OT: AthlonXP; Epox BIOS; New CPU: No Luck! 8-(

Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing the new CPU. So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also support the XP2100 T'bred B? I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded with installing the new CPU. FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon 8500LE videocard. Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start overclocking! Thanks! Bert

Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing the new CPU. So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also support the XP2100 T'bred B? I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded with installing the new CPU. FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon 8500LE videocard. Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start overclocking! Thanks! Bert

I would guess your bios flash went correctly, however now that it's been flashed you may have to go back into the bios and adjust the settings. Holler at me if that wasn't the problem or check out the EPOX NG. "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > the new CPU. > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded > with installing the new CPU. > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > 8500LE videocard. > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > overclocking! > > Thanks! > Bert > > > > >

I can't help with all of your questions but... I have an 8KHA+ with the 11/6/02 bios running an XP1800 chip. No problems. Supposedly this board can handle up to XP2400 with the latest bios. Wayne Hutchison "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > the new CPU. > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded > with installing the new CPU. > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > 8500LE videocard. > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > overclocking! > > Thanks! > Bert > > > > >

Tom, I agree that the actual BIOS flashing procedure went like it was supposed to. After flashing the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version the first time, I tweaked all kinds of settings in the CMOS. I even called a friend of mine with the same system (un-flashed) and we reviewed the settings line-by-line and came up empty. I'd love to discover the "magic bullet" that makes everything fall into place. Basically the only settings I changed was to disable the onboard sound (I have an SB Live) and then activate the "optimal" settings. (Second or third choice in the right hand column of the CMOS). Those procedures are exactly what worked in going back to the old BIOS, so I figured that's what's needed to get the new BIOS to work. Luckily, I was able to restore my original BIOS, so that's where I am now. Do you know of any Epox-specific resource where I can follow-up on these questions? Unfortunately my ISP's news server (crappy AT&T Broadband) doesn't offer an Epox newsgroup. Thanks again, Bert Tom osbon wrote:

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> I would guess your bios flash went correctly, however now that it's been > flashed you may have to go back into the bios and adjust the settings. > Holler at me if that wasn't the problem or check out the EPOX NG. > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > the new CPU. > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > overclocking! > > > > Thanks! > > Bert > > > > > > > > > >

Tom, I agree that the actual BIOS flashing procedure went like it was supposed to. After flashing the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version the first time, I tweaked all kinds of settings in the CMOS. I even called a friend of mine with the same system (un-flashed) and we reviewed the settings line-by-line and came up empty. I'd love to discover the "magic bullet" that makes everything fall into place. Basically the only settings I changed was to disable the onboard sound (I have an SB Live) and then activate the "optimal" settings. (Second or third choice in the right hand column of the CMOS). Those procedures are exactly what worked in going back to the old BIOS, so I figured that's what's needed to get the new BIOS to work. Luckily, I was able to restore my original BIOS, so that's where I am now. Do you know of any Epox-specific resource where I can follow-up on these questions? Unfortunately my ISP's news server (crappy AT&T Broadband) doesn't offer an Epox newsgroup. Thanks again, Bert

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> I would guess your bios flash went correctly, however now that it's been > flashed you may have to go back into the bios and adjust the settings. > Holler at me if that wasn't the problem or check out the EPOX NG. > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > the new CPU. > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded > > with installing the new CPU. > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > 8500LE videocard. > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > overclocking! > > Thanks! > > Bert

Hi Wayne, Actually, according to the Epox website, this board can go up to the XP2600 (266 FSB version), but you have to have the latest BIOS (and that's the catch...) That's exactly why I was flashing my BIOS. Glad to hear that the 11/6/02 is supposed to work with earlier CPU's. Do you know if your 1800 is a Palomino or is it a T'bred? If not, approximately how old is it? Did you have to upgrade the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version or did that already come with your mobo? Finally, do you know of any good Epox-specific resources to answer some of these questions? My ISP doesn't provide access to the Epox newsgroup. 8-( Thanks for your help! Bert Wayne Hutchison wrote:

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> I can't help with all of your questions but... I have an 8KHA+ with the > 11/6/02 bios running an XP1800 chip. No problems. Supposedly this board can > handle up to XP2400 with the latest bios. > > Wayne Hutchison > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > the new CPU. > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > overclocking! > > > > Thanks! > > Bert > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Wayne, Actually, according to the Epox website, this board can go up to the XP2600 (266 FSB version), but you have to have the latest BIOS (and that's the catch...) That's exactly why I was flashing my BIOS. Glad to hear that the 11/6/02 is supposed to work with earlier CPU's. Do you know if your 1800 is a Palomino or is it a T'bred? If not, approximately how old is it? Did you have to upgrade the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version or did that already come with your mobo? Finally, do you know of any good Epox-specific resources to answer some of these questions? My ISP doesn't provide access to the Epox newsgroup. 8-( Thanks for your help! Bert

