End It All ??

Good Day, I have a utility for shutting down TSR programs that take up additional memory called End It All. The utility works fine with one exception. When I go to shut down my system after using the program it hangs. I have to re-boot and shut down windows again in order to have shut down properly. Does anybody know what could be causing this problem? Or does anybody know of another utility like End It All and if so where can I find it? Thanks

Sorry to jump onto this thread, but FWIW I have the exact same problem. Although sometimes, I can still do a clean shutdown. This is with EndIt All, not EndItAll2 (which is a bloated piece of code, if you ask me....) This is with Win98SE. TireSpin43 wrote:

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> Good Day, > > I have a utility for shutting down TSR programs that take up additional > memory called End It All. The utility works fine with one exception. When I > go to shut down my system after using the program it hangs. I have to > re-boot and shut down windows again in order to have shut down properly. > Does anybody know what could be causing this problem? Or does anybody know > of another utility like End It All and if so where can I find it? > > Thanks

Sorry to jump onto this thread, but FWIW I have the exact same problem. Although sometimes, I can still do a clean shutdown. This is with EndIt All, not EndItAll2 (which is a bloated piece of code, if you ask me....) This is with Win98SE.

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> Good Day, > I have a utility for shutting down TSR programs that take up additional > memory called End It All. The utility works fine with one exception. When I > go to shut down my system after using the program it hangs. I have to > re-boot and shut down windows again in order to have shut down properly. > Does anybody know what could be causing this problem? Or does anybody know > of another utility like End It All and if so where can I find it? > Thanks

If you guys do a ctrl-atl-del and shut down everything manually that end it all shuts down, does the system still hang? I doubt it would be end it all causing the problem....You probably have it shutting off something that you computer needs for a hangless shutdown. -Tim "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Sorry to jump onto this thread, but FWIW I have the exact same problem. > Although sometimes, I can still do a clean shutdown. This is with EndItAll, > not EndItAll2 (which is a bloated piece of code, if you ask me....) Thisis

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> with Win98SE. > > > > TireSpin43 wrote: > > > Good Day, > > > > I have a utility for shutting down TSR programs that take up additional > > memory called End It All. The utility works fine with one exception.

When I > > go to shut down my system after using the program it hangs. I have to > > re-boot and shut down windows again in order to have shut down properly. > > Does anybody know what could be causing this problem? Or does anybodyknow > > of another utility like End It All and if so where can I find it? > > > > Thanks >

Tim, You are correct, I have tried to allow several TSR programs to run as an experiment to hopefully stumble across the one Windows 98 SE needs to shut down correctly. Thus far I have still had no success. I just thought that maybe someone else out there had a quick fix for this problem? I will continue to test my theory to see which missing TSR is causing the hang. Thanks for the response. TS43 "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If you guys do a ctrl-atl-del and shut down everything manually that endit > all shuts down, does the system still hang? I doubt it would be end itall > causing the problem....You probably have it shutting off something thatyou

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> computer needs for a hangless shutdown. > > -Tim > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Sorry to jump onto this thread, but FWIW I have the exact same problem. > > Although sometimes, I can still do a clean shutdown. This is with EndIt > All, > > not EndItAll2 (which is a bloated piece of code, if you ask me....)

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> is > > with Win98SE. > > > > > > > > TireSpin43 wrote: > > > > > Good Day, > > > > > > I have a utility for shutting down TSR programs that take up

additional > > > memory called End It All. The utility works fine with one exception. > When I > > > go to shut down my system after using the program it hangs. I have to > > > re-boot and shut down windows again in order to have shut downproperly.

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> > > Does anybody know what could be causing this problem? Or does anybody > know > > > of another utility like End It All and if so where can I find it? > > > > > > Thanks > > > >

I like Startup Manager 1.5. It can be downloaded here: http://www.answersthatwork.com/Downright_pages/downrights_pcconfiguration.ht m TSRs load at startup. It Sounds to me like you are "shutting down" TSR's after they have already loaded on bootup. Sometimes, when you shut down TSRs in this manner, they still linger around because they were not really menat to be shut down manually. It is best to terminate them before they load on bootup. Another way to do this is to go Start>Run> and type MSCONFIG. Go to the Startup tab. You can check or uncheck the TSRs here too. I prefer to use Startup Manager though because that way you keep a "Normal Startup" and you are not messing with MSCONFIG and creating a "Selective Startup". With Startup Manager 1.5, you can disable these TSR's and then they will not even show in MSCONFIG. Also, you can easily delete an entry with Startup Manager if it is not needed and do away with it completely! Hope this helps. "TireSpin43" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:z0q5a.294834$[email hidden]... > Good Day, > > I have a utility for shutting down TSR programs that take up additional > memory called End It All. The utility works fine with one exception. WhenI

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> go to shut down my system after using the program it hangs. I have to > re-boot and shut down windows again in order to have shut down properly. > Does anybody know what could be causing this problem? Or does anybody know > of another utility like End It All and if so where can I find it? > > Thanks > > > >

"TireSpin43" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<f_M5a.303543$[email hidden]>...

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> Tim, > > You are correct, I have tried to allow several TSR programs to run as an > experiment to hopefully stumble across the one Windows 98 SE needs to shut > down correctly. Thus far I have still had no success. I just thought that > maybe someone else out there had a quick fix for this problem? I will > continue to test my theory to see which missing TSR is causing the hang. > > Thanks for the response. > > TS43 > > > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > If you guys do a ctrl-atl-del and shut down everything manually that end > it > > all shuts down, does the system still hang? I doubt it would be end it > all > > causing the problem....You probably have it shutting off something that > you > > computer needs for a hangless shutdown. > > > > -Tim > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Sorry to jump onto this thread, but FWIW I have the exact same problem. > > > Although sometimes, I can still do a clean shutdown. This is with EndIt > All, > > > not EndItAll2 (which is a bloated piece of code, if you ask me....) > This > is > > > with Win98SE. > > > > > > > > > > > > TireSpin43 wrote: > > > > > > > Good Day, > > > > > > > > I have a utility for shutting down TSR programs that take up > additional > > > > memory called End It All. The utility works fine with one exception. > When I > > > > go to shut down my system after using the program it hangs. I have to > > > > re-boot and shut down windows again in order to have shut down > properly. > > > > Does anybody know what could be causing this problem? Or does anybody > know > > > > of another utility like End It All and if so where can I find it? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > >

hello this might help: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q238096#1

Thanks Bill, That is an awesome website. They appear to have answer for everything there. I have downloaded SM 1.5 and we will see if that works for me. I have also checked out the MS knowledge base that ctrlaltdelete35 had suggested and it too had some very informative points. Thanks for your reply's. TS43 "Bill Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3YP5a.10548$[email hidden]... > I like Startup Manager 1.5. > > It can be downloaded here: > >http://www.answersthatwork.com/Downright_pages/downrights_pcconfiguration.ht > m > > TSRs load at startup. It Sounds to me like you are "shutting down" TSR's > after they have already loaded on bootup. Sometimes, when you shut downTSRs > in this manner, they still linger around because they were not reallymenat

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> to be shut down manually. It is best to terminate them before they load on > bootup. > > Another way to do this is to go Start>Run> and type MSCONFIG. Go to the > Startup tab. You can check or uncheck the TSRs here too. > > I prefer to use Startup Manager though because that way you keep a "Normal > Startup" and you are not messing with MSCONFIG and creating a "Selective > Startup". > > With Startup Manager 1.5, you can disable these TSR's and then they will

not

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> even show in MSCONFIG. Also, you can easily delete an entry with Startup > Manager if it is not needed and do away with it completely! > > Hope this helps. > > "TireSpin43" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:z0q5a.294834$[email hidden]... > > Good Day, > > > > I have a utility for shutting down TSR programs that take up additional > > memory called End It All. The utility works fine with one exception.

When > I > > go to shut down my system after using the program it hangs. I have to > > re-boot and shut down windows again in order to have shut down properly. > > Does anybody know what could be causing this problem? Or does anybodyknow

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> > of another utility like End It All and if so where can I find it? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > >