ticket these days in the P4 motherboard world? Is there any known issues with any of my other hardware? MadDAWG

One more thing. How are the P4s for power. I have a 350w Sparkle power supply. Will that be good enough? I had to buy it when I went to the XP chip. My old 300w that I was using on my T-bird didn't have enough punch to get the sucker started. MadDAWG

I have the Asus P4PE board with the Intel845PE chipset. My combination is the 2.66 Mhz chip, 512MB of Samsung DDR333 memory, and a Thermaltake 7+ cooler. I run mine at 150Mhz front side bus, and the memory is set to run at 385 Mhz. Everything is running Rock Solid, and the highest CPU temp I noticed has been 39 degrees Celcius, while playing the NR2003 demo. I would recommend this board to anyone looking to get into the P4 platform. I also upgraded from an AMD product. The high CPU temps with my XP2000 chip was the reason for switching back, but the new AMD chips are supposed to be a lot cooler operating than the older ones. Glen Pittman "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Its upgrade time again. > > I'm thinking of going to a P4 setup with the 533 CPU bus and reusing my266 > DDR ram. I have been running AMD since N3, but I thought it was time togive

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> the other side a try. > > I was just looking at Newegg and I can get an Abit P4 board with the 845 > chipset which supports the 533 front side bus and upto 333 DDR ram , and a > retail 2.4 gig CPU for around $305. I'd be reusing the rest of my stuff > which includes 512 meg of 266 DDR ram, my GF3 video card, and Santa Cruz > sound card. A bubby of mine but together a similar system, but using a

SIS > chipset board (Soyo Dragon IIRC) and a GF2 Ultra and smoked my AMD XP1800, > ASUS A7M266 mobo, and GF3 in NR2002. > > So what is the hot ticket these days in the P4 motherboard world? Isthere > any known issues with any of my other hardware? > > MadDAWG > >

"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Its upgrade time again. > > I'm thinking of going to a P4 setup with the 533 CPU bus and reusing my266 > DDR ram. I have been running AMD since N3, but I thought it was time togive

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> the other side a try. > > I was just looking at Newegg and I can get an Abit P4 board with the 845 > chipset which supports the 533 front side bus and upto 333 DDR ram , and a > retail 2.4 gig CPU for around $305. I'd be reusing the rest of my stuff > which includes 512 meg of 266 DDR ram, my GF3 video card, and Santa Cruz > sound card. A bubby of mine but together a similar system, but using a

SIS > chipset board (Soyo Dragon IIRC) and a GF2 Ultra and smoked my AMD XP1800, > ASUS A7M266 mobo, and GF3 in NR2002. > > So what is the hot ticket these days in the P4 motherboard world? Isthere > any known issues with any of my other hardware? > > MadDAWG Abit's are good boards, shouldn't have any problems, same with your older hardware with it. In terms of power supply, I'd go for a 400 watt. More power is always good :) John > >

> Abit's are good boards, shouldn't have any problems, same with yourolder > hardware with it. In terms of power supply, I'd go for a 400 watt. More > power is always good :) > > John True but if I go adding the price of a power supply in then the upgrade is getting a little spend. This is just my game box so all it runs is just the CPU/Video/sound. I have other computers that I use for burning CDs and that kind of stuff. I'm thinking mine should be enought to get me by. IIRC it was rated for P4s when I bought it. MadDAWG

"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Abit's are good boards, shouldn't have any problems, same with your > older > > hardware with it. In terms of power supply, I'd go for a 400 watt.More

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> > power is always good :) > > > > John > > > True but if I go adding the price of a power supply in then the upgrade is > getting a little spend. This is just my game box so all it runs is just

the > CPU/Video/sound. I have other computers that I use for burning CDs andthat > kind of stuff. I'm thinking mine should be enought to get me by. IIRC itwas > rated for P4s when I bought it. > > MadDAWG > Well, I had a 350 w, and it only lasted a relatively short time on a lesser system. What exactly fried it, I don't know, but the 400 w I replaced it with has been flawless fwiw. You can get a quality one for around $60 or so. John

"Sparkle" - what a yummiliciously eponymous name for a power supply. "Sparkle" was a verb used in the Nam in conjunction with high-rpm, crew-served weapons. It meant to blow something to smithereens. "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > One more thing. How are the P4s for power. I have a 350w Sparkle power > supply. Will that be good enough? I had to buy it when I went to the XP > chip. My old 300w that I was using on my T-bird didn't have enough punchto > get the sucker started. > > MadDAWG > >

