FINALLY! A new CART SIM!?

Chris Pook hinted at last nights CART Town Meeting in LB that CART and Microsoft have done a deal for a new Personal Computer CART racing game. The deal was concluded recently. the word "game" has me worried though.......

Um i think the most worrying word is 'microsoft' have u tried rallisport challenge? :)its a joke dan "rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3YYfa.229878$S_4.136656@rwcrnsc53... > Chris Pook hinted at last nights CART Town Meeting in LB that CART andMicrosoft have done a deal > for a new Personal Computer CART racing game. The deal was concludedrecently. > > the word "game" has me worried though....... > >

Have u tried Microsoft's Cart Precision Racing.It's not even a joke.Pitiful. -- Steve H GPL Rank -13.90 Can't help about the shape i'm in Can't win,it ain't pretty and my tires are thin.. "Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b5pm9k$2bkd5a$[email hidden]... > Um i think the most worrying word is 'microsoft' have u tried rallisport > challenge? :)its a joke > dan > "rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3YYfa.229878$S_4.136656@rwcrnsc53... > > Chris Pook hinted at last nights CART Town Meeting in LB that CART and > Microsoft have done a deal > > for a new Personal Computer CART racing game. The deal was concluded > recently. > > > > the word "game" has me worried though....... > > > > > >

Yeah, there was a lot about CPR that sucked. But there were also aspects of it that were state-of-the-art, some of which stand up well even today. MS wouldn't likely be the developer anyway, so the key to whether an MS-published CART product is decent or not would be the target market they choose, and the developer who gets the contract. If I were MS, I'd get someone with a proven platform, track record, and respected name who could produce quality product quickly and cheaply. Hmmm, those Papy guys don't have anything useful to do these days... ;-) SB "straiton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1048602767.1015@teuthos... > Have u tried Microsoft's Cart Precision Racing.It's not even ajoke.Pitiful.

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> > -- > > Steve H > GPL Rank -13.90 > > Can't help about the shape i'm in > Can't win,it ain't pretty and my tires are thin.. > > "Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b5pm9k$2bkd5a$[email hidden]... > > Um i think the most worrying word is 'microsoft' have u tried rallisport > > challenge? :)its a joke > > dan > > "rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3YYfa.229878$S_4.136656@rwcrnsc53... > > > Chris Pook hinted at last nights CART Town Meeting in LB that CART and > > Microsoft have done a deal > > > for a new Personal Computer CART racing game. The deal was concluded > > recently. > > > > > > the word "game" has me worried though....... > > > > > > > > > > > >

"rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3YYfa.229878$S_4.136656@rwcrnsc53:

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> Chris Pook hinted at last nights CART Town Meeting in LB that CART > and Microsoft have done a deal > for a new Personal Computer CART racing game. The deal was concluded > recently. > > the word "game" has me worried though....... >

To a non-simmer. Any program with flying wwII planes or racin' cars or shooting up Aliens all fall under the category of 'game.' WE know differently...but then...WE 'ARE' different. dave henrie

Dave, One would hope that the powers to be at Microsoft still remember all those negative reviews and comments about CPR. One would think that if they're ready to try it again, that they now know the right direction to take. Joel Willstein -- "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a corner till the time you brake for the next turn , then you have enough horsepower." Mark Donohue "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:3YYfa.229878$S_4.136656@rwcrnsc53: > > > Chris Pook hinted at last nights CART Town Meeting in LB that CART > > and Microsoft have done a deal > > for a new Personal Computer CART racing game. The deal was concluded > > recently. > > > > the word "game" has me worried though....... > > > To a non-simmer. Any program with flying wwII planes or racin' cars or > shooting up Aliens all fall under the category of 'game.' WE know > differently...but then...WE 'ARE' different. > dave henrie

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> Dave, > > One would hope that the powers to be at Microsoft still remember > all > those negative reviews and comments about CPR. One would think that if > they're ready to try it again, that they now know the right direction > to take. > > Joel Willstein >

Are any of the current MS game division employees still the same from waaaay back when CPR was released? Memory only works if you were there to remember it. :) What I remember one of the developers chatting quite freely here about the pre-release of cpr. But when we started pointed out big-time errors...he disappeared faster than.... dave henrie

