Your recommendations.
/Igor
Best sound card for racing sims
Igor asked for sound card recommendations. Many avoided Creative cards because of driver problems, especially GPL crackling under Windows XP, and recommended the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz or Hercules cards, while others praised nForce2 onboard sound. The thread drifted into memories of first sound cards and Amiga and Atari machines.
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"Igor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Your recommendations.
>
> /Igor
>
A bit like ATI (drivers - but they're getting there)or Gainward (huge
numbers of returns) Gfx cards, IBM Hard drives ( had 6 at work. All 6 have
died), myself, I steer clear of the Sound Blaster range
I have a Hercules Game Theater XP - and it's fantastic
Doug
Turtle Beach/Santa Cruz
Doug Ellison wrote:
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> "Igor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:pYc4a.1976$[email hidden]... > >>Your recommendations. >> >>/Igor >> > > > A bit like ATI (drivers - but they're getting there)or Gainward (huge > numbers of returns) Gfx cards, IBM Hard drives ( had 6 at work. All 6 have > died), myself, I steer clear of the Sound Blaster range > > I have a Hercules Game Theater XP - and it's fantastic > > Doug > > I had a SB Live X-Game 1.5 that left a lot to be desired. The static
was more then I could bare. I've since switched to the onboard sound on my
Asus A7V333 motherboard, and it's static free.
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> Your recommendations.
>
> /Igor
>
>
"Igor" wrote...
> Your recommendations.
I have a SoundBlaster PCI512, which is a fairly old model, but still works
well with all games.
Jan.
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>Your recommendations.
>
To answer the question posed in your title, I use a SoundBlaster Live! card.
It works great, and I don't remember having any problems with it. As far as
recommendations, I don't have anything to compare it too, Sorry.
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>
Me too!!! I just switched from a SB Live 5.1 Gamer, to an Audigy 5.1
Gamer (haven't tried the Audigy 2), to a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz and
after a few tweaks, I love it! Music sounds better too!
And, the best part about the TB/SC card is that I got to uninstall all
the crap that Creative put on my hard drives!
I have Klipsch Pro Media 5.1 speakers, if that matters.
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>Doug Ellison wrote: >> "Igor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:pYc4a.1976$[email hidden]... >> >>>Your recommendations. >>> >>>/Igor >>> >> >> >> A bit like ATI (drivers - but they're getting there)or Gainward (huge >> numbers of returns) Gfx cards, IBM Hard drives ( had 6 at work. All 6 have >> died), myself, I steer clear of the Sound Blaster range >> >> I have a Hercules Game Theater XP - and it's fantastic >> >> Doug >> >>
> And, the best part about the TB/SC card is that I got to uninstall all
> the crap that Creative put on my hard drives!
Creative call them drivers - but most beg to differ.
:D
Doug
"Igor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<pYc4a.1976$[email hidden]>...
> Your recommendations.
Unlike Doug, I never had any problems with Creative (AWE 32, 128 PCI,
Live Value) until I went to WinXP where my Live and GPL *WOULD NOT*
co-operate. I tried *ALL* suggestions. I gave up on Creative and
went with a Hercules Fortissimo III. A whole new world of frustration
was opened up. The sound in GPL was improved but not fully rectified,
but worse it introduced real nasty GPL stutters. Tried everything I
could think of - switching between PCI slots, drivers, accelleration,
etc, etc, to no avail.
Tried on-board sound which worked for GPL but was just a mess with
N2K2.
I went back to Creative and bought an Audigy 2 and I'm glad I did...
I woulda tried a turtle beach SC as people rave about them around here
but couldn't find one. Is it a US only product?
Anyway, that's my experience. Your Mileage, as they say, May Vary.
Regards,
Mark
On 18 Feb 2003 02:10:37 -0800, [email hidden] (Mark)
wrote something like this:
>I woulda tried a turtle beach SC as people rave about them around here
>but couldn't find one. Is it a US only product?
It's sold as Videologic Sonic Fury in europe these days... it's
exactly the same card.
It's not completely GPL friendly either, not in WinXP anyway. You need
to set sound hardware acceleration to "basic" to get skid and shift
sounds audible...
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Hercules fortissimo 2, 4 years old, good stuff, and anyway it doesn't matter
much since you have to reduce the hardware acceleration to nothing otherwise
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> Your recommendations.
>
> /Igor
>
>
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<lTd4a.58211$[email hidden]>...
