New ISI F1 sim?

I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using their 99/00/01/02 licenses. Anyone know if this is a new ISI product with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details? Jason

"Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details? LMFAO !!!!! They've 'evolved' their engine since F1 2000 to 2000 CS, to 2001, to 2002, to their Nascar line, and then on to this. Netcode will still be arse, gfx a bit inefficient, controller setup still troublesome for some, physics a little questionable in places, tracks inaccurate. Doug

Why are you "LMFAO"? ISI did a NASCAR line? You don't even know what the hell you are talking about. Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about? EA used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one. Also, F12002's physics may not be perfect, but it's the best F1 sim out there. People with proper computers and controllers have no problem with the "gfx a bit inefficient, controller setup still troublesome for some" Are you still Laughing your ass off? Joe "Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:K3U4a.4455$Vx2.404781@wards...

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> > "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details? > > LMFAO !!!!! > > They've 'evolved' their engine since F1 2000 to 2000 CS, to 2001, to 2002, > to their Nascar line, and then on to this. > > Netcode will still be arse, gfx a bit inefficient, controller setup still > troublesome for some, physics a little questionable in places, tracks > inaccurate. > > Doug > >

> Are you still Laughing your ass off? Even more now. Doug

figured that's all you'd come up with. A guy asks a legit question and you try to make him look stupid. The only one you made look stupid is yourself. Keep laughing. Joe "Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MGU4a.4903$Lq.428907@stones...

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> > > Are you still Laughing your ass off? > > Even more now. > > Doug > >

"Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote in message news:b3156k$3uf$[email hidden]... > figured that's all you'd come up with. > A guy asks a legit question and you try to make him look stupid. The only > one you made look stupid is yourself. Keep laughing. I am Hope you'll have the character to do the same when it's released. Doug

Thought I'd entertain you with a slightly more verbose response.... "Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote in message news:b313rj$oo1$[email hidden]... > Why are you "LMFAO"? > ISI did a NASCAR line?Their engine did. They developed the engine incrementally - one increment being a Nascar title. >You don't even know what the hell you are talking > about.OK - fair enough. Do you? >Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about?Yup >EA > used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one.It's ISI's engine. ISI developed it. It's an increment of the same engine that powered all it's F1 titles before, and this one to come. Developments that will show within the new F1 title over the older F1 titles, will probably have come about as a result of the increment involved in the Nascar title. > Also, F12002's > physics may not be perfect,How true > but it's the best F1 sim out there.Sadly. Doesnt mean it's good. Technically you could consider GPL an F1 sim - and in terms of graphics ( with all the modern updates ), controllers, net code, physics - tips any ISI/EA title into a hat. >People with > proper computers OOO - bitchy arnt we? Athlon 2200, Asus A7N8X, 2x Corsair DDR3200 512mb Ram, Hercules Game Theater XP. I'd suggest thats fairly 'proper'. >and controllershttp://www.djellison.plus.com/rig_cf.jpg Probably the worlds best publicly availabel FF wheel, and imho, the best pedals available. Yup - fairly 'proper' >have no problem with the "gfx a bit > inefficient, controller setup still troublesome for some" Indeed they do. Infact, I have very good controller and GFX performance within F12k2. However - a huge percentage have problems with controllers. The controller system within ISI's titles is totally pathetic. Compare to a Papyrus title. I'm NOT a papy fan boy - BUT, their controller system is simple, efficient, effective, works first time every time. Ash McConnell's just about the only other chap to have come close - and perhaps NetKar as well - but ISI are doing as well with their controller setup code as they are with their Netcode. It's basically - funny. To suggest otherwise is chronic ignornace, stupidity, or lying. Take your pick. > Are you still Laughing your ass off?Not as much -it's not quite as fun having to explain exactly where you're so missguided - but - yeah - I think I'm still laughing quite a bit Doug

Nope, it appears to be console only. The Xbox sites have a post similar to the one on BHMotorsports, but BHMotorsports left out this important line: F1 Career Challenge* - the first major innovation in FORMULA ONE games for many years, will ship in April for the PlayStation�2 computer entertainment system, the Xbox video game system by Microsoft and the Nintendo GameCube. "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using > their 99/00/01/02 licenses. Anyone know if this is a new ISI product > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details? > > Jason

Whatever, all that crap you wrote is still no excuse to be a dick...... Joe "Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RpV4a.4473$Vx2.406196@wards...

