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Daytona and the Jasper setup

9 posts by 5 people · 11 Feb 2003 12:14 UTC - 12 Feb 2003 18:49 UTC

jon 11 Feb 2003 12:14 UTC#77297
Ok, I am qualifying in the high 47.2xx's and low 47.3's. That puts me right at the front usually. Using the jasper setup, there is NO way you can run with the top 4 or 5. Furthermore, it pushes so bad, you'll do good if you can hold a line well enough let faster cars by without hitting the wall in the turns once the pack gets up to speed. This has to be the practical joke of the century. The jasper setup guide contains a disclaimer saying these were only setups that real winston cup teams might PLAUSIBLY run. This begs the following question: who, except perhaps K Petty, would even entertain the foolish notion of running something this bad at the biggest race of the year?
Dan Belcher 11 Feb 2003 15:51 UTC↳ reply to jon#77314
Quoted text (16 lines)> >Ok, I am qualifying in the high 47.2xx's and low 47.3's. That puts me right >at the front usually. Using the jasper setup, there is NO way you can run >with the top 4 or 5. Furthermore, it pushes so bad, you'll do good if you >can hold a line well enough let faster cars by without hitting the wall in >the turns once the pack gets up to speed. This has to be the practical joke >of the century. > >The jasper setup guide contains a disclaimer saying these were only setups >that real winston cup teams might PLAUSIBLY run. > >This begs the following question: who, except perhaps K Petty, would even >entertain the foolish notion of running something this bad at the biggest >race of the year? > >
Notice we go about 10mph faster in the draft in N2003 than the cars do in reality. Plus the Jasper setup IS detuned a little so that other Cup teams can't steal Jasper Motorsports' ideas. Both those put together equal a crap setup for us. ;) ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Webmaster, http://simcrash.fameflame.dk
Larry 11 Feb 2003 16:09 UTC↳ reply to jon#77318
You know, I totally agree with you on every aspect of this setup. Oddly though, there are some that actually LIKE this setup. I honestly don't get it :) Larry "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MN52a.63315$[email hidden]... > Ok, I am qualifying in the high 47.2xx's and low 47.3's. That puts meright > at the front usually. Using the jasper setup, there is NO way you can run > with the top 4 or 5. Furthermore, it pushes so bad, you'll do good if you > can hold a line well enough let faster cars by without hitting the wall in > the turns once the pack gets up to speed. This has to be the practicaljoke
Quoted text (11 lines)> of the century. > > The jasper setup guide contains a disclaimer saying these were only setups > that real winston cup teams might PLAUSIBLY run. > > This begs the following question: who, except perhaps K Petty, would even > entertain the foolish notion of running something this bad at the biggest > race of the year? > > >
jon 11 Feb 2003 17:49 UTC↳ reply to Larry#77156
Well you don't have to worry about me trying to pass you if you are running the Jasper setup. I'll just wait for you to start running up the track and try to dodge all the chaos you create.... :) "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Qe92a.26886$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> You know, I totally agree with you on every aspect of this setup. > > Oddly though, there are some that actually LIKE this setup. I honestly > don't get it :) > > Larry > > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:MN52a.63315$[email hidden]... > > Ok, I am qualifying in the high 47.2xx's and low 47.3's. That puts me > right > > at the front usually. Using the jasper setup, there is NO way you can
run > > with the top 4 or 5. Furthermore, it pushes so bad, you'll do good ifyou > > can hold a line well enough let faster cars by without hitting the wallin > > the turns once the pack gets up to speed. This has to be the practical > joke > > of the century. > > > > The jasper setup guide contains a disclaimer saying these were onlysetups > > that real winston cup teams might PLAUSIBLY run. > > > > This begs the following question: who, except perhaps K Petty, wouldeven > > entertain the foolish notion of running something this bad at thebiggest > > race of the year? > > > > > > > >
Larry 11 Feb 2003 18:37 UTC↳ reply to jon#77173
No worries, I don't use it. You are free to ass-end me like everyone else online does :) Larry "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jCa2a.41327$[email hidden]... > Well you don't have to worry about me trying to pass you if you arerunning
Quoted text (22 lines)> the Jasper setup. I'll just wait for you to start running up the track and > try to dodge all the chaos you create.... > :) > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Qe92a.26886$[email hidden]... > > You know, I totally agree with you on every aspect of this setup. > > > > Oddly though, there are some that actually LIKE this setup. I honestly > > don't get it :) > > > > Larry > > > > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:MN52a.63315$[email hidden]... > > > Ok, I am qualifying in the high 47.2xx's and low 47.3's. That puts me > > right > > > at the front usually. Using the jasper setup, there is NO way you can > run > > > with the top 4 or 5. Furthermore, it pushes so bad, you'll do good if > you > > > can hold a line well enough let faster cars by without hitting the
wall
Quoted text (22 lines)> in > > > the turns once the pack gets up to speed. This has to be the practical > > joke > > > of the century. > > > > > > The jasper setup guide contains a disclaimer saying these were only > setups > > > that real winston cup teams might PLAUSIBLY run. > > > > > > This begs the following question: who, except perhaps K Petty, would > even > > > entertain the foolish notion of running something this bad at the > biggest > > > race of the year? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
"Larry" wrote... > You know, I totally agree with you on every aspect of > this setup. > > Oddly though, there are some that actually LIKE this > setup. I honestly don't get it :) I said it wasn't bad when you're out alone on the track (with some of that tape off to stop the engine from overheating, of course). I also said it's pointless to try to find a way to drive or modify an existing setup to run in the draft in the demo as the physics of that were to be changed in the release version. If all goes well I will receive said release version in the next couple days and maybe I will change my mind on the subject, but if the aero push is reduced somewhat I don't think I'll be making big adjustments to those Jasper setups. Then again, I'm not looking for a setup that will allow me to run 10mph faster than the real WC drivers. I don't "need" a 45 second (or whatever) lap. Jan. =---
(unknown) 12 Feb 2003 07:01 UTC↳ reply to jon#76994
I find that the following happens to me regardless of setup. If you don't hug the bottom you get pushed up outside and everyone goes by. If you do hug the bottom the RF overheats and the aero push becomes unmanageable. 1. Suggestions? 2. Does the outside line ever work in N2003 at Daytona?
Get yer wrenches out :) In the pack, the Jasper setup is miserable (though they did fix the tape) in the final release. If aero push was decreased, I sure don't see it. Larry "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SCb2a.44408$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> "Larry" wrote... > > You know, I totally agree with you on every aspect of > > this setup. > > > > Oddly though, there are some that actually LIKE this > > setup. I honestly don't get it :) > > I said it wasn't bad when you're out alone on the track (with some of that > tape off to stop the engine from overheating, of course). I also said it's > pointless to try to find a way to drive or modify an existing setup to run > in the draft in the demo as the physics of that were to be changed in the > release version. > > If all goes well I will receive said release version in the next couple
days
Quoted text (12 lines)> and maybe I will change my mind on the subject, but if the aero push is > reduced somewhat I don't think I'll be making big adjustments to those > Jasper setups. > > Then again, I'm not looking for a setup that will allow me to run 10mph > faster than the real WC drivers. I don't "need" a 45 second (or whatever) > lap. > > Jan. > =--- > >
Larry 12 Feb 2003 18:49 UTC↳ reply to (unknown)#76909
Go to 800/900 on the front springs, then get the tire temps close, then get the weight right, then fix the temps again. Wash, rinse, repeat :) Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> I find that the following happens to me regardless of setup. If you > don't hug the bottom you get pushed up outside and everyone goes by. > If you do hug the bottom the RF overheats and the aero push becomes > unmanageable. > > 1. Suggestions? > > 2. Does the outside line ever work in N2003 at Daytona?

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