OT: Ausie V8s

This is for Goy! Hey man I am watching last years race at the gold coast and many of the competitors made their compulsory tire change on or about lap 4-5. Why? Obviously the tires will last the race then why not wait till most of the others have pitted and use the clear track to your advantage? I must be missing something in the rules or strategy? Seems odd seeing a Falcon ;) Mitch

"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:4Rd%9.149$[email hidden]:

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> This is for Goy! > > Hey man I am watching last years race at the gold coast and many of the > competitors made their compulsory tire change on or about lap 4-5. Why? > Obviously the tires will last the race then why not wait till most of the > others have pitted and use the clear track to your advantage? I must be > missing something in the rules or strategy? > > Seems odd seeing a Falcon ;) > > Mitch > > >

strategy I would think When you are in a line of cars, it is difficult to run clean laps. So those who are not in a clear posisiton will come in early to hopefully come out to a clear track. They can then run faster laps than the cars stuck in the pak. THEN when the pak cars pit, they 'should' be behind the early pitters. dave henrie

I think it has to do with the worry of full course yellows. Those who pit early can take advantage of any full course yellows that come up. "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4Rd%9.149$[email hidden]...

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> This is for Goy! > > Hey man I am watching last years race at the gold coast and many of the > competitors made their compulsory tire change on or about lap 4-5. Why? > Obviously the tires will last the race then why not wait till most of the > others have pitted and use the clear track to your advantage? I must be > missing something in the rules or strategy? > > Seems odd seeing a Falcon ;) > > Mitch > >

Could it be that they are forced to start on the same set of tires as they qualifed the car with? If thaqt would mean that their tires probably are of a soft compound and/or pretty 'scrubbed' from the start - hence their short life. -- ed_ ---------------------------------------------- $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4Rd%9.149$[email hidden]... > This is for Goy! > > Hey man I am watching last years race at the gold coast and many of the > competitors made their compulsory tire change on or about lap 4-5. Why? > Obviously the tires will last the race then why not wait till most of the > others have pitted and use the clear track to your advantage? I must be > missing something in the rules or strategy? > > Seems odd seeing a Falcon ;) > > Mitch > >

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> > Could it be that they are forced to start on the same set of tires as they > qualifed the car with? > If thaqt would mean that their tires probably are of a soft compound and/or > pretty 'scrubbed' from the start - hence their short life. > > -- > ed_ > > ---------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4Rd%9.149$[email hidden]... > > This is for Goy! > > > > Hey man I am watching last years race at the gold coast and many of the > > competitors made their compulsory tire change on or about lap 4-5. Why? > > Obviously the tires will last the race then why not wait till most of the > > others have pitted and use the clear track to your advantage? I must be > > missing something in the rules or strategy? > > > > Seems odd seeing a Falcon ;) > > > > Mitch

Current rules only allow for the use of 10 tires over the weekend if I understood the commentary right, I expect that leads to some strategy moves that seems curious to us But on the other hand, if you have a fast car but is stuck in traffic, it might pay to pit early and save those tires for a later race, the stop will drop you behind the field and you have a clear track to work with Just guessing as I don't have AussieV8's on TV here now, if hadn't been for one of the guys at "The Pits" I wouldn't have seen any of 02 season, thx again Dave !!! :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote > strategy I would think When you are in a line of cars, it is difficult > to run clean laps. So those who are not in a clear posisiton will come in > early to hopefully come out to a clear track. They can then run faster > laps than the cars stuck in the pak I can see some little logic with the fact that the best thing you can have is to pit under green *just* before a full course yellow. On Nascar road tracks, it's been the winning strategy, but it's pure luck. You waste several seconds by going into the pits to change those tyres. You do not gain those lost seconds easily, especially considerning how often the yellow flag goes out. I don't see how can anybody gain 30 seconds lost on a pitstop by running alone vs. running in a pack. It's not like you loose 5 seconds a lap just by being behind somebody. > THEN when the pak cars pit, they > 'should' be behind the early pitters. But then, those early pitters will have to pit again. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

