FIA-GT

I've seen a few grabs online of the FIA-GT add-on for R-Factor, not the RFX one, but another.. Would anybody be able to point me in the right direction... Thank You !!

Try the link here. http://www.simracingportugal.net/index.php?s=87f90a8990dc60d771cd355031157da9&showtopic=3823 "Emma Ward" <senninha1@ sad.btinternet.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I've seen a few grabs online of the FIA-GT add-on for R-Factor, not the > RFX one, but another.. > > Would anybody be able to point me in the right direction... > > Thank You !! > > >

"Emma Ward" <senninha1@ sad.btinternet.com> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I've seen a few grabs online of the FIA-GT add-on for R-Factor, not the > RFX one, but another.. > > Would anybody be able to point me in the right direction... > > Thank You !! > > >

Very kind !!!! Downloading now !! 223KB/Sec

Emma Ward wrote: > I've seen a few grabs online of the FIA-GT add-on for R-Factor, not the RFX > one, but another.. It's GTR2 minus the driver arms and animated pit guys. Also the erratic mp and frustratingly incomplete feature set. It's a net improvement, IMO. If I were Simbin, I would not be happy with this development. Frankly, for those owning rFactor, the game is has become as inessential as tonsils.

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> Emma Ward wrote: > > >>I've seen a few grabs online of the FIA-GT add-on for R-Factor, not the RFX >>one, but another.. > > > > It's GTR2 minus the driver arms and animated pit guys. Also the erratic > mp and frustratingly incomplete feature set. It's a net improvement, > IMO. If I were Simbin, I would not be happy with this development. > Frankly, for those owning rFactor, the game is has become as > inessential as tonsils.

After checking most cars, I'm overjoyed. Now I don't have to think about which sim I start. Just picking a car and a track is hard... Man, just looking at the WIPs on rfactor central (esp. Fedex CART World Series 1998) is not going to make that any easier in the future... ;) ronny

On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:36:04 +0100, Ronald Stoehr <[email hidden]> wrote: >Man, just looking at the WIPs on rfactor central (esp. Fedex CART World Series 1998) >is not going to make that any easier in the future... ;) > >ronny Since I bought Rfactor 2 weeks ago I haven't played any other sim, it's awesome. The major thing lacking is changeable weather now.. and a decent '67 F1 mod would be nice ;) Tried the one that was released a couple of weeks ago but those physics were kind of crappy. Cheers Andre

Frankly, call me a fuddy duddy, but this is complete BS imho. Completely ripped game, we wonder why proper sims can't prosper today, here is a prime example. No remorse at all from people for stealing another game. "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:36:04 +0100, Ronald Stoehr > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Man, just looking at the WIPs on rfactor central (esp. Fedex CART World >>Series 1998) >>is not going to make that any easier in the future... ;) >> >>ronny > > Since I bought Rfactor 2 weeks ago I haven't played any other sim, > it's awesome. The major thing lacking is changeable weather now.. > and a decent '67 F1 mod would be nice ;) > Tried the one that was released a couple of weeks ago but those > physics were kind of crappy. > > Cheers > Andre

Chad Rogers wrote: > Frankly, call me a fuddy duddy, but this is complete BS imho. Completely > ripped game, we wonder why proper sims can't prosper today, here is a prime > example. No remorse at all from people for stealing another game. >Spoken like a small business owner. You have a valid point but this was probably inevitable, tho it arrved unexpectedly out of nowhere. The result will, IMO, hasten the debut of a proprietary graphics motor on the part of Simbin/Blimey. And other developers will think twice before leasing any part of ISI's various component engines. I understand that the vehicle files in RACE are hard-coded. rFactor may end up as the last moddable racing game- which is maybe not a bad thing. It's odd how downloading files on the net just doesn't FEEL like stealing.

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> Frankly, call me a fuddy duddy, but this is complete BS imho. Completely > ripped game, we wonder why proper sims can't prosper today, here is a prime > example. No remorse at all from people for stealing another game. > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > >>On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:36:04 +0100, Ronald Stoehr >><[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >>>Man, just looking at the WIPs on rfactor central (esp. Fedex CART World >>>Series 1998) >>>is not going to make that any easier in the future... ;) >>> >>>ronny >> >>Since I bought Rfactor 2 weeks ago I haven't played any other sim, >>it's awesome. The major thing lacking is changeable weather now.. >>and a decent '67 F1 mod would be nice ;) >>Tried the one that was released a couple of weeks ago but those >>physics were kind of crappy.

Chad, please stop top posting. Anyway, at least in my case there's no stealing. I own both sims. Of course, making sims mod friendly also invites swapping parts between sims. This was/is going on for ever in the FPS genre. And nobody gets into panic mode because of it. As soon as the next sim is released with a better physics/graphics implementation, we all are going to buy it again... ronny

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> I've seen a few grabs online of the FIA-GT add-on for R-Factor, not the > RFX one, but another.. > > Would anybody be able to point me in the right direction... > > Thank You !! > > >

Theres not a 67 add on is there..? I have the finale for 79 F1 !

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> Chad Rogers wrote: >> Frankly, call me a fuddy duddy, but this is complete BS imho. >> Completely ripped game, we wonder why proper sims can't prosper today, >> here is a prime example. No remorse at all from people for stealing >> another game. > Anyway, at least in my case there's no stealing. I own both sims. > Of course, making sims mod friendly also invites swapping parts > between sims. This was/is going on for ever in the FPS genre. > And nobody gets into panic mode because of it. As soon as the next > sim is released with a better physics/graphics implementation, we > all are going to buy it again...

Quite. Plus it gives the developer the option of maintaining a regular income stream by releasing relatively minor updates in the physics/graphics and bundling a series with it *knowing* that other series from previous releases or rival products will get added to it to widen the market. Releasing sims based on a single series is bound to limit the appeal, but if it is now the de facto standard by adding improved weather, AI, support for the latest FFB wheels or just a set of working wipers then it will become the base for other series to be converted. Until of course the next version with puddles comes out based on another series. Having said that the enthusiast group that can be arsed to download and install all these conversions probably own every sim known to mankind anyway. Either way I think there is bugger all effect on sales be it up or down and if someone really wants to simulate racing GT cars but doesn't want to pay for GTR2 there is far wider general knowledge of how to go about it than importing *some* of its capability into another sim. Piracy is a general problem that does effect revenue, but interchangeability of content (not the game engines) between sims by a small group of enthusiasts who are a core group of purchasers seems to be considered as criminal acts by some when I really don't believe the vendors would be concerned. I purchased RACE which in its current form is now just sitting on the shelf. Unlike GTR2 which has the excellent V8 mod to overcome my personal view on the shortcomings of the sim, I don't see it changing. I will now think twice before buying another locked ISI based sim. Cheers Tony

I think your point is very valid. I might feel bad about getting the download except that I placated myself with the thought that this will make up for the money I "lost" on GTR (1). I paid for that and it never really did what it was sold to do -- ie: online racing - net code sucked - practically useless. So - although I typically agree with your view... not this time. ;) Cheers ==--== "Chad Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Frankly, call me a fuddy duddy, but this is complete BS imho. Completely > ripped game, we wonder why proper sims can't prosper today, here is a > prime example. No remorse at all from people for stealing another game. > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:36:04 +0100, Ronald Stoehr >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>>Man, just looking at the WIPs on rfactor central (esp. Fedex CART World >>>Series 1998) >>>is not going to make that any easier in the future... ;) >>> >>>ronny >> >> Since I bought Rfactor 2 weeks ago I haven't played any other sim, >> it's awesome. The major thing lacking is changeable weather now.. >> and a decent '67 F1 mod would be nice ;) >> Tried the one that was released a couple of weeks ago but those >> physics were kind of crappy. >> >> Cheers >> Andre > >

Ron - please stop bottom posting I hate to have to scroll down past the quoted last message I just read! LOL Cheers ==--== "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:emjbch$vom$[email hidden]...

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> Chad Rogers wrote: >> Frankly, call me a fuddy duddy, but this is complete BS imho. Completely >> ripped game, we wonder why proper sims can't prosper today, here is a >> prime example. No remorse at all from people for stealing another game. >> >> "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> >>>On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:36:04 +0100, Ronald Stoehr >>><[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Man, just looking at the WIPs on rfactor central (esp. Fedex CART World >>>>Series 1998) >>>>is not going to make that any easier in the future... ;) >>>> >>>>ronny >>> >>>Since I bought Rfactor 2 weeks ago I haven't played any other sim, >>>it's awesome. The major thing lacking is changeable weather now.. >>>and a decent '67 F1 mod would be nice ;) >>>Tried the one that was released a couple of weeks ago but those >>>physics were kind of crappy. > > Chad, please stop top posting. > > Anyway, at least in my case there's no stealing. I own both sims. > Of course, making sims mod friendly also invites swapping parts > between sims. This was/is going on for ever in the FPS genre. > And nobody gets into panic mode because of it. As soon as the next > sim is released with a better physics/graphics implementation, we > all are going to buy it again... > > ronny >

That might be the worst excuse I have ever heard. Sir, I didn't really like my meal, do you mind if I help myself to another for free? How many games over the years have you bought that didn't live up to expectations? I sure in the hell have bought many. "==--==" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YCgjh.510602$1T2.180570@pd7urf2no...

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>I think your point is very valid. > > I might feel bad about getting the download except that I placated myself > with the thought that this will make up for the money I "lost" on GTR (1). > I paid for that and it never really did what it was sold to do -- ie: > online racing - net code sucked - practically useless. > > So - although I typically agree with your view... not this time. ;) > > Cheers > ==--== > > > "Chad Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Frankly, call me a fuddy duddy, but this is complete BS imho. Completely >> ripped game, we wonder why proper sims can't prosper today, here is a >> prime example. No remorse at all from people for stealing another game. >> >> "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:36:04 +0100, Ronald Stoehr >>> <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> >>>>Man, just looking at the WIPs on rfactor central (esp. Fedex CART World >>>>Series 1998) >>>>is not going to make that any easier in the future... ;) >>>> >>>>ronny >>> >>> Since I bought Rfactor 2 weeks ago I haven't played any other sim, >>> it's awesome. The major thing lacking is changeable weather now.. >>> and a decent '67 F1 mod would be nice ;) >>> Tried the one that was released a couple of weeks ago but those >>> physics were kind of crappy. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Andre >> >> > >

On Dec 23, 4:28 pm, "Chad Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote: > That might be the worst excuse I have ever heard. Sir, I didn't really like > my meal, do you mind if I help myself to another for free? How many games > over the years have you bought that didn't live up to expectations? I sure > in the hell have bought many. Not entirely true. A truly good restaurant that wanted to keep your business WOULD offer a substitute meal. Of course, if you cleaned the plate, then I wouldn't expect that kind of response. But should I eat 2-3 bites and find the taste awful or the meal ill prepared, then most places would try and placate you. In the computer world, where it's too easy to buy, copy and return a software title, it's not as clear cut. I seem to recall, for GTR, that Simbin would refund your money if the product was returned to them. I checked the manual for the game and it's not there, so perhaps I read it on their forums when the game was still new and the complaints were frequent. Or perhaps, I imagined the whole thing! Simply put, the gaming industry needs a way to allow "taste tests" of the FULL version of games. IF a particular game is not what I (you..anyone) expected, I should be allowed to return it, like a pair of pants or a book. I don't seem to recall a huge outrage that book sellers are losing their shirts because ppl. buy a new book, read it and return it. The company that finds a way to successfully do this, will be VERY popular. rFactor is the closest I think. 10 day refund policy. Good deal, IMO.

==--== wrote: > Ron - please stop bottom posting > > I hate to have to scroll down past the quoted last message I just read! Well, some will never get it... > LOL Laughing, first sign of insecurity...gonna whistle next? ;) ronny

Yeah, ya nailed me alright - "Mr. Insecure" hahaha I can't ever remember being called that before - not sure whether to be insulted or not?! Enjoy your Season :) ==--== "Ronald Stoehr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:emkepu$hoh$[email hidden]...

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> ==--== wrote: >> Ron - please stop bottom posting >> >> I hate to have to scroll down past the quoted last message I just read! > > Well, some will never get it... > >> LOL > > Laughing, first sign of insecurity...gonna whistle next? ;) > > ronny

Yup me too. Piles of them in the basement. Your point? I've sent back a meal before... and SimBin is welcome to come and pickup the starforce infected, 10 minutes to load, crashing, warping, disaster smashup-warp-starts, et al. If I sent it back I wouldn't get my money back - or a new "meal". Besides - it wasn't an excuse. or at least it certainly wasn't meant to be one - I'm completely guilt free on this issue. Thank You. "Chad Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> That might be the worst excuse I have ever heard. Sir, I didn't really > like my meal, do you mind if I help myself to another for free? How many > games over the years have you bought that didn't live up to expectations? > I sure in the hell have bought many. > > "==--==" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:YCgjh.510602$1T2.180570@pd7urf2no... >>I think your point is very valid. >> >> I might feel bad about getting the download except that I placated myself >> with the thought that this will make up for the money I "lost" on GTR >> (1). I paid for that and it never really did what it was sold to do -- >> ie: online racing - net code sucked - practically useless. >> >> So - although I typically agree with your view... not this time. ;) >> >> Cheers >> ==--== >> >> >> "Chad Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> Frankly, call me a fuddy duddy, but this is complete BS imho. >>> Completely ripped game, we wonder why proper sims can't prosper today, >>> here is a prime example. No remorse at all from people for stealing >>> another game. >>> >>> "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >>> news:[email hidden]... >>>> On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:36:04 +0100, Ronald Stoehr >>>> <[email hidden]> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Man, just looking at the WIPs on rfactor central (esp. Fedex CART World >>>>>Series 1998) >>>>>is not going to make that any easier in the future... ;) >>>>> >>>>>ronny >>>> >>>> Since I bought Rfactor 2 weeks ago I haven't played any other sim, >>>> it's awesome. The major thing lacking is changeable weather now.. >>>> and a decent '67 F1 mod would be nice ;) >>>> Tried the one that was released a couple of weeks ago but those >>>> physics were kind of crappy. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Andre >>> >>> >> >> > >