Ti4800SE or 9500 Pro for N2003?

Putting together a mid level system: AMD 2400 XP nForce2 mobo 512 Mb PC2100 etc Looking for good bang-for-buck out of vidcard. Would the DX9 features on the 9500 Pro help with the DX9 N2003? Or do I stick with the tried and trusted GF4 Ti family? An article in THG was saying that NASCAR 2003 used DX9 pixel shaders: "As far as PS1.4 support in currently available games is concerned - ATi has published the following list. Decide for yourself: UT2003 Madden 2003 Tiger Woods 2003 Nascar 2003 NeverWinter Nights (actually OGL equivalent). DOOM3 will have a path that will use the equivalent of PS1.4 as well. (ATI was struck by the big snow storm and their dev-team was not available in full strength. We look forward to receive a more detailed list)" Does this actually mean anything significant? I ain't got a clue. Decisions, decisions... Regards, Mark

Its true that the 9500 Pro is DX9 capable, but according to papyrus, NR2003 is only a DX8.1 title, and officially that is all that is required to play it, DX9 is just a recommendation. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash "Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Putting together a mid level system: > AMD 2400 XP > nForce2 mobo > 512 Mb PC2100 > etc > > Looking for good bang-for-buck out of vidcard. Would the DX9 features > on the 9500 Pro help with the DX9 N2003? Or do I stick with the tried > and trusted GF4 Ti family? > > An article in THG was saying that NASCAR 2003 used DX9 pixel shaders: > > "As far as PS1.4 support in currently available games is concerned - > ATi has published the following list. Decide for yourself: > > UT2003 > Madden 2003 > Tiger Woods 2003 > Nascar 2003 > NeverWinter Nights (actually OGL equivalent). > DOOM3 will have a path that will use the equivalent of PS1.4 as well. > (ATI was struck by the big snow storm and their dev-team was not > available in full strength. We look forward to receive a more detailed > list)" > > Does this actually mean anything significant? I ain't got a clue. > > Decisions, decisions... > > Regards, > > Mark

I'd get a 9500 Pro. It's much much faster, cheaper, better FSAA/Ansio, and supports DX9. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1756&p=4 -Tim "Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Putting together a mid level system: > AMD 2400 XP > nForce2 mobo > 512 Mb PC2100 > etc > > Looking for good bang-for-buck out of vidcard. Would the DX9 features > on the 9500 Pro help with the DX9 N2003? Or do I stick with the tried > and trusted GF4 Ti family? > > An article in THG was saying that NASCAR 2003 used DX9 pixel shaders: > > "As far as PS1.4 support in currently available games is concerned - > ATi has published the following list. Decide for yourself: > > UT2003 > Madden 2003 > Tiger Woods 2003 > Nascar 2003 > NeverWinter Nights (actually OGL equivalent). > DOOM3 will have a path that will use the equivalent of PS1.4 as well. > (ATI was struck by the big snow storm and their dev-team was not > available in full strength. We look forward to receive a more detailed > list)" > > Does this actually mean anything significant? I ain't got a clue. > > Decisions, decisions... > > Regards, > > Mark

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> Putting together a mid level system: > AMD 2400 XP > nForce2 mobo > 512 Mb PC2100 > etc > > Looking for good bang-for-buck out of vidcard. Would the DX9 features > on the 9500 Pro help with the DX9 N2003? Or do I stick with the tried > and trusted GF4 Ti family? > > An article in THG was saying that NASCAR 2003 used DX9 pixel shaders: > > "As far as PS1.4 support in currently available games is concerned - > ATi has published the following list. Decide for yourself: > > UT2003 > Madden 2003 > Tiger Woods 2003 > Nascar 2003 > NeverWinter Nights (actually OGL equivalent). > DOOM3 will have a path that will use the equivalent of PS1.4 as well. > (ATI was struck by the big snow storm and their dev-team was not > available in full strength. We look forward to receive a more detailed > list)" > > Does this actually mean anything significant? I ain't got a clue. >

