getting out of sim auto racing

Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing after trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. I've moved on to turn based games like chess and Civilization 4, which neither require a super powerful computer nor lightening fast reflexes. Neither of which I no longer have. I thought that before I put my wheel and a few games up on ebay, that I would offer them here first. If anyone is interested in these items, please email off list. Thanks. Joel Willstein [email hidden] TSW2 Basic with Rockfire USB adapter. 5 years old. Excellent condition. Needs a new steering pot. $100 plus shipping. Grand Prix Legends. Instruction manual plus Steve Smith's book. $50 plus shipping Nascar 2003 with instruction book $50 plus shipping. I also have F1 2002, Nascar 3, and the expansion pack. Both have their respective booklets.

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> Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing > after trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. I've moved on to > turn based games like chess and Civilization 4, which neither require a > super powerful computer nor lightening fast reflexes. Neither of which > I no longer have. > > I thought that before I put my wheel and a few games up on ebay, that I > would offer them here first. If anyone is interested in these items, > please email off list. Thanks. > > Joel Willstein > [email hidden] > > TSW2 Basic with Rockfire USB adapter. 5 years old. Excellent condition. > Needs a new steering pot. $100 plus shipping. > > Grand Prix Legends. Instruction manual plus Steve Smith's book. $50 plus > shipping > > Nascar 2003 with instruction book $50 plus shipping. > > I also have F1 2002, Nascar 3, and the expansion pack. Both have their > respective booklets.

Sorry guys. I some how I missed spelled my email address. It's [email hidden]

On Jan 1, 1:35 pm, Joel Willstein <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing > after trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. I've moved on to > turn based games like chess and Civilization 4, which neither require a > super powerful computer nor lightening fast reflexes. Neither of which > I no longer have. > > I thought that before I put my wheel and a few games up on ebay, that I > would offer them here first. If anyone is interested in these items, > please email off list. Thanks. > > Joel Willstein > [email hidden] > > TSW2 Basic with Rockfire USB adapter. 5 years old. Excellent condition. > Needs a new steering pot. $100 plus shipping. > > Grand Prix Legends. Instruction manual plus Steve Smith's book. $50 plus > shipping > > Nascar 2003 with instruction book $50 plus shipping. > > I also have F1 2002, Nascar 3, and the expansion pack. Both have their > respective booklets.

Just curious, but is this the same stuff you have been trying to sell for like 2 years? I seem to recall that I wanted to buy the wheel last year at some point and then you changed your mind halfway thru the discussion.

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> > On Jan 1, 1:35 pm, Joel Willstein <[email hidden]> wrote: >> Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing >> after trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. I've moved on to >> turn based games like chess and Civilization 4, which neither require a >> super powerful computer nor lightening fast reflexes. Neither of which >> I no longer have. >> >> I thought that before I put my wheel and a few games up on ebay, that I >> would offer them here first. If anyone is interested in these items, >> please email off list. Thanks. >> >> Joel Willstein >> [email hidden] >> >> TSW2 Basic with Rockfire USB adapter. 5 years old. Excellent condition. >> Needs a new steering pot. $100 plus shipping. >> >> Grand Prix Legends. Instruction manual plus Steve Smith's book. $50 plus >> shipping >> >> Nascar 2003 with instruction book $50 plus shipping. >> >> I also have F1 2002, Nascar 3, and the expansion pack. Both have their >> respective booklets. > > Just curious, but is this the same stuff you have been trying to sell > for like 2 years? I seem to recall that I wanted to buy the wheel last > year at some point and then you changed your mind halfway thru the > discussion. >

Yes it is. I decided to give it one more shot after I finished with the eye surgeon, but try as I might the "thrill was all gone". The wheel is in the closet, and the sims that I saved are in a bookcase just gathering dust. Joel

"Joel Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fvcmh.1111$[email hidden]...

