Idea about RASCAR "problem"

Hello For once I'm going to be the "moderate guy here", I'll bitch about US and Irak some other time, ha ha ha. Of course RASCAR "news" have a right to be there because it's RAScar league. Of course "non RASCAR" people have a right not to be buggered by a LOT of posts which have NOTHING to do with simulation. So here's the idea : Send some UN troops in irak (no shit, that's not for this problem...) RASCAR people (or admin or moderators or call them whatever you want) SHOULD post here about IMPORTANT stuff such as Race schedule Tech problems (new ATI drivers and so on) RASCAR people SHOULD NOT post here about UNIMPORTANT (to the others) stuff such as Race results (frankly even in the end it was becoming tedious to get 25 post about the results of Eldred's last online GPL race from the sunday) Race comments, posts like "hey you txl bastard you pushed me in the last corner..." frankly besides the guy that pushed and the guy that was pushed, who gives a shit ? why not take this problem "privately" by email ? Let's keep this in perspective, the occasional post about "how great was my last lap when I passed 5 people..." is OK but do you realize that if RASCAR people post all about their settings, race results, race comment and so on then it means that EVERYBODY racing on VROC is entitled to explain to us the race he had, bitch about the occasional "backwards driver" and so on, it's been done of course, but nowhere near the proportions that RASCAR is going right now. Another advice to John Simmons, I don't think it is a fantastic idea to adress people individually in the NG, if you need to contact Don Wilshe or whoever then mail them directly, of course I assume that all the RASCARers have provided a valid email adress when registering to the league so why do it there ?. Now you can all bash me as much as you want but I think that a little more respect from everybody towards everybody shouldn't harm things here... TXL who doesn't care about NASCAR (so does not plan to join RASCAR)... -- The first ever pinball ezboard !! http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY

Very reasonable suggestions Txl. However, since the results of this dicussion will affect me as a non-RASCARer as well, I'd like to say while I find John's sending individual posts like 5 in a row about the same issue a bit boisterous, I at the same time enjoy reading race reports or discussions about races and settings/setups. Sometimes for technical reasons as the findings are interesting for me as well, and sometimes for the purely social value of reading about what happened to the people I'm in contact with all the time. I have 'known' all the regulars here for several years now, and while my interest in some is more profound than in others, I find all the stories interesting and read them with pleasure when I have the time. And if they're boring, I simply skip them. I wouldn't want to miss any of them, especially not at the risk of missing something interesting as well. As for John's spilling RASCAR postings all over the place instead of being a bit more economical with his postings - I didn't mind his postings either, since it is after all no problem to simply not read them when they're not for you, which I have done with all the stuff addressed by name to other individuals and most other postings labelled RASCAR with a topic I didn't find interesting be. I just don't open messages that are clearly related to the RASCAR league orginaisation, and luckily John's labelling his postings clearly, so it's no prob at all to simply skip them. I'd like to keep all the RASCAR postings in here. I'd rather have to skip a couple of organisational bla-bla than lose some interesting findings or reports, or even entertaining arguments about race situations ;-) This is also no criticism of Schooner and others sharing his opinion, I just think that maybe we should be relaxed about these issues and just skip stuff we're not interested in, as else we might be losing interesting information as well. Achim

Joachim Trensz wrote: > > This is also no criticism of Schooner and others sharing his opinion, I just > think that maybe we should be relaxed about these issues and just skip stuff > we're not interested in, as else we might be losing interesting information > as well. Yep, I don't race with the RASCAR guys either, wish I had the time, but as long as they clearly mark it as RASCAR it's easy to set up a filter for it for those that *really* don't want to see it Personally I think that if we cut out everything in here that was slightly OT, it would quickly become a very boring place, the variety of the postings in here combined with the fact that we manage to stay somewhat on the topic of racing, computers or preferably the combination of the two is what makes this NG come alive It's not boring and it's usually not a flame fest, on the whole I'd say we're doing pretty good Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:36:38 +0100, "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote: <snip> I'm not sure I understand why you can't just not read them? I'm not racing RASCAR this year at all, but I don't see how having a bunch of posts about it is a bad thing. It doesn't take any effort at all to ignore threads that aren't of interest. Jason

well, I don't read them, but look at it this way, if EVERYBODY running a league does the same then we have 500 new posts per day and let's say 450 are of no interest to 95% of the people here...and frankly why would the people running the "CROATIAN GPL F3 LEAGUE" have a lesser right to post about their roster, rules, race summaries and so on. When you do something as specialised as RASCAR of course you use the NG to give out GENERAL information but you create a DEDICATED board for your INTERNAL stuff...and frankly the fact that John Doe has not yet given his Sierra ID is of NO interest except to John Doe, so mail him and don't post it here...no ? I don't even mention the DL time because fortunately for me I am on DSL but for people still on RTC it can be a "pain" to have to DL another 50k or so worth of RASCAR messages.... -- The first ever pinball ezboard !! http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: [email hidden]... > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:36:38 +0100, "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote: > > <snip> > > I'm not sure I understand why you can't just not read them? I'm not > racing RASCAR this year at all, but I don't see how having a bunch of > posts about it is a bad thing. It doesn't take any effort at all to > ignore threads that aren't of interest. > > Jason

Thank you. That was my point all along. "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message news:3e4c0f26$0$516$[email hidden]...

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> well, I don't read them, but look at it this way, if EVERYBODY running a > league does the same then we have 500 new posts per day and let's say 450 > are of no interest to 95% of the people here...and frankly why would the > people running the "CROATIAN GPL F3 LEAGUE" have a lesser right to post > about their roster, rules, race summaries and so on. > > When you do something as specialised as RASCAR of course you use the NG to > give out GENERAL information but you create a DEDICATED board for your > INTERNAL stuff...and frankly the fact that John Doe has not yet given his > Sierra ID is of NO interest except to John Doe, so mail him and don't post > it here...no ? > > I don't even mention the DL time because fortunately for me I am on DSL

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> for people still on RTC it can be a "pain" to have to DL another 50k or so > worth of RASCAR messages.... > > > > -- > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE -

RYL

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> FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: > [email hidden]... > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:36:38 +0100, "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > I'm not sure I understand why you can't just not read them? I'm not > > racing RASCAR this year at all, but I don't see how having a bunch of > > posts about it is a bad thing. It doesn't take any effort at all to > > ignore threads that aren't of interest. > > > > Jason >

Every other league isn't RASCAR, which is part of the RAS newsgroup. Dammit, people just aren't getting that John. Larry "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message news:3e4c0f26$0$516$[email hidden]...

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> well, I don't read them, but look at it this way, if EVERYBODY running a > league does the same then we have 500 new posts per day and let's say 450 > are of no interest to 95% of the people here...and frankly why would the > people running the "CROATIAN GPL F3 LEAGUE" have a lesser right to post > about their roster, rules, race summaries and so on. > > When you do something as specialised as RASCAR of course you use the NG to > give out GENERAL information but you create a DEDICATED board for your > INTERNAL stuff...and frankly the fact that John Doe has not yet given his > Sierra ID is of NO interest except to John Doe, so mail him and don't post > it here...no ? > > I don't even mention the DL time because fortunately for me I am on DSL

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> for people still on RTC it can be a "pain" to have to DL another 50k or so > worth of RASCAR messages.... > > > > -- > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE -

RYL

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> FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: > [email hidden]... > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:36:38 +0100, "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > I'm not sure I understand why you can't just not read them? I'm not > > racing RASCAR this year at all, but I don't see how having a bunch of > > posts about it is a bad thing. It doesn't take any effort at all to > > ignore threads that aren't of interest. > > > > Jason >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: ykU2a.1963$[email hidden]... > Every other league isn't RASCAR, which is part of the RAS newsgroup. > > Dammit, people just aren't getting that John. > > Larry >I'm sorry to say so but this is utter nonsense... Just because some clever person has made a parralel between NASCAR and R.A.S for RASCAR does not give RASCAR any rights more than the CROATIAN GPL F3 LEAGUE. if it's like that then I'll trade mark immediatly al the names : RASGTR (hard to say) RASRL RASGPL and so on.... RASCAR does not "own" in any way this NG, and although RASCAR has the complete right to inform the RAS public about their leagues and so on it should not think that "I own the place, I do what I want and screw you if you don't agree", just like the now famous CGFL (yes, the non existant but now famed CROATION GPL F3 LEAGUE), I hope it doesn't exist in real life otherwise I'm in for some bashing, ha ha ha....

> Every other league isn't RASCAR, which is part of the RAS newsgroup. > > Dammit, people just aren't getting that John. FFS. It's just a league like any other. Just because someone decided to put RAS in the title doesn't make it any more relevant to this NEWSgroup than any other league.

"Redmist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b2h544$1b20t0$[email hidden]...

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> > Every other league isn't RASCAR, which is part of the RAS newsgroup. > > > > Dammit, people just aren't getting that John. > > FFS. It's just a league like any other. Just because someone decided to > put RAS in the title doesn't make it any more relevant to this NEWSgroup > than any other league.

RASCAR is not a true league. It's a way for people from r.a.s. to get together and race. Simple as that. We are using N2003 because it has the best online code, but any sim that has good online code could be used in the future. There are no points, or a championship to be won. No prizes. No bragging rights, sponsorship, etc. R.a.s. is about auto simulators, and supposedly the people who frequent this newsgroup are very serious and enthusiastic about auto sims. Online racing is a key ingredient that most of us hope will be included in all auto sims in the near future. It only makes sense then that we should get together and race each other, and then discuss those races here at r.a.s. David G Fisher

. > > RASCAR is not a true league. It's a way for people from r.a.s. > to get together and race. Simple as that. We are using N2003 because ithas > the best online code, but any sim that has good online code could be usedin > the future. > > There are no points, or a championship to be won. No prizes. No bragging > rights, sponsorship, etc. > > R.a.s. is about auto simulators, and supposedly the people who frequentthis > newsgroup are very serious and enthusiastic about auto sims. Online racing > is a key ingredient that most of us hope will be included in all auto sims > in the near future. It only makes sense then that we should get togetherand > race each other, and then discuss those races here at r.a.s. > > David G Fisher > Ok, true, you said it right, but what about the post calling for "hey DGF, i need your sierra ID !!"

In article <3e4c0f26$0$516$[email hidden]>, "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> says... > well, I don't read them, but look at it this way, if EVERYBODY running a > league does the same then we have 500 new posts per day and let's say 450 > are of no interest to 95% of the people here...and frankly why would the > people running the "CROATIAN GPL F3 LEAGUE" have a lesser right to post > about their roster, rules, race summaries and so on. So bloody what? Let 'em post, I don't really care myself one way or the other. > When you do something as specialised as RASCAR of course you use the NG to > give out GENERAL information but you create a DEDICATED board for your > INTERNAL stuff...and frankly the fact that John Doe has not yet given his > Sierra ID is of NO interest except to John Doe, so mail him and don't post > it here...no ? Waitaminit, I control the roster, and I didn't see anyone named John Doe. I guess I'm gonna have to leave a special post to have him tell me what his Sierra ID is. > > I don't even mention the DL time because fortunately for me I am on DSL but > for people still on RTC it can be a "pain" to have to DL another 50k or so > worth of RASCAR messages.... > We're not really all that concerned with "the little people", or "those less fortunate." If it wasn't for the complains that everyone is posting, there wouldn't BE 50K of RASCAR posts. Think about that...

Are you guys twins separated at birth? In article <SdU2a.542$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Thank you. That was my point all along. > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > news:3e4c0f26$0$516$[email hidden]... > > well, I don't read them, but look at it this way, if EVERYBODY running a > > league does the same then we have 500 new posts per day and let's say 450

In article <ykU2a.1963$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Every other league isn't RASCAR, which is part of the RAS newsgroup. > > Dammit, people just aren't getting that John. > > Larry > Let's try to maintain a little control Larry. You're not shoing any respect for etiquette or other people's feelings... You're a BAD RASCAR driver... BAD!

"David G Fisher" wrote: > R.a.s. is about auto simulators, and supposedly the people who frequent this > newsgroup are very serious and enthusiastic about auto sims. Online racing > is a key ingredient that most of us hope will be included in all auto sims > in the near future. It only makes sense then that we should get together and > race each other, and then discuss those races here at r.a.s. You've caught up! Yep - agree with that. This was never a Papy Nascar sim only league IMO. Indeed there were RAS passworded LFS races as I recall which all come under the same umbrella. Like a motor club with various events to discuss and organise (and gossip about) The registration and roster bit adds some degree of scope for keeping out wreckers who stumble across ras, and to feed John's obsession for painting cars and car numbers. Cheers Tony

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: [email hidden]... > In article <3e4c0f26$0$516$[email hidden]>, "Txl" <txl AT > free.fr> says... > > well, I don't read them, but look at it this way, if EVERYBODY running a > > league does the same then we have 500 new posts per day and let's say450 > > are of no interest to 95% of the people here...and frankly why would the > > people running the "CROATIAN GPL F3 LEAGUE" have a lesser right to post > > about their roster, rules, race summaries and so on. > > So bloody what? Let 'em post, I don't really care myself one way or > the other yes but just because YOU don't care doesn't mean WE ALL have to take it, understand ? YOU are not alone in this big world, and not the center of the universe, and just because you admin one internet racing league does not give you special rights/privilieges, you are just 1 in 6 billions John, just like evrybody else, and not worth more or less than everybody else. Go out, watch the sky, watch the stars at night and think that YOU (and all the rest of us) are VERY small... > > When you do something as specialised as RASCAR of course you use the NGto > > give out GENERAL information but you create a DEDICATED board for your > > INTERNAL stuff...and frankly the fact that John Doe has not yet givenhis > > Sierra ID is of NO interest except to John Doe, so mail him and don'tpost > > it here...no ? > > Waitaminit, I control the roster, and I didn't see anyone named John > Doe. I guess I'm gonna have to leave a special post to have him tell > me what his Sierra ID is. ok, 1 point for the humor note. > > > > I don't even mention the DL time because fortunately for me I am on DSLbut > > for people still on RTC it can be a "pain" to have to DL another 50k orso

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> > worth of RASCAR messages.... > > > > We're not really all that concerned with "the little people", or > "those less fortunate." If it wasn't for the complains that everyone > is posting, there wouldn't BE 50K of RASCAR posts. Think about > that...

Jawohl mein Fuhrer !! maybe if people complained it's because there was a reason to complain ?

"Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message news:3e4c1d71$0$491$[email hidden]... > . > > > > RASCAR is not a true league. It's a way for people from r.a.s. > > to get together and race. Simple as that. We are using N2003 because it > has > > the best online code, but any sim that has good online code could beused

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> in > > the future. > > > > There are no points, or a championship to be won. No prizes. No bragging > > rights, sponsorship, etc. > > > > R.a.s. is about auto simulators, and supposedly the people who frequent > this > > newsgroup are very serious and enthusiastic about auto sims. Online

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> > in the near future. It only makes sense then that we should get together > and > > race each other, and then discuss those races here at r.a.s. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > Ok, true, you said it right, but what about the post calling for "hey DGF,

i > need your sierra ID !!" That's a one time thing really as the first race of the season is Sat.. In another day or two the amount of posts will be cut waaay down. The thing is, RASCAR is for people who read this newsgroup, so if it's arrangement isn't posted here then how do it's readers (especially it's semi-regulars) get the opportunity to hear about it and join in? Some new faces have joined simply because of the posts arranging the new season. David G Fisher

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> > That's a one time thing really as the first race of the season is Sat.. In > another day or two the amount of posts will be cut waaay down. > > The thing is, RASCAR is for people who read this newsgroup, so if it's > arrangement isn't posted here then how do it's readers (especially it's > semi-regulars) get the opportunity to hear about it and join in? Some new > faces have joined simply because of the posts arranging the new season. > > David G Fisher >

Don't you think it would be a good idea to do it the "gpl rally" way ? They have set up a special forum just for that, they come here, annouce "season is open" and then give you the link to their forum... I think it's much better for everybody, the people looking for "RASCAR specific stuff" go to this forum and in the NG the topics are more "general" which of course does not prevent AT ALL John and the other RASCAR guys to mention new stuff, dates, deadlines and so on, but why develop them here instead of doing this in a nice forum where you could have screenshots, setups, tweaks....

Larry wrote: > > Every other league isn't RASCAR, which is part of the RAS newsgroup. > > Dammit, people just aren't getting that John. Yes, it's simple enough, but people love to whine! Gerry

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> > > Every other league isn't RASCAR, which is part of the RAS newsgroup. > > > > Dammit, people just aren't getting that John. > > FFS. It's just a league like any other. Just because someone decided to > put RAS in the title doesn't make it any more relevant to this NEWSgroup > than any other league.

It's RAS affiliated.

David G Fisher wrote:

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> > "Redmist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b2h544$1b20t0$[email hidden]... > > > Every other league isn't RASCAR, which is part of the RAS newsgroup. > > > > > > Dammit, people just aren't getting that John. > > > > FFS. It's just a league like any other. Just because someone decided to > > put RAS in the title doesn't make it any more relevant to this NEWSgroup > > than any other league. > > RASCAR is not a true league. It's a way for people from r.a.s. > to get together and race. Simple as that. We are using N2003 because it has > the best online code, but any sim that has good online code could be used in > the future. > > There are no points, or a championship to be won. No prizes. No bragging > rights, sponsorship, etc. > > R.a.s. is about auto simulators, and supposedly the people who frequent this > newsgroup are very serious and enthusiastic about auto sims. Online racing > is a key ingredient that most of us hope will be included in all auto sims > in the near future. It only makes sense then that we should get together and > race each other, and then discuss those races here at r.a.s. > > David G Fisher

I agree. Gerry

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> > So bloody what? Let 'em post, I don't really care myself one way or > > the other > > yes but just because YOU don't care doesn't mean WE ALL have to take it, > understand ? YOU are not alone in this big world, and not the center of the > universe, and just because you admin one internet racing league does not > give you special rights/privilieges, you are just 1 in 6 billions John, just > like evrybody else, and not worth more or less than everybody else. Go out, > watch the sky, watch the stars at night and think that YOU (and all the rest > of us) are VERY small...

You use up bandwidth by being too lazy to cut unnecessary text from your posts. Suggestion: get your own house in order!

Gerry Aitken wrote: > > David G Fisher wrote: >snip > > I agree. > > Gerry Look, a flying Pig !!! And is it just me or is getting very cold ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message news:3e4c23da$0$487$[email hidden]... > > your sierra ID !!" > > > > That's a one time thing really as the first race of the season is Sat..In > > another day or two the amount of posts will be cut waaay down. > > > > The thing is, RASCAR is for people who read this newsgroup, so if it's > > arrangement isn't posted here then how do it's readers (especially it's > > semi-regulars) get the opportunity to hear about it and join in? Somenew

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> > faces have joined simply because of the posts arranging the new season. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > Don't you think it would be a good idea to do it the "gpl rally" way ? > > They have set up a special forum just for that, they come here, annouce > "season is open" and then give you the link to their forum... > > I think it's much better for everybody, the people looking for "RASCAR > specific stuff" go to this forum and in the NG the topics are more

"general" > which of course does not prevent AT ALL John and the other RASCAR guys to > mention new stuff, dates, deadlines and so on, but why develop them here > instead of doing this in a nice forum where you could have screenshots, > setups, tweaks.... Isn't that GPL Rally just a one time thing? I don't know anything about it. I think Ed Solheim is setting up a RASCAR page with a forum that is going to be ready any day now. Then just the general stuff will be posted here like you suggest. RASCAR posts only bothered people for a bit last year when it was first being organized too. After that, the posts weren't that often at all. As has been said many times, if people just used their filter then this isn't an issue. I used to see posts all the time about GPL races (and league races) that I had no interest in but I just didn't read them. Sometimes I did. I didn't complain about them though. David G Fisher

-- The first ever pinball ezboard !! http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: [email hidden]... > > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message > news:3e4c23da$0$487$[email hidden]... > > > > your sierra ID !!" > > > > > > That's a one time thing really as the first race of the season is Sat.. > In > > > another day or two the amount of posts will be cut waaay down. > > > > > > The thing is, RASCAR is for people who read this newsgroup, so if it's > > > arrangement isn't posted here then how do it's readers (especially it's > > > semi-regulars) get the opportunity to hear about it and join in? Some > new > > > faces have joined simply because of the posts arranging the new season. > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > Don't you think it would be a good idea to do it the "gpl rally" way ? > > > > They have set up a special forum just for that, they come here, annouce > > "season is open" and then give you the link to their forum... > > > > I think it's much better for everybody, the people looking for "RASCAR > > specific stuff" go to this forum and in the NG the topics are more > "general" > > which of course does not prevent AT ALL John and the other RASCAR guys to > > mention new stuff, dates, deadlines and so on, but why develop them here > > instead of doing this in a nice forum where you could have screenshots, > > setups, tweaks.... > > Isn't that GPL Rally just a one time thing? I don't know anything about it. > > I think Ed Solheim is setting up a RASCAR page with a forum that is going to > be ready any day now. Then just the general stuff will be posted here like > you suggest. RASCAR posts only bothered people for a bit last year when it > was first being organized too. After that, the posts weren't that often at > all. > > As has been said many times, if people just used their filter then this > isn't an issue. I used to see posts all the time about GPL races (and league > races) that I had no interest in but I just didn't read them. Sometimes I > did. I didn't complain about them though. > > David G Fisher > The gpl rally is 16 stages through the year, they make new tracks for each stage, you download it, you drive it, you send your times....if only I had the time !!! I don't want to filter because sometimes there are interesting post with RASCAR or from the admins, but I'd rather not have EVERYTHING we've been having lately. Now if they are fixing a web page soon then it's perfect and surely problems like that won't happen again, and I hope you guys beat the crap out of each other racing those ovals !!!

On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:30:41 +0100, "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote: >well, I don't read them, but look at it this way, if EVERYBODY running a >league does the same then we have 500 new posts per day and let's say 450 >are of no interest to 95% of the people here...and frankly why would the >people running the "CROATIAN GPL F3 LEAGUE" have a lesser right to post >about their roster, rules, race summaries and so on. Right, but the other leagues aren't the officially sanctioned stock car league of rec.autos.simulators. So, really, even tho I have no interest in reading most of those threads, they're still on topic. =) Jason

Hehe :) Whip me with a wet decal :) A picture of Jeri Ryan would do nicely :) Larry "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <ykU2a.1963$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > Every other league isn't RASCAR, which is part of the RAS newsgroup. > > > > Dammit, people just aren't getting that John. > > > > Larry > > > > Let's try to maintain a little control Larry. You're not shoing any > respect for etiquette or other people's feelings... > > You're a BAD RASCAR driver... BAD! >

All our cars are equipped with Ejector Seats by rule :) Larry "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:acV2a.3319$[email hidden]... > "David G Fisher" wrote: > > > R.a.s. is about auto simulators, and supposedly the people who frequentthis > > newsgroup are very serious and enthusiastic about auto sims. Onlineracing > > is a key ingredient that most of us hope will be included in all autosims > > in the near future. It only makes sense then that we should get togetherand > > race each other, and then discuss those races here at r.a.s. > > You've caught up! > > Yep - agree with that. This was never a Papy Nascar sim only league IMO.Indeed > there were RAS passworded LFS races as I recall which all come under thesame > umbrella. Like a motor club with various events to discuss and organise(and > gossip about) > > The registration and roster bit adds some degree of scope for keeping out > wreckers who stumble across ras, and to feed John's obsession for paintingcars

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> and car numbers. > > Cheers > Tony > > > >

"Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:acV2a.3319$[email hidden]... > "David G Fisher" wrote: > > > R.a.s. is about auto simulators, and supposedly the people who frequentthis > > newsgroup are very serious and enthusiastic about auto sims. Onlineracing > > is a key ingredient that most of us hope will be included in all autosims > > in the near future. It only makes sense then that we should get togetherand > > race each other, and then discuss those races here at r.a.s. > > You've caught up! > > Yep - agree with that. This was never a Papy Nascar sim only league IMO.Indeed > there were RAS passworded LFS races as I recall which all come under thesame > umbrella. Like a motor club with various events to discuss and organise(and > gossip about) Yes, I hosted an ras server for LFS the week after the demo was first released. There were a couple of others too. If a sim has good online play then people here at ras could do the same thing we're doing with N2003. David G Fisher