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> >> THEN when the pak cars pit, they >> 'should' be behind the early pitters. > > > But then, those early pitters will have to pit again. >

-- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ I think the Ozzie V8's are one-stop races. Goy? dave henrie

> > But then, those early pitters will have to pit again. > > -- > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > I think the Ozzie V8's are one-stop races. Goy? I believe they have an enforced pit stop with a window of laps to take it - like the British Touring cars

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> > > > But then, those early pitters will have to pit again. > > > -- > > > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > > > I think the Ozzie V8's are one-stop races. Goy? > > I believe they have an enforced pit stop with a window of laps to take it - like > the British Touring cars

Correct, they also use "control" tyres, pit window is usually from a couple of laps in until a couple of laps from the end Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> > Current rules only allow for the use of 10 tires over the weekend if I > understood the commentary right, I expect that leads to some strategy > moves that seems curious to us > > But on the other hand, if you have a fast car but is stuck in traffic, > it might pay to pit early and save those tires for a later race, the > stop will drop you behind the field and you have a clear track to work > with > > Just guessing as I don't have AussieV8's on TV here now, if hadn't been > for one of the guys at "The Pits" I wouldn't have seen any of 02 season, > thx again Dave !!! :-)

NP Goy ;) This is the first year I've actually watched Aussie V8s, but this is what I've learned so far. Most of the races have a fixed number of tires allowed per weekend. There are 2-3 races per weekend. The teams usually try to save a good set for the final stint of the last race. They can't make their compulsory stop during a yellow flag, so they usually stop early to keep from getting caught out by a full course caution. Sometimes a late pit gamble pays off, but not usually. But each race seems to have it's own rules. The Bathurst endurance race didn't seem to have any special rules. Great racing on mostly good tracks. Although it's been kinda painful to watch this season as a Ford fan, heheh. I can see now why a certain person keeps the AV8 crusade alive ;). db

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> > NP Goy ;) > > This is the first year I've actually watched Aussie V8s, but this is what > I've learned so far. > > Most of the races have a fixed number of tires allowed per weekend. There > are 2-3 races per weekend. The teams usually try to save a good set for the > final stint of the last race. They can't make their compulsory stop during a > yellow flag, so they usually stop early to keep from getting caught out by a > full course caution. Sometimes a late pit gamble pays off, but not usually. > But each race seems to have it's own rules. The Bathurst endurance race > didn't seem to have any special rules. > > Great racing on mostly good tracks. Although it's been kinda painful to > watch this season as a Ford fan, heheh. I can see now why a certain person > keeps the AV8 crusade alive ;).

Quite simply because it's the best road racing series there is...:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

>"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote > Quite simply because it's the best road racing series there is...:-) I really like the simple/short tracks (except Bathurst). They give lots of action and they are for the most pretty tight. The track width is very narrow on almost all of those tracks. There's no Kuala Lumpur there in that series. The cars jump on the kerbs, drift wide into the tall grass just at the edge of the track, often the track radius of some corner exit will make it so that the cars barely round the outside edge of the corners. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4Rd%9.149$[email hidden]...

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> This is for Goy! > > Hey man I am watching last years race at the gold coast and many of the > competitors made their compulsory tire change on or about lap 4-5. Why? > Obviously the tires will last the race then why not wait till most of the > others have pitted and use the clear track to your advantage? I must be > missing something in the rules or strategy?

Ok, the reason for this is that for some stupid reason they are not allowed to make their compulsory tire change under yellow flags. This means that if you take your pit stop as early as possible, then if there is a yellow flag (which is highly likely seeing as these guys drive like morons) you can catch up the 30 seconds or so which you have lost in the pit lane. Personally I think its a stupid rule. > Seems odd seeing a Falcon ;) hey? Falcons are tops - don't knock em till your tried em David Corless

If you guys love the Aussie v8's, you really should try to get a look at the Brutes. Thats the Aussie Ford and Holden Utes (Pick-ups for the Americans). Barely a straight panel after these guys race Steve

Me knock a Falcon? A High school buddy owned a 64 Falcon and we made many road trips to Santa Cruz in that car and it never let us down once, and we really did do some thrashing in it ;) Oh to be 17 again... Mitch

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> > Seems odd seeing a Falcon ;) > > hey? Falcons are tops - don't knock em till your tried em > > David Corless > >

"> I can see now why a certain person > keeps the AV8 crusade alive ;). Same here. All his posting got me watching them too. I never was a fan of the Winston Cup guys on road course tracks before so I never really considered it. After watching the V8s I know that it could be pretty cool if the track is suited for them bigger cars. MadDAWG

> hey? Falcons are tops - don't knock em till your tried em > > David Corless I love the "green eyed monster". Do the production Falcons come with v8s? If so I hope Ford follows GM's lead and brings them over here tot he states. I'd go hunting ricers. lol MadDAWG

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> > > hey? Falcons are tops - don't knock em till your tried em > > > > David Corless > > I love the "green eyed monster". > > Do the production Falcons come with v8s? If so I hope Ford follows GM's > lead and brings them over here tot he states. I'd go hunting ricers. lol

http://www.fordperformancevehicles.com.au/ Course, it's not as nice as the Holden's, but there you go Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

> Course, it's not as nice as the Holden's, but there you go Holdens look too much like a crap GM product. Oh wait............. yeah that explains it. lol MadDAWG

Holdens look too much like a ***GM product. Oh wait............. yeah that explains it. lol MadDAWG

MadDAWG wrote: > > > Course, it's not as nice as the Holden's, but there you go > > Holdens look too much like a crap GM product. Oh wait............. yeah > that explains it. lol http://www.hsv.com.au These Aussies know how to make a 4 door sedan look good, I'll give them that, the Opel Omega they sell here in Europe doesn't look anything as good......and aren't nearly as fast, despite being based on the same car Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

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> MadDAWG wrote: > > > > > Course, it's not as nice as the Holden's, but there you go > > > > Holdens look too much like a crap GM product. Oh wait............. yeah > > that explains it. lol > > http://www.hsv.com.au > > These Aussies know how to make a 4 door sedan look good, I'll give them > that, the Opel Omega they sell here in Europe doesn't look anything as > good......and aren't nearly as fast, despite being based on the same car

Holden's rule, I can't belive it's only a Opel :) Drove a Commodore 4.0L V6 200 Hp from Surfers Paradise to Melbourne. Great piece of machinery. And it beat the crap out of the similary engined Ford Mustang Convertible I rented in the US. Even if the engine was about the same size and performance, the US automatic was a real bummer compared to the aussie automatic. -- Olav Malmin remove .spam when replying

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> > Holden's rule, I can't belive it's only a Opel :) Drove a Commodore > 4.0L V6 200 Hp from Surfers Paradise to Melbourne. Great piece of > machinery. And it beat the crap out of the similary engined Ford > Mustang Convertible I rented in the US. Even if the engine was about > the same size and performance, the US automatic was a real bummer > compared to the aussie automatic.

LOL, rented a Mustang myself when I was in the US a couple of years ago, not a convertible though, and while I enjoyed the overall handling of the car, it was actually better than expected, the 3.8 V6 (no V8's available for rental at the time) wasn't the kind of engine you'd expect in a car like that, and the less said about the Auto box the better...:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

"Steve Whitty" <stev_mazz at optusnet dot com dot au> wrote in message news:3e3dfa7d$0$27992$[email hidden]... > If you guys love the Aussie v8's, you really should try to get a look atthe > Brutes. Thats the Aussie Ford and Holden Utes (Pick-ups for theAmericans). > Barely a straight panel after these guys race That's because they drive like even bigger morons than the V8 supercar drivers David Corless

