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Looking to build another computer. So far I am looking at an AMD 4000+ san deigo (1mb l2). The only question I have is the motherboard. Whats the best 939 based m/b? I 'm looking at an Asus A8N32-sli deluxe and was wondering if it's still the way to go? It's been a while since I've upgraded so this will be a big jump from my athlon 1.6, and TI4600! btw I might be able to get a 7900 gtx with 512mb for about $200.00...

> Looking to build another computer. So far I am looking at an AMD 4000+ san > deigo (1mb l2). Is that a singlecore? I strongly suggest a dualcore cpu. rms

If I was building a new machine today, it would be an Intel C2D without question. ALL of my current machines are AMD Athlon64/X2 based right now. But at this time, Intel has handed AMD it's ass when it comes to performance. The Intel C2D really is that good. -Larry "DJRJR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:45c2afe3$0$8925$[email hidden]...

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> > Looking to build another computer. So far I am looking at an AMD 4000+ san > deigo (1mb l2). The only question I have is the motherboard. Whats the > best 939 based m/b? I 'm looking at an Asus A8N32-sli deluxe and was > wondering if it's still the way to go? It's been a while since I've > upgraded so this will be a big jump from my athlon 1.6, and TI4600! btw I > might be able to get a 7900 gtx with 512mb for about $200.00... >

I would have to agree. I have used AMD for years, but at this current time, Intel Core2 Duo is the way to go. I am about to pull the trigger, on ordering an E6600/ Asus mb, and 2gb ddr2 ram, just trying to decide on the exact mb I want. -- Don "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:l3Nwh.272$[email hidden]... > If I was building a new machine today, it would be an Intel C2D without > question. > > ALL of my current machines are AMD Athlon64/X2 based right now. But at > this time, Intel has handed AMD it's ass when it comes to performance. > > The Intel C2D really is that good. > > -Larry > > "DJRJR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:45c2afe3$0$8925$[email hidden]... >> >> Looking to build another computer. So far I am looking at an AMD 4000+ >> san deigo (1mb l2). The only question I have is the motherboard. Whats >> the best 939 based m/b? I 'm looking at an Asus A8N32-sli deluxe and was >> wondering if it's still the way to go? It's been a while since I've >> upgraded so this will be a big jump from my athlon 1.6, and TI4600! btw I >> might be able to get a 7900 gtx with 512mb for about $200.00... >> > >

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>I would have to agree. > > I have used AMD for years, but at this current time, Intel Core2 Duo is > the way to go. > > I am about to pull the trigger, on ordering an E6600/ Asus mb, and 2gb > ddr2 ram, just trying to decide on the exact mb I want. > > > > -- > Don >

The problem with this is I have to buy new ram and spend more on the processor. I can get the m/b for 139.00 the amd processor for 85.00 and keep my xms ddr400 ram. I'm looking for the best bang for the buck.

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:21:40 -0500, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>If I was building a new machine today, it would be an Intel C2D without >question. > >ALL of my current machines are AMD Athlon64/X2 based right now. But at this >time, Intel has handed AMD it's ass when it comes to performance. > >The Intel C2D really is that good. > >-Larry

Indeed. I have 2 boxes now, a 4600+ and a C2D 6600. I had an 8800GTX in the 4600 and it ran most of my games quite well. Put the 4600+ and board in a secondary box and built a C2D. Performance on some of my games literally doubled. GTL, GTR2 (particularly in changeable weather) went through the roof. rFactor, was getting fps into the 300's. If you can shell a few more bones, go a C2D right now. Cheers, Rod.

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> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:21:40 -0500, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>If I was building a new machine today, it would be an Intel C2D without >>question. >> >>ALL of my current machines are AMD Athlon64/X2 based right now. But at >>this >>time, Intel has handed AMD it's ass when it comes to performance. >> >>The Intel C2D really is that good. >> >>-Larry > > Indeed. I have 2 boxes now, a 4600+ and a C2D 6600. I had an 8800GTX > in the 4600 and it ran most of my games quite well. Put the 4600+ and > board in a secondary box and built a C2D. Performance on some of my > games literally doubled. GTL, GTR2 (particularly in changeable > weather) went through the roof. rFactor, was getting fps into the > 300's. > > If you can shell a few more bones, go a C2D right now. > > Cheers, > Rod.

Can you really tell a difference between 200 fps and 300? I know I can tell the difference between $450.00 or $800.00, and right now 100fps doesn't seem worth the extra threefitty...(just guesstimating) I could drop in another 7900gtx and go sli for that cash.. Does anyone know if the Asus a8n32-sli deluxe is the best 939 mb or is there a more stable way (still using 939) to go for the money?

On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 08:26:48 -0600, "John Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Can you really tell a difference between 200 fps and 300? I know I can tell >the difference between $450.00 or $800.00, and right now 100fps doesn't seem >worth the extra threefitty...(just guesstimating) I could drop in another >7900gtx and go sli for that cash.. Does anyone know if the Asus a8n32-sli >deluxe is the best 939 mb or is there a more stable way (still using 939) to >go for the money? No, I can't tell the difference. However, when you're playing something that is a lot more taxing on your system and the difference between the two systems is one runs at 20fps and the other 40, then the difference is obvious. That's what it did for FSX. Cheers, Rod.

> The problem with this is I have to buy new ram and spend more on the > processor. I can get the m/b for 139.00 the amd processor for 85.00 and > keep my xms ddr400 ram. I'm looking for the best bang for the buck. Another option is the Asrock Dual-Sata2 939 mobo. It offers AGP+Pci-E and DDR on the same mobo. It is no longer offered for sale, but is available on ebay etc., and I'm looking to buy one myself as an interim solution. Its Vista compatibility isn't entirely clear but will probably iron itself out once the os becomes a bit more mature. Reviews of it are very positive. rms

On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:09:58 GMT, rms wrote:

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> Another option is the Asrock Dual-Sata2 939 mobo. It offers AGP+Pci-E > and DDR on the same mobo. It is no longer offered for sale, but is > available on ebay etc., and I'm looking to buy one myself as an interim > solution. Its Vista compatibility isn't entirely clear but will probably > iron itself out once the os becomes a bit more mature. Reviews of it are > very positive. > > rms

I ran Vista beta on that mb with no problems. I did have the onboard sound disabled though. I am getting a copy of Vista this week and it will be on the same mb.

Ok, I'm an AMD man. Every machine in my house (except Laptops) are Athlon 64's or X2's. With that said, the Intel Core 2 Duo (C2D in geekspeak) is kicking AMD's ass right now. It is a REALLY good processor. If _I_ were building a new machine right now, it would be a C2D system, no question. Now, about the A8N32SLI-Deluxe. I have this board. It is a nice board. Good stability. It is getting a bit long in the tooth though as it's been out for around a year. It is NOT perfect. The biggest problem is the slot spacing. This is a x16 board and has two x16 PCI slots for SLI configuration. Due to the way the slots are positioned, even if you only use ONE video card, there's physically no way to get more than ONE PCI card installed, even though there are slots for more. It's just too cramped. Since I have a Creative X-Fi Elite Pro, that left me with using the on-board NIC. That's not necessarily bad, but I prefer to use Intel Gigabit cards. There's just no way to fit it into the other PCI slot the way this board is set up. Keep that in mind... The highest-end Intel C2D compatible board on the market right now is the ASUS Striker. Problem is, the LIST price is $330 and resellers are gouging and charging OVER retail. Even Newegg is screwing people, charging an amazing $419 for this board! I suspect this just makes things worse for you. Sorry :) -Larry "DJRJR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:45c2afe3$0$8925$[email hidden]...

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> > Looking to build another computer. So far I am looking at an AMD 4000+ san > deigo (1mb l2). The only question I have is the motherboard. Whats the > best 939 based m/b? I 'm looking at an Asus A8N32-sli deluxe and was > wondering if it's still the way to go? It's been a while since I've > upgraded so this will be a big jump from my athlon 1.6, and TI4600! btw I > might be able to get a 7900 gtx with 512mb for about $200.00... >

Sorry for the repeat post guys. At least it's a longer one :) I installed Vista Ultimate last weekend, and I'm starting from scratch in the newsreader here :) -Larry "DJRJR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:45c2afe3$0$8925$[email hidden]...

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> > Looking to build another computer. So far I am looking at an AMD 4000+ san > deigo (1mb l2). The only question I have is the motherboard. Whats the > best 939 based m/b? I 'm looking at an Asus A8N32-sli deluxe and was > wondering if it's still the way to go? It's been a while since I've > upgraded so this will be a big jump from my athlon 1.6, and TI4600! btw I > might be able to get a 7900 gtx with 512mb for about $200.00... >

Larry, didnt you mention lately you have the new G2 wheel/pedals, and now you have vista, any problems? if not, oopsey. Larry enlightened us with:

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> Sorry for the repeat post guys. At least it's a longer one :) > > I installed Vista Ultimate last weekend, and I'm starting from > scratch in the newsreader here :) > > -Larry > > "DJRJR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:45c2afe3$0$8925$[email hidden]... >> >> Looking to build another computer. So far I am looking at an AMD >> 4000+ san deigo (1mb l2). The only question I have is the >> motherboard. Whats the best 939 based m/b? I 'm looking at an Asus >> A8N32-sli deluxe and was wondering if it's still the way to go? It's >> been a while since I've upgraded so this will be a big jump from my >> athlon 1.6, and TI4600! btw I might be able to get a 7900 gtx with >> 512mb for about $200.00...

I do, and the situatin is a bit confusing. The product page for the G25 says it is Vista compatible, but when you go to the download page for the driver, it only goes up to Windows XP. Same for the G15 Keyboard. Where's the wingmanteam when you need them. It's a damned shame they shut that goup down :( -Larry "Plowboy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7Cpyh.4827$[email hidden]...

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> Larry, > > didnt you mention lately you have the new G2 wheel/pedals, and now you > have vista, any problems? > if not, oopsey. > > Larry enlightened us with: >> Sorry for the repeat post guys. At least it's a longer one :) >> >> I installed Vista Ultimate last weekend, and I'm starting from >> scratch in the newsreader here :) >> >> -Larry >> >> "DJRJR" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:45c2afe3$0$8925$[email hidden]... >>> >>> Looking to build another computer. So far I am looking at an AMD >>> 4000+ san deigo (1mb l2). The only question I have is the >>> motherboard. Whats the best 939 based m/b? I 'm looking at an Asus >>> A8N32-sli deluxe and was wondering if it's still the way to go? It's >>> been a while since I've upgraded so this will be a big jump from my >>> athlon 1.6, and TI4600! btw I might be able to get a 7900 gtx with >>> 512mb for about $200.00... > >

LOL! no chit.

On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:17:05 -0500, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I do, and the situatin is a bit confusing. > >The product page for the G25 says it is Vista compatible, but when you go to >the download page for the driver, it only goes up to Windows XP. > >Same for the G15 Keyboard. > >Where's the wingmanteam when you need them. It's a damned shame they shut >that goup down :(

I'm contemplating just trying the XP driver in Vista but at the moment I don't see the benefit of running it in Vista. I still have XP which I'll likely re-install and dedicate to just gaming sometime in the near future. Cheers, Rod.