Dave Henrie wrote: > Are any of the current MS game division employees still the same from > waaaay back when CPR was released? Memory only works if you were there to > remember it. :) What I remember one of the developers chatting quite > freely here about the pre-release of cpr. But when we started pointed out > big-time errors...he disappeared faster than.... > dave henrie Ahh yes, Richard Harvey. He won't be making this one I'm sure. AvSim.com announced his death March 13th, after a long battle with cancer. :-( Type his name into Avsim's search box & the announcement, along with his picture, is the 4th one down. Titled "A hero has fallen." -- Fester Elevators smell different to midgets

"rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> writes: > Chris Pook hinted at last nights CART Town Meeting in LB that CART and Microsoft have done a deal > for a new Personal Computer CART racing game. The deal was concluded recently. > > the word "game" has me worried though....... > I wonder how long it will take before these few sentences meaning not very much will evolve into rumours about release dates, platform and features :) On motorsportforums speculations are already going through the roof. :) -- Olav Malmin remove .spam when replying

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> "Joel A. Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:3k3ga.3889$[email hidden]: > > > Dave, > > > > One would hope that the powers to be at Microsoft still remember > > all > > those negative reviews and comments about CPR. One would think that if > > they're ready to try it again, that they now know the right direction > > to take. > > > > Joel Willstein > > > Are any of the current MS game division employees still the same from > waaaay back when CPR was released? Memory only works if you were there to > remember it. :) What I remember one of the developers chatting quite > freely here about the pre-release of cpr. But when we started pointed out > big-time errors...he disappeared faster than.... > dave henrie

No, this group was a bunch of rude fucking pricks, and that's why he left. David G Fisher

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>Dave Henrie wrote: > >> Are any of the current MS game division employees still the same from >> waaaay back when CPR was released? Memory only works if you were there to >> remember it. :) What I remember one of the developers chatting quite >> freely here about the pre-release of cpr. But when we started pointed out >> big-time errors...he disappeared faster than.... >> dave henrie > > >Ahh yes, Richard Harvey. He won't be making this one I'm sure. >AvSim.com announced his death March 13th, after a long battle with >cancer. :-( Type his name into Avsim's search box & the announcement, >along with his picture, is the 4th one down. Titled "A hero has fallen."

:-( When the hell was CPR released? I don't even remember Richard Harvey... I remember Ed Martin talking about Nascar Heat, though. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"David G Fisher" wrote... > <snip> > No, this group was a bunch of rude fucking pricks, and > that's why he left. Just another wuss who couldn't handle the reality of a sim community. <g> "They" (the marketing types trying to plug their product) are all the same... underestimate what it takes to produce something being worthy of being labelled "a sim". Once the requirements become apparent (notably in the controller configuration department) they bid a hasty retreat. Cowards... the lot of them. Kudos to Bugbear for sticking to their title, no matter what. That said, I quite liked CPR. AI was more than a bit suspect, but, on non-FF wheels, the magic was there. I wouldn't mind MS having another crack at it. As long as they realise that a title that tries to be both a game and a sim never works. Jan. =---

EldredP wrote: > :-( > When the hell was CPR released? I don't even remember Richard Harvey... I > remember Ed Martin talking about Nascar Heat, though. > > Eldred 1997. Google for Richard Harvey in this newsgroup. Interesting reading. :-/ I was around at the time, it was something else. -- Fester Elevators smell different to midgets

Drive Pro and you will learn a lot. Complain about bumps and the Cleveland track all you want, it still drives well on pro with a proper setup. Teaches you throttle control, which can always help drop that GPL handicap. JB

>:-( > When the hell was CPR released? I don't even remember Richard > Harvey... I remember Ed Martin talking about Nascar Heat, though. > > Eldred Let's put it this way...it was back when 800x600 was considered HI REZ dave henrie

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>> > > I wonder how long it will take before these few sentences meaning not > very much will evolve into rumours about release dates, platform and > features :) On motorsportforums speculations are already going through > the roof. :) >

You mean it isn't ready yet??????????? dave henrie

I can see it now "ONLY FOR XBOX" "rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3YYfa.229878$S_4.136656@rwcrnsc53... > Chris Pook hinted at last nights CART Town Meeting in LB that CART andMicrosoft have done a deal > for a new Personal Computer CART racing game. The deal was concludedrecently. > > the word "game" has me worried though....... > >

I can see it now "ONLY FOR XBOX" Microsoft have done a deal

"Andreas Nystrom" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:5Jfga.2065$[email hidden]: > I can see it now "ONLY FOR XBOX" > PEE CEE was specifically mentioned from what I've read here and elsewhere. dave henrie

What do we need a Cart sim for? We are getting an IRL sim.

"djacobs8" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:Dmmga.220519$eG2.33881@sccrnsc03: > What do we need a Cart sim for? We are getting an IRL sim. > > > You just answered your own question. dave henrie

On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:32:03 GMT, "djacobs8" <[email hidden]> wrote: >What do we need a Cart sim for? We are getting an IRL sim. Turning right? "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

I said that 'tongue in cheek'. You guys are being so nice. Thought I might get a different reaction. I doubt that either will be very good but I would like to be pleasantly surprised. "djacobs8" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Dmmga.220519$eG2.33881@sccrnsc03... > What do we need a Cart sim for? We are getting an IRL sim. > >

>"straiton" <[email hidden]> wrote > Have u tried Microsoft's Cart Precision Racing.It's not even ajoke.Pitiful. Shhh DGF might see your message ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Joel A. Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote > One would hope that the powers to be at Microsoft still remember all > those negative reviews and comments about CPR. One would think that if > they're ready to try it again, that they now know the right direction to > take. One would hope that the powers that be at Microsoft sill remember all the bad PR there was about CPR and their people posting here in the NG ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > No, this group was a bunch of rude fucking pricks, and that's why he left. <waves> ;-| -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

> No, this group was a bunch of rude ***ing ***s, and that's why he left. <waves> ;-| -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- [link lost in import] -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"David G Fisher" < > No, this group was a bunch of rude fucking pricks, and that's why he > left. > > David G Fisher > David, we've been on both sides of the fence on several issues, I agree with you sometimes, and disagree others. Here is a time when I disagree. We are not rude. dave henrie :)

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>"David G Fisher" < >> No, this group was a bunch of rude fucking pricks, and that's why he >> left. > David, we've been on both sides of the fence on several issues, I agree >with you sometimes, and disagree others. Here is a time when I disagree. >We are not rude.

Shut the fuck up, both of you. Jason

On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:37:03 GMT, "rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Chris Pook hinted at last nights CART Town Meeting in LB that CART and Microsoft have done a deal >for a new Personal Computer CART racing game. The deal was concluded recently. > >the word "game" has me worried though....... Maybe if Microsoft would hurry up and buy Vivendi's gaming arm already... =) Jason

Because if they don't, we'll end up with a pathetic console port like their recent rally title (which has great graphics, but is otherwise so horrid I can't even remember the actual name of it). Marc "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:37:03 GMT, "rik zeppelin" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > Chris Pook hinted at last nights CART Town Meeting in LB that CART andMicrosoft have done a deal > >for a new Personal Computer CART racing game. The deal was concludedrecently.

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> > > >the word "game" has me worried though....... > > Maybe if Microsoft would hurry up and buy Vivendi's gaming arm > already... =) > > Jason

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> "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Joel A. Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > news:3k3ga.3889$[email hidden]: > > > > > Dave, > > > > > > One would hope that the powers to be at Microsoft still remember > > > all > > > those negative reviews and comments about CPR. One would think that if > > > they're ready to try it again, that they now know the right direction > > > to take. > > > > > > Joel Willstein > > > > > Are any of the current MS game division employees still the same from > > waaaay back when CPR was released? Memory only works if you were there to > > remember it. :) What I remember one of the developers chatting quite > > freely here about the pre-release of cpr. But when we started pointed out > > big-time errors...he disappeared faster than.... > > dave henrie > > No, this group was a bunch of rude fucking pricks, and that's why he left. > > David G Fisher

If memory serves me correct it was a post by Alison Hines that finally sent dave from the cart team packing. Hardly someone I would call a rude fucking prick. Todd.