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> Thought I'd entertain you with a slightly more verbose response.... > > > "Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:b313rj$oo1$[email hidden]... > > Why are you "LMFAO"? > > ISI did a NASCAR line? > Their engine did. They developed the engine incrementally - one increment > being a Nascar title. > > > >You don't even know what the hell you are talking > > about. > OK - fair enough. Do you? > > >Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about? > Yup > > >EA > > used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one. > It's ISI's engine. ISI developed it. It's an increment of the same engine > that powered all it's F1 titles before, and this one to come. Developments > that will show within the new F1 title over the older F1 titles, will > probably have come about as a result of the increment involved in the

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> title. > > > Also, F12002's > > physics may not be perfect, > How true > > > but it's the best F1 sim out there. > Sadly. Doesnt mean it's good. Technically you could consider GPL an F1

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> and in terms of graphics ( with all the modern updates ), controllers, net > code, physics - tips any ISI/EA title into a hat. > > > >People with > > proper computers > > OOO - bitchy arnt we? > Athlon 2200, Asus A7N8X, 2x Corsair DDR3200 512mb Ram, Hercules Game

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> XP. I'd suggest thats fairly 'proper'. > > >and controllers > http://www.djellison.plus.com/rig_cf.jpg > Probably the worlds best publicly availabel FF wheel, and imho, the best > pedals available. Yup - fairly 'proper' > > > >have no problem with the "gfx a bit > > inefficient, controller setup still troublesome for some" > > Indeed they do. Infact, I have very good controller and GFX performance > within F12k2. However - a huge percentage have problems with controllers. > The controller system within ISI's titles is totally pathetic. Compare to

a > Papyrus title. I'm NOT a papy fan boy - BUT, their controller system is > simple, efficient, effective, works first time every time. AshMcConnell's

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> just about the only other chap to have come close - and perhaps NetKar as > well - but ISI are doing as well with their controller setup code as they > are with their Netcode. It's basically - funny. > > To suggest otherwise is chronic ignornace, stupidity, or lying. Take your > pick. > > > Are you still Laughing your ass off? > Not as much -it's not quite as fun having to explain exactly where you're

so > missguided - but - yeah - I think I'm still laughing quite a bit > > Doug > >

A few more details here: http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=4125 and here: http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=4124. Seems pretty clear it is console only, based on their previous console F1 title. "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b3195l$1hd7k0$[email hidden]... > Nope, it appears to be console only. The Xbox sites have a post similarto > the one on BHMotorsports, but BHMotorsports left out this important line: > > F1 Career Challenge* - the first major innovation in FORMULA ONE games for > many years, will ship in April for the PlayStation�2 computerentertainment

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> system, the Xbox video game system by Microsoft and the Nintendo GameCube. > > > > "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using > > their 99/00/01/02 licenses. Anyone know if this is a new ISI product > > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details? > > > > Jason > >

"Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote in message news:b3199q$dep$[email hidden]... > Whatever, all that crap you wrote is still no excuse to be a dick...... Oh dearey me. Confusing facts for 'crap' Confusing suggesting that ISI's next F1 title will be nothing spectacularly different to what has gone before with "being a dick" And confusing me for someone who really cares WHAT you think. Doug

Well the las t line of the BHMS article reads as follows "F1 Career Challenge for PC is scheduled to ship in April 2003." So, unless they are wrong, it looks to be a PC title as well. Kind of a crafty way to make a new game and not have to pay a licensing fee. I guess some people think ISI/F12xxx series sucks, but I think it's great! It's physics are OK by me. It's not 1967 in those games. Joe "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b3195l$1hd7k0$[email hidden]... > Nope, it appears to be console only. The Xbox sites have a post similarto > the one on BHMotorsports, but BHMotorsports left out this important line: > > F1 Career Challenge* - the first major innovation in FORMULA ONE games for > many years, will ship in April for the PlayStation�2 computerentertainment

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> system, the Xbox video game system by Microsoft and the Nintendo GameCube. > > > > "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using > > their 99/00/01/02 licenses. Anyone know if this is a new ISI product > > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details? > > > > Jason > >

OK, then it's been a pleasure, bye bye..... J "Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5VV4a.4477$Vx2.407151@wards...

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> > "Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:b3199q$dep$[email hidden]... > > Whatever, all that crap you wrote is still no excuse to be a dick...... > > Oh dearey me. > > Confusing facts for 'crap' > > Confusing suggesting that ISI's next F1 title will be nothing

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> different to what has gone before with "being a dick" > > And confusing me for someone who really cares WHAT you think. > > > Doug > > >

"Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote in message news:b31apk$ii7$[email hidden]... > OK, then it's been a pleasure, bye bye..... >God DAMN I love a good flame war Doug

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:13:25 -0500, "Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote: > It's not 1967 in those games. Pity, too. Nothing like driving F1 cars when they were still cars and not carbon fiber computer-assisted tubs with wings. Jason

"Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:13:25 -0500, "Joe Saxon" > <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote: > > > It's not 1967 in those games. > > Pity, too. Nothing like driving F1 cars when they were still cars and > not carbon fiber computer-assisted tubs with wings.

They had better netcode in 1967 as well :D Doug

Hey, what kind of peds are those? Doug Ellison wrote:

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> Thought I'd entertain you with a slightly more verbose response.... > > "Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote in message > news:b313rj$oo1$[email hidden]... > > Why are you "LMFAO"? > > ISI did a NASCAR line? > Their engine did. They developed the engine incrementally - one increment > being a Nascar title. > > >You don't even know what the hell you are talking > > about. > OK - fair enough. Do you? > > >Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about? > Yup > > >EA > > used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one. > It's ISI's engine. ISI developed it. It's an increment of the same engine > that powered all it's F1 titles before, and this one to come. Developments > that will show within the new F1 title over the older F1 titles, will > probably have come about as a result of the increment involved in the Nascar > title. > > > Also, F12002's > > physics may not be perfect, > How true > > > but it's the best F1 sim out there. > Sadly. Doesnt mean it's good. Technically you could consider GPL an F1 sim - > and in terms of graphics ( with all the modern updates ), controllers, net > code, physics - tips any ISI/EA title into a hat. > > >People with > > proper computers > > OOO - bitchy arnt we? > Athlon 2200, Asus A7N8X, 2x Corsair DDR3200 512mb Ram, Hercules Game Theater > XP. I'd suggest thats fairly 'proper'. > > >and controllers > http://www.djellison.plus.com/rig_cf.jpg > Probably the worlds best publicly availabel FF wheel, and imho, the best > pedals available. Yup - fairly 'proper' > > >have no problem with the "gfx a bit > > inefficient, controller setup still troublesome for some" > > Indeed they do. Infact, I have very good controller and GFX performance > within F12k2. However - a huge percentage have problems with controllers. > The controller system within ISI's titles is totally pathetic. Compare to a > Papyrus title. I'm NOT a papy fan boy - BUT, their controller system is > simple, efficient, effective, works first time every time. Ash McConnell's > just about the only other chap to have come close - and perhaps NetKar as > well - but ISI are doing as well with their controller setup code as they > are with their Netcode. It's basically - funny. > > To suggest otherwise is chronic ignornace, stupidity, or lying. Take your > pick. > > > Are you still Laughing your ass off? > Not as much -it's not quite as fun having to explain exactly where you're so > missguided - but - yeah - I think I'm still laughing quite a bit > > Doug

Hey, what kind of peds are those?

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> Thought I'd entertain you with a slightly more verbose response.... > > Why are you "LMFAO"? > > ISI did a NASCAR line? > Their engine did. They developed the engine incrementally - one increment > being a Nascar title. > >You don't even know what the hell you are talking > > about. > OK - fair enough. Do you? > >Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about? > Yup > >EA > > used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one. > It's ISI's engine. ISI developed it. It's an increment of the same engine > that powered all it's F1 titles before, and this one to come. Developments > that will show within the new F1 title over the older F1 titles, will > probably have come about as a result of the increment involved in the Nascar > title. > > Also, F12002's > > physics may not be perfect, > How true > > but it's the best F1 sim out there. > Sadly. Doesnt mean it's good. Technically you could consider GPL an F1 sim - > and in terms of graphics ( with all the modern updates ), controllers, net > code, physics - tips any ISI/EA title into a hat. > >People with > > proper computers > OOO - ***y arnt we? > Athlon 2200, Asus A7N8X, 2x Corsair DDR3200 512mb Ram, Hercules Game Theater > XP. I'd suggest thats fairly 'proper'. > >and controllers > http://www.djellison.plus.com/rig_cf.jpg > Probably the worlds best publicly availabel FF wheel, and imho, the best > pedals available. Yup - fairly 'proper' > >have no problem with the "gfx a bit > > inefficient, controller setup still troublesome for some" > Indeed they do. Infact, I have very good controller and GFX performance > within F12k2. However - a huge percentage have problems with controllers. > The controller system within ISI's titles is totally pathetic. Compare to a > Papyrus title. I'm NOT a papy fan boy - BUT, their controller system is > simple, efficient, effective, works first time every time. Ash McConnell's > just about the only other chap to have come close - and perhaps NetKar as > well - but ISI are doing as well with their controller setup code as they > are with their Netcode. It's basically - funny. > To suggest otherwise is chronic ignornace, stupidity, or lying. Take your > pick. > > Are you still Laughing your ass off? > Not as much -it's not quite as fun having to explain exactly where you're so > missguided - but - yeah - I think I'm still laughing quite a bit > Doug

They're BRD Speed7 Pedals: http://www.interactiveracing.com/ Sweet looking but pricey. Seem the be considered the best pedal set on the market. -- Joe M. "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hey, what kind of peds are those? > > > > Doug Ellison wrote: > > > Thought I'd entertain you with a slightly more verbose response.... > > > > "Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote in message > > news:b313rj$oo1$[email hidden]... > > > Why are you "LMFAO"? > > > ISI did a NASCAR line? > > Their engine did. They developed the engine incrementally - one increment > > being a Nascar title. > > > > >You don't even know what the hell you are talking > > > about. > > OK - fair enough. Do you? > > > > >Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about? > > Yup > > > > >EA > > > used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one. > > It's ISI's engine. ISI developed it. It's an increment of the same engine > > that powered all it's F1 titles before, and this one to come. Developments > > that will show within the new F1 title over the older F1 titles, will > > probably have come about as a result of the increment involved in the Nascar > > title. > > > > > Also, F12002's > > > physics may not be perfect, > > How true > > > > > but it's the best F1 sim out there. > > Sadly. Doesnt mean it's good. Technically you could consider GPL an F1 sim - > > and in terms of graphics ( with all the modern updates ), controllers, net > > code, physics - tips any ISI/EA title into a hat. > > > > >People with > > > proper computers > > > > OOO - bitchy arnt we? > > Athlon 2200, Asus A7N8X, 2x Corsair DDR3200 512mb Ram, Hercules Game Theater > > XP. I'd suggest thats fairly 'proper'. > > > > >and controllers > > http://www.djellison.plus.com/rig_cf.jpg > > Probably the worlds best publicly availabel FF wheel, and imho, the best > > pedals available. Yup - fairly 'proper' > > > > >have no problem with the "gfx a bit > > > inefficient, controller setup still troublesome for some" > > > > Indeed they do. Infact, I have very good controller and GFX performance > > within F12k2. However - a huge percentage have problems with controllers. > > The controller system within ISI's titles is totally pathetic. Compare to a > > Papyrus title. I'm NOT a papy fan boy - BUT, their controller system is > > simple, efficient, effective, works first time every time. Ash McConnell's > > just about the only other chap to have come close - and perhaps NetKar as > > well - but ISI are doing as well with their controller setup code as they > > are with their Netcode. It's basically - funny. > > > > To suggest otherwise is chronic ignornace, stupidity, or lying. Take your > > pick. > > > > > Are you still Laughing your ass off? > > Not as much -it's not quite as fun having to explain exactly where you're so > > missguided - but - yeah - I think I'm still laughing quite a bit > > > > Doug >