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> I can't help with all of your questions but... I have an 8KHA+ with the > 11/6/02 bios running an XP1800 chip. No problems. Supposedly this board can > handle up to XP2400 with the latest bios. > Wayne Hutchison > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > the new CPU. > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded > > with installing the new CPU. > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > 8500LE videocard. > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > overclocking! > > Thanks! > > Bert

could it be your power supply? "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi Wayne, > > Actually, according to the Epox website, this board can go up to theXP2600 > (266 FSB version), but you have to have the latest BIOS (and that's the > catch...) > > That's exactly why I was flashing my BIOS. Glad to hear that the 11/6/02is > supposed to work with earlier CPU's. Do you know if your 1800 is aPalomino or > is it a T'bred? If not, approximately how old is it? Did you have toupgrade > the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version or did that already come with your mobo? > > Finally, do you know of any good Epox-specific resources to answer some of > these questions? My ISP doesn't provide access to the Epox newsgroup.8-(

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> > Thanks for your help! > > Bert > > > > > Wayne Hutchison wrote: > > > I can't help with all of your questions but... I have an 8KHA+ with the > > 11/6/02 bios running an XP1800 chip. No problems. Supposedly this board

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> > handle up to XP2400 with the latest bios. > > > > Wayne Hutchison > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same

system > > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), Ineed

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> > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my

original > > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > > the new CPU. > > > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where didyou > > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, andboth > > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but onlywith > > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have notproceeded

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> > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > > overclocking! > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I agree. After a flash, you need to clear out the BIOS settings (there should be a button for setting everything to default or performance default) and then go through them and re-set them as you like. Larry "Tom osbon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Lzh1a.7630$[email hidden]...

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> I would guess your bios flash went correctly, however now that it's been > flashed you may have to go back into the bios and adjust the settings. > Holler at me if that wasn't the problem or check out the EPOX NG. > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > the new CPU. > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > overclocking! > > > > Thanks! > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > >

I bought my motherboard and CPU back in December of 2001 if that helps. The motherboard is rev 2.0. I believe the CPU is a "Palomino" core, not a "Thoroughbred", since the Thoroughbred wasn't available until mid-2002. I normally upgrade bios's, driver's, etc. as they become available just in case they "fix" some problem I didn't realise I had :) One decent resource is http://www.amdforums.com/ They have an Epox forum with lots of activity Wayne "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi Wayne, > > Actually, according to the Epox website, this board can go up to theXP2600 > (266 FSB version), but you have to have the latest BIOS (and that's the > catch...) > > That's exactly why I was flashing my BIOS. Glad to hear that the 11/6/02is > supposed to work with earlier CPU's. Do you know if your 1800 is aPalomino or > is it a T'bred? If not, approximately how old is it? Did you have toupgrade > the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version or did that already come with your mobo? > > Finally, do you know of any good Epox-specific resources to answer some of > these questions? My ISP doesn't provide access to the Epox newsgroup.8-(

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> > Thanks for your help! > > Bert > > > > > Wayne Hutchison wrote: > > > I can't help with all of your questions but... I have an 8KHA+ with the > > 11/6/02 bios running an XP1800 chip. No problems. Supposedly this board

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> > handle up to XP2400 with the latest bios. > > > > Wayne Hutchison > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same

system > > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), Ineed

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> > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my

original > > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > > the new CPU. > > > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where didyou > > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, andboth > > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but onlywith > > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have notproceeded

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> > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > > overclocking! > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Here's something I found on the AMDMB site for someone that was having a similar problem. This was posted by an Epox Tech: 1) Power off 2) Move the CLEAR CMOS jumper to CLEAR for 10 seconds. 3) move the jumper back. 4) Check the CPU die, ensure it was not cracked or chipped in any way by the heatsink installation. 5) Reinstall the heatsink/fan. 6) Press and hold the INSERT KEY while applying power. 7) Release INSERT if the screen shows. 8) Enter the BIOS and load the optimized defaults. 9) Save and exit. 10) Retest. Wayne "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi Wayne, > > Actually, according to the Epox website, this board can go up to theXP2600 > (266 FSB version), but you have to have the latest BIOS (and that's the > catch...) > > That's exactly why I was flashing my BIOS. Glad to hear that the 11/6/02is > supposed to work with earlier CPU's. Do you know if your 1800 is aPalomino or > is it a T'bred? If not, approximately how old is it? Did you have toupgrade > the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version or did that already come with your mobo? > > Finally, do you know of any good Epox-specific resources to answer some of > these questions? My ISP doesn't provide access to the Epox newsgroup.8-(

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> > Thanks for your help! > > Bert > > > > > Wayne Hutchison wrote: > > > I can't help with all of your questions but... I have an 8KHA+ with the > > 11/6/02 bios running an XP1800 chip. No problems. Supposedly this board

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> > handle up to XP2400 with the latest bios. > > > > Wayne Hutchison > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same

system > > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), Ineed

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> > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my

original > > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > > the new CPU. > > > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where didyou > > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, andboth > > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but onlywith > > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have notproceeded

