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GTR2 - NFS2 - help

9 posts by 7 people · 15 Dec 2006 20:41 UTC - 20 Dec 2006 18:10 UTC

Dowell 15 Dec 2006 20:41 UTC#7741
A few weeks ago, I asked this group for suggestions on an auto sim that used the mouse (instead of keyboard, joystick or wheel). GTR-2 was suggested, so I bought it. Yes, it runs great with just the mouse. Thanks for the great tip on a fantastic program. It *is* fantastic. I only have one issue with it.....it is too much for me. Man, this thing needed 3 discs for the install and is very, very detailed.....for what I was looking for, too detailed. I was looking for something like NFS2 (the one that could be controlled with a mouse).......I have a copy, but it won't run on Windows XP (if you know how that can be done, please let me know, as I could never find an answer via Google, and I really enjoyed that program.) Otherwise, is there a way to simply start GTR-2, get in a car, and drive around the track? I really don't want to learn the tracks, the circuits, take lessons, take various levels of lessons within lessons then tests within various levels of levels within lessons, learn the physics of traction and take tests on it, adjust my tire pressure, etc., for hours or weeks just to be able to get into a car and drive around a track. This program is just waaaayyyyy ahead of me on the learning curve. It reminds me of MS Flight Simulator on full-manual mode in a Lear jet.....just way too much to learn. It took me days just to take off in a Piper Cub. If this program is just too advanced for my needs, I understand, and I'll sell it or trade it for something that is like NFS2 (mouse controlled), a program like "Driver" (but with better graphics), a NASCAR simple sim, or something like that. All advice and suggestions welcomed. TIA!
Mark 16 Dec 2006 00:47 UTC↳ reply to Dowell#7743
Dowell wrote:
Quoted text (36 lines)> A few weeks ago, I asked this group for suggestions on an auto sim that used > the mouse (instead of keyboard, joystick or wheel). > > GTR-2 was suggested, so I bought it. Yes, it runs great with just the > mouse. Thanks for the great tip on a fantastic program. It *is* fantastic. > > I only have one issue with it.....it is too much for me. Man, this thing > needed 3 discs for the install and is very, very detailed.....for what I was > looking for, too detailed. > > I was looking for something like NFS2 (the one that could be controlled with > a mouse).......I have a copy, but it won't run on Windows XP (if you know > how that can be done, please let me know, as I could never find an answer > via Google, and I really enjoyed that program.) > > Otherwise, is there a way to simply start GTR-2, get in a car, and drive > around the track? I really don't want to learn the tracks, the circuits, > take lessons, take various levels of lessons within lessons then tests > within various levels of levels within lessons, learn the physics of > traction and take tests on it, adjust my tire pressure, etc., for hours or > weeks just to be able to get into a car and drive around a track. > > This program is just waaaayyyyy ahead of me on the learning curve. It > reminds me of MS Flight Simulator on full-manual mode in a Lear jet.....just > way too much to learn. It took me days just to take off in a Piper Cub. > > If this program is just too advanced for my needs, I understand, and I'll > sell it or trade it for something that is like NFS2 (mouse controlled), a > program like "Driver" (but with better graphics), a NASCAR simple sim, or > something like that. > > All advice and suggestions welcomed. TIA! > > > >
I just jumped in and started racing with GTR2 immediately (admittedly with the wheel). It has various difficulty options, but just stick with the default, that gives you traction control, etc. (more realistic in my opinion). You do need to learn the tracks though, if you aren't already familiar with them. I don't see how you could have a racing game where you don't need to learn the tracks - unless the car drives itself.
Ed Medlin 17 Dec 2006 16:33 UTC↳ reply to Mark#7809
"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nmHgh.64536$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (50 lines)> Dowell wrote: >> A few weeks ago, I asked this group for suggestions on an auto sim that >> used >> the mouse (instead of keyboard, joystick or wheel). >> >> GTR-2 was suggested, so I bought it. Yes, it runs great with just the >> mouse. Thanks for the great tip on a fantastic program. It *is* >> fantastic. >> >> I only have one issue with it.....it is too much for me. Man, this thing >> needed 3 discs for the install and is very, very detailed.....for what I >> was >> looking for, too detailed. >> >> I was looking for something like NFS2 (the one that could be controlled >> with >> a mouse).......I have a copy, but it won't run on Windows XP (if you know >> how that can be done, please let me know, as I could never find an answer >> via Google, and I really enjoyed that program.) >> >> Otherwise, is there a way to simply start GTR-2, get in a car, and drive >> around the track? I really don't want to learn the tracks, the circuits, >> take lessons, take various levels of lessons within lessons then tests >> within various levels of levels within lessons, learn the physics of >> traction and take tests on it, adjust my tire pressure, etc., for hours >> or >> weeks just to be able to get into a car and drive around a track. >> >> This program is just waaaayyyyy ahead of me on the learning curve. It >> reminds me of MS Flight Simulator on full-manual mode in a Lear >> jet.....just >> way too much to learn. It took me days just to take off in a Piper Cub. >> >> If this program is just too advanced for my needs, I understand, and I'll >> sell it or trade it for something that is like NFS2 (mouse controlled), a >> program like "Driver" (but with better graphics), a NASCAR simple sim, or >> something like that. >> >> All advice and suggestions welcomed. TIA! >> >> >> >> > > I just jumped in and started racing with GTR2 immediately (admittedly with > the wheel). It has various difficulty options, but just stick with the > default, that gives you traction control, etc. (more realistic in my > opinion). You do need to learn the tracks though, if you aren't already > familiar with them. I don't see how you could have a racing game where you > don't need to learn the tracks - unless the car drives itself.
Actually, GTR2 without a wheel would, at least for me, be impossible to drive. The NFS Underground series might be a better bet but I am not sure it will work with a mouse. I know it has keyboard controls though. At least it has the option to just drive around, although you may get some challenges. Ed
Andi Cole 18 Dec 2006 18:34 UTC↳ reply to Dowell#7834
Create an empty file called SDNDTG.DYN in your GTR2 folder and run GTR2 you will now have all cars and tracks to play with. Set the sim up for amateur level and have fun. Andi. "Dowell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:458309a7$0$16982$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (41 lines)>A few weeks ago, I asked this group for suggestions on an auto sim that >used > the mouse (instead of keyboard, joystick or wheel). > > GTR-2 was suggested, so I bought it. Yes, it runs great with just the > mouse. Thanks for the great tip on a fantastic program. It *is* > fantastic. > > I only have one issue with it.....it is too much for me. Man, this thing > needed 3 discs for the install and is very, very detailed.....for what I > was > looking for, too detailed. > > I was looking for something like NFS2 (the one that could be controlled > with > a mouse).......I have a copy, but it won't run on Windows XP (if you know > how that can be done, please let me know, as I could never find an answer > via Google, and I really enjoyed that program.) > > Otherwise, is there a way to simply start GTR-2, get in a car, and drive > around the track? I really don't want to learn the tracks, the circuits, > take lessons, take various levels of lessons within lessons then tests > within various levels of levels within lessons, learn the physics of > traction and take tests on it, adjust my tire pressure, etc., for hours or > weeks just to be able to get into a car and drive around a track. > > This program is just waaaayyyyy ahead of me on the learning curve. It > reminds me of MS Flight Simulator on full-manual mode in a Lear > jet.....just > way too much to learn. It took me days just to take off in a Piper Cub. > > If this program is just too advanced for my needs, I understand, and I'll > sell it or trade it for something that is like NFS2 (mouse controlled), a > program like "Driver" (but with better graphics), a NASCAR simple sim, or > something like that. > > All advice and suggestions welcomed. TIA! > > > >
Jeff Reid 19 Dec 2006 01:06 UTC↳ reply to Dowell#7838
> I was looking for something like NFS2 (the one that could be controlled with > a mouse).......I have a copy, but it won't run on Windows XP (if you know > how that can be done, please let me know, as I could never find an answer > via Google, and I really enjoyed that program.) Do you have NFS2 or NFS2SE? NFS2 and NFS2SE will run with Windows XP, but they have a problem if ram or the swap file is bigger than 512MB. There are two workarounds. You can download this zip file: http://jeffareid.net/nfs2/w512mb.zip, and run w512mb.exe one or more times to allocate (use up) ram and swap file space. I run it 4 times, and then I can run NFS2SE. The other workaround is to create an Application Compatability database entry for it via a .SDB file. I made one for NFS2SEN.EXE and NFS2SEA.EXE. You need to install \support\tools\act20.exe from your Windows XP cd-rom. This is the appication compatability tool kit. Then run the "Compatibility Administration Tool" to create an .SDB file for NFS2.EXE. Click on Database, create application fix, and click on these 3 items: CorrectFilePaths EmulateGetDiskFreeSpace GlobalMemoryStatusLie Then do a save as ..., I suggest you use the name nfs2xp.sdb. Now that you have the sdb created, you need to install it. To do this run \windows\system32\sdbinst.exe nfs2xp.sdb. If you have NFS2SE, there's a 3d version that you can use a glide wrapper with it to increase resolution.
drbo.. 20 Dec 2006 17:42 UTC↳ reply to Dowell#7601
Dowell wrote:
Quoted text (17 lines)> I only have one issue with it.....it is too much for me. Man, this thing > needed 3 discs for the install and is very, very detailed.....for what I was > looking for, too detailed. > > I was looking for something like NFS2 (the one that could be controlled with > a mouse).......I have a copy, but it won't run on Windows XP (if you know > how that can be done, please let me know, as I could never find an answer > via Google, and I really enjoyed that program.) > > Otherwise, is there a way to simply start GTR-2, get in a car, and drive > around the track? I really don't want to learn the tracks, the circuits, > take lessons, take various levels of lessons within lessons then tests > within various levels of levels within lessons, learn the physics of > traction and take tests on it, adjust my tire pressure, etc., for hours or > weeks just to be able to get into a car and drive around a track. > > All advice and suggestions welcomed. TIA!
Just use arcade mode. There'll be some locked tracks, but plenty are unlocked as defaults. None of the cars are locked. If that's too easy, semi-pro with your choice of driving aids. Note that the school exercises definitely help you learn to go faster, tho.
Larry 20 Dec 2006 18:10 UTC↳ reply to drbo..#7602
I agree. The driving school is actually pretty darned good in GTR2. I still get my ass kicked in the hairpin lesson. -Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Note that the school exercises definitely help you learn to go faster, > tho. >

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