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> > "> I can see now why a certain person >> keeps the AV8 crusade alive ;). > > > Same here. All his posting got me watching them too. I never was a fan > of the Winston Cup guys on road course tracks before so I never really > considered it. After watching the V8s I know that it could be pretty > cool if the track is suited for them bigger cars. > > MadDAWG >

I have seen several users compare the Aussie V8's to Winston Cup cars. A better, closer comparision would be to view the Aussie Supercars vs the American Trans Am cars. Both are road course purpose built vehicles. I think from just casual viewing the Trans Am cars may have a-bit more Aero bodywork. But the Aussies, at least at Bathurst, seem to have a little more top-end. It would be great fun to see a Rocketsports Jaguar run Bathurst with the Supercars. dave henrie

Thats why mine has a V8 along with plenty of goodies, but it still is an automatic. MadDAWG

> I have seen several users compare the Aussie V8's to Winston Cup cars. > A better, closer comparision would be to view the Aussie Supercars vs the > American Trans Am cars. Both are road course purpose built vehicles. From what I have seen the power to weight ratio is about the same between the Cup cars and Aussie V8s. I would tend to agree that the Trans Am cars without the aero body work would be a lot closer overall performance wise. MadDAWG

Naa, its because they don't get severe penalties for touching the other car like the Supercar drivers do. Steve "David Corless" <david.corless.no.spam[@]utseduau> wrote in message news:y9v%9.314$[email hidden]...

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> > "Steve Whitty" <stev_mazz at optusnet dot com dot au> wrote in message > news:3e3dfa7d$0$27992$[email hidden]... > > If you guys love the Aussie v8's, you really should try to get a look at > the > > Brutes. Thats the Aussie Ford and Holden Utes (Pick-ups for the > Americans). > > Barely a straight panel after these guys race > > That's because they drive like even bigger morons than the V8 supercar > drivers > > David Corless > >

"Steve Whitty" <stev_mazz at optusnet dot com dot au> wrote in message news:3e3ee2dc$0$7811$[email hidden]... > Naa, its because they don't get severe penalties for touching the othercar > like the Supercar drivers do. > > Steve Which means its ok to smash into other cars?

who said it was ok to smash into other cars? Staf "David Corless" <david.corless.no.spam[@]utseduau> wrote in message news:lfF%9.102$[email hidden]...

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> "Steve Whitty" <stev_mazz at optusnet dot com dot au> wrote in message > news:3e3ee2dc$0$7811$[email hidden]... > > Naa, its because they don't get severe penalties for touching the other > car > > like the Supercar drivers do. > > > > Steve > > Which means its ok to smash into other cars? > > >

> Thats why mine has a V8 along with plenty of goodies, but it still is an > automatic. How are the auto gearboxes in the new Falcons? The previous model had one of sloppiest autos I've seen for quite a while.

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> > > MadDAWG wrote: > > > > > Course, it's not as nice as the Holden's, but there you go > > > > Holdens look too much like a crap GM product. Oh wait............. yeah > > that explains it. lol > > http://www.hsv.com.au > > These Aussies know how to make a 4 door sedan look good, I'll give them > that, the Opel Omega they sell here in Europe doesn't look anything as > good......and aren't nearly as fast, despite being based on the same car

Hey, don�t know which Opel Omega you know, but our Omega does look very good. Just don�t order an Omega with the standard wheels, that really doesn�t look good. Go for the 17" with sporty tires and you�ll get an great car. But I agree, the Omega in Holden Commodore-Style does look way better, but the Omega offers much more technical features only missing a V8. Greetings from Germany Stephan

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> > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" > --Groucho Marx--

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> "Steve Whitty" <stev_mazz at optusnet dot com dot au> wrote in message > news:3e3ee2dc$0$7811$[email hidden]... > > Naa, its because they don't get severe penalties for touching the other > car > > like the Supercar drivers do. > > > > Steve > > Which means its ok to smash into other cars?