I'd take a quick look at the new Intel 7205 Mobos. They're supposed to be Intels first attempt at a gamer friendly motherboard. Andi. "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Its upgrade time again. > > I'm thinking of going to a P4 setup with the 533 CPU bus and reusing my266 > DDR ram. I have been running AMD since N3, but I thought it was time togive

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> the other side a try. > > I was just looking at Newegg and I can get an Abit P4 board with the 845 > chipset which supports the 533 front side bus and upto 333 DDR ram , and a > retail 2.4 gig CPU for around $305. I'd be reusing the rest of my stuff > which includes 512 meg of 266 DDR ram, my GF3 video card, and Santa Cruz > sound card. A bubby of mine but together a similar system, but using a

SIS > chipset board (Soyo Dragon IIRC) and a GF2 Ultra and smoked my AMD XP1800, > ASUS A7M266 mobo, and GF3 in NR2002. > > So what is the hot ticket these days in the P4 motherboard world? Isthere > any known issues with any of my other hardware? > > MadDAWG > >

I'm also considering an upgrade to P4 and I think you should make sure your new mobo supports the new "Hyper Threading" P4's. (3GHz and above). The 845GE chipset does. I don't know if other chipsets do as well. This thing here; http://us.shuttle.com/specs2.asp?pro_id=85 is what I'm looking at. I'll put in a 2,2Ghz Celeron for now, and get a 3,6Ghz when they have dropped in price. :) I was hoping 2,2Ghz and my Radeon 8500LE would be enough to run GPL with the latest carsets and add-on tracks. -- Jone Tytlandsvik http://tytlandsvik.no

Jone Tytlandsvik wrote: > > I'm also considering an upgrade to P4 and I think you should make sure your > new mobo supports the new "Hyper Threading" P4's. (3GHz and above). The > 845GE chipset does. I don't know if other chipsets do as well. According to people in the know, not me :-), any of the Intel chip sets ending with an "E" supports HT, that means the 850E, 845 PE/GE etc....just don't sue me if this info is wrong, but the source is usually very reliable Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Yep thats what I have saw. It looks the 845pe and ge are the same just with or without graphic card onboard. The boards I have been looking at are of the 845PE type. MadDAWG

"Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qTZX9.2728$pS2.120017@stones... > I'd take a quick look at the new Intel 7205 Mobos. They're supposed to be > Intels first attempt at a gamer friendly motherboard. > > Andi. Are those just for RDRAM? I want to stick with DDR for now. MadDAWG

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>> Abit's are good boards, shouldn't have any problems, same with your >> older >> hardware with it. In terms of power supply, I'd go for a 400 watt. >> More power is always good :) >> >> John > > > True but if I go adding the price of a power supply in then the upgrade > is getting a little spend. This is just my game box so all it runs is > just the CPU/Video/sound. I have other computers that I use for burning > CDs and that kind of stuff. I'm thinking mine should be enought to get > me by. IIRC it was rated for P4s when I bought it. > > MadDAWG

I was doing some research myself recently and Sparkle has pretty good reputation. Many says that 350W Sparkle can give much more power than it is rated (unlike many other PS which don't even give what was promised). So it's likely you PS will be good enough. You can find plenty info and feedback on Sparkle's. Just look at overclocking sites/forums. Alex.

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> I'm also considering an upgrade to P4 and I think you should make sure > your new mobo supports the new "Hyper Threading" P4's. > > -- > Jone Tytlandsvik > http://tytlandsvik.no >

At this time I would AVOID any item that is related to Hyperthreading. So far, from what I've read, Intel has found a way to slow down a very fast chip. The HT is supposed to mimic two chips..but what it mimics are two chips with only half the onboard cache and half the pipelines available to either. You can turn OFF the HT but the XP system will still load a crap- load of extra files needed to support HT. Apparently only a full wiping and re-install will remove all those extra files. HT 'MAY' someday become a good idea, but right now, ESPECIALLY FOR GAMING it is a bad bad idea. The only reason to look for support of HT in a Motherboard would be to ensure some future upgradeability, but the performance cost of the actual product is too great to be of ANY advantage. dave henrie

No, my SuperMicro P4SAA runs DDR but it is dual channel so if you have two sticks (which must be the same) you'll get speeds in excess of RAMBUS 1066 - or so I'm told. I'm still in the process of building my new PC but so far it's looking damn fast. Still need a GF FX though to make it really quick. 3DMark2001 SE 13771 with no tweaks, everything as it came out of the box except for the nVidia 41.09 drivers for the 4600 card. It is really difficult these days to choose which way to go, I use a samll company in Scotland for advice and get my bits from them. I could get cheaper prices if I went to all sorts of different places and spemt hours searching. This way if anything is wrong it's just a phone call. (www.amazoninternational.com - nothing to do with 'the' Amazon) Cheers. Andi. "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qTZX9.2728$pS2.120017@stones... > > I'd take a quick look at the new Intel 7205 Mobos. They're supposed tobe