Onboard 5.1 dolby sound on the Asus A7N8X deluxe motherboard is not to
be sniffed at - sounds fabulous on mine, so I ditched my Hercules
Fortissimmo II.
Matt
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> "Igor" wrote... > > Your recommendations. > > I have a SoundBlaster PCI512, which is a fairly old model, but still works > well with all games. > > Jan. > =---
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> "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<lTd4a.58211$[email hidden]>...
> > "Igor" wrote...
> > > Your recommendations.
> >
> > I have a SoundBlaster PCI512, which is a fairly old model, but stillworks
Indeed - the nForce 2 sound chipset is superb - and having an integrated
solution gets rid of the world of pain of IRQ mlarkey
Doug
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> > well with all games. > > > > Jan. > > =--- > > Onboard 5.1 dolby sound on the Asus A7N8X deluxe motherboard is not to > be sniffed at - sounds fabulous on mine, so I ditched my Hercules > Fortissimmo II. >How much of a "draw" is put on the cpu? I typical don't use any onboard
devices because they leach cycles from the cpu.
MadDAWG
Anything, but Creative. And that goes double if you have a Geforce video
card.
I run the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card on one machine, and a Phillips AE
(706) on another. They both are great cards, but Phillips has poor driver
support. After reading about the Nforce2 sound I may have to try that too.
:)
MadDAWG
"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> How much of a "draw" is put on the cpu? I typical don't use any onboard
> devices because they leach cycles from the cpu.
>
> MadDAWG
>
> Well it can't be too much of a draw because the new N2Force boards like
the Asus mentioned eariler in the thread are now pretty much acknowledged
as the fastest AMD motherboards available. I still have such a built in
bias against the first Nforce card that I'm having trouble accepting
this...basically I have to tell myself the N2 boards are everything the
original Nforce mb's weren't.
dave henrie
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> How much of a "draw" is put on the cpu? I typical don't use any onboard
> devices because they leach cycles from the cpu.A PCI sound card also leaches cycles from the CPU. Dont be under the
impression that just because it's soldered on to the motherboard means it
doesnt fundamentally work 'the same'
as far as I can remember ( and you'll ahve to look back thru HardOCP.com
reviews I think) - using Quake 3 FPS ( at 640 x 480 so it's cpu limited)
with sound off, and then on - the Audigy 2 was a few percent MORE of a hit
than the nForce 2 ( yeah - I went "wtf? - you're kidding me - onboard sound
better than a PCI card - nahhhh" - but it's true - if I can find the reviews
I'll post here)
Hell yeah - the nForce 1 was a dog.
The nForce 2 is the very best ( and possibly last ) socket A solution there
is
Dog
Well it don't surprise me that its better than a Creative card lol Once
I get my computers hooked back up I'll have to give it a try. What the hell
its not like I gotta by anything.
MadDAWG
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz.
Solid hardware, solid drivers, NO PCI ISSUES!, and it plays nice with other
hardware.
Supports 5.1, Digital, and most common formats.
$79 Retail. Ya can't beat it.
Larry
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> Your recommendations.
>
> /Igor
>
>
LOL!
Larry
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> > > And, the best part about the TB/SC card is that I got to uninstall all > > the crap that Creative put on my hard drives! > > Creative call them drivers - but most beg to differ. > > :D > > > Doug > >Interesting... I don't believe I have that problem.
I'll double-check though.
Larry
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> On 18 Feb 2003 02:10:37 -0800, [email hidden] (Mark) > wrote something like this: > > >I woulda tried a turtle beach SC as people rave about them around here > >but couldn't find one. Is it a US only product? > > It's sold as Videologic Sonic Fury in europe these days... it's > exactly the same card. > > It's not completely GPL friendly either, not in WinXP anyway. You need > to set sound hardware acceleration to "basic" to get skid and shift > sounds audible... > -- > - JKo -If ya want all that Larry mentions and a little better sound at a higher
price then go with the Audigy2. I never had any problems with the Santa
Cruz though and can recommend it for the price. If quality sound is what
you want then the Audigy 2 has an edge. Im no audiophile by any stretch but
I can tell a difference for both MP3's and games. In NR2003 I run all
sounds including 3d and get no noticeable FPS hit. You can really pickup
the small ambient sounds while still getting the full roar of the engine. I
don't run any old software so I cant comment on whether GPL/F4 will work. I
paid $99 after a rebate and would say it's well worth $20 more than the SC,
although I got my SC for $49 almost a year ago.
Yeah yeah I know all about creative and there piss poor driver updates (had
em all since the original 8bit) but the Audigy 2 was designed for XP and XP
will be around till 05' so I feel pretty safe as far as compatibility for at
least 3 years. When longhorn ships my advice will be to wait on any
Creative purchases ;))
Mitch
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> Turtle Beach Santa Cruz.
>
> Solid hardware, solid drivers, NO PCI ISSUES!, and it plays nice withother
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> hardware. > > Supports 5.1, Digital, and most common formats. > > $79 Retail. Ya can't beat it. > > Larry > > "Igor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:pYc4a.1976$[email hidden]... > > Your recommendations. > > > > /Igor > > > > > >Same here: TBSC. Best sound card I've ever used. Low cpu utilization,
excellent stability, compatible with everything and sounds GREAT.
BTW, anyone remember buying their first sound card? I remember using the
built-in PC speaker (playing Wing Commander IIRC) until a guy at a computer
game store about 13 years ago convinced me that a sound card makes a big
difference. So I ran out and bought a sound blaster 16 (?) and slapped it
in my 286 12 Mhz speed demon. It's amazing how far we've come.
--
Joe M.
"Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Turtle Beach/Santa Cruz
>
> Doug Ellison wrote:
> > "Igor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:pYc4a.1976$[email hidden]...
> >
> >>Your recommendations.
> >>
> >>/Igor
> >>
> >
> >
> > A bit like ATI (drivers - but they're getting there)or Gainward (huge
> > numbers of returns) Gfx cards, IBM Hard drives ( had 6 at work. All 6
have
> > died), myself, I steer clear of the Sound Blaster range
> >
> > I have a Hercules Game Theater XP - and it's fantastic
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
>
I have a Hercules GameSurround II and Altec Lansing speakers; sounds amazing!
A friend of mine has a HGSIII with 5.1 Altecs and he says it's incredible.
- Tom N
Doug Ellison ([email hidden]) wrote:
: "Igor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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: > Your recommendations.
: >
: > /Igor
: >
: A bit like ATI (drivers - but they're getting there)or Gainward (huge
: numbers of returns) Gfx cards, IBM Hard drives ( had 6 at work. All 6 have
: died), myself, I steer clear of the Sound Blaster range
: I have a Hercules Game Theater XP - and it's fantastic
: Doug
I remember that too, however, mine was an Ad Lib card.
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> Same here: TBSC. Best sound card I've ever used. Low cpu utilization,
> excellent stability, compatible with everything and sounds GREAT.
>
> BTW, anyone remember buying their first sound card? I remember using the
> built-in PC speaker (playing Wing Commander IIRC) until a guy at acomputer
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> game store about 13 years ago convinced me that a sound card makes a big > difference. So I ran out and bought a sound blaster 16 (?) and slapped it > in my 286 12 Mhz speed demon. It's amazing how far we've come. > > -- > Joe M. > > > "Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:fkd4a.7799$[email hidden]... > > Turtle Beach/Santa Cruz > > > > Doug Ellison wrote: > > > "Igor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:pYc4a.1976$[email hidden]... > > > > > >>Your recommendations. > > >> > > >>/Igor > > >> > > > > > > > > > A bit like ATI (drivers - but they're getting there)or Gainward (huge > > > numbers of returns) Gfx cards, IBM Hard drives ( had 6 at work. All 6 > have > > > died), myself, I steer clear of the Sound Blaster range > > > > > > I have a Hercules Game Theater XP - and it's fantastic > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > >"Joe M." <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:
I was suprised that the PC NEEDED a soundcard. I came from the Amiga
school which had built in 4 channel sound. First card was a SB Pro...boy
did it feel dumb buying something that was included in my old system. Wing
Commander was the title that pushed me over to the PC world. About a year
after it was released for the PC, they finally ported it over to the Amiga.
they made NO attempt to optimize it, or adjust the color. Just a quick and
dirty port..like almost all PC ports for the AMiga, it ran like a dead PIG.
There was a wargame that included armour, jets, hovercraft,
helicopters..nothing fancy in the graphics arena but the framerate was
amazing. If you didn't find and shoot the oncomming jet it would zoom past
before you could even recognize it...Then loaded the next great thing from
the PC crowd and INSTANT SLIDE show...ah them were da days..
dave henrie
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> Same here: TBSC. Best sound card I've ever used. Low cpu > utilization, excellent stability, compatible with everything and > sounds GREAT. > > BTW, anyone remember buying their first sound card? I remember using > the built-in PC speaker (playing Wing Commander IIRC) until a guy at a > computer game store about 13 years ago convinced me that a sound card > makes a big difference. So I ran out and bought a sound blaster 16 > (?) and slapped it in my 286 12 Mhz speed demon. It's amazing how far > we've come. > > -- > Joe M.On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:56:59 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote
something like this:
>Turtle Beach Santa Cruz.
>
>Solid hardware, solid drivers, NO PCI ISSUES!, and it plays nice with other
>hardware.
But there are issues with GPL and Hitman 2 in WinXP. GPL issues are
easy to overcome, but with Hitman 2 it's either no music (which is
pretty essential in this game, IMO), or no hardware acceleration (hit
on fps and no 3D sounds).
Other than that, it's a great card. Couldn't notice any difference in
sound quality when compared to SB Live 5.1 though, but that's probably
due to my poor monitor speakers (Nokia 447XPro)... but I did get rid
of the stuttering in GPL when I ditched the SB card =)
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SB Live 5.1 Platinum with Live Drive IR on Win98SE. Deleted most of the
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"Igor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Your recommendations.
>
> /Igor
>
>
>Same here: TBSC. Best sound card I've ever used. Low cpu utilization,
>excellent stability, compatible with everything and sounds GREAT.
>
>BTW, anyone remember buying their first sound card?
Yup! It was also a Turtle Beach card and it would not work in my
brand new Gateway 400Mmhz dream machine! :-)
-pw
> I remember using the
>built-in PC speaker (playing Wing Commander IIRC) until a guy at a computer
>game store about 13 years ago convinced me that a sound card makes a big
>difference. So I ran out and bought a sound blaster 16 (?) and slapped it
>in my 286 12 Mhz speed demon. It's amazing how far we've come.
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> I was suprised that the PC NEEDED a soundcard. I came from the Amiga
>school which had built in 4 channel sound.
Amiga guy Dave? I was an Atari man all the way (800 -> 64 ->128 -->
ST 1024 (?)). Still have the ST in my closet with an non-working 20MB
hard drive and both a color and b&w monitor. I should try and boot it
up! I still remember the ST as having incredible graphics <g>
Those darn ex-Commodore owners ruined Atari!
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> On 18 Feb 2003 02:10:37 -0800, [email hidden] (Mark) > reckoned: > > > I gave up on Creative and > >went with a Hercules Fortissimo III. A whole new world of frustration > >was opened up. The sound in GPL was improved but not fully rectified, > >but worse it introduced real nasty GPL stutters. > > Hmm, I have a FortissimoII and never experienced those problems. You > did get the latest drivers, right?pw <
Odd how that worked out...Usually an Atari stayed Atari. We won't tell
anyone that Atari had first crack at the Amiga hardware and passed.
dave henrie
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> > Amiga guy Dave? I was an Atari man all the way (800 -> 64 ->128 --> > ST 1024 (?)). Still have the ST in my closet with an non-working 20MB > hard drive and both a color and b&w monitor. I should try and boot it > up! I still remember the ST as having incredible graphics <g> > > Those darn ex-Commodore owners ruined Atari! > > -pwOn Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:34:01 +0100, "Ed Solheim"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>Hercules Game Theather XP 6.1
I had one of those and it kicked ass. Currently running a Hercules
Fortissimo III 7.1 and it kicks ass as well. I could never say a bad
thing about either Hercules or Turtle Beach.
Jason
But it's a creative card :)
My Live! experiences have removed them from my list for a long, long time.
Larry
"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> If ya want all that Larry mentions and a little better sound at a higher
> price then go with the Audigy2. I never had any problems with the Santa
> Cruz though and can recommend it for the price. If quality sound is what
> you want then the Audigy 2 has an edge. Im no audiophile by any stretchbut
> I can tell a difference for both MP3's and games. In NR2003 I run all
> sounds including 3d and get no noticeable FPS hit. You can really pickup
> the small ambient sounds while still getting the full roar of the engine.I
> don't run any old software so I cant comment on whether GPL/F4 will work.I
> paid $99 after a rebate and would say it's well worth $20 more than theSC,
> although I got my SC for $49 almost a year ago.