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> > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > > overclocking! > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks, Wayne. I haven't come across that procedure before. Got a few questions though.... 1. This procedure is meant to be done after completing the BIOS flashing routine, right? (I know....stupid question...but I want to make sure because I successfulyy restored my original BIOS. My PC is again running fine at the moment with the original BIOS, but also with the original CPU....) 2. Where exactly is the CLEAR CMOS jumper? Would simply removing the battery for a minute or two accomplish the same thing? 3. In Step 7, you say "if the screen shows". You don't mean a Windows screen, do you? I assume you mean the screen where you can hit DELETE to enter the BIOS, right? If you can clear up those three points, I will give this a shot. Thanks a lot! Bert Wayne Hutchison wrote:

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> Here's something I found on the AMDMB site for someone that was having a > similar problem. This was posted by an Epox Tech: > > 1) Power off > 2) Move the CLEAR CMOS jumper to CLEAR for 10 seconds. > 3) move the jumper back. > 4) Check the CPU die, ensure it was not cracked or chipped in any way by the > heatsink installation. > 5) Reinstall the heatsink/fan. > 6) Press and hold the INSERT KEY while applying power. > 7) Release INSERT if the screen shows. > 8) Enter the BIOS and load the optimized defaults. > 9) Save and exit. > 10) Retest. > > Wayne > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi Wayne, > > > > Actually, according to the Epox website, this board can go up to the > XP2600 > > (266 FSB version), but you have to have the latest BIOS (and that's the > > catch...) > > > > That's exactly why I was flashing my BIOS. Glad to hear that the 11/6/02 > is > > supposed to work with earlier CPU's. Do you know if your 1800 is a > Palomino or > > is it a T'bred? If not, approximately how old is it? Did you have to > upgrade > > the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version or did that already come with your mobo? > > > > Finally, do you know of any good Epox-specific resources to answer some of > > these questions? My ISP doesn't provide access to the Epox newsgroup. > 8-( > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > Wayne Hutchison wrote: > > > > > I can't help with all of your questions but... I have an 8KHA+ with the > > > 11/6/02 bios running an XP1800 chip. No problems. Supposedly this board > can > > > handle up to XP2400 with the latest bios. > > > > > > Wayne Hutchison > > > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same > system > > > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I > need > > > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my > original > > > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > > > the new CPU. > > > > > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did > you > > > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and > both > > > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only > with > > > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not > proceeded > > > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > > > overclocking! > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks, Wayne. I haven't come across that procedure before. Got a few questions though.... 1. This procedure is meant to be done after completing the BIOS flashing routine, right? (I know....stupid question...but I want to make sure because I successfulyy restored my original BIOS. My PC is again running fine at the moment with the original BIOS, but also with the original CPU....) 2. Where exactly is the CLEAR CMOS jumper? Would simply removing the battery for a minute or two accomplish the same thing? 3. In Step 7, you say "if the screen shows". You don't mean a Windows screen, do you? I assume you mean the screen where you can hit DELETE to enter the BIOS, right? If you can clear up those three points, I will give this a shot. Thanks a lot! Bert

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> Here's something I found on the AMDMB site for someone that was having a > similar problem. This was posted by an Epox Tech: > 1) Power off > 2) Move the CLEAR CMOS jumper to CLEAR for 10 seconds. > 3) move the jumper back. > 4) Check the CPU die, ensure it was not cracked or chipped in any way by the > heatsink installation. > 5) Reinstall the heatsink/fan. > 6) Press and hold the INSERT KEY while applying power. > 7) Release INSERT if the screen shows. > 8) Enter the BIOS and load the optimized defaults. > 9) Save and exit. > 10) Retest. > Wayne > > Hi Wayne, > > Actually, according to the Epox website, this board can go up to the > XP2600 > > (266 FSB version), but you have to have the latest BIOS (and that's the > > catch...) > > That's exactly why I was flashing my BIOS. Glad to hear that the 11/6/02 > is > > supposed to work with earlier CPU's. Do you know if your 1800 is a > Palomino or > > is it a T'bred? If not, approximately how old is it? Did you have to > upgrade > > the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version or did that already come with your mobo? > > Finally, do you know of any good Epox-specific resources to answer some of > > these questions? My ISP doesn't provide access to the Epox newsgroup. > 8-( > > Thanks for your help! > > Bert > > > I can't help with all of your questions but... I have an 8KHA+ with the > > > 11/6/02 bios running an XP1800 chip. No problems. Supposedly this board > can > > > handle up to XP2400 with the latest bios. > > > Wayne Hutchison > > > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same > system > > > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I > need > > > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my > original > > > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > > > the new CPU. > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did > you > > > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and > both > > > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only > with > > > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not > proceeded > > > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > > > overclocking! > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bert

