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Anyone using projectors or TVs for display?

15 posts by 12 people · 20 Mar 2003 22:34 UTC - 25 Mar 2003 22:13 UTC

Glenn Andressen 20 Mar 2003 22:34 UTC#72673
Just wondering whether anybody is running their sims with a projector display or TV out. My cockpit rig is on casters so I wheel it in front of my desk when I want to drive, but I'd like to leave it out of the way and just switch displays... and I'd like a bigger display of course. I know TVs don't support as a high a res as a monitor, so how do you overcome that? Thanks in advance, Glenn
You don't. The only way that sim driving looks good on a big screen is if the tv is a HDTV model, or you are using a projection system capable of at least 1024x768 resolution. Just watching a replay or two, you will see that at 800x600 on any standard def tv just doesnt cut it, you really need a tv-out and a display of capable of 1024x768 or higher to make it look decent. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash "Careful Hack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:T6rea.4425$[email hidden]... > Just wondering whether anybody is running their sims with a projector > display or TV out. > > My cockpit rig is on casters so I wheel it in front of my desk when I > want to drive, but I'd like to leave it out of the way and just switch > displays... and I'd like a bigger display of course. > > I know TVs don't support as a high a res as a monitor, so how do you > overcome that? > > Thanks in advance, > Glenn >
"Careful Hack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:T6rea.4425$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Just wondering whether anybody is running their sims with a projector > display or TV out. > > My cockpit rig is on casters so I wheel it in front of my desk when I > want to drive, but I'd like to leave it out of the way and just switch > displays... and I'd like a bigger display of course. > > I know TVs don't support as a high a res as a monitor, so how do you > overcome that? > > Thanks in advance, > Glenn
Biz is right, you need an hdtv to get any decent PQ. Google for a post I did last week or so about NR2003 widescreen. Info on using powerstrip to get your PCon the big screen should be easy to google as well. It's worth the hassle if you have an HD set. Jeff
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 03:40:08 GMT, "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote: >You don't. The only way that sim driving looks good on a big screen is if the tv is a HDTV model, >or you are using a projection system capable of at least 1024x768 resolution. Just watching a >replay or two, you will see that at 800x600 on any standard def tv just doesnt cut it, you really >need a tv-out and a display of capable of 1024x768 or higher to make it look decent. If you don't mind regular TV output, digital signals for regular TV are 720x576 or 720x486 (NTSC) pixels. Fortunately a TV does nice analog blurring. ;-) I'd say you would come far on normal TV with 800x600; just turn on all the anti-aliasing (anisotropic) filtering things you have. Ruud van Gaal Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:34:22 +1100, Careful Hack <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)>Just wondering whether anybody is running their sims with a projector >display or TV out. > >My cockpit rig is on casters so I wheel it in front of my desk when I >want to drive, but I'd like to leave it out of the way and just switch >displays... and I'd like a bigger display of course. > >I know TVs don't support as a high a res as a monitor, so how do you >overcome that?
i'm using a video projector that can accept 1024x768 with VGA entry. So i use the second VGA-out, of the GeForce4 Sebastien TIXIER - Game Developer Dynamics and Car Physics http://www.eden-studios.fr GPLRank Normal:-44.24 Monster:-124.44 LFS GTI Online 1:30:62 LFS GTI Offline (HLVC) 1:31:14
Careful Hack <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<T6rea.4425$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (12 lines)> Just wondering whether anybody is running their sims with a projector > display or TV out. > > My cockpit rig is on casters so I wheel it in front of my desk when I > want to drive, but I'd like to leave it out of the way and just switch > displays... and I'd like a bigger display of course. > > I know TVs don't support as a high a res as a monitor, so how do you > overcome that? > > Thanks in advance, > Glenn
I run mine with an XGA-res data projector set up for an 85" display, which in cockpit view appears pretty much life-size. I've never done it, but would imagine running games from a PC into a standard-def TV would look like crap. Progressive HDTV might be OK, but except for a few models, you would need a VGA to component transcoder. Also, you can't get nearly as large a picture as with a front projection system. Check out the AVS Forums <http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/> for more information about this kind of stuff than you will want to digest. The HTPC forum <http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=26> deals directly with home theater computers, and while most people there are into movies, a number of the posters there are into games. Also check out the DIY Projectors forum <http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=20> on the DIY Audio site, if you think you might want to go that route. good luck, Gerald Gerald
