Help: GPL core.ini parms for Intel Extreme video

Hi, Anybody had any exerience with the Intel Extreme (onboard) video and the Direct3d7 patch for GPL? oh yeah it's under XP too. I'm looking for recommended values for the sections: [ Int Profile Values ] and [ Direct3D7 ] many thanks.

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> Hi, > > Anybody had any exerience with the Intel Extreme (onboard) video and > the Direct3d7 patch for GPL? oh yeah it's under XP too. > > I'm looking for recommended values for the sections: > > [ Int Profile Values ] and [ Direct3D7 ]

Try this: [ Direct3D7 ] D3DDevice = 0 TossHighestMip = 0 DoubleMirrorResWidth = 1 DoubleMirrorResHeight = 1 DirectMirrorRendering = 1 DisableZBuffer = 0 AlphaThreshold = 1 TransparentMipsDrawOrder = 1 TrilinearFiltering = 0 AnisotropicFiltering = 4 LODBias = -75 I used to run these on my old Kyro2. You could try setting TilinearFiltering to 1, but it can make quite a difference on a slower system Aniso doesn't seem to make so much of a difference to the framerate, set it to 2 if it's too slow, or 8 for nicer texture filtering. The LODBias is more down to personal taste than performance really, I set it to -75 on my current Gf4, but imo if you don't have much filtering, set the LODBias closer to zero too, and vice versa. Malc.

Malc, Don't you mean "D3DDevice = 1"? --Steve "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:DLS2a.2246$Lq.221142@stones...

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> "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi, > > > > Anybody had any exerience with the Intel Extreme (onboard) video and > > the Direct3d7 patch for GPL? oh yeah it's under XP too. > > > > I'm looking for recommended values for the sections: > > > > [ Int Profile Values ] and [ Direct3D7 ] > > > Try this: > > [ Direct3D7 ] > D3DDevice = 0 > TossHighestMip = 0 > DoubleMirrorResWidth = 1 > DoubleMirrorResHeight = 1 > DirectMirrorRendering = 1 > DisableZBuffer = 0 > AlphaThreshold = 1 > TransparentMipsDrawOrder = 1 > TrilinearFiltering = 0 > AnisotropicFiltering = 4 > LODBias = -75 > > I used to run these on my old Kyro2. You could try setting

TilinearFiltering > to 1, but it can make quite a difference on a slower system > Aniso doesn't seem to make so much of a difference to the framerate, setit > to 2 if it's too slow, or 8 for nicer texture filtering. > > The LODBias is more down to personal taste than performance really, I setit > to -75 on my current Gf4, but imo if you don't have much filtering, setthe > LODBias closer to zero too, and vice versa. > > Malc. > >

"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IY23a.29056$[email hidden]... > Malc, > > Don't you mean "D3DDevice = 1"? > > --Steve That would only be needed for a Voodoo2 or similar addon card I think. If you only have one 3d device (as I do) I guess it makes no difference. I have mine set to 0 with a Gf4 and nothing else. Here's the relevant quote from the readmeD3D.txt: Adjustable Core.ini Options --------------------------- * D3DDevice = 0 If you have multiple 3D graphics cards in your machine, make sure GPL is using the graphics card you want to use. The rasterizer displays the name of the graphics card it is using at the top of the screen when GPL first runs. If it is not using the 3D card you want, then change this line to: D3DDevice = 1, or D3DDevice = 2, etc. It seems to be a bit ambiguous on the 'correct' setting, so you may have a point Steve. What made you think it should be 1? Malc.

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> "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:DLS2a.2246$Lq.221142@stones... > > Try this: > > > > [ Direct3D7 ] > > D3DDevice = 0 > > TossHighestMip = 0 > > DoubleMirrorResWidth = 1 > > DoubleMirrorResHeight = 1 > > DirectMirrorRendering = 1 > > DisableZBuffer = 0 > > AlphaThreshold = 1 > > TransparentMipsDrawOrder = 1 > > TrilinearFiltering = 0 > > AnisotropicFiltering = 4 > > LODBias = -75

> I used to run these on my old Kyro2. You could try setting TilinearFiltering > to 1, but it can make quite a difference on a slower system Thanks, there was some improvement but still no where near playable (< 10fps), any idea which parms are simple 1/0 and which have ranges that deal with performance. The motherboard has an AGP slot so I could disable the onboard and buy a Gforce (Recommendations? GF4 MX440?), but It's hard to beleive a modern D3D compliant board won't run GPL. Could XP be the factor?

Far and away the best video setup for GPL is a GF2 Ultra w. WillHerr's OpenGL patch. Nothing up to and including an ATI 9500 Pro and a GF4 4600 can touch it. You can find GF2 Ultras for abt. $50 in the remaindered bins. (Of course, it won't run new games like N2003, NOLF2, Gunmetal, and--cough--Bloodrayne, but yer not into that stuff, right?) "mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I used to run these on my old Kyro2. You could try settingTilinearFiltering

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> > to 1, but it can make quite a difference on a slower system > > Thanks, there was some improvement but still no where near playable (< > 10fps), any idea which parms are simple 1/0 and which have ranges that > deal with performance. > > The motherboard has an AGP slot so I could disable the onboard and buy > a Gforce (Recommendations? GF4 MX440?), but It's hard to beleive a > modern D3D compliant board won't run GPL. > > Could XP be the factor?

"mcewena" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I used to run these on my old Kyro2. You could try settingTilinearFiltering

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> > to 1, but it can make quite a difference on a slower system > > Thanks, there was some improvement but still no where near playable (< > 10fps), any idea which parms are simple 1/0 and which have ranges that > deal with performance. > > The motherboard has an AGP slot so I could disable the onboard and buy > a Gforce (Recommendations? GF4 MX440?), but It's hard to beleive a > modern D3D compliant board won't run GPL. > > Could XP be the factor?

Right, back to basics. I'm pretty sure your Intel graphics should run Dx7 graphics (like gpl) pretty well, although I think OpenGL support may not be good. If you are having framerate problems, the first thing to do is remove any add-on cars and track graphics. In most cases the tracks don't affect framerate much, but I had one problem with some Monaco trees that caused a localised slowdown on one part of the track. Confirm that you are using the latest D3D7 driver, there was an earlier one that wasn't as good. If you got the patch from your gpl CD, you have the new one. If your CD doesn't have the patch on it, go get it again from papy to make sure you have the latest one. Check that you have selected D3D7 in the options menu, and that you are not running it in software mode. Bring the resolution down, to 640x480 if you have to, and turn off things like smoke effects and so on. If each of these steps raises the framerate a little, and you can run it at 36fps (gpl doesn't go any higher) then your graphics card can't handle anything better, and you therefore need to look at getting a better graphics card. As Steve suggested, a Gf2 is easily good enough, and an MX440 should be okay too. Best performance/value is probably a Gf4 4200 though, but of course that's more expensive. If you have reduced everything right down and still see no improvement, you have a problem, either with gpl (unlikely, it's pretty stable) or windows (much more likely). Try disabling antialiasing, reduce anisotropic filtering, use bilinear instead of trilinear filtering and so on. You could also try assigning more memory to your graphics in the bios if that's an option. While you're in the bios, check that an IRQ is assigned to VGA too. It's pretty generalised advice, but at least it will tell you whether you really need to spend money, or just 'optimise' your system a bit. As an example of what gpl can run on, I have a Duron 800 with a Voodoo3 that is totally smooth with no add-on cars, and all but the latest versions of the Lotus and Brab will run okay on it. You're right, your system should be able to beat that. Malc.

> > Right, back to basics. I'm pretty sure your Intel graphics should run Dx7 > graphics (like gpl) pretty well, although I think OpenGL support may notbe > good. > Actually Intel has a current opengl driver for this board that works under XP (surprised me too). I'm guessing that there's less code involved for opengl then for DX8.1 under XP. > If you are having framerate problems, the first thing to do is remove any > add-on cars and track graphics. Original coventry at Spa for this test. > Confirm that you are using the latest D3D7 driver, Just downloaded from www.papy.com/downloads this week. > Check that you have selected D3D7 in the options menu, and that you arenot > running it in software mode. Yep > > Bring the resolution down, to 640x480 if you have to, and turn off things > like smoke effects and so on. Yep AKA mcewena

> Far and away the best video setup for GPL is a GF2 Ultra w. WillHerr's > OpenGL patch. Who?

"Art McEwen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:syd3a.63981$[email hidden]... > > Far and away the best video setup for GPL is a GF2 Ultra w. WillHerr's > > OpenGL patch. > > Who? http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37496&perpage=50& pagenumber=1 Malc.