Ati's card its the best choice in this moment, go for 9500 pro or 9700. :) -- Automan ICQ # 1103727 http://autodesign.m4driving.sm

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> "Mark" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio > news:[email hidden]... > > Putting together a mid level system: > > AMD 2400 XP > > nForce2 mobo > > 512 Mb PC2100 > > etc > Ati's card its the best choice in this moment, go for 9500 pro or 9700. > :)

I'm not big on going latest, greatest, fastest, but I had a momentary lapse of resolve while the wife wasn't looking. Most I ever spent on a vidcard was �180 - that was a Rendition card for N2!! I just beat my record. I clicked the button next to the 9700 Pro 8-O. Probably not the best time to buy such a thing with beefier cards just around the corner to drop prices, but, hey, if I waited around on those grounds I'd never buy a damn thing. Bye-bye �250... Oh well. Regards, Mark

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> >> Ati's card its the best choice in this moment, go for 9500 pro or >> 9700. >> :) > > I'm not big on going latest, greatest, fastest, but I had a momentary > lapse of resolve while the wife wasn't looking. Most I ever spent on > a vidcard was �180 - that was a Rendition card for N2!! I just beat > my record. I clicked the button next to the 9700 Pro 8-O. Probably > not the best time to buy such a thing with beefier cards just around > the corner to drop prices, but, hey, if I waited around on those > grounds I'd never buy a damn thing. > > Bye-bye �250... > > Oh well. > > Regards, > > Mark

I am REALLY pissed at Nvidia. :) Their newest card, the FX is so small of an improvement that it doesn't even pass the 9700pro in some settings. IF Nivdia had hit a home run with the FX it would have forced ATI to immeadiately release thier 9900 pro and THAT would have resulted in markedly reduced prices for the 96 & 97xx vidio cards. Now they can sit on thier 9900 cards until Nvidia gets the next generation of FX cards ready for the street. dave henrie

IF Nivdia had hit a home run with the FX it would have > forced ATI to immeadiately release thier 9900 pro and THAT would have > resulted in markedly reduced prices for the 96 & 97xx vidio cards. whoops..typo there..that should have read the 9500 and 9700 video cards. dunno where that 96 came from. :) dave henrie

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> IF Nivdia had hit a home run with the FX it would have >> forced ATI to immeadiately release thier 9900 pro and THAT would have >> resulted in markedly reduced prices for the 96 & 97xx vidio cards. > > whoops..typo there..that should have read the 9500 and 9700 video cards. >dunno where that 96 came from. :) >dave henrie

Still fighting the 9500 Pro. Have replaced the motherboard, the Pro, updated the Bios, tried the card with another monitor, wouldn't light that one either. Quizzing Intel, no answer yet. May try another power supply. Don't know what's left. Sheeeesh! SPS

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> On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 18:53:32 GMT, Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> > wrote: > >> IF Nivdia had hit a home run with the FX it would have >>> forced ATI to immeadiately release thier 9900 pro and THAT would >>> have resulted in markedly reduced prices for the 96 & 97xx vidio >>> cards. >> >> whoops..typo there..that should have read the 9500 and 9700 video >> cards. >>dunno where that 96 came from. :) >>dave henrie > > Still fighting the 9500 Pro. Have replaced the motherboard, the Pro, > updated the Bios, tried the card with another monitor, wouldn't light > that one either. Quizzing Intel, no answer yet. May try another power > supply. Don't know what's left. Sheeeesh! > SPS >

If your motherboard has onboard video, you need to disable that in the system bios. Other than that...make sure you get rid of all the old drivers first and choose just a simple standard pci vga video. Then install new card. Are you making sure you plug the power cord from your computers power supply into the slot on the 9500 pro? The plug should look just like the power plugs for the hard drives and cdrom. dave henrie