Jason Moyer wrote: > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using > their 99/00/01/02 licenses. Anyone know if this is a new ISI product > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details? > > Jason So let me get this straight, this will be the 4th F1 sim that EA has released in the time that it's taken the West brothers to hand out business cards at an auto show six months ago? ISI must not spend enough time writing, and rewriting, and rewriting their physics engine.

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> "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:13:25 -0500, "Joe Saxon" >><joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> >>>It's not 1967 in those games. >> >>Pity, too. Nothing like driving F1 cars when they were still cars and >>not carbon fiber computer-assisted tubs with wings. > > > They had better netcode in 1967 as well >

67 was good year. Wasn't that when WSC was first announced?

"Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... : Jason Moyer wrote: : > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using : > their 99/00/01/02 licenses. Anyone know if this is a new ISI product : > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details? : > : > Jason : 'an auto show' Anyone who refers to the G.f.o.S as "an auto show" really doesnt know what they're talking about. Why the anon. postin "internet user" If you have something to say - why do you need to hide? Doug

well joe I'll wait and see the product to decide if it's bad or good but for ALL the existing EA F1 games the controller dead zone has been a SERIOUS problem, F12001 was UNPLAYABLE with my ACTLABS Force RS because of this, it's better in F12002 but still WAY behing GPL for example.... -- The first ever pinball ezboard !! http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY "Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> a �crit dans le message de news: b3156k$3uf$[email hidden]... > figured that's all you'd come up with. > A guy asks a legit question and you try to make him look stupid. The only > one you made look stupid is yourself. Keep laughing. > > Joe > > > "Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:MGU4a.4903$Lq.428907@stones... > > > > > Are you still Laughing your ass off? > > > > Even more now. > > > > Doug > > > > > >

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> "Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > : Jason Moyer wrote: > : > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using > : > their 99/00/01/02 licenses. Anyone know if this is a new ISI product > : > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details? > : > > : > Jason > : > 'an auto show' > > Anyone who refers to the G.f.o.S as "an auto show" really doesnt know what > they're talking about. > > Why the anon. postin "internet user" > > If you have something to say - why do you need to hide? > > Doug

Let's see.... classic cars, driven around a classic track, by classic drivers in uncompetitive races. This describes both Goodwood and the Monterey Historics. It's an auto show. I don't have anything to hide at all. This is my monikor "Internet User". Been posting for over a year with the same name. Why is "Internet User" anymore anonymous than "Doug Ellison"? Was Mark Twain anonymous because didn't write under his own name?

"Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... : Doug Ellison wrote: : > "Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message : > news:[email hidden]... : > : Jason Moyer wrote: : > : > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using : > : > their 99/00/01/02 licenses. Anyone know if this is a new ISI product : > : > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details? : > : > : > : > Jason : > : : > 'an auto show' : > : > Anyone who refers to the G.f.o.S as "an auto show" really doesnt know what : > they're talking about. : > : > Why the anon. postin "internet user" : > : > If you have something to say - why do you need to hide? : > : > Doug : : Let's see.... classic cars, And modern. : driven around a classic track, A hill climb, not a classic track. :by classic drivers Drivers of all ages actually. Jenson Button to John Surtees. :in uncompetitive races Some chose to be competative - some chose to race against the clock. Alan McNish particularly 'cained' it up the hill in the '02 Toyota F1 Chassis. Most impressive. :This describes both Goodwood.... REVIVAL. not the Festival of Speed. So - I was right, you really DONT know what you're talking about. :It's an auto show. Whatever. I suppose Le Mans is just a camping holiday and Monaco just a booze cruise then ?? You dont know anything about the Festival of Speed, and you dont know anything about RL ( as you've confused it in two seperate posts as the same project as WSC - which it is not.). Doug

Wow, I have the same wheel and have no problem under Win2K and when I had 98SE I used DX Tweak off of Logitech's website. Joe "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in message news:3e54b090$0$222$[email hidden]... > well joe > > I'll wait and see the product to decide if it's bad or good but for ALLthe > existing EA F1 games the controller dead zone has been a SERIOUS problem, > F12001 was UNPLAYABLE with my ACTLABS Force RS because of this, it'sbetter

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> in F12002 but still WAY behing GPL for example.... > > > > -- > The first ever pinball ezboard !! > http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball > > SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE -

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> FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS > BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N > SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON > WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY > > "Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> a �crit dans le message de > news: b3156k$3uf$[email hidden]... > > figured that's all you'd come up with. > > A guy asks a legit question and you try to make him look stupid. The

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> > one you made look stupid is yourself. Keep laughing. > > > > Joe > > > > > > "Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:MGU4a.4903$Lq.428907@stones... > > > > > > > Are you still Laughing your ass off? > > > > > > Even more now. > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > > >

"Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Doug Ellison wrote: > > "Internet User" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > : Jason Moyer wrote: > > : > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using > > : > their 99/00/01/02 licenses. Anyone know if this is a new ISIproduct

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> > : > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details? > > : > > > : > Jason > > : > > 'an auto show' > > > > Anyone who refers to the G.f.o.S as "an auto show" really doesnt know

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> > they're talking about. > > > > Why the anon. postin "internet user" > > > > If you have something to say - why do you need to hide? > > > > Doug > > Let's see.... classic cars, driven around a classic track, by classic > drivers in uncompetitive races. This describes both Goodwood and the > Monterey Historics. It's an auto show. > > I don't have anything to hide at all. This is my monikor "Internet > User". Been posting for over a year with the same name. Why is > "Internet User" anymore anonymous than "Doug Ellison"? Was Mark Twain > anonymous because didn't write under his own name? >

Because when Doug doesn't have the answer he changes the subject. ;0) It's ironic that he mocks ISI for creating an ever improving simulation (admittedly with some nagging issues) yet defends the vaporware brothers of Urban Racing Legends. -- Joe M. (last name concealed to create a diversion)

On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:06:58 -0000, Doug Ellison wrote: > And confusing me for someone who really cares WHAT you think. and he top-posts / full quotes like someone stuck with LookOut and no mouse! Eeek ;-) Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

: It's ironic that he mocks ISI for creating an ever improving simulation : (admittedly with some nagging issues) yet defends the vaporware brothers of : Urban Racing Legends. I mock the nagging issues - not the F1 series. IN terms of modern F1 - F12k2 is as good as it gets. In many areas it's very sound - but in terms of Netcode and Controller setup - they're being thrashed to a pulp by a 4 year old title. Rather tragic isnt it? As for defending West Bros - load of old toss - RL will defend itself perfectly well on release. I will, however - put people straight were they're spreading miss information, lies etc. Doug

What lies and misinformation have been spread?? Joe "Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b32prn$1huf5g$[email hidden]...

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> > : It's ironic that he mocks ISI for creating an ever improving simulation > : (admittedly with some nagging issues) yet defends the vaporware brothers > of > : Urban Racing Legends. > > I mock the nagging issues - not the F1 series. IN terms of modern F1 -

F12k2 > is as good as it gets. In many areas it's very sound - but in terms of > Netcode and Controller setup - they're being thrashed to a pulp by a 4year

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> old title. Rather tragic isnt it? > > As for defending West Bros - load of old toss - RL will defend itself > perfectly well on release. I will, however - put people straight were > they're spreading miss information, lies etc. > > Doug > >

Gee, think he can't figure out I top post?? What an ass you are as well, Oh no, he uses out look, burn him!! He must be an idiot! Cheers (no, that doesn't sound Euro fag, now does it?) Joe "Uwe hoover Schuerkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 01:06:58 -0000, Doug Ellison wrote: > > > And confusing me for someone who really cares WHAT you think. > > and he top-posts / full quotes like someone stuck with LookOut > and no mouse! Eeek ;-) > > Cheers, > > uwe > > > > -- > mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) > Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ > Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) > GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

> > Cheers (no, that doesn't sound Euro fag, now does it?) > > Joe > > What a witty retort ;)

"Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote in message news:b32qf2$t3d$[email hidden]... : What lies and misinformation have been spread?? Some of the larger bullshit stories bandered around here 1) It's a complete hoax 2) It's WSC by another name 3) They'll charge extra for basic stuff like weather and damage 4) It'll only have one car and one track 5) They're hyping it up beyond whats feasable. 6) They'll never pull it off - they've not got the talent Plenty of other shite gets talked about Chris and Tony, and their project as well. All un founded, all un necessary. Doug

"Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b32prn$1huf5g$[email hidden]...

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> > : It's ironic that he mocks ISI for creating an ever improving simulation > : (admittedly with some nagging issues) yet defends the vaporware brothers > of > : Urban Racing Legends. > > I mock the nagging issues - not the F1 series. IN terms of modern F1 -

F12k2 > is as good as it gets. In many areas it's very sound - but in terms of > Netcode and Controller setup - they're being thrashed to a pulp by a 4year > old title. Rather tragic isnt it? > Fair enough. Perhaps your original "LMFAO !!!!!" was a bit over the top (and lack of any positive comments). It was hard to see your appreciation for the underlying game given that intro. > > As for defending West Bros - load of old toss - RL will defend itself > perfectly well on release. I will, however - put people straight were > they're spreading miss information, lies etc. > I know you're rightfully defending RL against the lies (and sometimes against reasonable doubts), I just couldn't resist the jab since you didn't offer any positive points in your ISI posts so I was defending ISI. -- Joe M.

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> > They're BRD Speed7 Pedals: > > http://www.interactiveracing.com/ > > Sweet looking but pricey. Seem the be considered the best pedal set on the > market.

2nd best.....:-) Nigel Nichols for president !!! Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

Jesus Doug, you're an uptight jerk. Just my opinion of course.

"Marc Goldstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9Ec5a.17476$[email hidden]... : Jesus Doug, you're an uptight jerk. Just my opinion of course. Thanks - much appreciated. Doug

On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:05:22 -0500, Joe Saxon wrote: lots of gibberish not worth repeating here. *plonk* Bye, uwe

> What lies and misinformation have been spread?? That GPL is a 4 year old title - it's actually a 5 year old title. ;-D

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:26:50 -0500, "Joe Saxon" <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote: >Why are you "LMFAO"? >ISI did a NASCAR line? You don't even know what the hell you are talking >about. Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about? EA >used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one. Check the credits in the game. Also check their website: http://www.imagespaceinc.com/ Tiburion did the console one, ISI did the PC one. Jason

So even on there own site they say that they provided the engine and then provide a link to the "DEVELOPER" Tiburon ?? What does that mean, why credit another developer when your company did it? Joe "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 18:26:50 -0500, "Joe Saxon" > <joesaxon@!nospam!mindspring.com> wrote: > > >Why are you "LMFAO"? > >ISI did a NASCAR line? You don't even know what the hell you are talking > >about. Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about?EA

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> >used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one. > > Check the credits in the game. Also check their website: > > http://www.imagespaceinc.com/ > > Tiburion did the console one, ISI did the PC one. > > Jason