>
> Yeah yeah I know all about creative and there piss poor driver updates(had
> em all since the original 8bit) but the Audigy 2 was designed for XP andXP
> will be around till 05' so I feel pretty safe as far as compatibility forat
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> least 3 years. When longhorn ships my advice will be to wait on any > Creative purchases ;)) > > > Mitch > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Ltu4a.33284$[email hidden]... > > Turtle Beach Santa Cruz. > > > > Solid hardware, solid drivers, NO PCI ISSUES!, and it plays nice with > other > > hardware. > > > > Supports 5.1, Digital, and most common formats. > > > > $79 Retail. Ya can't beat it. > > > > Larry > > > > "Igor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:pYc4a.1976$[email hidden]... > > > Your recommendations. > > > > > > /Igor > > > > > > > > > > > >My first sound card was a funky Music board for my TRS-80 Model 1 some 20
years ago :)
Larry
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> Same here: TBSC. Best sound card I've ever used. Low cpu utilization,
> excellent stability, compatible with everything and sounds GREAT.
>
> BTW, anyone remember buying their first sound card? I remember using the
> built-in PC speaker (playing Wing Commander IIRC) until a guy at acomputer
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> game store about 13 years ago convinced me that a sound card makes a big > difference. So I ran out and bought a sound blaster 16 (?) and slapped it > in my 286 12 Mhz speed demon. It's amazing how far we've come. > > -- > Joe M. > > > "Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:fkd4a.7799$[email hidden]... > > Turtle Beach/Santa Cruz > > > > Doug Ellison wrote: > > > "Igor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:pYc4a.1976$[email hidden]... > > > > > >>Your recommendations. > > >> > > >>/Igor > > >> > > > > > > > > > A bit like ATI (drivers - but they're getting there)or Gainward (huge > > > numbers of returns) Gfx cards, IBM Hard drives ( had 6 at work. All 6 > have > > > died), myself, I steer clear of the Sound Blaster range > > > > > > I have a Hercules Game Theater XP - and it's fantastic > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > >No GPL/WinXP issues here.
Larry
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> On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:56:59 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote
> something like this:
>
> >Turtle Beach Santa Cruz.
> >
> >Solid hardware, solid drivers, NO PCI ISSUES!, and it plays nice withother
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> >hardware. > > But there are issues with GPL and Hitman 2 in WinXP. GPL issues are > easy to overcome, but with Hitman 2 it's either no music (which is > pretty essential in this game, IMO), or no hardware acceleration (hit > on fps and no 3D sounds). > > Other than that, it's a great card. Couldn't notice any difference in > sound quality when compared to SB Live 5.1 though, but that's probably > due to my poor monitor speakers (Nokia 447XPro)... but I did get rid > of the stuttering in GPL when I ditched the SB card =) > -- > - JKo -I think that's because they run the same chipset and basic reference
hardware :)
Larry
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> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:34:01 +0100, "Ed Solheim" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Hercules Game Theather XP 6.1 > > I had one of those and it kicked ass. Currently running a Hercules > Fortissimo III 7.1 and it kicks ass as well. I could never say a bad > thing about either Hercules or Turtle Beach. > > JasonGood to hear. Which drivers are you using? And do you have sound
hardware acceleration set to "full"? And skid & shift sounds are fully
audible?
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- JKo -
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>No GPL/WinXP issues here. > >Larry > >"Jussi Koukku" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:56:59 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote >> something like this: >> >> >Turtle Beach Santa Cruz. >> > >> >Solid hardware, solid drivers, NO PCI ISSUES!, and it plays nice with >other >> >hardware. >> >> But there are issues with GPL and Hitman 2 in WinXP. GPL issues are >> easy to overcome, but with Hitman 2 it's either no music (which is >> pretty essential in this game, IMO), or no hardware acceleration (hit >> on fps and no 3D sounds). >> >> Other than that, it's a great card. Couldn't notice any difference in >> sound quality when compared to SB Live 5.1 though, but that's probably >> due to my poor monitor speakers (Nokia 447XPro)... but I did get rid >> of the stuttering in GPL when I ditched the SB card =) >> -- >> - JKo - >No sound card, here. :)
I use a set of Plantronics DSP-500 digital USB headphones. Less
hardware, less software and less drivers makes for a happier windows
user.
"John E. Crouse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> No sound card, here. :)
> I use a set of Plantronics DSP-500 digital USB headphones. Less
> hardware, less software and less drivers makes for a happier windows
> user.
Not at the expense of performance. Have you measured the cpu utilization
and fps hit? I know the TBSC soundcard has just about the lowest cpu
utilization at 3-5% for most benchmarks, I wouldn't expect an external USB
sound device to be less. Any idea?
--
Joe M.
Never took the time to do so.
Sorry,
John


