Whats that line from Days of Thunder. "What he did was rub you. And rubbing, Son, is racing" Steve

> Whats that line from Days of Thunder. "What he did was rub you. And > rubbing, Son, is racing" I thought that line was from VROC <G>

Because the Aussie V8 folks have some WEIRD frickin rules to deal with. You can't pit and satisfy this compulsory tire change under the yellow. Um, excuse me... "Safety Car". And what's with this curb-hopping rule nonsense? Man, the refs were dropping em' like flies in the race I watched Sunday Morning. Weird series rules, but fun to watch. They seem to get into a lot of "Truama" out on those tracks :) Larry "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4Rd%9.149$[email hidden]...

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> This is for Goy! > > Hey man I am watching last years race at the gold coast and many of the > competitors made their compulsory tire change on or about lap 4-5. Why? > Obviously the tires will last the race then why not wait till most of the > others have pitted and use the clear track to your advantage? I must be > missing something in the rules or strategy? > > Seems odd seeing a Falcon ;) > > Mitch > >

Being a former owner/restorer of GTO's (I had four of them - A 65, a 66 and two 67's) and a Goat fanatic (nothing after 67 though, please), I thought I was going to be excited about the new GTO. I'm not really any more for two reasons. 1. I just can't dig the body style, especially the rear quarters around the rear tires. 2. The price. GM is pricing it so only the most well-off will ever be able to afford it. That, IMHO, makes it a car that steals the name, but doesn't do anything to make the heritge proud. A real Goat is affordable horsepower, this ain't no Goat. Larry (Yes I'm a Goat snob) :) "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > hey? Falcons are tops - don't knock em till your tried em > > > > David Corless > > I love the "green eyed monster". > > Do the production Falcons come with v8s? If so I hope Ford follows GM's > lead and brings them over here tot he states. I'd go hunting ricers. lol > > MadDAWG > >

I think the new Mustang as shown at the latest Auto Show is going to breath some serious life back into the Pony... Larry "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Olav Malmin wrote: > > > > Holden's rule, I can't belive it's only a Opel :) Drove a Commodore > > 4.0L V6 200 Hp from Surfers Paradise to Melbourne. Great piece of > > machinery. And it beat the crap out of the similary engined Ford > > Mustang Convertible I rented in the US. Even if the engine was about > > the same size and performance, the US automatic was a real bummer > > compared to the aussie automatic. > > LOL, rented a Mustang myself when I was in the US a couple of years ago, > not a convertible though, and while I enjoyed the overall handling of > the car, it was actually better than expected, the 3.8 V6 (no V8's > available for rental at the time) wasn't the kind of engine you'd expect > in a car like that, and the less said about the Auto box the > better...:-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" > --Groucho Marx--

Larry wrote: > > I think the new Mustang as shown at the latest Auto Show is going to breath > some serious life back into the Pony... Yeah, it loks kinda interesting, but as you pointed out in another post, it all comes down to prize in the end.... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:pKU%9.100735$[email hidden]: > I think the new Mustang as shown at the latest Auto Show is going to > breath some serious life back into the Pony... > > Larry > After 30 years they finally have more horsepower than the (gasp!) Camaro. dave henrie

In article <PIU%9.100725$[email hidden]>, "Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: > >That, IMHO, makes it a car that steals the name, but doesn't do anything to >make the heritge proud. Now that is truly an ironic statement. Don McCorkle

These days horsepower is so easy to add that it really isn't an issue. The Camaro had more power and look what it got it.....discontinued. MadDAWG

No idea since I have a Mustang. If its anything like the Mustang's its less than thrilling at first, but a converter and shift kit later its a whole nother story. MadDAWG

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> These days horsepower is so easy to add that it really isn't an issue. > The Camaro had more power and look what it got it.....discontinued. > > > MadDAWG > > >

