RASCAR: First Race

The last I heard, the first race was going to be this Saturday at noon (the 8th). Is this still the game plan? Are we going to have a 'test' period tomorrow night so we can make sure everyone can log in ok? Finally (and I bring this up not desiring to create another ugly thread) would we be better off using the Jasper setups instead of the fast setups? Larry

I think there needs to be a mix of which setups to use. The Jasper setup at daytona sucks, serious push. At MIS, in the demo, the Jasper setup was better on long runs. At Lowes, both of them are difficult, but the Jasper setup is almost undriveable. We may even have to consider slower setups. -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Wux0a.644$[email hidden]... The last I heard, the first race was going to be this Saturday at noon (the 8th). Is this still the game plan? Are we going to have a 'test' period tomorrow night so we can make sure everyone can log in ok? Finally (and I bring this up not desiring to create another ugly thread) would we be better off using the Jasper setups instead of the fast setups? Larry

had the same experience with the jasper setup at lowe's. Went offline and practiced with it about 45 min. but closest i could come to my best time with the jasper setup was about .4 seconds slower. and even after practicing with it, if I didn't do everything just right, I still spun out. don't much like it. "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ofy0a.7369$[email hidden]... I think there needs to be a mix of which setups to use. The Jasper setup at daytona sucks, serious push. At MIS, in the demo, the Jasper setup was better on long runs. At Lowes, both of them are difficult, but the Jasper setup is almost undriveable. We may even have to consider slower setups. -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Wux0a.644$[email hidden]... The last I heard, the first race was going to be this Saturday at noon (the 8th). Is this still the game plan? Are we going to have a 'test' period tomorrow night so we can make sure everyone can log in ok? Finally (and I bring this up not desiring to create another ugly thread) would we be better off using the Jasper setups instead of the fast setups? Larry

This is the problem with fixed setup racing. What is good for one person is not for another. For me the fast setups are waaaaaaaaay to loose and are a pretty much assured to end up with a flat rear end from backing it into the wall. For me the Jasper sets are much better. Other people find the Jasper setups way to tight. Not that I run RASCAR myself, but I wouldn't even consider a fixed league with the fast setups. To bad there wasn't an option to force one of the original game setups. MadDAWG

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> This is the problem with fixed setup racing. What is good for one person is > not for another. For me the fast setups are waaaaaaaaay to loose and are a > pretty much assured to end up with a flat rear end from backing it into the > wall. For me the Jasper sets are much better. Other people find the Jasper > setups way to tight. Not that I run RASCAR myself, but I wouldn't even > consider a fixed league with the fast setups. To bad there wasn't an option > to force one of the original game setups.

Sad you feel that way. RASCAR is about having fun saturday evenings, not spending the whole week prior finding that extra .1 second. :) -- Olav Malmin remove .spam when replying

> Sad you feel that way. RASCAR is about having fun saturday evenings, > not spending the whole week prior finding that extra .1 second. :) > > -- > Olav Malmin I think you might have taken it wrong. I'd do a fixed setup league in a heart beat if it was the Jasper setups, just not the fast setup. For me I'd have to spend all week practicing with the fast setup just so I wouldn't take out half the field, and there is no fun in that. MadDAWG

So what's the general concensus... Is the JASPER the better starting point, or is the FAST setup the better starting point? Larry "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3PA0a.2086$rY3.170@FE10... had the same experience with the jasper setup at lowe's. Went offline and practiced with it about 45 min. but closest i could come to my best time with the jasper setup was about .4 seconds slower. and even after practicing with it, if I didn't do everything just right, I still spun out. don't much like it. "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ofy0a.7369$[email hidden]... I think there needs to be a mix of which setups to use. The Jasper setup at daytona sucks, serious push. At MIS, in the demo, the Jasper setup was better on long runs. At Lowes, both of them are difficult, but the Jasper setup is almost undriveable. We may even have to consider slower setups. -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Wux0a.644$[email hidden]... The last I heard, the first race was going to be this Saturday at noon (the 8th). Is this still the game plan? Are we going to have a 'test' period tomorrow night so we can make sure everyone can log in ok? Finally (and I bring this up not desiring to create another ugly thread) would we be better off using the Jasper setups instead of the fast setups? Larry

The host can force any setup on his/her system they want. It's not limited to included setups. Larry "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > This is the problem with fixed setup racing. What is good for one personis > not for another. For me the fast setups are waaaaaaaaay to loose and are a > pretty much assured to end up with a flat rear end from backing it intothe > wall. For me the Jasper sets are much better. Other people find the Jasper > setups way to tight. Not that I run RASCAR myself, but I wouldn't even > consider a fixed league with the fast setups. To bad there wasn't anoption > to force one of the original game setups. > > MadDAWG > >