1) As far as I can tell, you would do this right after flashing the BIOS. I just copied from AMDMB, but that seems to make sense. 2) The Clear CMOS jumper is right beside the battery. There should be 3 pins. Just move the jumper to the cover pins 2-3 to clear the CMOS. Then move it back. 3) Correct, the "boot" screen, where you can enter the BIOS. Wayne "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Thanks, Wayne. I haven't come across that procedure before. Got a few > questions though.... > > 1. This procedure is meant to be done after completing the BIOS flashing > routine, right? (I know....stupid question...but I want to make surebecause I > successfulyy restored my original BIOS. My PC is again running fine atthe > moment with the original BIOS, but also with the original CPU....) > 2. Where exactly is the CLEAR CMOS jumper? Would simply removing thebattery > for a minute or two accomplish the same thing? > 3. In Step 7, you say "if the screen shows". You don't mean a Windowsscreen, > do you? I assume you mean the screen where you can hit DELETE to enterthe

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> BIOS, right? > > If you can clear up those three points, I will give this a shot. > > Thanks a lot! > Bert > > > > Wayne Hutchison wrote: > > > Here's something I found on the AMDMB site for someone that was having a > > similar problem. This was posted by an Epox Tech: > > > > 1) Power off > > 2) Move the CLEAR CMOS jumper to CLEAR for 10 seconds. > > 3) move the jumper back. > > 4) Check the CPU die, ensure it was not cracked or chipped in any way by

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> > heatsink installation. > > 5) Reinstall the heatsink/fan. > > 6) Press and hold the INSERT KEY while applying power. > > 7) Release INSERT if the screen shows. > > 8) Enter the BIOS and load the optimized defaults. > > 9) Save and exit. > > 10) Retest. > > > > Wayne > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hi Wayne, > > > > > > Actually, according to the Epox website, this board can go up to the > > XP2600 > > > (266 FSB version), but you have to have the latest BIOS (and that's

the > > > catch...) > > > > > > That's exactly why I was flashing my BIOS. Glad to hear that the11/6/02 > > is > > > supposed to work with earlier CPU's. Do you know if your 1800 is a > > Palomino or > > > is it a T'bred? If not, approximately how old is it? Did you have to > > upgrade > > > the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version or did that already come with yourmobo? > > > > > > Finally, do you know of any good Epox-specific resources to answersome of

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> > > these questions? My ISP doesn't provide access to the Epox newsgroup. > > 8-( > > > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne Hutchison wrote: > > > > > > > I can't help with all of your questions but... I have an 8KHA+ with

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> > can > > > > handle up to XP2400 with the latest bios. > > > > > > > > Wayne Hutchison > > > > > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > > > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same > > system > > > > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > > > > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart),

I > > need > > > > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOSdated > > > > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > > > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOSversions > > > > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > > > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I geterror > > > > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just beforethe > > > > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running verylow. > > > > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > > > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > > > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my > > original > > > > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me withinstalling > > > > > the new CPU. > > > > > > > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), alongwith an > > > > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; wheredid > > you > > > > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOSalso > > > > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > > > > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice,and > > both > > > > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be thatthe > > > > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, butonly

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> > with > > > > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not > > proceeded > > > > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > > > > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > > > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > > > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > > > > overclocking! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I'm very interested in this as I have an Epox 8KHA+ (Revision 2) with an XP 2000+ and was thinking of doing what you are doing, which is to upgrade the CPU. The latest CPU guide suggest the 8KHA+ will handle up to an XP2600+ T-bird with the 9/3/02 BIOS. I remember at one point they had a 9/3/02 BIOS that was 'BETA' only, but I too saw that was gone and the 11/6/02 was in its place so I would assume that would be the correct BIOS. You didn't have your motherboard overclocked when you upgraded the BIOS did you? That's the only warning I see on the Epox site. Please keep me updated on how you make out! -- Scott B. Husted "PA-Scott" ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > the new CPU. > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded > with installing the new CPU. > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > 8500LE videocard. > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > overclocking! > > Thanks! > Bert > > > > >

Wayne, Thaks for all the help that you've given me with this so far. I think I'm making progress. I don't know how much of a "BIOS-flashing" expert you are, but perhaps you can help me further. Just tonight (before trying your latest suggestion), I tried flashing to the BIOS dated 6/12/02, at the suggestion of someone on the AMD newsgroup. The short story is that I got the same results....... However, I took a close look at one of the error messages (post-flash) that I get upon boot-up. It appears to refer to my software firewall ("Tiny Personal Firewall"). I had gotten this error message with my other flash attempts as well, but is was "less decipherable than the other messages, so I forgot about it. In fact, the first error message that I get (about System memory being low) always pops up shortly after the Firewall's Splash Screen pops up. Every time, before flashing, I have carefully made sure that the system was not overclocked (not even the videocard), and I uninstalled Goback (because booting throughout amounted to booting thru a DOS shell, which is a no-no when flashing). But I didn't do anything with my firewall...... Do you know whether this could be a factor? If so, would I need to just disable it? Or would I need to totally uninstall it (ala Goback)? I hope that I don't need to unistall it because re-configuring it could be a pain. Any further thoughts on this would be appreciated! Bert Wayne Hutchison wrote:

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> 1) As far as I can tell, you would do this right after flashing the BIOS. I > just copied from AMDMB, but that seems to make sense. > > 2) The Clear CMOS jumper is right beside the battery. There should be 3 > pins. Just move the jumper to the cover pins 2-3 to clear the CMOS. Then > move it back. > > 3) Correct, the "boot" screen, where you can enter the BIOS. > > Wayne > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Thanks, Wayne. I haven't come across that procedure before. Got a few > > questions though.... > > > > 1. This procedure is meant to be done after completing the BIOS flashing > > routine, right? (I know....stupid question...but I want to make sure > because I > > successfulyy restored my original BIOS. My PC is again running fine at > the > > moment with the original BIOS, but also with the original CPU....) > > 2. Where exactly is the CLEAR CMOS jumper? Would simply removing the > battery > > for a minute or two accomplish the same thing? > > 3. In Step 7, you say "if the screen shows". You don't mean a Windows > screen, > > do you? I assume you mean the screen where you can hit DELETE to enter > the > > BIOS, right? > > > > If you can clear up those three points, I will give this a shot. > > > > Thanks a lot! > > Bert > > > > > > > > Wayne Hutchison wrote: > > > > > Here's something I found on the AMDMB site for someone that was having a > > > similar problem. This was posted by an Epox Tech: > > > > > > 1) Power off > > > 2) Move the CLEAR CMOS jumper to CLEAR for 10 seconds. > > > 3) move the jumper back. > > > 4) Check the CPU die, ensure it was not cracked or chipped in any way by > the > > > heatsink installation. > > > 5) Reinstall the heatsink/fan. > > > 6) Press and hold the INSERT KEY while applying power. > > > 7) Release INSERT if the screen shows. > > > 8) Enter the BIOS and load the optimized defaults. > > > 9) Save and exit. > > > 10) Retest. > > > > > > Wayne > > > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Hi Wayne, > > > > > > > > Actually, according to the Epox website, this board can go up to the > > > XP2600 > > > > (266 FSB version), but you have to have the latest BIOS (and that's > the > > > > catch...) > > > > > > > > That's exactly why I was flashing my BIOS. Glad to hear that the > 11/6/02 > > > is > > > > supposed to work with earlier CPU's. Do you know if your 1800 is a > > > Palomino or > > > > is it a T'bred? If not, approximately how old is it? Did you have to > > > upgrade > > > > the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version or did that already come with your > mobo? > > > > > > > > Finally, do you know of any good Epox-specific resources to answer > some of > > > > these questions? My ISP doesn't provide access to the Epox newsgroup. > > > 8-( > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wayne Hutchison wrote: > > > > > > > > > I can't help with all of your questions but... I have an 8KHA+ with > the > > > > > 11/6/02 bios running an XP1800 chip. No problems. Supposedly this > board > > > can > > > > > handle up to XP2400 with the latest bios. > > > > > > > > > > Wayne Hutchison > > > > > > > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > > > > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same > > > system > > > > > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > > > > > > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), > I > > > need > > > > > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS > dated > > > > > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > > > > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS > versions > > > > > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > > > > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get > error > > > > > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before > the > > > > > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very > low. > > > > > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > > > > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > > > > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my > > > original > > > > > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with > installing > > > > > > the new CPU. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along > with an > > > > > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where > did > > > you > > > > > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS > also > > > > > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > > > > > > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, > and > > > both > > > > > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that > the > > > > > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but > only > > > with > > > > > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not > > > proceeded > > > > > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > > > > > > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > > > > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > > > > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > > > > > overclocking! > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Wayne, Thaks for all the help that you've given me with this so far. I think I'm making progress. I don't know how much of a "BIOS-flashing" expert you are, but perhaps you can help me further. Just tonight (before trying your latest suggestion), I tried flashing to the BIOS dated 6/12/02, at the suggestion of someone on the AMD newsgroup. The short story is that I got the same results....... However, I took a close look at one of the error messages (post-flash) that I get upon boot-up. It appears to refer to my software firewall ("Tiny Personal Firewall"). I had gotten this error message with my other flash attempts as well, but is was "less decipherable than the other messages, so I forgot about it. In fact, the first error message that I get (about System memory being low) always pops up shortly after the Firewall's Splash Screen pops up. Every time, before flashing, I have carefully made sure that the system was not overclocked (not even the videocard), and I uninstalled Goback (because booting throughout amounted to booting thru a DOS shell, which is a no-no when flashing). But I didn't do anything with my firewall...... Do you know whether this could be a factor? If so, would I need to just disable it? Or would I need to totally uninstall it (ala Goback)? I hope that I don't need to unistall it because re-configuring it could be a pain. Any further thoughts on this would be appreciated! Bert

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> 1) As far as I can tell, you would do this right after flashing the BIOS. I > just copied from AMDMB, but that seems to make sense. > 2) The Clear CMOS jumper is right beside the battery. There should be 3 > pins. Just move the jumper to the cover pins 2-3 to clear the CMOS. Then > move it back. > 3) Correct, the "boot" screen, where you can enter the BIOS. > Wayne > > Thanks, Wayne. I haven't come across that procedure before. Got a few > > questions though.... > > 1. This procedure is meant to be done after completing the BIOS flashing > > routine, right? (I know....stupid question...but I want to make sure > because I > > successfulyy restored my original BIOS. My PC is again running fine at > the > > moment with the original BIOS, but also with the original CPU....) > > 2. Where exactly is the CLEAR CMOS jumper? Would simply removing the > battery > > for a minute or two accomplish the same thing? > > 3. In Step 7, you say "if the screen shows". You don't mean a Windows > screen, > > do you? I assume you mean the screen where you can hit DELETE to enter > the > > BIOS, right? > > If you can clear up those three points, I will give this a shot. > > Thanks a lot! > > Bert > > > Here's something I found on the AMDMB site for someone that was having a > > > similar problem. This was posted by an Epox Tech: > > > 1) Power off > > > 2) Move the CLEAR CMOS jumper to CLEAR for 10 seconds. > > > 3) move the jumper back. > > > 4) Check the CPU die, ensure it was not cracked or chipped in any way by > the > > > heatsink installation. > > > 5) Reinstall the heatsink/fan. > > > 6) Press and hold the INSERT KEY while applying power. > > > 7) Release INSERT if the screen shows. > > > 8) Enter the BIOS and load the optimized defaults. > > > 9) Save and exit. > > > 10) Retest. > > > Wayne > > > > Hi Wayne, > > > > Actually, according to the Epox website, this board can go up to the > > > XP2600 > > > > (266 FSB version), but you have to have the latest BIOS (and that's > the > > > > catch...) > > > > That's exactly why I was flashing my BIOS. Glad to hear that the > 11/6/02 > > > is > > > > supposed to work with earlier CPU's. Do you know if your 1800 is a > > > Palomino or > > > > is it a T'bred? If not, approximately how old is it? Did you have to > > > upgrade > > > > the BIOS to the 11/6/02 version or did that already come with your > mobo? > > > > Finally, do you know of any good Epox-specific resources to answer > some of > > > > these questions? My ISP doesn't provide access to the Epox newsgroup. > > > 8-( > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > Bert > > > > > I can't help with all of your questions but... I have an 8KHA+ with > the > > > > > 11/6/02 bios running an XP1800 chip. No problems. Supposedly this > board > > > can > > > > > handle up to XP2400 with the latest bios. > > > > > Wayne Hutchison > > > > > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > > > > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same > > > system > > > > > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), > I > > > need > > > > > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS > dated > > > > > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > > > > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS > versions > > > > > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > > > > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get > error > > > > > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before > the > > > > > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very > low. > > > > > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > > > > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > > > > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my > > > original > > > > > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with > installing > > > > > > the new CPU. > > > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along > with an > > > > > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where > did > > > you > > > > > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS > also > > > > > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, > and > > > both > > > > > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that > the > > > > > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but > only > > > with > > > > > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not > > > proceeded > > > > > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > > > > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > > > > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > > > > > overclocking! > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Bert

Scott, No, I made sure that nothing was overclocked, but my issue MAY have been my software firewall. (See my response to Wayne Hutchinson on another branch of this original thread.) I'm no expert on AMD CPU's, but if your CPU is a T'bred already, you probably don't need to do a BIOS flash. Epox's CPU chart doesn't show an AMD 2000+ T'bred, so it may very well be that they only come in "Palomino" flavor. In that case you _would_ need to do a BIOS flash. Even though I've run into problems, the good news is that the flash routine's RESTORE feature works great, so you can always return to the BIOS you have now. My system is a bit top-heavy with Goback and a software firewall running, so don't judge the relative ease or difficulty of flashing the BIOS by my experience alone. If you do flash yours and upgrade your CPU, let me know how you make out. BTW -- You are correct that the 8Kha+ Rev 2 can handle up to an AthlonXP2600. However, make sure that it's the 266FSB version, not the 333FSB. The last time I checked prices, the 2600 went for about $285, while I got my 2100 for about $95. They say that the 2100 overclocks to speeds comparable to the 2600. That's why I went for the 2100. ......Just some food for thought. Good Luck. Bert "Scott B. Husted" wrote:

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> I'm very interested in this as I have an Epox 8KHA+ (Revision 2) with an XP > 2000+ and was thinking of doing what you are doing, which is to upgrade the > CPU. The latest CPU guide suggest the 8KHA+ will handle up to an XP2600+ > T-bird with the 9/3/02 BIOS. I remember at one point they had a 9/3/02 BIOS > that was 'BETA' only, but I too saw that was gone and the 11/6/02 was in its > place so I would assume that would be the correct BIOS. > > You didn't have your motherboard overclocked when you upgraded the BIOS did > you? That's the only warning I see on the Epox site. > > Please keep me updated on how you make out! > > -- > Scott B. Husted > "PA-Scott" > ICQ# 4395450 > http://www.Husted.cc > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > the new CPU. > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > overclocking! > > > > Thanks! > > Bert > > > > > > > > > >

