OT : CART at Brands Indy - Sub 30 Sec Laps?

The thought occurred to me as I was trying to go sub 44 sec in my 1998 Nissan, "If I can go 44 sec in a Two-Litre, four door family car (I recognize that it isn't in real life but moving on...) what are the Champ cars going to turn on the Indy circuit sub 30's? How many laps are they going to run 200?" I recognize from Pook's last utterance they are still trying to use the full GP circuit but I don't understand why that isn't the plan from day one. Originally they said they couldn't because they were hooked up with the BTCC but surely it doesn't take that long to change over the course. Or why not let the tourers run on the whole course. I've never understood why the whole course is so rarely used any way. I just worry that this is an other half thought out stab at the European market that may poison the waters for years to come. Just my two cents. (adjusted for Canadian exchange rate actual value may vary)

The wizards at Brands are said to be re-configuring the chicane @ Dingle Dell. As it is, the full course is deemed too dangerous for either F1 or Champ Cars. The whole shmear may be in a cocked hat (to miscegenate a mataphor) because Octagon Sports (which controls both Goodwood and Brands, and is part of the vast, crumbling Interpublic advertising empire, thanks to the motorsports passion of one of its former suits, Les Delano) is in almost as much financial trouble as CART. Octagon wants to sell their interest in Brands and Goodwood, but can find no buyers because Bernie wrote a contract that makes them liable for the British GP thru 2008 whether they stage it or not! "Rudeboy" <Rudeboy@hotmail*NoSpam*.ca> wrote in message news:nQ0ia.350387$[email hidden]...

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> The thought occurred to me as I was trying to go sub 44 sec in my 1998 > Nissan, "If I can go 44 sec in a Two-Litre, four door family car (I > recognize that it isn't in real life but moving on...) what are the Champ > cars going to turn on the Indy circuit sub 30's? How many laps are they > going to run 200?" > > I recognize from Pook's last utterance they are still trying to use the

full > GP circuit but I don't understand why that isn't the plan from day one. > Originally they said they couldn't because they were hooked up with theBTCC > but surely it doesn't take that long to change over the course. Or whynot > let the tourers run on the whole course. I've never understood why the > whole course is so rarely used any way. I just worry that this is another > half thought out stab at the European market that may poison the watersfor > years to come. > > Just my two cents. > (adjusted for Canadian exchange rate actual value may vary) > >

"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote > Octagon Sports (which controls both Goodwood and Brands, and is part ofthe > vast, crumbling Interpublic advertising empire, I don't think Octagon has anything to do with Goodwood, I thought it was privately owned by Earl March >thanks to the motorsports > passion of one of its former suits, Les Delano) is in almost as much > financial trouble as CART. Octagon wants to sell their interest in Brands > and Goodwood, but can find no buyers because Bernie wrote a contract that > makes them liable for the British GP thru 2008 whether they stage it ornot! > Maybe you're thinking of Silverstone :) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers>

Yes, yes - of course! Silverstone IS where the Brit GP is held. So sorry.... "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QZ2ia.3397$[email hidden]...

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> > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > Octagon Sports (which controls both Goodwood and Brands, and is part of > the > > vast, crumbling Interpublic advertising empire, > > I don't think Octagon has anything to do with Goodwood, I thought it was > privately owned by Earl March > > >thanks to the motorsports > > passion of one of its former suits, Les Delano) is in almost as much > > financial trouble as CART. Octagon wants to sell their interest in

Brands > > and Goodwood, but can find no buyers because Bernie wrote a contractthat

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> > makes them liable for the British GP thru 2008 whether they stage it or > not! > > > > Maybe you're thinking of Silverstone :) > -- > > Ian P > <email invalid due to spammers> > > > >

From what I understand Dingel Dell is being rebuild (and renamed to honour the late Barry Sheen) as per requests by the FIM - the Superbike WC's governing body.. Brands currently host a round of the SBK WC and if it's too keep it - they have to make that section of the track, safer. ' "Steve Smith" said: > The wizards at Brands are said to be re-configuring the chicane @ Dingle > Dell. As it is, the full course is deemed too dangerous for either F1 or > Champ Cars. -- ed_ http://rascar.racesimcentral.com --------------------------------------- $10 say Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC

"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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> From what I understand Dingel Dell is being rebuild (and renamed to > honour the late Barry Sheen) as per requests by the FIM - the > Superbike WC's governing body.. Brands currently host a round of the > SBK WC and if it's too keep it - they have to make that section of the > track, safer. ' > "Steve Smith" said: > >> The wizards at Brands are said to be re-configuring the chicane @ >> Dingle Dell. As it is, the full course is deemed too dangerous for >> either F1 or Champ Cars. > > > -- > ed_ > http://rascar.racesimcentral.com > --------------------------------------- > $10 say Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC >

Is that bet still on Ed? :0 It's a shame they are mucking with Dingle Dell, that part of Brands is perfect for Touring cars. It should be made law that a low angle TV camera always be placed looking back at the exit of the Dell. On the short course...Tracey should be lapping Rodolfo Lavin by the end of the first lap. :) dave henrie

I *think* the Champ Cars are going to be running the eponymous "Indy" (short) course, at least this year, so no Dingle Dell...and the lap times will be comparable to oval-track times (somebody calculated in the 30-sec. bracket). "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > > From what I understand Dingel Dell is being rebuild (and renamed to > > honour the late Barry Sheen) as per requests by the FIM - the > > Superbike WC's governing body.. Brands currently host a round of the > > SBK WC and if it's too keep it - they have to make that section of the > > track, safer. ' > > "Steve Smith" said: > > > >> The wizards at Brands are said to be re-configuring the chicane @ > >> Dingle Dell. As it is, the full course is deemed too dangerous for > >> either F1 or Champ Cars. > > > > > > -- > > ed_ > > http://rascar.racesimcentral.com > > --------------------------------------- > > $10 say Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC > > > Is that bet still on Ed? :0 > > It's a shame they are mucking with Dingle Dell, that part of Brands is > perfect for Touring cars. It should be made law that a low angle TV

camera > always be placed looking back at the exit of the Dell. > On the short course...Tracey should be lapping Rodolfo Lavin by the end > of the first lap. :) > > > dave henrie

"Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:o0Aia.1141$[email hidden]... > I *think* the Champ Cars are going to be running the eponymous "Indy" > (short) course, at least this year, so no Dingle Dell...and the lap times > will be comparable to oval-track times (somebody calculated in the 30-sec. > bracket). Yup, to bring the legend back to the "indy circuit". Damn I'd love to watch Tracy through Paddock Hill bend! /Matt

Wanna go Matt? OH!! Happy Birthday btw! -- ed_ "Matt Knutsen" said: > Yup, to bring the legend back to the "indy circuit". Damn I'd love to watch > Tracy through Paddock Hill bend!

> > Tracy through Paddock Hill bend! > >I'll be there :))