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:34:22 +1100, Careful Hack wrote:
Quoted text (12 lines)> Just wondering whether anybody is running their sims with a projector > display or TV out. > > My cockpit rig is on casters so I wheel it in front of my desk when I > want to drive, but I'd like to leave it out of the way and just switch > displays... and I'd like a bigger display of course. > > I know TVs don't support as a high a res as a monitor, so how do you > overcome that? > > Thanks in advance, > Glenn
i use 1024x768 tv out tthrough 2.4 gig wireless to my 51" pioneer rear projection, and saitek wireless p-3000 gamepads. its sure nice playing pc games on the big screen.
What model TV is it? Does it truly support that high a resolution? How do you find the quality? Be curious how your doing wireless video? Is it just an RF signal or svideo? "the great galooga" <"the great galooga "@home.com> wrote in message news:R5Hea.268521$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:34:22 +1100, Careful Hack wrote: > > > Just wondering whether anybody is running their sims with a projector > > display or TV out. > > > > My cockpit rig is on casters so I wheel it in front of my desk when I > > want to drive, but I'd like to leave it out of the way and just switch > > displays... and I'd like a bigger display of course. > > > > I know TVs don't support as a high a res as a monitor, so how do you > > overcome that? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Glenn > > i use 1024x768 tv out tthrough 2.4 gig wireless to my 51" pioneer rear > projection, and saitek wireless p-3000 gamepads. > its sure nice playing pc games on the big screen.
>"the great galooga" <"the great galooga "@home.com> wrote > i use 1024x768 tv out tthrough 2.4 gig wireless to my 51" pioneer rear > projection, and saitek wireless p-3000 gamepads. > its sure nice playing pc games on the big screen. What about burn-in? Do you have any problem with playing sims that have non-moving information on the screen? (ex : the gear/speed pop-up in NR2003). Sometimes I think about using my Toshiba 65H80 as the out of my PC, but I really fear burn-in problems. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
Biz 25 Mar 2003 09:19 UTC↳ reply to ymenard#72286
A properly calibrated set will give you years of trouble free service without burn-in. Burn-in is a myth if you properly calibrate your set. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yJOfa.2589$[email hidden]... > >"the great galooga" <"the great galooga "@home.com> wrote > > i use 1024x768 tv out tthrough 2.4 gig wireless to my 51" pioneer rear > > projection, and saitek wireless p-3000 gamepads. > > its sure nice playing pc games on the big screen. > > > What about burn-in? Do you have any problem with playing sims that have > non-moving information on the screen? (ex : the gear/speed pop-up in > NR2003). > > > Sometimes I think about using my Toshiba 65H80 as the out of my PC, but I > really fear burn-in problems. > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > >
"Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2bVfa.23623$[email hidden]... > A properly calibrated set will give you years of trouble free servicewithout burn-in. Burn-in is a > myth if you properly calibrate your set. > -- > Biz > Or have a plasma TV. But those are anyway toasted after five years...
Stephen Ferguson 25 Mar 2003 10:16 UTC#530735
without burn-in. Burn-in is a Or have a plasma TV. But those are anyway toasted after five years...
I am using a NEC LT158 LCD projector with the DVI output from my Radeon 9700 at 1024x768 with a 70" screen and it looks great. Nice to have that kinda size. May want to look for a LCD projector on Ebay, can find refurbished ones pretty reasonable ($1000) when comparing to the cost of a projection TV.I also have a 50" Toshiba High def ready rear projection TV and hooked up N2003 with the S-Video out on my Radeon 9700 and it looked like crap. The LCD projector picture is far better and for less money. Steve
Schooner 25 Mar 2003 16:39 UTC↳ reply to StP#72212
Have you tried connecting to your HDTV with component/high def connection? SVideo is a bit limited. "StP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> I am using a NEC LT158 LCD projector with the DVI output from my > Radeon 9700 at 1024x768 with a 70" screen and it looks great. Nice to > have that kinda size. May want to look for a LCD projector on Ebay, > can find refurbished ones pretty reasonable ($1000) when comparing to > the cost of a projection TV.I also have a 50" Toshiba High def ready > rear projection TV and hooked up N2003 with the S-Video out on my > Radeon 9700 and it looked like crap. The LCD projector picture is far > better and for less money. Steve
Mitch_A 25 Mar 2003 22:13 UTC↳ reply to StP#72238
Dontchya need this HDTV adapter from ATI? http://mirror.ati.com/products/pc/hdtvadapter/index.html "StP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> I am using a NEC LT158 LCD projector with the DVI output from my > Radeon 9700 at 1024x768 with a 70" screen and it looks great. Nice to > have that kinda size. May want to look for a LCD projector on Ebay, > can find refurbished ones pretty reasonable ($1000) when comparing to > the cost of a projection TV.I also have a 50" Toshiba High def ready > rear projection TV and hooked up N2003 with the S-Video out on my > Radeon 9700 and it looked like crap. The LCD projector picture is far > better and for less money. Steve

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