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> > Intels first attempt at a gamer friendly motherboard. > > > > Andi. > > Are those just for RDRAM? I want to stick with DDR for now. > > MadDAWG > >

Hmm, interseting, I'll have to turn mine off and see what happens. Andi. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:b0ps24$s0ls5$[email hidden]: > > > I'm also considering an upgrade to P4 and I think you should make sure > > your new mobo supports the new "Hyper Threading" P4's. > > > > > -- > > Jone Tytlandsvik > > http://tytlandsvik.no > > > At this time I would AVOID any item that is related to Hyperthreading. > So far, from what I've read, Intel has found a way to slow down a very

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> chip. The HT is supposed to mimic two chips..but what it mimics are two > chips with only half the onboard cache and half the pipelines available to > either. You can turn OFF the HT but the XP system will still load a crap- > load of extra files needed to support HT. Apparently only a full wiping > and re-install will remove all those extra files. HT 'MAY' someday become > a good idea, but right now, ESPECIALLY FOR GAMING it is a bad bad idea. > The only reason to look for support of HT in a Motherboard would be to > ensure some future upgradeability, but the performance cost of the actual > product is too great to be of ANY advantage. > > dave henrie > >

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > either. You can turn OFF the HT but the XP system will still load a crap- > load of extra files needed to support HT. Apparently only a full wiping > and re-install will remove all those extra files. How do you turn off the HT? In BIOS or can you choose when you install XP? Will a XP/XP dualboot make it possible to have one with HT on and one with HT off? Jone.

You can turn HT off in the BIOS and I've just tried it, it appears to make no difference at all. PC is a P4 3.06 Supermicro P4SAA 1GB PC2700 DDR GF 4 4600 41.09 drivers Win XP Pro With HT enabled I get 13771 in 3DMark2001 SE and 13776 with HT disabled. I suspect you need HT code to make any real difference. In the mean time I can see no reason to change the defauilt state. Andi. "Jone Tytlandsvik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b0r143$s6m97$[email hidden]... > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > either. You can turn OFF the HT but the XP system will still load acrap-

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> > load of extra files needed to support HT. Apparently only a full wiping > > and re-install will remove all those extra files. > > How do you turn off the HT? In BIOS or can you choose when you install XP? > Will a XP/XP dualboot make it possible to have one with HT on and one with > HT off? > > Jone. > >

Just tried it and it makes no difference, 13771 with HT and 13776 without in 3DMark2001 SE. Andi. "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Nm7Y9.3624$pS2.138261@stones... > No, my SuperMicro P4SAA runs DDR but it is dual channel so if you have two > sticks (which must be the same) you'll get speeds in excess of RAMBUS1066 - > or so I'm told. > > I'm still in the process of building my new PC but so far it's lookingdamn > fast. Still need a GF FX though to make it really quick. 3DMark2001 SE13771

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> with no tweaks, everything as it came out of the box except for the nVidia > 41.09 drivers for the 4600 card. > > It is really difficult these days to choose which way to go, I use a samll > company in Scotland for advice and get my bits from them. I could get > cheaper prices if I went to all sorts of different places and spemt hours > searching. This way if anything is wrong it's just a phone call. > (www.amazoninternational.com - nothing to do with 'the' Amazon) > > Cheers. > > Andi. > > > > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:qTZX9.2728$pS2.120017@stones... > > > I'd take a quick look at the new Intel 7205 Mobos. They're supposed to > be > > > Intels first attempt at a gamer friendly motherboard. > > > > > > Andi. > > > > Are those just for RDRAM? I want to stick with DDR for now. > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > >

According to Dave's post just turning it off in the BIOS would not give you any difference. XP is still loading the dual CPU files so even with it off you would be suffering from the overhead at this point with it enabled or disabled. Of course that is if I understand Dave's post 100% However I thought the Papy games could take advantage of dual CPUs. MadDAWG

Hi Andy, according to Dave you'd need to reinstall XP to really disable HT. However, as for the speed advantages, I've read a few articles about this feature and the benchmarks in these showed a fairly clear picture. In these benchmarks HT on average speed up applications by about 10% - 15% if the application executes tasks which can be parallelised. If not, HT made the applications slower by about 5% - 10%. Exceptions existed as well, where applications were accelerated by more than these 15%. A personaly consideration I made was the following - if an application cannot parallelise its tasks but you usually have other applications / processes running in the background, like when flying IL2 online while using Roger Wilco for the Radio comms, with the drivers for the Ethernet card that you ADSL modem is connected to and maybe a system service running as well, that makes it IMHO a perfect multitasking environment where HT should give your system speed a boost. Unfortunately, such an environment was not tested in the articles I read. I am not sure in how far N2002 or N2003 parallelise their internal processes, as sound / graphics and physics would seem to be interdependent (can't play tire squeal before you know it's going to squeal, and can't draw image before you know the future attitude of the car), but Papy said N2002 profits from Dual Processors, so I assume there will be an advantage for HT in Papys new sims. Let me add that I personally use an Athlon XP 2800 <g> so I'm not saying this as an Intel fanboy (it's so easy to get that fanboy stamp whacked on the forehead these days in this NG <g>). I was considering getting a P4 3.06 but decided against it as I found it's just not worth the money. But I do think it's proven that HT can make things faster, and I think online gaming is an environment where that would happen. Achim "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vZ7Y9.3653$pS2.139216@stones... > Just tried it and it makes no difference, 13771 with HT and 13776 withoutin > 3DMark2001 SE.

"Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:vZ7Y9.3653$pS2.139216@stones: > Just tried it and it makes no difference, 13771 with HT and 13776 > without in 3DMark2001 SE. > > Andi. > that's because 3dmark is a benchmark focused on your videocard. A cpu instensive benchmark might display different results. You could try and simulate the HT by running several background programs while 3dmark is testing. I don't know if that will show any differences, but it might. Certainly the 3.06 is a fast fast chip. But the promises of Hyperthreading itself seem overblown at this point. dave henrie

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> According to Dave's post just turning it off in the BIOS would not > give you any difference. XP is still loading the dual CPU files so > even with it off you would be suffering from the overhead at this > point with it enabled or disabled. Of course that is if I understand > Dave's post 100% However I thought the Papy games could take > advantage of dual CPUs. > > MadDAWG >

Yeah I'm never the clearest at explanations am I? :) Unfortunately I don't have any first hand experience with Hyperthreading, All I'm going by are a couple of print magazines that tested the new chip. This goes back kinda to my feelings of 'When is an upgrade NOT an upgrade.' While Hyperthreading MAY SOMEDAY be a performance boon, at best it makes for a modest gain, and at worst is a resource hog that lowers overall system performance. Benchmarking the Papy sims might be a great project for some enterprising P4 3.06/Xp owner. :) dave henrie

"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<RfYX9.51$[email hidden]>... > "Sparkle" - what a yummiliciously eponymous name for a power supply. > "Sparkle" was a verb used in the Nam in conjunction with high-rpm, > crew-served weapons. It meant to blow something to smithereens. Hahaha. I sure hope it doesn't blow my system to smithereens since I just bought a Sparkle power supply. ;-)

Mine has been running great for almost a year now. Its also a lot cooler than my old 300 as well. MadDAWG

HT will only be of benefit in apps which are programmed to use smp (symetric multi prcoessing) almost all games don't. The Quake 2/3 engine games will with some minor fidling although even those are not always sucessfull. Most benchmarking programs don't allow for smp so you probably won't notice a difference there either. When it does work it kicks ass mind you an of course it's brilliant for servers. Some Call Me Tim

Dunno John......... Ask others about my experiences with Abit boards :-) There's a long running joke about all the stuff I had to deal with concerning The Abit board I had and Nascar 4 & 2002. I think it was a BE6II. John Pancoast wrote:

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> "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Its upgrade time again. > > > > I'm thinking of going to a P4 setup with the 533 CPU bus and reusing my > 266 > > DDR ram. I have been running AMD since N3, but I thought it was time to > give > > the other side a try. > > > > I was just looking at Newegg and I can get an Abit P4 board with the 845 > > chipset which supports the 533 front side bus and upto 333 DDR ram , and a > > retail 2.4 gig CPU for around $305. I'd be reusing the rest of my stuff > > which includes 512 meg of 266 DDR ram, my GF3 video card, and Santa Cruz > > sound card. A bubby of mine but together a similar system, but using a > SIS > > chipset board (Soyo Dragon IIRC) and a GF2 Ultra and smoked my AMD XP1800, > > ASUS A7M266 mobo, and GF3 in NR2002. > > > > So what is the hot ticket these days in the P4 motherboard world? Is > there > > any known issues with any of my other hardware? > > > > MadDAWG > > Abit's are good boards, shouldn't have any problems, same with your older > hardware with it. In terms of power supply, I'd go for a 400 watt. More > power is always good :) > > John > > > > >

-- Ric Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 [email hidden] http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson

Ric Seyler wrote: > > Dunno John......... Ask others about my experiences with Abit boards :-) > There's a long running joke about all the stuff I had to deal with concerning > The Abit board I had and Nascar 4 & 2002. I think it was a BE6II. There's a long running joke about you and computers....period Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

The hot ticket is the ASUS P4T533. No doubt about it. I'm running a ASUS P4T533 with a P42.53 @ 2.8 and 512 Samsung 1066 32bit Rambus ram. Running Win98se and a Ti4400. The P4T533-C board uses 16 bit Rambus Ram not 32bit. And so far so good! I've had a screwy random lockup w/N2K2 but I think I tracked it down to Norton 2003 Pro. I have to manually kill it in CTRL-ALT-DEL. Just turning it off didn't work. MadDAWG wrote:

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> Its upgrade time again. > > I'm thinking of going to a P4 setup with the 533 CPU bus and reusing my 266 > DDR ram. I have been running AMD since N3, but I thought it was time to give > the other side a try. > > I was just looking at Newegg and I can get an Abit P4 board with the 845 > chipset which supports the 533 front side bus and upto 333 DDR ram , and a > retail 2.4 gig CPU for around $305. I'd be reusing the rest of my stuff > which includes 512 meg of 266 DDR ram, my GF3 video card, and Santa Cruz > sound card. A bubby of mine but together a similar system, but using a SIS > chipset board (Soyo Dragon IIRC) and a GF2 Ultra and smoked my AMD XP1800, > ASUS A7M266 mobo, and GF3 in NR2002. > > So what is the hot ticket these days in the P4 motherboard world? Is there > any known issues with any of my other hardware? > > MadDAWG

-- Ric Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 [email hidden] http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Bite Me ;-) Goy Larsen wrote:

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> Ric Seyler wrote: > > > > Dunno John......... Ask others about my experiences with Abit boards :-) > > There's a long running joke about all the stuff I had to deal with concerning > > The Abit board I had and Nascar 4 & 2002. I think it was a BE6II. > > There's a long running joke about you and computers....period > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

-- Ric Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 [email hidden] http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson

I have the Asus P4T533-C but the Gigabyte GA-8IHXP may be a better choice.. 6 of one half a dozen of the other.. Mitch "Ric Seyler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The hot ticket is the ASUS P4T533. No doubt about it. > > I'm running a ASUS P4T533 with a P42.53 @ 2.8 and 512 Samsung > 1066 32bit Rambus ram. Running Win98se and a Ti4400. > > The P4T533-C board uses 16 bit Rambus Ram not 32bit. > > And so far so good! I've had a screwy random lockup w/N2K2 > but I think I tracked it down to Norton 2003 Pro. I have to manually > kill it in CTRL-ALT-DEL. Just turning it off didn't work. > > MadDAWG wrote: > > > Its upgrade time again. > > > > I'm thinking of going to a P4 setup with the 533 CPU bus and reusing my

266 > > DDR ram. I have been running AMD since N3, but I thought it was time togive > > the other side a try. > > > > I was just looking at Newegg and I can get an Abit P4 board with the 845 > > chipset which supports the 533 front side bus and upto 333 DDR ram , anda > > retail 2.4 gig CPU for around $305. I'd be reusing the rest of my stuff > > which includes 512 meg of 266 DDR ram, my GF3 video card, and Santa Cruz > > sound card. A bubby of mine but together a similar system, but using aSIS > > chipset board (Soyo Dragon IIRC) and a GF2 Ultra and smoked my AMDXP1800, > > ASUS A7M266 mobo, and GF3 in NR2002. > > > > So what is the hot ticket these days in the P4 motherboard world? Isthere

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> > any known issues with any of my other hardware? > > > > MadDAWG > > -- > Ric Seyler > Online Racing: RicSeyler > GPL Handicap 6.35 > [email hidden] > http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler > -------------------------------------- > "Homer no function beer well without." > - H.J. Simpson > > >

ROFLMAO -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Ric Seyler wrote: > > > > Dunno John......... Ask others about my experiences with Abit boards :-) > > There's a long running joke about all the stuff I had to deal with concerning > > The Abit board I had and Nascar 4 & 2002. I think it was a BE6II. > > There's a long running joke about you and computers....period > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--