OT: 8x AGP which motherboards

What motherboards support this, my system is only 6 months old and only shows being a 4x, the latest Alienware system using the Asus P4 motherboard is only 4x? Don't you need 8x for the new FX or 9700

Don't need it, since they are AGP 1x, 2x, and 4x, compatible...but it sure is nice! "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What motherboards support this, my system is only 6 months old and only > shows being a 4x, the latest Alienware system using the Asus P4motherboard > is only 4x? Don't you need 8x for the new FX or 9700 > >

ASUS has a P4 board that is 8x AGP. Bill Berry

8x AGP does absolutely nothing useful "WillyB4120" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > ASUS has a P4 board that is 8x AGP. > > Bill Berry

For the AMD platform, any Nforce2, KT400, or SIS 648/746 based motherboards support AGP 8X. -Tim "Morris Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What motherboards support this, my system is only 6 months old and only > shows being a 4x, the latest Alienware system using the Asus P4motherboard > is only 4x? Don't you need 8x for the new FX or 9700 > >

"frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BOJ_9.2885$[email hidden]... > 8x AGP does absolutely nothing useful Except double the bandwidth to your video card... What kind of generic comment is that?! Please qualify your statement. I'm running a 9700 Pro on 8x and when I switch it to 4x I see a noticable difference in performance.

"Dalek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > You won't see > much dif on an 8X mb compared to 4X anyway so don't bother buying a > new mb just because it supports 8X agp. Have you tried it yourself? I'm running a 9700 Pro on 8x and when I switch it to 4x I see a noticable difference in performance.

I believe you, but would also like to know why it does not help. Could you post a little explanation or maybe a link with some info about 8x AGP. "frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BOJ_9.2885$[email hidden]...

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> 8x AGP does absolutely nothing useful > > "WillyB4120" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > ASUS has a P4 board that is 8x AGP. > > > > Bill Berry > > >

I think i read it on tomshardware.com but i dont have the specific link but im pretty sure its just marketing hype, and you wont see any improvement with it. "Don Jacobs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:76X_9.120710$rM2.53521@rwcrnsc53... > I believe you, but would also like to know why it does not help. Couldyou

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> post a little explanation or maybe a link with some info about 8x AGP. > "frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:BOJ_9.2885$[email hidden]... > > 8x AGP does absolutely nothing useful > > > > "WillyB4120" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > ASUS has a P4 board that is 8x AGP. > > > > > > Bill Berry > > > > > > > >

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> >>Have you tried it yourself? I'm running a 9700 Pro on 8x and when I >>switch it to 4x I see a noticable difference in performance. >> > > Post your benchmarks. Saying "I see a noticeable difference" doesn't > persuade me. > --

yeah, which way is the difference? IS 8x faster or is 8x slower? either way is a noticeable difference right? dave henrie

I have yet to read a technical review that shows ANY benifit to 8x AGP. Until textures get so big that they won't fit in our graphics boards any longer, the AGP transfer rate will remain just a marketing point. Maybe some day... Larry "frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yi__9.5480$[email hidden]... > I think i read it on tomshardware.com but i dont have the specific linkbut

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> im pretty sure its just marketing hype, and you wont see any improvement > with it. > > > "Don Jacobs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:76X_9.120710$rM2.53521@rwcrnsc53... > > I believe you, but would also like to know why it does not help. Could > you > > post a little explanation or maybe a link with some info about 8x AGP. > > "frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:BOJ_9.2885$[email hidden]... > > > 8x AGP does absolutely nothing useful > > > > > > "WillyB4120" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > ASUS has a P4 board that is 8x AGP. > > > > > > > > Bill Berry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 05:00:42 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I have yet to read a technical review that shows ANY benifit to 8x AGP. > >Until textures get so big that they won't fit in our graphics boards any >longer, the AGP transfer rate will remain just a marketing point. > >Maybe some day... APG Texturing(DIME) died with the Riva128. The absolute main issue with regards to the graphics card bus is geometry throughout. A 2X port can already be easily saturated with vertex information. It's only a matter of time until the 4X AGP is a bottleneck, if it isn't already. The GFFX pushes twice the number of polygons as the 9700! And the 9700 pushes almost three times as many as a GF3!

3DMark2001SE 8x 14617 4x 12843 "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Dalek > > > >>Have you tried it yourself? I'm running a 9700 Pro on 8x and when I > >>switch it to 4x I see a noticable difference in performance. > >> > > > > Post your benchmarks. Saying "I see a noticeable difference" doesn't > > persuade me. > > -- > yeah, which way is the difference? IS 8x faster or is 8x slower? > either way is a noticeable difference right? > dave henrie