Which is why I like what we do. I SUCK at setups :) Larry "Olav Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> writes: > Sad you feel that way. RASCAR is about having fun saturday evenings, > not spending the whole week prior finding that extra .1 second. :) > > -- > Olav Malmin > remove .spam when replying

"Larry" <[email hidden]> writes: > Which is why I like what we do. I SUCK at setups :) Yeah, me too. In the GPL league I'm in, I just use some old Lotus setups that Doug Arnao made, set the proper fuel level and race :) It's not the technical challenge, it's more availiable hours better used on the track practicing driving skills.

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> Larry > > "Olav Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > Sad you feel that way. RASCAR is about having fun saturday evenings, > > not spending the whole week prior finding that extra .1 second. :) > > > > -- > > Olav Malmin > > remove .spam when replying > >

-- Olav Malmin remove .spam when replying

Uh, Fast setup, and Jasper setup, as well as the other two, Are original game setups. :) -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... This is the problem with fixed setup racing. What is good for one person is not for another. For me the fast setups are waaaaaaaaay to loose and are a pretty much assured to end up with a flat rear end from backing it into the wall. For me the Jasper sets are much better. Other people find the Jasper setups way to tight. Not that I run RASCAR myself, but I wouldn't even consider a fixed league with the fast setups. To bad there wasn't an option to force one of the original game setups. MadDAWG

I ran a pickup race at Atlanta with the Fixed setup and it really is UN_DRIVEABLE. Beyond loose. The beta testers were sleeping on this one for sure... I tried Charlotte for a sec and its about the same.. RASCAR, we need to think about NOT using the fixed setup that shipped with the game... Mitch MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > This is the problem with fixed setup racing. What is good for one personis > not for another. For me the fast setups are waaaaaaaaay to loose and are a > pretty much assured to end up with a flat rear end from backing it intothe > wall. For me the Jasper sets are much better. Other people find the Jasper > setups way to tight. Not that I run RASCAR myself, but I wouldn't even > consider a fixed league with the fast setups. To bad there wasn't anoption > to force one of the original game setups. > > MadDAWG > >

I had no problem with the fast setup at Atlanta. Felt great. What kind of controller do you use Mitch? I'm sure the way some of these setups feel to people is related to the type of controller they use. Maybe adjusting the steering lock would help a lot. David G Fisher "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CCT0a.1531$[email hidden]... > I ran a pickup race at Atlanta with the Fixed setup and it really is > UN_DRIVEABLE. Beyond loose. The beta testers were sleeping on this onefor

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> sure... I tried Charlotte for a sec and its about the same.. > > RASCAR, we need to think about NOT using the fixed setup that shipped with > the game... > > Mitch > > MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > This is the problem with fixed setup racing. What is good for one person > is > > not for another. For me the fast setups are waaaaaaaaay to loose and are

a > > pretty much assured to end up with a flat rear end from backing it into > the > > wall. For me the Jasper sets are much better. Other people find theJasper

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> > setups way to tight. Not that I run RASCAR myself, but I wouldn't even > > consider a fixed league with the fast setups. To bad there wasn't an > option > > to force one of the original game setups. > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > >

If we have a practice race tomorrow, it should be at Daytona so we can practice for next weeks first race. Last years RASCAR SS races were not very good. David G Fisher "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Wux0a.644$[email hidden]... > The last I heard, the first race was going to be this Saturday at noon(the

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> 8th). > > Is this still the game plan? > > Are we going to have a 'test' period tomorrow night so we can make sure > everyone can log in ok? > > Finally (and I bring this up not desiring to create another ugly thread) > would we be better off using the Jasper setups instead of the fast setups? > > Larry > >

Have yo utried adjusting the steering lock so they car isn't so sensitive to steering input? David G Fisher "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > This is the problem with fixed setup racing. What is good for one personis > not for another. For me the fast setups are waaaaaaaaay to loose and are a > pretty much assured to end up with a flat rear end from backing it intothe > wall. For me the Jasper sets are much better. Other people find the Jasper > setups way to tight. Not that I run RASCAR myself, but I wouldn't even > consider a fixed league with the fast setups. To bad there wasn't anoption > to force one of the original game setups. > > MadDAWG > >

