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Longtime N1, N2, N3 Racer Needs Help With N2002...

6 posts by 5 people · 03 Mar 2003 16:43 UTC - 04 Mar 2003 20:55 UTC

Ford 500 03 Mar 2003 16:43 UTC#74044
Hi all. I have always been a big fan of the NASCAR Racing series for the PC since N1. I have raced N1, N2 and N3, and had put off getting N4 for a long time. Through the advice that was given to someone else on this NG, I decided to skip N4 and go for N2002, would've gotten N2003, except the price difference. I'm having a problem with it, that I'm sure there is something I'm not noticing or not doing. I can go to Daytona or Talladega and I'm able to control the car, even on the fast setup, but if I go to any of the other tracks, especially the short tracks, the car is uncontrollable at best. I'm running a Thrustmaster Pro Digital 2 Racing Wheel, and I'm running N2002 with no patch. Should I download the patch, and if so what would it fix? Should I update the drivers for the Thrustmaster? I also realize that the driving model is different than N1, N2 and N3. I also saw a link on this NG, www.sportplanet.com I think it was. And I downloaded the driving and setup guide. In the setup guide it mentioned that you should try to drive consistent laps on all three setups included with N2002. But the problem is at any track other that the two that I've mentioned, I can't even get the car to turn without the back end coming around. I'm running a 65% Steering Linearity setting, should I be running it different? If I could just get this figured out, I'll be happy. And if I learn how to drive a different way, I'll gladly do it. Also, I've never went through a multiplayer race. My questions on this are, is it free? Also, I don't have broadband, would it even be worth it on dial-up? And if I do decide to start, what leagues are out there and are there any leagues for N1, N2 and N3 still? My last two questions is, what are the main differences in N4 and N2002, and what are the main differences between N2002 and N2003. I realize that you all are probably rolling your eyes, because these are dumb questions, but I would really appreciate any help you all could give me, because I really love the NASCAR Racing series, and I'm sad to see it go, but I love finally getting to race at Daytona. :-) Thanks for any help or suggestions you could give. :-) Tommy Thomas
Without trying to sound like an ass, starting with N4 you actually had to drive the Nascar series games. You can no longer stomp on the gas pedal and crank the wheel. 2k3 is even more difficult in regard to stomping on the gas than N4 and 2k2. I remember when N4 came out there will plenty of people that couldn't drive them at all(guys who didn't run GPL). There is no magic trick, you just need to lap and forget how you were able to drive in previous versions. Goodluck and go out and get 2k3, it's a vastly better game IMHO than 2k2, Chad "Ford 500" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi all. I have always been a big fan of the NASCAR Racing series for thePC > since N1. I have raced N1, N2 and N3, and had put off getting N4 for along > time. Through the advice that was given to someone else on this NG, Idecided > to skip N4 and go for N2002, would've gotten N2003, except the price > difference. I'm having a problem with it, that I'm sure there is somethingI'm > not noticing or not doing. I can go to Daytona or Talladega and I'm ableto > control the car, even on the fast setup, but if I go to any of the other > tracks, especially the short tracks, the car is uncontrollable at best.I'm > running a Thrustmaster Pro Digital 2 Racing Wheel, and I'm running N2002with > no patch. Should I download the patch, and if so what would it fix? ShouldI > update the drivers for the Thrustmaster? > > I also realize that the driving model is different than N1, N2 and N3. Ialso > saw a link on this NG, www.sportplanet.com I think it was. And Idownloaded the > driving and setup guide. In the setup guide it mentioned that you shouldtry to > drive consistent laps on all three setups included with N2002. But theproblem > is at any track other that the two that I've mentioned, I can't even getthe > car to turn without the back end coming around. I'm running a 65% Steering > Linearity setting, should I be running it different? If I could just getthis > figured out, I'll be happy. And if I learn how to drive a different way,I'll > gladly do it. Also, I've never went through a multiplayer race. Myquestions on > this are, is it free? Also, I don't have broadband, would it even be worthit > on dial-up? And if I do decide to start, what leagues are out there andare > there any leagues for N1, N2 and N3 still? My last two questions is, whatare > the main differences in N4 and N2002, and what are the main differencesbetween > N2002 and N2003. > > I realize that you all are probably rolling your eyes, because these aredumb > questions, but I would really appreciate any help you all could give me, > because I really love the NASCAR Racing series, and I'm sad to see it go,but I > love finally getting to race at Daytona. :-) > > Thanks for any help or suggestions you could give. :-) > > Tommy Thomas >
And also, make sure you have your Brake and Gas pedals as TWO separate axes, do not have it setup as a combined axis. I'm running NR2003. I play online with DSL, but play against people using 56K with no problems most of the time. I have linearity way up at around 95%. Turn on "ideal racing line" and use it as a guide to learn how to drive without spinning. It shouldn't take you long if you get nice and smooth on the inputs. Short tracks are difficult, you have to brake and turn in while keeping the car balanced. Start slow and slowly increase your speed. Good luck. "Chad Rogers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fmN8a.296786$SD6.15791@sccrnsc03... > Without trying to sound like an ass, starting with N4 you actually had to > drive the Nascar series games. You can no longer stomp on the gas pedaland
Quoted text (20 lines)> crank the wheel. 2k3 is even more difficult in regard to stomping on the > gas than N4 and 2k2. I remember when N4 came out there will plenty of > people that couldn't drive them at all(guys who didn't run GPL). There is > no magic trick, you just need to lap and forget how you were able to drive > in previous versions. > > Goodluck and go out and get 2k3, it's a vastly better game IMHO than 2k2, > > Chad > > "Ford 500" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all. I have always been a big fan of the NASCAR Racing series for the > PC > > since N1. I have raced N1, N2 and N3, and had put off getting N4 for a > long > > time. Through the advice that was given to someone else on this NG, I > decided > > to skip N4 and go for N2002, would've gotten N2003, except the price > > difference. I'm having a problem with it, that I'm sure there is
something
Quoted text (9 lines)> I'm > > not noticing or not doing. I can go to Daytona or Talladega and I'm able > to > > control the car, even on the fast setup, but if I go to any of the other > > tracks, especially the short tracks, the car is uncontrollable at best. > I'm > > running a Thrustmaster Pro Digital 2 Racing Wheel, and I'm running N2002 > with > > no patch. Should I download the patch, and if so what would it fix?
Should
Quoted text (14 lines)> I > > update the drivers for the Thrustmaster? > > > > I also realize that the driving model is different than N1, N2 and N3. I > also > > saw a link on this NG, www.sportplanet.com I think it was. And I > downloaded the > > driving and setup guide. In the setup guide it mentioned that you should > try to > > drive consistent laps on all three setups included with N2002. But the > problem > > is at any track other that the two that I've mentioned, I can't even get > the > > car to turn without the back end coming around. I'm running a 65%
Steering
Quoted text (7 lines)> > Linearity setting, should I be running it different? If I could just get > this > > figured out, I'll be happy. And if I learn how to drive a different way, > I'll > > gladly do it. Also, I've never went through a multiplayer race. My > questions on > > this are, is it free? Also, I don't have broadband, would it even be
worth > it > > on dial-up? And if I do decide to start, what leagues are out there and > are > > there any leagues for N1, N2 and N3 still? My last two questions is,what
Quoted text (9 lines)> are > > the main differences in N4 and N2002, and what are the main differences > between > > N2002 and N2003. > > > > I realize that you all are probably rolling your eyes, because these are > dumb > > questions, but I would really appreciate any help you all could give me, > > because I really love the NASCAR Racing series, and I'm sad to see it
go,
Quoted text (9 lines)> but I > > love finally getting to race at Daytona. :-) > > > > Thanks for any help or suggestions you could give. :-) > > > > Tommy Thomas > > > >
If you're losing the back end, you are probably just going too fast into the corner. Start out real slow and slowly start increasing your speed through the corners until you feel it start to get a little loose. You can also try adding some wedge to tighten it up in the corners. -Tim
Tim Miser wrote: > If you're losing the back end, you are probably just going too fast into the > corner. Start out real slow and slowly start increasing your speed through > the corners until you feel it start to get a little loose. You can also try > adding some wedge to tighten it up in the corners. > > -Tim I have the exact opposite problem: at Michigan I have no problems at speed (best lap is in the 188's-no draft), but when I baby her into the turns at the start-before the tires get heated up-half the time I'll go into a sudden inexplicable spin, even if I am nowhere near the maximum speed for that turn. I've played with several different linear settings (make it too high and she gets real twitchy), and have tried to tighten up the setup, but I'll still swap ends half the time on the warmup lap. Very maddening when I am enjoying the rest of the sim. John DiFool -- ============================================ Reach heaven far too high ============================================
I'm always real loose the first 2-3 laps until the tires get heated up so maybe it's just a tire heat issue. "John DiFool" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Tim Miser wrote: > > > If you're losing the back end, you are probably just going too fast intothe > > corner. Start out real slow and slowly start increasing your speedthrough > > the corners until you feel it start to get a little loose. You can alsotry
Quoted text (21 lines)> > adding some wedge to tighten it up in the corners. > > > > -Tim > > I have the exact opposite problem: at Michigan I have no problems > at speed (best lap is in the 188's-no draft), but when I baby her into > the turns at the start-before the tires get heated up-half the time I'll > go into a sudden inexplicable spin, even if I am nowhere near the > maximum speed for that turn. I've played with several different linear > settings (make it too high and she gets real twitchy), and have tried to > tighten up the setup, but I'll still swap ends half the time on the warmup > lap. Very maddening when I am enjoying the rest of the sim. > > John DiFool > > -- > ============================================ > Reach heaven far too high > ============================================ > >

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