:) my point exactly! :) dave henrie ps My wife loves a TV show set in NYC about Firemen/Policemen/& paramedics called Third Watch. Here favorite character is a short tightly-strung cop named Bosco. Well we got to see his car last year and I immeadiately gave her grief. It was the HUGE BOAT MACH ONE from 1971(I think) the Pug ugly huge Stang that killed the marque. If he's only gone back another year or so and got a '69 Boss 302 Fastback.... So now everytime I need to needle my wife I bring up Bosco's boat.(then I duck) dave henrie

> > Which means its ok to smash into other cars? > > Whats that line from Days of Thunder. "What he did was rub you. And > rubbing, Son, is racing" good call, I'll pay that David Corless

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5CU%9.100670$[email hidden]... > Because the Aussie V8 folks have some WEIRD frickin rules to deal with. > > You can't pit and satisfy this compulsory tire change under the yellow.Um,

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> excuse me... "Safety Car". > > And what's with this curb-hopping rule nonsense? Man, the refs were > dropping em' like flies in the race I watched Sunday Morning. > > Weird series rules, but fun to watch. > > They seem to get into a lot of "Truama" out on those tracks :) > > Larry

The curb hopping rules were due to the indycar organisers having a whine about the V8s ruining the track or something - they do it every year, but no-one really knows why David Corless

"David Corless" <david.corless.no.spam[@]utseduau> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Px90a.319$[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5CU%9.100670$[email hidden]... > > Because the Aussie V8 folks have some WEIRD frickin rules to deal with. > > > > You can't pit and satisfy this compulsory tire change under the yellow. > Um, > > excuse me... "Safety Car". > > > > And what's with this curb-hopping rule nonsense? Man, the refs were > > dropping em' like flies in the race I watched Sunday Morning. > > > > Weird series rules, but fun to watch. > > > > They seem to get into a lot of "Truama" out on those tracks :) > > > > Larry > > The curb hopping rules were due to the indycar organisers having a whine > about the V8s ruining the track or something - they do it every year, but > no-one really knows why

Talking about Surfer�s? Can you explain curb hopping, don�t understand that! Stephan > > David Corless > >

I'll take a Mustang II over a 71-73 body style. The only real bright sport was the 351 C. I'll just take mine in a 73 Grand Sport Torino. Still kicking myself over that one. :( The 70 MACh 1s are my favorite with the Boss 429 and Boss 302 runner ups. I'd love to get my hands on one of the new MAChs as well. MadDAWG

So I take it that rule was just for Surfer's then? I have watched alot of the races lately and I don't remember any curb rules, but I missed the Surfer's race. MadDAWG

"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[email hidden]... > So I take it that rule was just for Surfer's then? I have watched alot of > the races lately and I don't remember any curb rules, but I missed the > Surfer's race. I saw the race at Surfer�s in TV and they attacked the curbs like hell. Couldn�t see any rules there. > MadDAWG >Greets Stephan

Yep. If it's a $35,000 Mustang, then it wasn't worth the effort. Larry "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Larry wrote: > > > > I think the new Mustang as shown at the latest Auto Show is going tobreath

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> > some serious life back into the Pony... > > Yeah, it loks kinda interesting, but as you pointed out in another post, > it all comes down to prize in the end.... > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--

I think in the end it was the Insurance Companies that killed the F-Car. I didn't like the direction they had taken anyway. I had an '87 Trans Am GTA back when I was in the Navy. Even did a little stadium racing with it (I think it was the SCCA that sponsored it). THAT was the type of F-Body FireBird I liked, not the rounded off, bug-eyed thing that it became. I just wish back then the 350 (5.7 Litre) had more umph. The '87 GTA was the first year for it. The racing at the Stadium in San Diego was fun. All that was required was a Helmet, a second throttle-return spring and your entry fee :) Larry "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> These days horsepower is so easy to add that it really isn't an issue. The > Camaro had more power and look what it got it.....discontinued. > > > MadDAWG > >

Don't feel bad. When I joined the Navy in 1979, I sold my Mariner-Turquoise '67 GTO in fine condition because the recruiter said "You won't need a car. We'll take you wherever you need to go". Asshole... I cringe when I think of what that car is worth today, espeically since it was one of the VERY rare specimines that had factory 4-piston front disc brakes. I was told at a later date that only 252 '67's shipped with that option package. I must go cry now :( Larry "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'll take a Mustang II over a 71-73 body style. The only real bright sport > was the 351 C. I'll just take mine in a 73 Grand Sport Torino. Still > kicking myself over that one. :( The 70 MACh 1s are my favorite with the > Boss 429 and Boss 302 runner ups. I'd love to get my hands on one of thenew > MAChs as well. > > MadDAWG > >

Apparantly, by Aussie V8 Rule standards, it means allowing the rubber of your tire to touch the curb in any way, shape or form. And apparantly it also depends on which driver and team you are... They were completely inconsistent in who and how they were busting during that race. Larry "Stephan Paskert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b1ral8$na1$05$[email hidden]... > "David Corless" <david.corless.no.spam[@]utseduau> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:Px90a.319$[email hidden]... > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:5CU%9.100670$[email hidden]... > > > Because the Aussie V8 folks have some WEIRD frickin rules to dealwith. > > > > > > You can't pit and satisfy this compulsory tire change under theyellow.

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> > Um, > > > excuse me... "Safety Car". > > > > > > And what's with this curb-hopping rule nonsense? Man, the refs were > > > dropping em' like flies in the race I watched Sunday Morning. > > > > > > Weird series rules, but fun to watch. > > > > > > They seem to get into a lot of "Truama" out on those tracks :) > > > > > > Larry > > > > The curb hopping rules were due to the indycar organisers having a whine > > about the V8s ruining the track or something - they do it every year,

but > > no-one really knows why > > Talking about Surfer�s? Can you explain curb hopping, don�t understandthat!

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> > Stephan > > > > > David Corless > > > > > >

The race at Queensland (I think that's what they called it) that Speed showed this weekend they were busting drivers like crazy for it. It was the first of two races they aired. I believe it was round 11. The second race, whatever it is, is on the UTV and I'll get around to it eventually. I swear, I thought they were gonna set up a police check-point at one time :) Larry "Stephan Paskert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b1rl4n$9iq$06$[email hidden]... > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:[email hidden]... > > So I take it that rule was just for Surfer's then? I have watched alotof

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> > the races lately and I don't remember any curb rules, but I missed the > > Surfer's race. > > I saw the race at Surfer�s in TV and they attacked the curbs like hell. > Couldn�t see any rules there. > > > MadDAWG > > > Greets > Stephan > >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:kcd0a.108348$[email hidden]... > The race at Queensland (I think that's what they called it) that Speed > showed this weekend they were busting drivers like crazy for it. I�ve seen every race of the 2002-season, but can�t remember that. Seems that the broadcasting channel Motors TV has cut those scenes. > It was the first of two races they aired. I believe it was round 11. The > second race, whatever it is, is on the UTV and I'll get around to it > eventually. > > I swear, I thought they were gonna set up a police check-point at one time > :):) > Larry Bye Stephan

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> "Stephan Paskert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b1rl4n$9iq$06$[email hidden]... > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > > news:[email hidden]... > > > So I take it that rule was just for Surfer's then? I have watched alot > of > > > the races lately and I don't remember any curb rules, but I missed the > > > Surfer's race. > > > > I saw the race at Surfer�s in TV and they attacked the curbs like hell. > > Couldn�t see any rules there. > > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > Greets > > Stephan > > > > > >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:b3d0a.108299$[email hidden]...

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> Apparantly, by Aussie V8 Rule standards, it means allowing the rubber of > your tire to touch the curb in any way, shape or form. > > And apparantly it also depends on which driver and team you are... > > They were completely inconsistent in who and how they were busting during > that race.

Thanks for the info. Those rules are really nonsens. Too many rules can destroy racing, especially if you can�t control them properly as it is in this case. > Larry Greetings from Germany Stephan > "Stephan Paskert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b1ral8$na1$05$[email hidden]... > > "David Corless" <david.corless.no.spam[@]utseduau> schrieb imNewsbeitrag

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> > news:Px90a.319$[email hidden]... > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:5CU%9.100670$[email hidden]... > > > > Because the Aussie V8 folks have some WEIRD frickin rules to deal > with. > > > > > > > > You can't pit and satisfy this compulsory tire change under the > yellow. > > > Um, > > > > excuse me... "Safety Car". > > > > > > > > And what's with this curb-hopping rule nonsense? Man, the refs were > > > > dropping em' like flies in the race I watched Sunday Morning. > > > > > > > > Weird series rules, but fun to watch. > > > > > > > > They seem to get into a lot of "Truama" out on those tracks :) > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > The curb hopping rules were due to the indycar organisers having a

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> > > about the V8s ruining the track or something - they do it every year, > but > > > no-one really knows why > > > > Talking about Surfer�s? Can you explain curb hopping, don�t understand > that! > > > > Stephan > > > > > > > > David Corless > > > > > > > > > > > >

On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 18:49:28 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Don't feel bad. When I joined the Navy in 1979, I sold my Mariner-Turquoise >'67 GTO in fine condition because the recruiter said "You won't need a car. >We'll take you wherever you need to go". Asshole... > >I cringe when I think of what that car is worth today, espeically since it >was one of the VERY rare specimines that had factory 4-piston front disc >brakes. I was told at a later date that only 252 '67's shipped with that >option package. > >I must go cry now :( > >Larry >

Did I ever tell you guys that my father worked at the local Ford plant in the late '60s? I believe Peru was one of the fe countries outside the US where the Mustang was assembled. Heck, we even got some Shelbies... Well, as the plant was going to close down (after General Velasco's takeover and 'nationalization' of several companies), they were offering the employees the Mustangs at a discounted price. And my father didn't buy one because he didn't like that car, he thought 'the engine was too powerful for that body'. He should have never told me the story, when I found out several years later you can guess what my reaction was. Damn, he likes cars that look 'classy', he bought a new Citroen GSA Club back in 1982 and the car broke down and has been in the garage for the past 10-15 years... -- __________ ____---____ Marco Antonio Checa Funcke \_________D /-/---_----' Santiago de Surco, Lima, Peru _H__/_/ http://machf.tripod.com '-_____|( remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

My but kicking is much more recent than that, only about 6 months ago. I had a guy that wanted to trade me a 73 Grand Sport with 21,000 original miles for my 95 Mustang. The damn thing looked like it just came off the line. He even had the original tires! I didn't go for it because I thought I was gonna stay in the drag racing thing for a while longer and didn't want to waste the Torino on that. Well now I have bought a house and decided to get out of the drag racing (damn games have spoiled me) and a nice mint condition classic would have been real nice for my new garage. :( MadDAWG

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5Wc0a.108255$[email hidden]... > Yep. If it's a $35,000 Mustang, then it wasn't worth the effort. > > Larry I saw a very interesting article back when the Mustangs made the big change in 94. They backed out the cost of the government required emissions and safety equipment. Then took that price and figured the inflation rates from 64 to 94 and guess what they found. The 94 was actually cheaper than the 64. It was pretty eye opening. MadDAWG

I saw one, New Zeeland I think, where one car knocked the tire stack off one of the corners. Everyone started blowing left front tires after that. They ended up finding that there was a spike used to hold down those tires that was sticking up and puncturing the tires. They took a sledge hammer and knocked it out so they couldn't be too worried about curb hopping. MadDAWG

"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[email hidden]... > I saw one, New Zeeland I think, where one car knocked the tire stack offone > of the corners. Everyone started blowing left front tires after that. They > ended up finding that there was a spike used to hold down those tires that > was sticking up and puncturing the tires. They took a sledge hammer and > knocked it out so they couldn't be too worried about curb hopping. Ah, yes, now I remember. You are right. > MadDAWG >Stephan