Scott, No, I made sure that nothing was overclocked, but my issue MAY have been my software firewall. (See my response to Wayne Hutchinson on another branch of this original thread.) I'm no expert on AMD CPU's, but if your CPU is a T'bred already, you probably don't need to do a BIOS flash. Epox's CPU chart doesn't show an AMD 2000+ T'bred, so it may very well be that they only come in "Palomino" flavor. In that case you _would_ need to do a BIOS flash. Even though I've run into problems, the good news is that the flash routine's RESTORE feature works great, so you can always return to the BIOS you have now. My system is a bit top-heavy with Goback and a software firewall running, so don't judge the relative ease or difficulty of flashing the BIOS by my experience alone. If you do flash yours and upgrade your CPU, let me know how you make out. BTW -- You are correct that the 8Kha+ Rev 2 can handle up to an AthlonXP2600. However, make sure that it's the 266FSB version, not the 333FSB. The last time I checked prices, the 2600 went for about $285, while I got my 2100 for about $95. They say that the 2100 overclocks to speeds comparable to the 2600. That's why I went for the 2100. ......Just some food for thought. Good Luck. Bert

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> I'm very interested in this as I have an Epox 8KHA+ (Revision 2) with an XP > 2000+ and was thinking of doing what you are doing, which is to upgrade the > CPU. The latest CPU guide suggest the 8KHA+ will handle up to an XP2600+ > T-bird with the 9/3/02 BIOS. I remember at one point they had a 9/3/02 BIOS > that was 'BETA' only, but I too saw that was gone and the 11/6/02 was in its > place so I would assume that would be the correct BIOS. > You didn't have your motherboard overclocked when you upgraded the BIOS did > you? That's the only warning I see on the Epox site. > Please keep me updated on how you make out! > -- > Scott B. Husted > "PA-Scott" > ICQ# 4395450 > http://www.Husted.cc > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > the new CPU. > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded > > with installing the new CPU. > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > 8500LE videocard. > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > overclocking! > > Thanks! > > Bert

Thanks Bert... I'm "slightly" overclocking the 2000+ (Running bus at 141 instead of 133) so my speed is 1.76GHz, where the default was 1.67GHz... very minor <G> I knew that I needed the 266 FSB version T-bird, but you are correct, the 2000+ is not a T-bird. My system (8KHA+, 2000+, 1024mb of Crucial PC2100, MSI GF4 4600 using WinXP Pro) seems to be running NR2003 extremely well so I may put off a major rebuild for a bit longer and try and just upgrade the processor to a 2600 and add another video card (thats another whole story when the time comes!) and see how long I can stretch this system out before a ground up rebuild is necessary. =) -- Scott B. Husted "PA-Scott" ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Scott, > > No, I made sure that nothing was overclocked, but my issue MAY have been my > software firewall. (See my response to Wayne Hutchinson on another branch of > this original thread.) > > I'm no expert on AMD CPU's, but if your CPU is a T'bred already, you probably > don't need to do a BIOS flash. Epox's CPU chart doesn't show an AMD 2000+ > T'bred, so it may very well be that they only come in "Palomino" flavor. In > that case you _would_ need to do a BIOS flash. > > Even though I've run into problems, the good news is that the flash routine's > RESTORE feature works great, so you can always return to the BIOS you have now. > My system is a bit top-heavy with Goback and a software firewall running, so > don't judge the relative ease or difficulty of flashing the BIOS by my > experience alone. > > If you do flash yours and upgrade your CPU, let me know how you make out. > > BTW -- You are correct that the 8Kha+ Rev 2 can handle up to an AthlonXP2600. > However, make sure that it's the 266FSB version, not the 333FSB. The last time > I checked prices, the 2600 went for about $285, while I got my 2100 for about > $95. They say that the 2100 overclocks to speeds comparable to the 2600. > That's why I went for the 2100. ......Just some food for thought. > > Good Luck. > Bert > > > > > "Scott B. Husted" wrote: > > > I'm very interested in this as I have an Epox 8KHA+ (Revision 2) with an XP > > 2000+ and was thinking of doing what you are doing, which is to upgrade the > > CPU. The latest CPU guide suggest the 8KHA+ will handle up to an XP2600+ > > T-bird with the 9/3/02 BIOS. I remember at one point they had a 9/3/02 BIOS > > that was 'BETA' only, but I too saw that was gone and the 11/6/02 was in its > > place so I would assume that would be the correct BIOS. > > > > You didn't have your motherboard overclocked when you upgraded the BIOS did > > you? That's the only warning I see on the Epox site. > > > > Please keep me updated on how you make out! > > > > -- > > Scott B. Husted > > "PA-Scott" > > ICQ# 4395450 > > http://www.Husted.cc > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same system > > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I need > > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my original > > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > > the new CPU. > > > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did you > > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and both > > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only with > > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not proceeded > > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > > overclocking! > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Doh, meant T-bred, not T-bird. <G> -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those that get binary and those who don't" "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3e472d5d$[email hidden]... > Thanks Bert... I'm "slightly" overclocking the 2000+ (Running bus at 141 > instead of 133) so my speed is 1.76GHz, where the default was 1.67GHz... > very minor <G> > > I knew that I needed the 266 FSB version T-bird, but you are correct, the > 2000+ is not a T-bird. > > My system (8KHA+, 2000+, 1024mb of Crucial PC2100, MSI GF4 4600 using WinXP > Pro) seems to be running NR2003 extremely well so I may put off a major > rebuild for a bit longer and try and just upgrade the processor to a 2600 > and add another video card (thats another whole story when the time comes!) > and see how long I can stretch this system out before a ground up rebuild is > necessary. =) > > -- > Scott B. Husted > "PA-Scott" > ICQ# 4395450 > http://www.Husted.cc > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Scott, > > > > No, I made sure that nothing was overclocked, but my issue MAY have been > my > > software firewall. (See my response to Wayne Hutchinson on another branch > of > > this original thread.) > > > > I'm no expert on AMD CPU's, but if your CPU is a T'bred already, you > probably > > don't need to do a BIOS flash. Epox's CPU chart doesn't show an AMD 2000+ > > T'bred, so it may very well be that they only come in "Palomino" flavor. > In > > that case you _would_ need to do a BIOS flash. > > > > Even though I've run into problems, the good news is that the flash > routine's > > RESTORE feature works great, so you can always return to the BIOS you have > now. > > My system is a bit top-heavy with Goback and a software firewall running, > so > > don't judge the relative ease or difficulty of flashing the BIOS by my > > experience alone. > > > > If you do flash yours and upgrade your CPU, let me know how you make out. > > > > BTW -- You are correct that the 8Kha+ Rev 2 can handle up to an > AthlonXP2600. > > However, make sure that it's the 266FSB version, not the 333FSB. The last > time > > I checked prices, the 2600 went for about $285, while I got my 2100 for > about > > $95. They say that the 2100 overclocks to speeds comparable to the 2600. > > That's why I went for the 2100. ......Just some food for thought. > > > > Good Luck. > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > "Scott B. Husted" wrote: > > > > > I'm very interested in this as I have an Epox 8KHA+ (Revision 2) with an > XP > > > 2000+ and was thinking of doing what you are doing, which is to upgrade > the > > > CPU. The latest CPU guide suggest the 8KHA+ will handle up to an > XP2600+ > > > T-bird with the 9/3/02 BIOS. I remember at one point they had a 9/3/02 > BIOS > > > that was 'BETA' only, but I too saw that was gone and the 11/6/02 was in > its > > > place so I would assume that would be the correct BIOS. > > > > > > You didn't have your motherboard overclocked when you upgraded the BIOS > did > > > you? That's the only warning I see on the Epox site. > > > > > > Please keep me updated on how you make out! > > > > > > -- > > > Scott B. Husted > > > "PA-Scott" > > > ICQ# 4395450 > > > http://www.Husted.cc > > > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Sorry for the OT post (again), but this is driving me nuts, and I > > > > suspect that there are some RASsers running practically the same > system > > > > as mine, so I hope that they can help me out. > > > > > > > > According to the Epox website (on their CPU compatibility chart), I > need > > > > to flash the BIOS of my Epox 8Kha+ (Version 2.0) mobo to a BIOS dated > > > > 9/3/02, in order to install my new AthlonXP2100 CPU T'bred B. (My > > > > present CPU is an XP1700 Palamino). However, the only BIOS versions > > > > available to download are dated either 11/6/02 or 6/12/02. So, I > > > > figured that I need to use the later of the two (11/6/02). > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, after successfully completing this flash, I get error > > > > messages upon boot-up Specifically, I get a message just before the > > > > Windows desktop loads that says: " System memory is running very low. > > > > Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect may not function properly." And the > > > > system runs like crap. Luckily the "Restore" feature of the BIOS > > > > flashing routine works great, so I've been able to return to my > original > > > > BIOS and get running again. But, that doesn't help me with installing > > > > the new CPU. > > > > > > > > So, is anyone here using an Epox 8Kha+ mobo (Version 2), along with an > > > > AthlonXP1700 (Palamino). If so, what BIOS are you using; where did > you > > > > download it from; and how did you flash it? And does that BIOS also > > > > support the XP2100 T'bred B? > > > > > > > > I followed the BIOS flashing instructions to the letter, twice, and > both > > > > times ran into the same problem outlined above. Could it be that the > > > > 11/6/02 BIOS isn't compatible with the present 1700XP CPU, but only > with > > > > my new XP2100 CPU? I find that hard to believe, so I have not > proceeded > > > > with installing the new CPU. > > > > > > > > FYI, my system runs Win98SE, 512 Megs PC2100 RAM, and has a Radeon > > > > 8500LE videocard. > > > > > > > > Can anyone help me out with this? Any thoughts would be _greatly_ > > > > appreciated. I want to get that new CPU installed and start > > > > overclocking! > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >