TV repeat: Games developer goes real racing in "Faking It"...

The above show which has a complete moron get offered the chance to see if he can fake being a real racing driver in front of a panel of experts is repeated tonight on E4. Watch in horror as the c*nt completely squanders an opportunity most of us would sell family members for, and makes us sim-racers look like complete t!ts in the process. He thinks he knows better than the instructors because he's played "realistic" driving games... Oh dear, oh dear. Regards, Mark

"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted text (10 lines)

> The above show which has a complete moron get offered the chance to > see if he can fake being a real racing driver in front of a panel of > experts is repeated tonight on E4. > > Watch in horror as the c*nt completely squanders an opportunity most > of us would sell family members for, and makes us sim-racers look like > complete t!ts in the process. > > He thinks he knows better than the instructors because he's played > "realistic" driving games... Oh dear, oh dear.

I wont be watching. They picked a complete tosser to do it. It pisses me off that he totally wasted what ammounted to �10K+'s worth of training that ANYONE here would have put kidney's on ebay for. Doug

OH its so embarassing. Why on earth did they get such an idiotic console jockey to do it. I mean the guy has never used anything but his thumbs to drive before this :) If they had chosen a real sim racer i think they would have impressed a lot of ppl dan "Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted text (14 lines)

> The above show which has a complete moron get offered the chance to > see if he can fake being a real racing driver in front of a panel of > experts is repeated tonight on E4. > > Watch in horror as the c*nt completely squanders an opportunity most > of us would sell family members for, and makes us sim-racers look like > complete t!ts in the process. > > He thinks he knows better than the instructors because he's played > "realistic" driving games... Oh dear, oh dear. > > Regards, > > Mark

"Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b4n5lj$21a3id$[email hidden]... > OH its so embarassing. Why on earth did they get such an idiotic console > jockey to do it. I mean the guy has never used anything but his thumbs to > drive before this :) > If they had chosen a real sim racer i think they would have impressed alot > of ppl > dan I'm not convinced a sim racer would have done much better or worse in the car, but they'd have been a lot less arrogant, and would probably have fitted into the crowd better. Malc.

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fFFba.12423$Lq.991835@stones... > "Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b4n5lj$21a3id$[email hidden]... > > OH its so embarassing. Why on earth did they get such an idiotic console > > jockey to do it. I mean the guy has never used anything but his thumbsto

Quoted text (11 lines)

> > drive before this :) > > If they had chosen a real sim racer i think they would have impressed a > lot > > of ppl > > dan > > I'm not convinced a sim racer would have done much better or worse in the > car, but they'd have been a lot less arrogant, and would probably have > fitted into the crowd better. > > Malc.

They'd probably have done better just because they'd appreciate the instructors - listen to them - and do what they said - instead of ignoring them and doing whatever they wanted Doug

I AM convinced a real sim racer would have done better. This guy clearly has no talent in his whole body..whereas i think ppl who are -50 or better(as an example)do have talent. Just look at the highly ranked gplers who race for real..most of them do much better than average dan "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fFFba.12423$Lq.991835@stones... > "Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b4n5lj$21a3id$[email hidden]... > > OH its so embarassing. Why on earth did they get such an idiotic console > > jockey to do it. I mean the guy has never used anything but his thumbsto

Quoted text (13 lines)

> > drive before this :) > > If they had chosen a real sim racer i think they would have impressed a > lot > > of ppl > > dan > > I'm not convinced a sim racer would have done much better or worse in the > car, but they'd have been a lot less arrogant, and would probably have > fitted into the crowd better. > > Malc. > >

"Mark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted text (10 lines)

> The above show which has a complete moron get offered the chance to > see if he can fake being a real racing driver in front of a panel of > experts is repeated tonight on E4. > > Watch in horror as the c*nt completely squanders an opportunity most > of us would sell family members for, and makes us sim-racers look like > complete t!ts in the process. > > He thinks he knows better than the instructors because he's played > "realistic" driving games... Oh dear, oh dear.

Too bad I don't get E4 overhere, but I was curious and looked it up on the web. Found a couple of sites: Some comments from the guy (Phil Deane) himself: http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/F/fakingit/where/ A word from his mentor (Duncan Vercoe): http://tinyurl.com/7bm3 Although I didn't see the show, I think I get the idea :-) It's a shame. Ice D

"Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b4n9gs$215m58$[email hidden]... > I AM convinced a real sim racer would have done better. This guy clearlyhas > no talent in his whole body..whereas i think ppl who are -50 or better(asan > example)do have talent. Just look at the highly ranked gplers who race for > real..most of them do much better than average > dan With respect Dan, your level of ability is the exception rather than the rule ;-) I'm -45 on GPLRank but I'm old & unfit. That's why I race online rather than in RL really. That and the money ;-) There's alot less to fear in a sim race than RL racing, and I think that if you could cherry pick the right sim racer (young, fairly fit, total lack of fear) they'd do well. But the only advantage sim-racing would give is knowledge, and that can be a severe handicap when someone is trying to teach you how to behave and react. It's already programmed in. As I said, I'm not convinced sim-racing makes you drive a real race car any quicker, that's just natural ability and experience. I think a sim racer would have been more convincing to the Judges though. Malc. > "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:fFFba.12423$Lq.991835@stones... > > I'm not convinced a sim racer would have done much better or worse inthe > > car, but they'd have been a lot less arrogant, and would probably have > > fitted into the crowd better. > > > > Malc.

They should have picked marc mercer:) he would have won that race, got a FPA or f3 seat and been a future f1 wdc :o) dan "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:w6Gba.12427$Lq.992457@stones... > "Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b4n9gs$215m58$[email hidden]... > > I AM convinced a real sim racer would have done better. This guy clearly > has > > no talent in his whole body..whereas i think ppl who are -50 orbetter(as > an > > example)do have talent. Just look at the highly ranked gplers who racefor > > real..most of them do much better than average > > dan > > With respect Dan, your level of ability is the exception rather than the > rule ;-) > I'm -45 on GPLRank but I'm old & unfit. That's why I race online ratherthan > in RL really. That and the money ;-) > > There's alot less to fear in a sim race than RL racing, and I think thatif > you could cherry pick the right sim racer (young, fairly fit, total lackof > fear) they'd do well. > > But the only advantage sim-racing would give is knowledge, and that can bea > severe handicap when someone is trying to teach you how to behave andreact. > It's already programmed in. > > As I said, I'm not convinced sim-racing makes you drive a real race carany

Quoted text (17 lines)

> quicker, that's just natural ability and experience. I think a sim racer > would have been more convincing to the Judges though. > > Malc. > > > > > "Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:fFFba.12423$Lq.991835@stones... > > > I'm not convinced a sim racer would have done much better or worse in > the > > > car, but they'd have been a lot less arrogant, and would probably have > > > fitted into the crowd better. > > > > > > Malc. > >

> Although I didn't see the show, I think I get the idea :-) It's a shame. > > Ice D He was the sort of chap who you wouldnt piss on if he was burning Doug

He was the sort of chap who you wouldnt***on if he was burning Doug

[email hidden] (Mark) wrote here on 12 Mar 2003: > The above show which has a complete moron get offered the chance > to see if he can fake being a real racing driver in front of a > panel of experts is repeated tonight on E4.<snip> Another reason to be grateful I can't get E4... -- Above address *is* valid - but snip spamtrap to get me to *read*!

"Doug Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<b4n5c3$21fvmb$[email hidden]>... > I wont be watching. They picked a complete tosser to do it. > > It pisses me off that he totally wasted what ammounted to �10K+'s worth of > training that ANYONE here would have put kidney's on ebay for. What galls me most is that the others I've seen in this series seem like genuine attempts at fooling pros - be it Show Jumping, DJ-ing, or whatever. IMO, video games being part of the subject and having such a geeky rep, the makers went out of their way to take the piss. Can't think of any other reason they went with this twat. I wouldn't have wanted to be the guy that the wanker actually overtook in the race! Regards, Mark

"Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dWFba.117390$[email hidden]... > Some comments from the guy (Phil Deane) himself: > http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/F/fakingit/where/ "But I think that I'm a good listener. " Oh cripes. If anything, he *refused* to listen to *anything* he was told. And I seem to remember the barriers went right up when he met the coach who's job it was to get him to walk, talk and act like a successful race driver. He would have *none* of it. If you never caught it first time around and you've got E4, you've gotta check it out. Regards, Mark Davison http://www.markdavison.clara.net/OVAL/ "No more rhymes, now. I mean it!" "Anybody wanna peanut?"

"Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b4n9gs$215m58$[email hidden]... > I AM convinced a real sim racer would have done better. This guy clearlyhas > no talent in his whole body..whereas i think ppl who are -50 or better(asan > example)do have talent. Just look at the highly ranked gplers who race for > real..most of them do much better than average IMO a sim-racer would undoubtedly have done better. Apart from the fact of understanding lines, balancing the car ala GPL etc, the main area he lost out on was the utter bollocks he spouted under questioning. When asked about Schumacher's talent and how he was different a few remarks on understanding of slip angles, commitment, politics, desire etc would have got him off the hook instantly, and is something any GPL jockey could answer easily. John

"I have already approached three companies in Lincoln, but they all are waiting to see the programme before they commit." This guy is actually considering going further in racing? Hah! JB

> If you never caught it first time around and you've got E4, you've gotta > check it out. I caught a promo for an episode of "Faking It" on TLC here in the States. Looks like we may be so lucky... -jde

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:32:37 -0500, J.D. Ellis wrote:

Quoted text (9 lines)

> >> If you never caught it first time around and you've got E4, you've gotta >> check it out. > > I caught a promo for an episode of "Faking It" on TLC here in the > States. Looks like we may be so lucky... > > -jde >

all this talk has gotten me really interested into the actual episode. Would some brit care to convert it to mpg / divx and put it up for download somewhere, please? Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

"Malc" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<fFFba.12423$Lq.991835@stones>...

Quoted text (15 lines)

> "Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b4n5lj$21a3id$[email hidden]... > > OH its so embarassing. Why on earth did they get such an idiotic console > > jockey to do it. I mean the guy has never used anything but his thumbs to > > drive before this :) > > If they had chosen a real sim racer i think they would have impressed a > lot > > of ppl > > dan > > I'm not convinced a sim racer would have done much better or worse in the > car, but they'd have been a lot less arrogant, and would probably have > fitted into the crowd better. > > Malc.

I'm pretty sure a sim racer, a good one, would have impressed a lot of ppl. Last week I went back in italy to meet a lof of guys involved in nK... we decided to have a go with karts.. real karts. Among us there was Aristotelis Vasilakos, one of the best GPL and Nascar drivers in italy, possibly in the world.. you pick the game and he gives you 2-4 seconds a lap.. Well... on real karts.. guess what? He made a lot of mistakes everywhere but he gave me 9 seconds on a 43sec lap.. what a shame :-(...ok I suck.. but.. I think you get the point. My opinion is, if you're fast with sims.. you're likely to be fast in RL.. stefano

> My opinion is, if you're fast with sims.. you're likely to be fast in > RL.. I think so, too. After simming since F1GP, and starting karting last year, I think simming is much harder. I'm not the quickest, but I'm up there in the quickest new drivers. R.