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> Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing after > trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. I've moved on to turn based > games like chess and Civilization 4, which neither require a super > powerful computer nor lightening fast reflexes. Neither of which > I no longer have. > > I thought that before I put my wheel and a few games up on ebay, that I > would offer them here first. If anyone is interested in these items, > please email off list. Thanks. > > Joel Willstein > [email hidden] > > TSW2 Basic with Rockfire USB adapter. 5 years old. Excellent condition. > Needs a new steering pot. $100 plus shipping. > > Grand Prix Legends. Instruction manual plus Steve Smith's book. $50 plus > shipping > > Nascar 2003 with instruction book $50 plus shipping. > > I also have F1 2002, Nascar 3, and the expansion pack. Both have their > respective booklets.

I go through fazes like this.. and I'm like this at the moment.. I just can't seem to get any enjoyment out of siming.... I think its a mood thing..?

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> "Joel Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:fvcmh.1111$[email hidden]... >> Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing after >> trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. I've moved on to turn based >> games like chess and Civilization 4, which neither require a super >> powerful computer nor lightening fast reflexes. Neither of which >> I no longer have. >> >> I thought that before I put my wheel and a few games up on ebay, that I >> would offer them here first. If anyone is interested in these items, >> please email off list. Thanks. >> >> Joel Willstein >> [email hidden] >> >> TSW2 Basic with Rockfire USB adapter. 5 years old. Excellent condition. >> Needs a new steering pot. $100 plus shipping. >> >> Grand Prix Legends. Instruction manual plus Steve Smith's book. $50 plus >> shipping >> >> Nascar 2003 with instruction book $50 plus shipping. >> >> I also have F1 2002, Nascar 3, and the expansion pack. Both have their >> respective booklets. > > > I go through fazes like this.. and I'm like this at the moment.. I just > can't seem to get any enjoyment out of siming.... I think its a mood > thing..? > >

the fact that there are no good online racing solutions may contribute to this feeling

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> "Joel Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:fvcmh.1111$[email hidden]... > >>Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing after >>trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. I've moved on to turn based >>games like chess and Civilization 4, which neither require a super >>powerful computer nor lightening fast reflexes. Neither of which >>I no longer have. >> >>I thought that before I put my wheel and a few games up on ebay, that I >>would offer them here first. If anyone is interested in these items, >>please email off list. Thanks. >> >>Joel Willstein >>[email hidden] >> >>TSW2 Basic with Rockfire USB adapter. 5 years old. Excellent condition. >>Needs a new steering pot. $100 plus shipping. >> >>Grand Prix Legends. Instruction manual plus Steve Smith's book. $50 plus >>shipping >> >>Nascar 2003 with instruction book $50 plus shipping. >> >>I also have F1 2002, Nascar 3, and the expansion pack. Both have their >>respective booklets. > > > > I go through fazes like this.. and I'm like this at the moment.. I just > can't seem to get any enjoyment out of siming.... I think its a mood > thing..? > >

It more permanent with me, just can't get back into it. I just have the feeling that I've been there and done that so it's time to move on.

timmy thompson wrote: > the fact that there are no good online racing solutions may contribute > to this feeling You're a fucking toolshed.

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:16:44 GMT, Albert Ross <[email hidden]> wrote: >It more permanent with me, just can't get back into it. I just have the >feeling that I've been there and done that so it's time to move on. Ofcourse after spending a lot of time on simracing the thrill gets less and less. I stopped simracing for a while because my former pc couldn't handle the newer sims. Now that I've 'discover' rFactor and the mods I'm getting huge enjoyment again from sim-racing. Besides that I now drive with the G25, manual clutch and using the H-shifter. It's like learning to drive all over again. Heel/toe is HARD :) Cheers Andre

"jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > timmy thompson wrote: > >> the fact that there are no good online racing solutions may contribute >> to this feeling > > You're a fucking toolshed. Please explain what a fucking toolshed is?

>> the fact that there are no good online racing solutions may contribute >> to this feeling > You're a ***ing toolshed. Please explain what a ***ing toolshed is?

"Roscoe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZyCmh.1715$IT2.227@trnddc06... > > Please explain what a fucking toolshed is? A sexually active toolshed? Seems pretty self explanatory to me. I guess that's how you get little toolsheds. Come to think of it, it could also be a toolshed used for sexual activity. Probably when the wife is home.

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>On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 00:47:29 +0100, Andre Warringa >Besides that I now drive with the G25, manual clutch and using the >H-shifter. It's like learning to drive all over again. Heel/toe is >HARD :) > >Cheers >Andre

Andre - Heel/Toe with the G25 is next to impossible because you would NEVER position the pedals like that in a real race car. When the brake pedal is depressed it should be along the same plane as the gas pedal so all you need to do is brake with the ball of your foot and blip the throttle with the outer edge. I saw some pics a while back of a rig someone made by dismantling the G25 and rearrangeing the pedal layout to be like it should be.. If I can find it i'm going to try building the same rig. Maybe there is some way to drop the gas pedal an inch +/-, that would work also. GP

"Andre Warringa" wrote... > <snip> > Besides that I now drive with the G25, manual clutch and using the > H-shifter. It's like learning to drive all over again. Heel/toe is > HARD :) It's called simulation for a reason, Andre... <g> Jan. =---

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>> "Joel Willstein" wrote... >> Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing >> after trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. <snip> > Emma Ward wrote... > I go through fazes like this.. and I'm like this at the moment.. I just > can't seem to get any enjoyment out of siming.... I think its a mood > thing..?

If it's "a mood thing", you're not really racing. With the right crowd in the right series, even plain vanilla Grand Prix Legends '67 is still as challenging as it was 8 years ago. Jan. =---

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>> "Joel Willstein" wrote... >> Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing >> after trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. <snip> > Emma Ward wrote... > I go through fazes like this.. and I'm like this at the moment.. I just > can't seem to get any enjoyment out of siming.... I think its a mood > thing..?

If it's "a mood thing", you're not really racing. With the right crowd in the right series, even plain vanilla Grand Prix Legends '67 is still as challenging as it was 8 years ago. Jan. =---

You are obviously lost. :) Have you heard of rFactor? or LFS? (not a fan myself - but the online code seems good) "timmy thompson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:459ad6c8$0$5230$[email hidden]...

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> Emma Ward wrote: >> "Joel Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:fvcmh.1111$[email hidden]... >>> Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing >>> after trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. I've moved on to >>> turn based games like chess and Civilization 4, which neither require a >>> super powerful computer nor lightening fast reflexes. Neither of which >>> I no longer have. >>> >>> I thought that before I put my wheel and a few games up on ebay, that I >>> would offer them here first. If anyone is interested in these items, >>> please email off list. Thanks. >>> >>> Joel Willstein >>> [email hidden] >>> >>> TSW2 Basic with Rockfire USB adapter. 5 years old. Excellent condition. >>> Needs a new steering pot. $100 plus shipping. >>> >>> Grand Prix Legends. Instruction manual plus Steve Smith's book. $50 plus >>> shipping >>> >>> Nascar 2003 with instruction book $50 plus shipping. >>> >>> I also have F1 2002, Nascar 3, and the expansion pack. Both have their >>> respective booklets. >> >> >> I go through fazes like this.. and I'm like this at the moment.. I just >> can't seem to get any enjoyment out of siming.... I think its a mood >> thing..? > > the fact that there are no good online racing solutions may contribute to > this feeling

On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:42:23 -0000, Emma Ward wrote: > I go through fazes like this.. and I'm like this at the moment.. I just > can't seem to get any enjoyment out of siming.... I think its a mood > thing..? Or it could be because you are a chick. ;)

The G25 does change things, doesn't it :) As soon as mine is out of warranty, I'm going to tear the pedals apart and build a new board for them to properly place the pedals. That's my only gripe with an otherwise outstanding pedal set. From the design, it looks like this would be a piece of cake. I may change springs too, if they don't wear in. I like my pedals a bit lighter than this. -Larry "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:16:44 GMT, Albert Ross <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>It more permanent with me, just can't get back into it. I just have the >>feeling that I've been there and done that so it's time to move on. > > Ofcourse after spending a lot of time on simracing the thrill gets > less and less. I stopped simracing for a while because my former pc > couldn't handle the newer sims. Now that I've 'discover' rFactor and > the mods I'm getting huge enjoyment again from sim-racing. > > Besides that I now drive with the G25, manual clutch and using the > H-shifter. It's like learning to drive all over again. Heel/toe is > HARD :) > > Cheers > Andre

This is what I like about the G25 pedals. They scream "Mod Me!" -Larry "GaryP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> >On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 00:47:29 +0100, Andre Warringa > Andre - Heel/Toe with the G25 is next to impossible because you would > NEVER position the pedals like that in a real race car. When the brake > pedal is depressed it should be along the same plane as the gas pedal > so all you need to do is brake with the ball of your foot and blip the > throttle with the outer edge. I saw some pics a while back of a rig > someone made by dismantling the G25 and rearrangeing the pedal layout > to be like it should be.. If I can find it i'm going to try building > the same rig. Maybe there is some way to drop the gas pedal an inch > +/-, that would work also. > > GP

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> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:16:44 GMT, Albert Ross <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>It more permanent with me, just can't get back into it. I just have the >>feeling that I've been there and done that so it's time to move on. > > > Ofcourse after spending a lot of time on simracing the thrill gets > less and less. I stopped simracing for a while because my former pc > couldn't handle the newer sims. Now that I've 'discover' rFactor and > the mods I'm getting huge enjoyment again from sim-racing. > > Besides that I now drive with the G25, manual clutch and using the > H-shifter. It's like learning to drive all over again. Heel/toe is > HARD :) > > Cheers > Andre

Got my actlabs shifter about 5 years ago and even heel&toed during league races. I'd have to get the whole frex setup to stay interested now. Looking at the cost I'd rather put the money toward racing a Caterham 7.

Contumeliorus Florius wrote: > > Or it could be because you are a chick. ;) As opposed to a dick?

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:19:15 -0500, GaryP <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Andre - Heel/Toe with the G25 is next to impossible because you would >NEVER position the pedals like that in a real race car. When the brake >pedal is depressed it should be along the same plane as the gas pedal >so all you need to do is brake with the ball of your foot and blip the >throttle with the outer edge. I saw some pics a while back of a rig >someone made by dismantling the G25 and rearrangeing the pedal layout >to be like it should be.. If I can find it i'm going to try building >the same rig. Maybe there is some way to drop the gas pedal an inch >+/-, that would work also. > >GP

Yup, the pedals are not position as they should be, I wonder why the hell they put the brake and gas pedals so far apart. I saw pics too of different pedals mods, might be something I'm going to do eventually too. Fortunately I have quite big feet which makes it slightly less awkward ;) Cheers Andre

On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:39:40 -0500, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The G25 does change things, doesn't it :) It's mostly the shifting back in a corner which gives me the most trouble. Especially in mods like the F1 '79 one. But it feels so much better and real using the clutch, love it! >I may change springs too, if they don't wear in. I like my pedals a bit >lighter than this. Personally I find the resistance of the pedals perfect, especially the braking pedal. Controlling the brakes is so precise now. Cheers Andre

> I go through fazes like this.. and I'm like this at the moment.. I just can't seem to get any enjoyment out of > siming.... I think its a mood thing..? Or that the newness of sim-racing has worn off, and we've gotten older. There are other type of games. The Tombraider series is my favorite, and I do play the arcade racing games, like the Need For Speed series, mostly the offline career mode.

> Please explain what a fucking toolshed is? Well if you are going to modify your pedals, you'll need tools and those are kept in the tool shed. Now if the tool shed doesn't have the tools you need, you may get mad and say "that fucking tool shed ...". So there you have ... and I was getting worried that we were getting off topic.

>> Please explain what a ... toolshed is? Similar to this? http://www.allowe.com/Humor/video/Carlton,Shed.wmv

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>> I go through fazes like this.. and I'm like this at the moment.. I just can't seem to get any enjoyment out of >> siming.... I think its a mood thing..? > > Or that the newness of sim-racing has worn off, and we've gotten older. > > There are other type of games. The Tombraider series is my favorite, > and I do play the arcade racing games, like the Need For Speed > series, mostly the offline career mode. > > >

Well, it looks like no one here is interested in purchasing either the TSW2 nor the sims, so I'll put them up for sale on e-bay. Happy New Year's all

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> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:16:44 GMT, Albert Ross <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>It more permanent with me, just can't get back into it. I just have the >>feeling that I've been there and done that so it's time to move on. > > Ofcourse after spending a lot of time on simracing the thrill gets > less and less. I stopped simracing for a while because my former pc > couldn't handle the newer sims. Now that I've 'discover' rFactor and > the mods I'm getting huge enjoyment again from sim-racing. > > Besides that I now drive with the G25, manual clutch and using the > H-shifter. It's like learning to drive all over again. Heel/toe is > HARD :) > > Cheers > Andre

I'm enjoying sim racing more than ever now. The combination of rFactor and R.A.C.E.R. has been great. -- David G Fisher

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> Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing after > trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. I've moved on to turn based > games like chess and Civilization 4, which neither require a super > powerful computer nor lightening fast reflexes. Neither of which > I no longer have. > > I thought that before I put my wheel and a few games up on ebay, that I > would offer them here first. If anyone is interested in these items, > please email off list. Thanks. > > Joel Willstein > [email hidden] > > TSW2 Basic with Rockfire USB adapter. 5 years old. Excellent condition. > Needs a new steering pot. $100 plus shipping. > > Grand Prix Legends. Instruction manual plus Steve Smith's book. $50 plus > shipping > > Nascar 2003 with instruction book $50 plus shipping.

Put NR2003 on eBay. It may bring twice your asking price. > > I also have F1 2002, Nascar 3, and the expansion pack. Both have their > respective booklets.

See the comment below? This is the type of person you find in many sim leagues. They take the enjoyment out of it. "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > timmy thompson wrote: > > You're a fucking toolshed. >

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> "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:16:44 GMT, Albert Ross <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>> It more permanent with me, just can't get back into it. I just have the >>> feeling that I've been there and done that so it's time to move on. >> Ofcourse after spending a lot of time on simracing the thrill gets >> less and less. I stopped simracing for a while because my former pc >> couldn't handle the newer sims. Now that I've 'discover' rFactor and >> the mods I'm getting huge enjoyment again from sim-racing. > I'm enjoying sim racing more than ever now. The combination of rFactor and > R.A.C.E.R. has been great.

Same here. The quality of the mods for rFactor, some fun with the GTR2 mods and a great GT Legends league leave me trying to find more time for sim racing. With iRacing and future developments of NKPro, Race2Play plus who knows what, sim racing just gets better and better. GPL will always have huge sim racing memories for me - my first ever online race, my first ever league and some championship honours, yet whilst I have fond memories of busy VROC nights, things have moved on with the quality of sims and the racing with improved netcode and availability of broadband. Maybe racing really is in the blood. Unlike other computer games which bring in new twists to enhance the gameplay, sim racing is pretty darned simple. Sure new features can be added like changeable weather and better modelled bumps and so on, but the basic gameplay is somewhat primitive. These features all add a degree of novelty factor, but for me there is no novelty of sim racing per se to lose. So I don't agree it is inevitable the thrill will be depleted over time. Cheers Tony

On 3 Jan 2007 11:53:49 -0800, Bob Simpson wrote: > As opposed to a dick? Or in your case a dumbass for not knowing what an emoticon means.

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> Dave F wrote: >> "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:16:44 GMT, Albert Ross <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >>>> It more permanent with me, just can't get back into it. I just have the >>>> feeling that I've been there and done that so it's time to move on. >>> Ofcourse after spending a lot of time on simracing the thrill gets >>> less and less. I stopped simracing for a while because my former pc >>> couldn't handle the newer sims. Now that I've 'discover' rFactor and >>> the mods I'm getting huge enjoyment again from sim-racing. > >> I'm enjoying sim racing more than ever now. The combination of rFactor >> and R.A.C.E.R. has been great. > > Same here. The quality of the mods for rFactor, some fun with the GTR2 > mods and a great GT Legends league leave me trying to find more time for > sim racing. With iRacing and future developments of NKPro, Race2Play > plus who knows what, sim racing just gets better and better. > > GPL will always have huge sim racing memories for me - my first ever > online race, my first ever league and some championship honours, yet > whilst I have fond memories of busy VROC nights, things have moved on with > the quality of sims and the racing with improved netcode and availability > of broadband. > > Maybe racing really is in the blood. Unlike other computer games which > bring in new twists to enhance the gameplay, sim racing is pretty darned > simple. Sure new features can be added like changeable weather and better > modelled bumps and so on, but the basic gameplay is somewhat primitive. > These features all add a degree of novelty factor, but for me there is no > novelty of sim racing per se to lose. So I don't agree it is inevitable > the thrill will be depleted over time. > > Cheers > Tony

I agree that things just keep getting better and better. Really looking forward to this year. Something I've been wanting to do for years *finally* happened recently. RACER had an F1 (mini) season with CTDP F1 2005. Until rFactor, F1 racing with a full field of drivers was never really possible IMO, so I'd been waiting for something like this to come along for about 9 years. The whole event was run like a real F1 season. Team owners who picked their driver lineup, real team car performance, test drivers, private team and open practice sessions, full race distance races, etc. The most fun I've ever had in sim racing. Great lineup of drivers and some extremely intense racing and setup work. My teammate (also owner) and I, along with a couple of other excellent test drivers/teammates won the team championship, and I won the driver championship. The next season coming up later this year will be even better. I agree 100% with your last paragraph. I just love competing on a race track against other drivers, and always trying to improve. Can't imagine giving it up. The other night George Sandman and I were practicing for an upcoming RACER event in the advTrainers (you should sign up) and were swapping fast laps (ended up about.05 apart), and then we ran a short race with a couple of other drivers. We were separated by a few tenths the entire race. I had a blast and could never giving up sim racing, exactly because of these kind of moments. -- David G Fisher

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>> Maybe racing really is in the blood. Unlike other computer games which >> bring in new twists to enhance the gameplay, sim racing is pretty darned >> simple. Sure new features can be added like changeable weather and better >> modelled bumps and so on, but the basic gameplay is somewhat primitive. >> These features all add a degree of novelty factor, but for me there is no >> novelty of sim racing per se to lose. So I don't agree it is inevitable >> the thrill will be depleted over time. > I agree 100% with your last paragraph. I just love competing on a race track > against other drivers, and always trying to improve. Can't imagine giving it > up. The other night George Sandman and I were practicing for an upcoming > RACER event in the advTrainers (you should sign up) and were swapping fast > laps (ended up about.05 apart), and then we ran a short race with a couple > of other drivers. We were separated by a few tenths the entire race. I had a > blast and could never giving up sim racing, exactly because of these kind of > moments.

Maybe that highlights the issues that some others have with sim racing though. What you have described are very well organised online events. I am sure many of us would love to get more involved but can't commit to regular schedules. So we take what we can with pick up racing on a more ad hoc basis. This is what I hope ventures like Race2Play and iRacing can bring to party - some better organisation and control to raise the quality of online racing such that there should be decent racing going on pretty much all of the time in a similar way to fps titles, in addition to the leagues. Cheers Tony

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> "Joel Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:fvcmh.1111$[email hidden]... > >>Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing after >>trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. I've moved on to turn based >>games like chess and Civilization 4, which neither require a super >>powerful computer nor lightening fast reflexes. Neither of which >>I no longer have. >> >>I thought that before I put my wheel and a few games up on ebay, that I >>would offer them here first. If anyone is interested in these items, >>please email off list. Thanks. >> >>Joel Willstein >>[email hidden] >> >>TSW2 Basic with Rockfire USB adapter. 5 years old. Excellent condition. >>Needs a new steering pot. $100 plus shipping. >> >>Grand Prix Legends. Instruction manual plus Steve Smith's book. $50 plus >>shipping >> >>Nascar 2003 with instruction book $50 plus shipping. > > > Put NR2003 on eBay. > It may bring twice your asking price. > >

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nascar-Racing-2003-Season_W0QQitemZ330068921682QQihZ014QQcategoryZ11049QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330068921682 or not

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> gordo wrote: >> "Joel Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:fvcmh.1111$[email hidden]... >> >>>Try as I might, I just haven't been able to get back into sim racing >>>after trying on and off for the last 6 months or so. I've moved on to >>>turn based games like chess and Civilization 4, which neither require a >>>super powerful computer nor lightening fast reflexes. Neither of which >>>I no longer have. >>> >>>I thought that before I put my wheel and a few games up on ebay, that I >>>would offer them here first. If anyone is interested in these items, >>>please email off list. Thanks. >>> >>>Joel Willstein >>>[email hidden] >>> >>>TSW2 Basic with Rockfire USB adapter. 5 years old. Excellent condition. >>>Needs a new steering pot. $100 plus shipping. >>> >>>Grand Prix Legends. Instruction manual plus Steve Smith's book. $50 plus >>>shipping >>> >>>Nascar 2003 with instruction book $50 plus shipping. >> >> >> Put NR2003 on eBay. >> It may bring twice your asking price. >> >> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nascar-Racing-2003-Season_W0QQitemZ330068921682QQihZ014QQcategoryZ11049QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330068921682 > > or not

Speaking from my personal experience, I sold a new, unopened copy on ebay last August for $150.00 (buy it now). :-)

Joel Willstein <[email hidden]> wrote in news:pEcmh.1113$1M.1100 @newsfe11.lga: > Sorry guys. I some how I missed spelled my email address. It's > [email hidden] You really should not post a real email address on Usenet, for your own sake, and Optimum Online's.

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:08:55 GMT, Darek wrote:

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> Joel Willstein <[email hidden]> wrote in news:pEcmh.1113$1M.1100 > @newsfe11.lga: > >> Sorry guys. I some how I missed spelled my email address. It's >> [email hidden] > > You really should not post a real email address on Usenet, for your own > sake, and Optimum Online's.

Depends, some consider it bad netiquette *not* using at least a valid email address, even if it's only a spambox. Cheers, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

"Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:08:55 GMT, Darek wrote: >> Joel Willstein <[email hidden]> wrote in news:pEcmh.1113$1M.1100 >> @newsfe11.lga: >> >>> Sorry guys. I some how I missed spelled my email address. It's >>> [email hidden] >> >> You really should not post a real email address on Usenet, for your own >> sake, and Optimum Online's. > > Depends, some consider it bad netiquette *not* using at least a valid > email address, even if it's only a spambox. > > Cheers, uwe >

All you need to do to be respectable is post under your own name - posting with a legit email addy is like covering yourself with fresh shit and walking amongst greeks!

Byron Forbes wrote:

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> "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:08:55 GMT, Darek wrote: >>> Joel Willstein <[email hidden]> wrote in news:pEcmh.1113$1M.1100 >>> @newsfe11.lga: >>> >>>> Sorry guys. I some how I missed spelled my email address. It's >>>> [email hidden] >>> You really should not post a real email address on Usenet, for your own >>> sake, and Optimum Online's. >> Depends, some consider it bad netiquette *not* using at least a valid >> email address, even if it's only a spambox. >> >> Cheers, uwe >> > > All you need to do to be respectable is post under your own name - > posting with a legit email addy is like covering yourself with fresh shit > and walking amongst greeks! > >

Funny, I dont respect you

"timmy thompson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:45b8fd2c$0$28161$[email hidden]...

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> Byron Forbes wrote: >> "Uwe Sch�rkamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 05:08:55 GMT, Darek wrote: >>>> Joel Willstein <[email hidden]> wrote in news:pEcmh.1113$1M.1100 >>>> @newsfe11.lga: >>>> >>>>> Sorry guys. I some how I missed spelled my email address. It's >>>>> [email hidden] >>>> You really should not post a real email address on Usenet, for your own >>>> sake, and Optimum Online's. >>> Depends, some consider it bad netiquette *not* using at least a valid >>> email address, even if it's only a spambox. >>> >>> Cheers, uwe >>> >> >> All you need to do to be respectable is post under your own name - >> posting with a legit email addy is like covering yourself with fresh shit >> and walking amongst greeks! > > Funny, I dont respect you

That must be the greek "in" you!

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:25:54 +1100, Byron Forbes wrote: > All you need to do to be respectable is post under your own name - Only dumbasses post under their real name. Who gives a fuck about appearing respectable on usenet?

"Pipboy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1ii2io4rfl2g6$.v0jlmy75t7vv$[email hidden]...

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> On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:25:54 +1100, Byron Forbes wrote: > > >> All you need to do to be respectable is post under your own name - > > Only dumbasses post under their real name. Who gives a fuck about > appearing > respectable on usenet?

So you like to demonstrate that you don't have the balls or the pride in yourself to post under your own name. You also seem to concede that it is at least relatively less respectable not to and thus you will be taken less notice of. Not that big of a deal - intelligent posts are all important anyway. I suppose.