Trouble with Logitech MOMO wheel (red version)

Hi I have the logitech momo force wheel (the first red version), and I think there may be some defects with it. The problem is when driving with the wheel in center position it gives away a very high rattling/clattering noise. There is some slack on the steelwire/mechanism, I guess this could be the reason. Though this very high rattling sound only occures with the steering wheel when in approximately center position. This is a very annoying thing, especially when you play with a normal soundlevel on the speakers. It's been a while since I used the wheel the last time, but I think I remember that this was not a problem in the beginning when the steering wheel was new. Also the shaking/forcefeed-back effect is also much stronger when the wheel is centered. (I play mostly Need for speed 4 + 5). I'm not sure if these things really are defects or not, so some help or information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! - please send the reply to my emailadress: [email hidden]

I have read that the screws holding in the FF motor can back out. Pop off the cover and check out the insides. -- don ------------------------------------- BAPOM Alternative Program Covers for GPL http://www.trilon.com/bapom/ "Steinar Mikkelsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi > I have the logitech momo force wheel (the first red version), and I > think there may be some defects with it. The problem is when driving > with the wheel in center position it gives away a very high > rattling/clattering noise. There is some slack on the > steelwire/mechanism, I guess this could be the reason. Though this > very high rattling sound only occures with the steering wheel when in > approximately center position. This is a very annoying thing, > especially when you play with a normal soundlevel on the speakers. > It's been a while since I used the wheel the last time, but I think I > remember that this was not a problem in the beginning when the > steering wheel was new. Also the shaking/forcefeed-back effect is also > much stronger when the wheel is centered. (I play mostly Need for > speed 4 + 5). I'm not sure if these things really are defects or not, > so some help or information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks! > - > please send the reply to my emailadress: [email hidden]

Hi! Thanks for your reply. I've already tried what you suggest, but there wasn't any loose screws. (I guess you are referring the screws on the bottom on the plastic casing, which is used to connect the outer casing with the FF motor?) Also, it would be nice to know, if this rattling of the wheel/mechanism in center position is a normal thing, or this in fact is a hardware fault. I guess for some people this could be a minor issue, but I thought that the wheel should be feel absolutely tight, and don't give off any high rattling noice, even when it's vibrating in center position. Can anyone please confirm this. (-and same thing regarding the decrease in forcefeedback effects when you turn the wheel away from center position.) If this should be the case, I'll just return the thing now, while my garantuee period still is in effect. Thanks!

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> I have read that the screws holding in the FF motor can back out. Pop off > the cover and check out the insides. > > -- > don > > ------------------------------------- > BAPOM > Alternative Program Covers for GPL > http://www.trilon.com/bapom/ > > > "Steinar Mikkelsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi > > I have the logitech momo force wheel (the first red version), and I > > think there may be some defects with it. The problem is when driving > > with the wheel in center position it gives away a very high > > rattling/clattering noise. There is some slack on the > > steelwire/mechanism, I guess this could be the reason. Though this > > very high rattling sound only occures with the steering wheel when in > > approximately center position. This is a very annoying thing, > > especially when you play with a normal soundlevel on the speakers. > > It's been a while since I used the wheel the last time, but I think I > > remember that this was not a problem in the beginning when the > > steering wheel was new. Also the shaking/forcefeed-back effect is also > > much stronger when the wheel is centered. (I play mostly Need for > > speed 4 + 5). I'm not sure if these things really are defects or not, > > so some help or information would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks! > > - > > please send the reply to my emailadress: [email hidden]

[email hidden] (smikkel) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>... > Hi! > Thanks for your reply. I've already tried what you suggest, but there > wasn't any loose screws. (I guess you are referring the screws on the > bottom on the plastic casing, which is used to connect the outer > casing with the FF motor?) There is a recent similar thread. Each time you start up your PC and before you run in an auto-sim, you *must* rotate the wheel through it's entire travel left and right to calibrate. You do not need to be in the game devices control panel for this. Just do it anywhere before you drive. If you do not do this the results will be *exactly* as you describe.

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> Also, it would be nice to know, if this rattling of the > wheel/mechanism in center position is a normal thing, or this in fact > is a hardware fault. I guess for some people this could be a minor > issue, but I thought that the wheel should be feel absolutely tight, > and don't give off any high rattling noice, even when it's vibrating > in center position. Can anyone please confirm this. (-and same thing > regarding the decrease in forcefeedback effects when you turn the > wheel away from center position.) If this should be the case, I'll > just return the thing now, while my garantuee period still is in > effect.

From what I can find out (I asked this question months ago) it seems to be how these MOMO wheels are. Mine is certainly a very noisy rattler on high frequency FF effects - for example surface effects in Rally Trophy or spinning across the infield in NASCAR (not that I do this very often you understand!). You'll also get this effect if you run FF at the full setting in F12002. I guess it's trying to simulate engine vibrations coming throught the wheel? Crank it down to medium (or however the level are named) for a more satisfying experience. Regards, Mark

Hi. Thanks for the suggestions! I have read several places on the internet though, that the rattling effect can be fixed by opening the wheel-casing, and tighten the engine screws. This should remove the high rattling effect even on high freq FF effects, after what I understand. My problem is, I don't know what to look for. I removed the coverplate from the bottom of the red wheel-casing, and was afraid to start fooling around inside. I would really appreciate it, if someone could tell me where these screws (to tighten up the engine) are, so I get rid of this very annoying rattling sound. I've found some guides for disassembeling the wheel, but they don't tell me the information I need. (which screws to thighten up the engine...) I don't want to fool around with the momo mechanism any more than I have to.. :-) Again, thanks for the help!

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> From what I can find out (I asked this question months ago) it seems > to be how these MOMO wheels are. Mine is certainly a very noisy > rattler on high frequency FF effects - for example surface effects in > Rally Trophy or spinning across the infield in NASCAR (not that I do > this very often you understand!). > > You'll also get this effect if you run FF at the full setting in > F12002. I guess it's trying to simulate engine vibrations coming > throught the wheel? Crank it down to medium (or however the level are > named) for a more satisfying experience. > > Regards, > > Mark