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What is the best gamepad to use for racing games on PC ??

14 posts by 9 people · 19 Mar 2003 00:18 UTC - 24 Mar 2003 07:58 UTC

Jean 19 Mar 2003 00:18 UTC#72774
I think the ideal choice should have two analog sticks and 2 analog triggers on front.. and rumble.. Many PC gamepads with 2 analogs sticks but none with analog trigger... I don't want a wheel, nospace.. Are they anay good PC gamepad or should I use an adpater with the xbox or gamecube controller ? Thanks
"Jean" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jHOda.23696$[email hidden]... > I think the ideal choice should have two analog sticks and 2 analogtriggers
Quoted text (11 lines)> on front.. and rumble.. > > Many PC gamepads with 2 analogs sticks but none with analog trigger... > > I don't want a wheel, nospace.. > > Are they anay good PC gamepad or should I use an adpater with the xbox or > gamecube controller ? > > Thanks >
I've done very well with a Logitech Rumblepad. It takes a while to develop a fine finger control on the two sticks, but it works really well. I have no troubles matching my best wheel times in GPL with the pad, using the two shoulder buttons for shifting, the left stick for steering and the right for throttle / brakes. The only thing you can't do is trail brake, but with only two hands, I don't think any controller is going to let you do that unless you are a concert pianist. The rudimentary rumble effects actually give you a decent "feel" for what the car is doing in GPL, with distinctly different wobbly pulses for wheelspin, brake lock and understeer. I use it with my notebook and have GPL anywhere, anytime. I hardly take out my wheel anymore. Stephen
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:18:21 -0500, Jean wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)> I think the ideal choice should have two analog sticks and 2 analog triggers > on front.. and rumble.. > > Many PC gamepads with 2 analogs sticks but none with analog trigger... > > I don't want a wheel, nospace.. > > Are they anay good PC gamepad or should I use an adpater with the xbox or > gamecube controller ? > > Thanks
the xbox gamepad can be converted for use on the pc and has all the right features.
"Stephen F." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<3e78216b$[email hidden]>... > I've done very well with a Logitech Rumblepad. It takes a while to develop > a fine finger control on the two sticks, but it works really well. The Logitech rumblepad works very good with GPL and other sims. As the previous poster said, the FF gives you enough feedback to really improve your times. My only complaint is that there's not another axis for "left foot braking", but that's true of all game pads (that I am aware of). A hint on the Logitech - pull off the plastic joystick knobs and you'll have two metal rods sticking up. If you get used to them, you'll have even finer control in twitchy steering situations. I bought a cheap no-name PC rumblepad at Wal-Mart, but it was distincly inferior to the Logitech and I took it right back. Don't waste your time and money. Another good PC gamepad to check out is the newer Thrustmaster rumblepad. I don't have any gaming experience with it, but it felt good in my hands at the store. Better than the Logitech, actually. And they also have a wireless version of it. If I hadn't already bought the Logitech, I probably would have bought the Thrustmaster instead. - Ted
Ice D 19 Mar 2003 22:07 UTC↳ reply to Ted D.#72635
"Ted D." <[email hidden]> wrote: > Another good PC gamepad to check out is the newer Thrustmaster > rumblepad. I don't have any gaming experience with it, but it felt > good in my hands at the store. Better than the Logitech, actually. And > they also have a wireless version of it. If I hadn't already bought > the Logitech, I probably would have bought the Thrustmaster instead. I've bought the Thrustmaster Firestorm Dual Power recently, and I'm happy with it, good quality. They also have a custom Ferrari pad, especially for racing games. It might be worth checking out, it looks pretty cool anyway: http://tinyurl.com/7sr0 Ice D
Jean 19 Mar 2003 23:08 UTC↳ reply to Ice D#72694
Thanks will go try the thrusmaster.... didn't succed yet to find the ferrari pad for sale online in Canada ? "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ES5ea.160799$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> > "Ted D." <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > Another good PC gamepad to check out is the newer Thrustmaster > > rumblepad. I don't have any gaming experience with it, but it felt > > good in my hands at the store. Better than the Logitech, actually. And > > they also have a wireless version of it. If I hadn't already bought > > the Logitech, I probably would have bought the Thrustmaster instead. > > I've bought the Thrustmaster Firestorm Dual Power recently, and I'm happy > with it, good quality. They also have a custom Ferrari pad, especially for > racing games. It might be worth checking out, it looks pretty cool anyway: > > http://tinyurl.com/7sr0 > > Ice D > >
"Ted D." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Stephen F." <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<3e78216b$[email hidden]>... > > > I've done very well with a Logitech Rumblepad. It takes a while todevelop
Quoted text (8 lines)> > a fine finger control on the two sticks, but it works really well. > > The Logitech rumblepad works very good with GPL and other sims. As > the previous poster said, the FF gives you enough feedback to really > improve your times. My only complaint is that there's not another axis > for "left foot braking", but that's true of all game pads (that I am > aware of). >
Like I said before, I think you would have to be a concert pianist to do this effectively, but perhaps I underestimate the finger dexterity of people who really use gamepads a lot. I grew up with simple joysticks, starting way back with the Atari 2600! I find I literally have my hands full managing to use my left thumb for steering and look left/right, right thumb for gas / throttle / hand up, left index finger for shift up and right index finger for shift down. My other fingers are too spastic from years of canoeing and mountain biking to have any sort of fine control. What I have tried with mixed results is to define the vertical axis of the right stick from centre to top for throttle, and the horizontal axis of the right stick from centre to right for brake. If I follow a circular arc from full throttle to full braking, I effectively have some trail braking, but it didn't do much for my times or control without true independent control of the two. Stephen
Donovan 20 Mar 2003 10:10 UTC↳ reply to Jean#72732
If you have a good quality gameport on your system and are using Windows 9x, I'd recommend trying to track down a Gravis Xterminator digital . I almost always race with my Logitech wheel but use my gamepads for Superbike 2001 and Motorcross Maddness; just seems more natural to use a gamepad for these. I own the following gamepads; Xterminator digital(gameport), Logitech Rumble Pad, Logitech Cordless. Of these the Xterminator is definitely the best gamepad and by far the best for racing games. I haven't tried the Xterminator Force Feedback yet, but it might be worth a look too. I connect my Xterminator digital to a CH Products Gamecard 3 and the combination is outstanding. The few times I used it with GPL I configured it for the Generic input instead of Direct input, which seemed bo be much better; wish I could do this for my wheel. My newer system doesn't have ISA slots so I'm out of luck using this combination; had to relegate it to my older system. Just tonight I fired up NHL 99 on my 2nd system and I couldn't believe how smooth and accurate the control was with the Xterminator! I like my Logitech pads and would recommend them if you only have USB inputs, but my Xterminator is a much better quality gamepad in every regard. Donovan "Jean" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<TL6ea.58339$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (25 lines)> Thanks will go try the thrusmaster.... didn't succed yet to find the > ferrari pad for sale online in Canada ? > > > > "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ES5ea.160799$[email hidden]... > > > > "Ted D." <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > Another good PC gamepad to check out is the newer Thrustmaster > > > rumblepad. I don't have any gaming experience with it, but it felt > > > good in my hands at the store. Better than the Logitech, actually. And > > > they also have a wireless version of it. If I hadn't already bought > > > the Logitech, I probably would have bought the Thrustmaster instead. > > > > I've bought the Thrustmaster Firestorm Dual Power recently, and I'm happy > > with it, good quality. They also have a custom Ferrari pad, especially for > > racing games. It might be worth checking out, it looks pretty cool anyway: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/7sr0 > > > > Ice D > > > >
the great galooga <"the great galooga "@home.com> wrote in message news:<XP%da.255917$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (16 lines)> On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 19:18:21 -0500, Jean wrote: > > > I think the ideal choice should have two analog sticks and 2 analog triggers > > on front.. and rumble.. > > > > Many PC gamepads with 2 analogs sticks but none with analog trigger... > > > > I don't want a wheel, nospace.. > > > > Are they anay good PC gamepad or should I use an adpater with the xbox or > > gamecube controller ? > > > > Thanks > > the xbox gamepad can be converted for use on the pc and has all the right > features.
I use a PS2 Dualshock2 gamepad with a USB converter, that lets me plug it into the USB port on the PC. Works VERY nicely and is highly programable. I also like my old original MS Sidewinder gamepad and the way you can easily map keyboad/keystrokes to the button on the gamepad and have them saved in auto-launching files for your various games. Jay J
RG 22 Mar 2003 16:31 UTC↳ reply to Jean#72457
"Jean" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<jHOda.23696$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (11 lines)> I think the ideal choice should have two analog sticks and 2 analog triggers > on front.. and rumble.. > > Many PC gamepads with 2 analogs sticks but none with analog trigger... > > I don't want a wheel, nospace.. > > Are they anay good PC gamepad or should I use an adpater with the xbox or > gamecube controller ? > > Thanks
If you like racing games, but don't have the space for a wheel, then you may want to consider a hand held InterAct UltraRacer controller for the Playstation with a PSX to USB converter. The UltraRacer has an analog wheel, analog trigger, two analog buttons, and a bunch of push buttons. I find this combination ideal for use with my laptop. There is a link to a picture below. http://rsdg.net/images/forum_posts/alms2go.jpg RG Racing Sim Developers Group RSDG.net
Ice D 23 Mar 2003 18:37 UTC↳ reply to RG#72358
"RG" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)> If you like racing games, but don't have the space for a wheel, then > you may want to consider a hand held InterAct UltraRacer controller > for the Playstation with a PSX to USB converter. The UltraRacer has an > analog wheel, analog trigger, two analog buttons, and a bunch of push > buttons. I find this combination ideal for use with my laptop. There > is a link to a picture below. > > http://rsdg.net/images/forum_posts/alms2go.jpg
That's probably the ugliest game controller I've ever seen! It looks like a Pong controller on steroids. Btw, how does it work, do you turn that round thing like an analog wheel? Ice D
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Quoted text (26 lines)> "Jean" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<jHOda.23696$[email hidden]>... > > I think the ideal choice should have two analog sticks and 2 analog triggers > > on front.. and rumble.. > > > > Many PC gamepads with 2 analogs sticks but none with analog trigger... > > > > I don't want a wheel, nospace.. > > > > Are they anay good PC gamepad or should I use an adpater with the xbox or > > gamecube controller ? > > > > Thanks > > If you like racing games, but don't have the space for a wheel, then > you may want to consider a hand held InterAct UltraRacer controller > for the Playstation with a PSX to USB converter. The UltraRacer has an > analog wheel, analog trigger, two analog buttons, and a bunch of push > buttons. I find this combination ideal for use with my laptop. There > is a link to a picture below. > > http://rsdg.net/images/forum_posts/alms2go.jpg > > RG > Racing Sim Developers Group > RSDG.net >
I'll go one better, waaaaaay better and say if you could get ahold of a NegCon twist controller made by Namco and use a PSX to USB adapter, THAT would be the best. I have a NegCon, and it was the greatest thing ever for playing Grand Tourismo. I crush all opponents when using it. So much fine control. I have a PSX to USB adapter, but have not tryed it with the NegCon yet, so I am not sure it would even work. But it would be a hoot playing GPL with it, just for a laugh. http://www.ncsx.com/ncs0330/ncs0413/negcon.jpg Yes, those two red buttons are analogue gas/brake. MRSisson -- LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN
RG 23 Mar 2003 22:59 UTC↳ reply to Ice D#72381
"Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<v9nfa.162458$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (7 lines)> > That's probably the ugliest game controller I've ever seen! It looks like a > Pong controller on steroids. > > Btw, how does it work, do you turn that round thing like an analog wheel? > > Ice D
hehe, yep. RG Racing Sim Development Group RSDG.net
"RG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Ice D" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<v9nfa.162458$[email hidden]>... > > > > > That's probably the ugliest game controller I've ever seen! It lookslike a > > Pong controller on steroids. > > > > Btw, how does it work, do you turn that round thing like an analogwheel? > > > > Ice D > > > hehe, yep. > I also had one for my notebook, and loved it while it worked, but it died after only a few months. Stephen

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