Its been my opinion that online racing is not very realistic. This is based
on a lot of the extra rules that leagues put in, and some game features like
auto chat. A example of this is how a lot leagues say if your being lapped
go high. Now during Sunday's NASCAR race DW basically said what I have
always thought. That if you are being lapped to just hold your line and its
up to the faster cars to get around you.
However I'm thinking that after this Sunday's race that someone in the
NASCAR brass must be racing online. After that call with Matt K. and Jeff G.
I'm betting someone got their league rules mixed up the real ones. If you
have not seen the race and will catch a tape delay you may want to stop
reading now. For those of you did watch WET was with this no passing the
leader crap? As far as I know the rule is race back to the line. Matt
slowed up to let his Roush teammates get their laps back, but Jeff wasn't
going for it. I am a Roush Racing fan so I'm glad my guys got their laps
back, but I honestly think that was a BS call.
It so reminded me of one of my most frustrating online races. Flashpoint did
have a rule of no racing back to the line on a yellow flag. I forget what
track it was at, but it seemed there was a yellow about ever 5 laps. I was
racing a guy for a top five spot, but every time I'd get along side him and
have the line going into the next corner when a darn yellow would come out
and by league rules I would have to fall back in line behind him. That
happened for four or five times in a row.
So I'm curious what you guys think a) of the call made by NASCAR and b)
racing back to the flag online.
My take on it
a) It was a silly call made by NASCAR. I will give them credit for giving
the other cars their lap back. If the would have just put Jeff in front of
Matt without giving the others their laps back would have just been silly.
Of course that would be nothing new for NASCAR lol
b) While I understand not racing back to the line I do feel that if you made
a pass that lap it should stand, and if your attempting a clean pass when
the yellow flies you should be able to finish it. How does RASCAR handle it?
MadDAWG
The problem lies with a driver giving anyone a lap back. Just don't get it. I
don't care if he's your Brother. No lap back. I worked to put you down, now
you can stay there.
Mike
[email hidden] (Race1530) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
> The problem lies with a driver giving anyone a lap back. Just don't get it. I
> don't care if he's your Brother. No lap back. I worked to put you down, now
> you can stay there.
>
> Mike
Well, sometimes folks go a lap down from just plain bad luck. If
someone wants to give a lap back, then fine. If there is a
gentlemen's agreement to not race back to the line, so be it, and if
someone wants to ignore that agreement, so be it. What goes around
comes around.
As far as I know, the NASCAR rule is to race back. I thought the call
was total BS, but then one of the announcers said that this has been
superceded lately by instructions given at the drivers meetings. If
that's true, they need to go ahead and change the rule.
Personally, I wish NASCAR would quit sticking its nose in every corner
and just let them race.
2c,
Gerald
"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
a) They should have just let them race. There was no need for them to
get involved at all. If NASCAR would just follow their own rulebook,
there would be no controversy. Let's see if anyone gives Jeffy a lap
back after this.
b) Online, I think you should do whatever you think the safest course
of action is. Even if it means risking a BF. At least now you have a
chance for it to be cleared by sympathetic race officials. Yellow
means there is already a problem on at least one part of the track.
With the generally deficient spotter AI, I think it is probably safest
just to back off a slight bit, stop actively racing, and concentrate
on picking up the pacecar safely. Sometimes you need to floor it to
get by trouble, and sometimes you might decide that this will be your
best and only shot of getting by a particularly tough opponent,
particularly late in the race. But in general, I am not a fan of
racing back (online), as it adds risk to an already risky situation.
Not everyone agrees, which is what makes life interesting.
cheers,
Gerald
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> So I'm curious what you guys think a) of the call made by NASCAR and b) > racing back to the flag online. > > My take on it > > a) It was a silly call made by NASCAR. I will give them credit for giving > the other cars their lap back. If the would have just put Jeff in front of > Matt without giving the others their laps back would have just been silly. > Of course that would be nothing new for NASCAR lol > > b) While I understand not racing back to the line I do feel that if you made > a pass that lap it should stand, and if your attempting a clean pass when > the yellow flies you should be able to finish it. How does RASCAR handle it? > > MadDAWGNASCAR needs to stay out of the Budwieser tent until the race is over, that
call was pathetic, it instantly reminded me of the WWF. I never saw the rest
of the race , I turned it off at that point.
I would agree that lappers should just hold line, I used to move high and
still seemed to get creamed by a leader trying to perform ill timed slide
jobs thinking that your supposed to lift as well. I hold my line, I drive
where I am, the leaders must realize that you do have to turn right
sometimes even when turning left all day.
"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Its been my opinion that online racing is not very realistic. This isbased
> on a lot of the extra rules that leagues put in, and some game featureslike
> auto chat. A example of this is how a lot leagues say if your beinglapped
> go high. Now during Sunday's NASCAR race DW basically said what I have
> always thought. That if you are being lapped to just hold your line andits
> up to the faster cars to get around you.
>
> However I'm thinking that after this Sunday's race that someone in the
> NASCAR brass must be racing online. After that call with Matt K. and JeffG.
did
> have a rule of no racing back to the line on a yellow flag. I forget what
> track it was at, but it seemed there was a yellow about ever 5 laps. I was
> racing a guy for a top five spot, but every time I'd get along side himand
made
> a pass that lap it should stand, and if your attempting a clean pass when
> the yellow flies you should be able to finish it. How does RASCAR handleit?
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> I'm betting someone got their league rules mixed up the real ones. If you > have not seen the race and will catch a tape delay you may want to stop > reading now. For those of you did watch WET was with this no passing the > leader crap? As far as I know the rule is race back to the line. Matt > slowed up to let his Roush teammates get their laps back, but Jeff wasn't > going for it. I am a Roush Racing fan so I'm glad my guys got their laps > back, but I honestly think that was a BS call. > > It so reminded me of one of my most frustrating online races. FlashpointQuoted text (15 lines)
> have the line going into the next corner when a darn yellow would come out > and by league rules I would have to fall back in line behind him. That > happened for four or five times in a row. > > So I'm curious what you guys think a) of the call made by NASCAR and b) > racing back to the flag online. > > My take on it > > a) It was a silly call made by NASCAR. I will give them credit for giving > the other cars their lap back. If the would have just put Jeff in front of > Matt without giving the others their laps back would have just been silly. > Of course that would be nothing new for NASCAR lol > > b) While I understand not racing back to the line I do feel that if youQuoted text (12 lines)
> > MadDAWG > > > > > > > > > >In other "lesser" NASCAR series the rule has been defended many times....
On the Modified tour George "The Duke of" Kent won, not one, but two tour
races by racing back to the line, coming down to take the caution. Now this
was on short tracks, one of them a 1/4 mile if I remember correctly.... But
of course that is far from the spotlight... so maybe the rule do change...
I think NASCAR thought they would get a better show if those guys got their
laps back, I know that would have happend last week if Spencer had not lost
a lap due to an ill placed caution...
And NASCAR is all about the show now.
"cheeto" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<5l3ia.8010$%[email hidden]>...
> And NASCAR is all about the show now.
Yeah... what HE said. I guess they have forgotten that racing IS the
show. Hey, do I see debris in turn 3?
I wish we could go back to the days when Ford v. Chevy actually meant
something. When the Winston Million was actually an unheard-of amount
of money. When aero meant you had a goofy-looking rear window glass,
but one that came on an actual production model! And no goddamn
restrictor plates! And you could drive an Oldsmobile!
I mean, where in the heck is NASCAR Legends 2, ca. 1985? Where!??
Sigh. I will never rest. ;)
Gerald
> I mean, where in the heck is NASCAR Legends 2, ca. 1985? Where!??
>
> Sigh. I will never rest. ;)
>
> Gerald
Now that would be a must have with todays graphic and physic engines.
MadDAWG