Would be awful nice if you chaps could wait for us Europeans to get hold of N2003 before you start racing... Now, unofficial practice races on the other hand, is something completely different :-) -- ed_ "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Wux0a.644$[email hidden]... > The last I heard, the first race was going to be this Saturday at noon (the > 8th). > > Is this still the game plan? > > Are we going to have a 'test' period tomorrow night so we can make sure > everyone can log in ok? > > Finally (and I bring this up not desiring to create another ugly thread) > would we be better off using the Jasper setups instead of the fast setups? > > Larry > >

I'm for that. I'd like the first race at Daytona to be a full one instead of a throw away. David G Fisher "Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message news:6JU0a.20137$[email hidden]... > Would be awful nice if you chaps could wait for us Europeans to get holdof

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> N2003 before you start racing... > > Now, unofficial practice races on the other hand, is something completely > different :-) > > -- > ed_ > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Wux0a.644$[email hidden]... > > The last I heard, the first race was going to be this Saturday at noon > (the > > 8th). > > > > Is this still the game plan? > > > > Are we going to have a 'test' period tomorrow night so we can make sure > > everyone can log in ok? > > > > Finally (and I bring this up not desiring to create another ugly thread) > > would we be better off using the Jasper setups instead of the fast

setups? > > > > Larry > > > > > >

This was the server side fixed Atl setup (Fast?). All in the race bailed because no one could turn more than a couple laps without spinning out in both t1-2 and t3-4. I did try to reduce the lock but it didnt help. I use the momo racing btw. I wonder if the admin changed to default setups? I havent tried offline yet but will when I get home. Mitch "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I had no problem with the fast setup at Atlanta. Felt great. What kind of > controller do you use Mitch? I'm sure the way some of these setups feel to > people is related to the type of controller they use. Maybe adjusting the > steering lock would help a lot. > > David G Fisher > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:CCT0a.1531$[email hidden]... > > I ran a pickup race at Atlanta with the Fixed setup and it really is > > UN_DRIVEABLE. Beyond loose. The beta testers were sleeping on this one > for > > sure... I tried Charlotte for a sec and its about the same.. > > > > RASCAR, we need to think about NOT using the fixed setup that shipped

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> > the game... > > > > Mitch > > > > MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > This is the problem with fixed setup racing. What is good for one

person > > is > > > not for another. For me the fast setups are waaaaaaaaay to loose andare > a > > > pretty much assured to end up with a flat rear end from backing itinto

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> > the > > > wall. For me the Jasper sets are much better. Other people find the > Jasper > > > setups way to tight. Not that I run RASCAR myself, but I wouldn't even > > > consider a fixed league with the fast setups. To bad there wasn't an > > option > > > to force one of the original game setups. > > > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > > > > > > > >

No trouble with Atlanta at all actually. He probably did have the default setup loaded, whatever that is. I just ran a few laps with both the fast and jasper setups, and the best with each were 29.4's. I uploaded the replays here http://mywebpages.comcast.net/davegf/ if you want to take a look. Car holds the line nice and tight with both. I tried the easy setup, and didn't have any trouble with that either. I'm using the Ferrari ff wheel. David G Fisher "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:TDW0a.1565$[email hidden]... > This was the server side fixed Atl setup (Fast?). All in the race bailed > because no one could turn more than a couple laps without spinning out in > both t1-2 and t3-4. I did try to reduce the lock but it didnt help. Iuse

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> the momo racing btw. I wonder if the admin changed to default setups? I > havent tried offline yet but will when I get home. > > Mitch > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I had no problem with the fast setup at Atlanta. Felt great. What kind

of > > controller do you use Mitch? I'm sure the way some of these setups feelto > > people is related to the type of controller they use. Maybe adjustingthe

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> > steering lock would help a lot. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:CCT0a.1531$[email hidden]... > > > I ran a pickup race at Atlanta with the Fixed setup and it really is > > > UN_DRIVEABLE. Beyond loose. The beta testers were sleeping on this

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> > for > > > sure... I tried Charlotte for a sec and its about the same.. > > > > > > RASCAR, we need to think about NOT using the fixed setup that shipped > with > > > the game... > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > This is the problem with fixed setup racing. What is good for one > person > > > is > > > > not for another. For me the fast setups are waaaaaaaaay to loose and > are > > a > > > > pretty much assured to end up with a flat rear end from backing it > into > > > the > > > > wall. For me the Jasper sets are much better. Other people find the > > Jasper > > > > setups way to tight. Not that I run RASCAR myself, but I wouldn't

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> > > > consider a fixed league with the fast setups. To bad there wasn't an > > > option > > > > to force one of the original game setups. > > > > > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >